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Old January 22nd 09, 02:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Sage - John Leonard
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Default Registry Cleaner - does one exists?

Is there a safe registry cleaner out there, that will work with Vista and
XP?

What about RegDefense?

thx

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Old January 22nd 09, 03:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
The Real Truth MVP
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Default Registry Cleaner - does one exists?

Download CCleaner from here http://www.ccleaner.com



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"Sage - John Leonard" sagegrp@nowhere wrote in message
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Is there a safe registry cleaner out there, that will work with Vista and
XP?

What about RegDefense?

thx


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Old January 22nd 09, 03:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
John John (MVP)
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Default Registry Cleaner - does one exists?

No, these tools cause more harm than good. If you want to keep your
Windows installation in good working order don't clean your registry
with these useless programs!

John

Sage - John Leonard wrote:

Is there a safe registry cleaner out there, that will work with Vista
and XP?

What about RegDefense?

thx


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Old January 22nd 09, 03:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
thecreator[_3_]
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Default Registry Cleaner - does one exists?

Hi John,

I disagree for while they did cause more harm than good at first, now
these Registry Cleaners have gotten better.

A good one is TuneUp Utilities 2009 which can be downloaded from he
http://www.tune-up.com/products/tuneup-utilities/

Have you used / tried the one I recommended yet?


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"John John (MVP)" wrote in message
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No, these tools cause more harm than good. If you want to keep your
Windows installation in good working order don't clean your registry with
these useless programs!

John

Sage - John Leonard wrote:

Is there a safe registry cleaner out there, that will work with Vista and
XP?

What about RegDefense?

thx




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Old January 22nd 09, 04:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Pauli Taglia[_2_]
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Default Registry Cleaner - does one exists?

"thecreator" wrote:

I disagree for while they did cause more harm than good at first, now
these Registry Cleaners have gotten better.


Better at what? They don't screw up the system as often as they might
have in the past?

You surely can't show that they do what they claim: increase
performance.
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Old January 22nd 09, 05:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
John John (MVP)
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Default Registry Cleaner - does one exists?

thecreator wrote:

Hi John,

I disagree for while they did cause more harm than good at first, now
these Registry Cleaners have gotten better.

A good one is TuneUp Utilities 2009 which can be downloaded from he
http://www.tune-up.com/products/tuneup-utilities/

Have you used / tried the one I recommended yet?


The premise for using these cleaners is that the registry needs regular
cleaning, that is a false premise. These cleaners do nothing to improve
computer performance and they do introduce a risk of damage to the
Windows installation, as far as I am concerned all of these cleaners are
next to utterly useless. Why bother when there a possible risk to
contend with and nothing to be gained in return?

John

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Old January 22nd 09, 06:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Ken Blake, MVP
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Default Registry Cleaner - does one exists?

On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:53:44 -0500, "Sage - John Leonard"
sagegrp@nowhere wrote:

Is there a safe registry cleaner out there, that will work with Vista and
XP?



Although some are safer than others, none is completely safe and none
is needed. You shouldn't run any of them.

Here's my standard message on this subject:

Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the
registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and
don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and
what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of,
having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you.

The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
it may have.

Read http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html


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Old January 22nd 09, 06:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Leonard Grey[_3_]
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Default Registry Cleaner - does one exists?

I have yet to see a before-and-after benchmark test proving that
registry cleaners do any good at all. But we have plenty of evidence of
how much damage they can cause.

Registry cleaners -- like fad diets and memory improvement pills -- are
marketed to people who are swayed by half-truths and unsubstantiated
hype. The more you learn about Windows, the more you realize that
so-called registry cleaners -- like those diets and those pills -- are
just so much junk.

Personally, I don't care whether someone uses a registry cleaner. It's
their computer, they are allowed to do whatever they want with it,
right? However, if they experience a problem with their computer, and a
registry cleaner is involved, they may be in for plenty of frustration
because no one knows what the software did to the computer and what
effect it may or may not have had.
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Errare humanum est

John John (MVP) wrote:
thecreator wrote:

Hi John,

I disagree for while they did cause more harm than good at first,
now these Registry Cleaners have gotten better.

A good one is TuneUp Utilities 2009 which can be downloaded from
he
http://www.tune-up.com/products/tuneup-utilities/

Have you used / tried the one I recommended yet?


The premise for using these cleaners is that the registry needs regular
cleaning, that is a false premise. These cleaners do nothing to improve
computer performance and they do introduce a risk of damage to the
Windows installation, as far as I am concerned all of these cleaners are
next to utterly useless. Why bother when there a possible risk to
contend with and nothing to be gained in return?

John

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Old January 22nd 09, 08:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
CBoom
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Default Registry Cleaner - does one exists?

I advise against using a registry cleaner unless you know exactly what you
are doing

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For tips, tricks and tutorials visit my blog below:
http://computerboom.blogspot.com

"Sage - John Leonard" sagegrp@nowhere wrote in message
...
Is there a safe registry cleaner out there, that will work with Vista and
XP?

What about RegDefense?

thx


  #10  
Old January 22nd 09, 08:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
CBoom
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Default Registry Cleaner - does one exists?

even if they clear thousands and thousands of mistakes the difference in
registry size is only a few KB

registry cleaners should be avoided..

I do use one that's part of ccleaner... but I do It very seldom and make a
restore point before and check what changes it will do..

but I understand the registry...

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http://computerboom.blogspot.com

"Leonard Grey" wrote in message
...
I have yet to see a before-and-after benchmark test proving that registry
cleaners do any good at all. But we have plenty of evidence of how much
damage they can cause.

Registry cleaners -- like fad diets and memory improvement pills -- are
marketed to people who are swayed by half-truths and unsubstantiated hype.
The more you learn about Windows, the more you realize that so-called
registry cleaners -- like those diets and those pills -- are just so much
junk.

Personally, I don't care whether someone uses a registry cleaner. It's
their computer, they are allowed to do whatever they want with it, right?
However, if they experience a problem with their computer, and a registry
cleaner is involved, they may be in for plenty of frustration because no
one knows what the software did to the computer and what effect it may or
may not have had.
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

John John (MVP) wrote:
thecreator wrote:

Hi John,

I disagree for while they did cause more harm than good at first,
now these Registry Cleaners have gotten better.

A good one is TuneUp Utilities 2009 which can be downloaded from
he
http://www.tune-up.com/products/tuneup-utilities/

Have you used / tried the one I recommended yet?


The premise for using these cleaners is that the registry needs regular
cleaning, that is a false premise. These cleaners do nothing to improve
computer performance and they do introduce a risk of damage to the
Windows installation, as far as I am concerned all of these cleaners are
next to utterly useless. Why bother when there a possible risk to
contend with and nothing to be gained in return?

John

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Old January 22nd 09, 09:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Roy Smith[_3_]
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Default Registry Cleaner - does one exists?


"John John (MVP)" wrote in message
...
No, these tools cause more harm than good. If you want to keep your
Windows installation in good working order don't clean your registry with
these useless programs!

John

Sage - John Leonard wrote:

Is there a safe registry cleaner out there, that will work with Vista and
XP?

What about RegDefense?


If a registry cleaner is not safe, then why does Windows Live Onecare have
one?

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/a...leaner_why.htm



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Old January 22nd 09, 09:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Tom [Pepper] Willett[_2_]
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Default Registry Cleaner - does one exists?

Just because it has one, why is it safe? BTW, Windows Live Onecare is being
discontinued.

"Roy Smith" wrote in message
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:
: "John John (MVP)" wrote in message
: ...
: No, these tools cause more harm than good. If you want to keep your
: Windows installation in good working order don't clean your registry
with
: these useless programs!
:
: John
:
: Sage - John Leonard wrote:
:
: Is there a safe registry cleaner out there, that will work with Vista
and
: XP?
:
: What about RegDefense?
:
: If a registry cleaner is not safe, then why does Windows Live Onecare have
: one?
:
: http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/a...leaner_why.htm
:
:
:


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Old January 22nd 09, 09:23 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Leonard Grey[_3_]
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Default Registry Cleaner - does one exists?

Marketing.
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Errare humanum est

Roy Smith wrote:

"John John (MVP)" wrote in message
...
No, these tools cause more harm than good. If you want to keep your
Windows installation in good working order don't clean your registry
with these useless programs!

John

Sage - John Leonard wrote:

Is there a safe registry cleaner out there, that will work with Vista
and XP?

What about RegDefense?


If a registry cleaner is not safe, then why does Windows Live Onecare
have one?

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/a...leaner_why.htm



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Old January 22nd 09, 09:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Unknown
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Default Registry Cleaner - does one exists?

Even if YOU know exactly what you're doing, you don't know what the registry
cleaner is doing.
Avoid them.
"CBoom" wrote in message
...
I advise against using a registry cleaner unless you know exactly what you
are doing

--
For tips, tricks and tutorials visit my blog below:
http://computerboom.blogspot.com

"Sage - John Leonard" sagegrp@nowhere wrote in message
...
Is there a safe registry cleaner out there, that will work with Vista and
XP?

What about RegDefense?

thx




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Old January 22nd 09, 10:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
John John (MVP)
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Default Registry Cleaner - does one exists?

Roy Smith wrote:


"John John (MVP)" wrote in message
...

No, these tools cause more harm than good. If you want to keep your
Windows installation in good working order don't clean your registry
with these useless programs!

John

Sage - John Leonard wrote:

Is there a safe registry cleaner out there, that will work with Vista
and XP?

What about RegDefense?



If a registry cleaner is not safe, then why does Windows Live Onecare
have one?

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/a...leaner_why.htm


Perhaps you should ask why Onecare steadfastly refused to include a
registry cleaner in its "paid for" version, maybe Onecare and the
support team didn't want to deal with problems caused by useless
registry cleaners. You should ask why any application that deals with
user security and malicious pests surreptitiously enables ActiveX
without asking or even informing unwary users that it has done so. And
finally, you should ask yourself why Onecare is being discontinued.

John
 




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