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Old May 30th 14, 05:32 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Peter Jason
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Default Old scanner won't work.

A 2004 Canon "Canoscan 9900F."
It has no driver for Win7 & Win8.
I have my old XPpro computer gathering dust at
home, so I want to put the system HDD from this
old machine into this computer and boot up the XP
when I want to scan. Seems a pity to throw away
a good scanner.
I still cannot access the "Boot Menu" of my
motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7
http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList...d7_v.2.0_e.pdf
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Old May 30th 14, 05:51 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default Old scanner won't work.

Peter Jason wrote:

A 2004 Canon "Canoscan 9900F."
It has no driver for Win7 & Win8.
I have my old XPpro computer gathering dust at
home, so I want to put the system HDD from this
old machine into this computer and boot up the XP
when I want to scan. Seems a pity to throw away
a good scanner.
I still cannot access the "Boot Menu" of my
motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7
http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList...x58a-ud7_v.2.0
_e.pdf


It doesn't quite work that way. Transplanting the hard drive will require
Windows to install new drivers for pretty much every piece of hardware inside
the case.

Why not just set the XP machine up in an out-of-the-way corner and boot
*that* when you want to scan?

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  #3  
Old May 30th 14, 06:33 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Peter Jason wrote, On 5/29/2014 10:32 PM:
A 2004 Canon "Canoscan 9900F."
It has no driver for Win7 & Win8.
I have my old XPpro computer gathering dust at
home, so I want to put the system HDD from this
old machine into this computer and boot up the XP
when I want to scan. Seems a pity to throw away
a good scanner.
I still cannot access the "Boot Menu" of my
motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7
http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList...d7_v.2.0_e.pdf

The message given at the Canon web site for your printer and both 32 and
64 bit versions of Win 7 is "There is no driver for the OS Version you
selected. The driver may be included in your OS or you may not need a
driver." So my questions are 1) does the OS supply a driver and 2) are
you sure you need one?

Jeff Barnett
  #4  
Old May 30th 14, 07:10 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Peter Jason
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Default Old scanner won't work.

On Thu, 29 May 2014 23:33:38 -0600, Jeff Barnett
wrote:

Peter Jason wrote, On 5/29/2014 10:32 PM:
A 2004 Canon "Canoscan 9900F."
It has no driver for Win7 & Win8.
I have my old XPpro computer gathering dust at
home, so I want to put the system HDD from this
old machine into this computer and boot up the XP
when I want to scan. Seems a pity to throw away
a good scanner.
I still cannot access the "Boot Menu" of my
motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7
http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList...d7_v.2.0_e.pdf

The message given at the Canon web site for your printer and both 32 and
64 bit versions of Win 7 is "There is no driver for the OS Version you
selected. The driver may be included in your OS or you may not need a
driver." So my questions are 1) does the OS supply a driver and 2) are
you sure you need one?

Jeff Barnett


I plugged it into the computer Firewire 1394
socket and it was recognized in "devices &
printers" as a "device driver not installed". When
Wndows looked up the Internet the driver "could
not be found".

Using Windows Fax & Scan, the scanner was not
detected, nor with PShop 6 nor Acrobat 10.

Is there some other way?
  #5  
Old May 30th 14, 07:11 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Peter Jason
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Default Old scanner won't work.

On Fri, 30 May 2014 04:51:28 +0000 (UTC),
"Auric__" wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:

A 2004 Canon "Canoscan 9900F."
It has no driver for Win7 & Win8.
I have my old XPpro computer gathering dust at
home, so I want to put the system HDD from this
old machine into this computer and boot up the XP
when I want to scan. Seems a pity to throw away
a good scanner.
I still cannot access the "Boot Menu" of my
motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7
http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList...x58a-ud7_v.2.0
_e.pdf


It doesn't quite work that way. Transplanting the hard drive will require
Windows to install new drivers for pretty much every piece of hardware inside
the case.

Why not just set the XP machine up in an out-of-the-way corner and boot
*that* when you want to scan?


Sounds like a good idea and I'll get the XP
machine connected to this one via a network.
I'll need a new monitor though.
  #6  
Old May 30th 14, 08:45 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul
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Default Old scanner won't work.

Peter Jason wrote:
On Thu, 29 May 2014 23:33:38 -0600, Jeff Barnett
wrote:

Peter Jason wrote, On 5/29/2014 10:32 PM:
A 2004 Canon "Canoscan 9900F."
It has no driver for Win7 & Win8.
I have my old XPpro computer gathering dust at
home, so I want to put the system HDD from this
old machine into this computer and boot up the XP
when I want to scan. Seems a pity to throw away
a good scanner.
I still cannot access the "Boot Menu" of my
motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7
http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList...d7_v.2.0_e.pdf

The message given at the Canon web site for your printer and both 32 and
64 bit versions of Win 7 is "There is no driver for the OS Version you
selected. The driver may be included in your OS or you may not need a
driver." So my questions are 1) does the OS supply a driver and 2) are
you sure you need one?

Jeff Barnett


I plugged it into the computer Firewire 1394
socket and it was recognized in "devices &
printers" as a "device driver not installed". When
Wndows looked up the Internet the driver "could
not be found".

Using Windows Fax & Scan, the scanner was not
detected, nor with PShop 6 nor Acrobat 10.

Is there some other way?


Retest with the USB cable instead. It has both
Firewire and USB on the hardware interface.

Based on multiple negative leads so far, I would
say "continue to use your WinXP machine to do scans".
Even USB passthru doesn't work well with that beast.
There is no support for users of 64 bit OSes, for
one thing. And the so-called "Vista" driver, turned
out to be a driver from the year 2004.

You can just move the LCD monitor to the WinXP
machine, during your scanning session, then move
it back later. While you could use a KVM to share
one monitor with two computers, that's an unnecessary
expense for just a few scans. But if you plan to scan
on a daily basis, a KVM will help avoid wearing out
the connector.

I share my main LCD monitor between a PC and a Mac. I run the
Mac maybe once a year (it has the scanner connect to the Mac
SCSI bus), and I just move the monitor over to the Mac
while using it. I didn't bother with a KVM. The Mac is
old enough now, the CMOS battery died on it.

Paul
  #7  
Old May 30th 14, 12:51 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken Springer[_2_]
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Default Old scanner won't work.

On 5/29/14 10:32 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
A 2004 Canon "Canoscan 9900F."
It has no driver for Win7 & Win8.
I have my old XPpro computer gathering dust at
home, so I want to put the system HDD from this
old machine into this computer and boot up the XP
when I want to scan. Seems a pity to throw away
a good scanner.
I still cannot access the "Boot Menu" of my
motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7
http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList...d7_v.2.0_e.pdf


See if this will work:

http://www.hamrick.com/


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Old May 30th 14, 12:56 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Keith Nuttle
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Default Old scanner won't work.

On 5/30/2014 3:45 AM, Paul wrote:
Peter Jason wrote:
On Thu, 29 May 2014 23:33:38 -0600, Jeff Barnett
wrote:

Peter Jason wrote, On 5/29/2014 10:32 PM:
A 2004 Canon "Canoscan 9900F."
It has no driver for Win7 & Win8.
I have my old XPpro computer gathering dust at
home, so I want to put the system HDD from this
old machine into this computer and boot up the XP
when I want to scan. Seems a pity to throw away
a good scanner.
I still cannot access the "Boot Menu" of my
motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7
http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList...d7_v.2.0_e.pdf


The message given at the Canon web site for your printer and both 32
and 64 bit versions of Win 7 is "There is no driver for the OS
Version you selected. The driver may be included in your OS or you
may not need a driver." So my questions are 1) does the OS supply a
driver and 2) are you sure you need one?

Jeff Barnett


I plugged it into the computer Firewire 1394
socket and it was recognized in "devices &
printers" as a "device driver not installed". When
Wndows looked up the Internet the driver "could
not be found".

Using Windows Fax & Scan, the scanner was not
detected, nor with PShop 6 nor Acrobat 10.

Is there some other way?


Retest with the USB cable instead. It has both
Firewire and USB on the hardware interface.

Based on multiple negative leads so far, I would
say "continue to use your WinXP machine to do scans".
Even USB passthru doesn't work well with that beast.
There is no support for users of 64 bit OSes, for
one thing. And the so-called "Vista" driver, turned
out to be a driver from the year 2004.

You can just move the LCD monitor to the WinXP
machine, during your scanning session, then move
it back later. While you could use a KVM to share
one monitor with two computers, that's an unnecessary
expense for just a few scans. But if you plan to scan
on a daily basis, a KVM will help avoid wearing out
the connector.

I share my main LCD monitor between a PC and a Mac. I run the
Mac maybe once a year (it has the scanner connect to the Mac
SCSI bus), and I just move the monitor over to the Mac
while using it. I didn't bother with a KVM. The Mac is
old enough now, the CMOS battery died on it.

Paul

Different person, similar scanner problem.

If I did set up the XP computer on an home LAN, Could I access the
scanner as a shared device on the XP computer? ie similarly to the way
I would share a printer attached to the XP computer and access it
through the LAN connection?

Computer HP Pavilion a1140n about 9 years old running Windows XP SP3 HP
Scanjet 3300C. I have used the scanner on the this computer since I
bought it in 2005


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Old May 30th 14, 01:16 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Art Todesco
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On 5/30/2014 7:51 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 5/29/14 10:32 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
A 2004 Canon "Canoscan 9900F."
It has no driver for Win7 & Win8.
I have my old XPpro computer gathering dust at
home, so I want to put the system HDD from this
old machine into this computer and boot up the XP
when I want to scan. Seems a pity to throw away
a good scanner.
I still cannot access the "Boot Menu" of my
motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7
http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList...d7_v.2.0_e.pdf


See if this will work:

http://www.hamrick.com/

Or you may try W7 Virtual XP, which can be downloaded free with some
version of W7.

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Old May 30th 14, 01:24 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Keith Nuttle
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Default Old scanner won't work.

On 5/30/2014 7:51 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 5/29/14 10:32 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
A 2004 Canon "Canoscan 9900F."
It has no driver for Win7 & Win8.
I have my old XPpro computer gathering dust at
home, so I want to put the system HDD from this
old machine into this computer and boot up the XP
when I want to scan. Seems a pity to throw away
a good scanner.
I still cannot access the "Boot Menu" of my
motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7
http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList...d7_v.2.0_e.pdf


See if this will work:

http://www.hamrick.com/


I checked it for my scanner and found this
"VueScan works with the HP ScanJet 3300c on Windows.

You need to install an HP scanner driver to use this scanner on Windows.

If there isn't an HP scanner driver at www.hp.com for your operating
system, then unfortunately VueScan won't work with this scanner. VueScan
uses a plugin library that's installed with the HP scanner drivers to
talk to this scanner, and doesn't work with this scanner without this
plugin library."
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Old May 30th 14, 04:13 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Peter Jason" schreef in bericht
...
A 2004 Canon "Canoscan 9900F."
It has no driver for Win7 & Win8.
I have my old XPpro computer gathering dust at
home, so I want to put the system HDD from this
old machine into this computer and boot up the XP
when I want to scan. Seems a pity to throw away
a good scanner.
I still cannot access the "Boot Menu" of my
motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7
http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList...d7_v.2.0_e.pdf




Try Vuescan. It supports many older scanners too in Windows 7.



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Old May 30th 14, 04:32 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 30/05/2014 05:32, Peter Jason wrote:
A 2004 Canon "Canoscan 9900F."
It has no driver for Win7 & Win8.
I have my old XPpro computer gathering dust at
home, so I want to put the system HDD from this
old machine into this computer and boot up the XP
when I want to scan. Seems a pity to throw away
a good scanner.
I still cannot access the "Boot Menu" of my
motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7
http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList...d7_v.2.0_e.pdf


I always thought that Windows7 had most generic drivers for devices that
were supported in XP and Vista. I had a very old Epson Multi function
device and Windows 7 recognized it instantly as soon as I plugged it in
a spare USB port.

Somebody mentioned VueScan so it is a possibility but you also need to
consider the cost of a new scanner as compared to the cost of Vuescan
driver. You will find that it is cheaper to buy a new scanner for
Windows 7 and Windows 8. You might think why throw away something that
still works in XP but pragmatism has to come in your decision making in
things like this.



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Old May 30th 14, 05:13 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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In article ,
says...

On 5/30/2014 3:45 AM, Paul wrote:
Peter Jason wrote:
On Thu, 29 May 2014 23:33:38 -0600, Jeff Barnett
wrote:

Peter Jason wrote, On 5/29/2014 10:32 PM:
A 2004 Canon "Canoscan 9900F."
It has no driver for Win7 & Win8.
I have my old XPpro computer gathering dust at
home, so I want to put the system HDD from this
old machine into this computer and boot up the XP
when I want to scan. Seems a pity to throw away
a good scanner.
I still cannot access the "Boot Menu" of my
motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7
http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList...d7_v.2.0_e.pdf


The message given at the Canon web site for your printer and both 32
and 64 bit versions of Win 7 is "There is no driver for the OS
Version you selected. The driver may be included in your OS or you
may not need a driver." So my questions are 1) does the OS supply a
driver and 2) are you sure you need one?

Jeff Barnett

I plugged it into the computer Firewire 1394
socket and it was recognized in "devices &
printers" as a "device driver not installed". When
Wndows looked up the Internet the driver "could
not be found".

Using Windows Fax & Scan, the scanner was not
detected, nor with PShop 6 nor Acrobat 10.

Is there some other way?


Retest with the USB cable instead. It has both
Firewire and USB on the hardware interface.

Based on multiple negative leads so far, I would
say "continue to use your WinXP machine to do scans".
Even USB passthru doesn't work well with that beast.
There is no support for users of 64 bit OSes, for
one thing. And the so-called "Vista" driver, turned
out to be a driver from the year 2004.

You can just move the LCD monitor to the WinXP
machine, during your scanning session, then move


Scanners aren't usually shared. Makes no sense as you have to be beside
scanner anyway to use it is thinking I guess. That said, one of our
newer all-in-one printers provides scanning across the network. Why
bother in my case as I have to walk up stairs to put paper in etc. so
why not just use pc beside it and just transfer file when done, lot less
legwork.
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Old May 30th 14, 05:23 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul
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Good Guy wrote:

pragmatism has to come in your decision making in things like this.


Yes, he already has a computer with WinXP and driver
for the scanner, sitting in the room with him.
All he has to do is connect it up and use it.
You can't get more practical than that. Nothing
additional need be purchased.

It would be nice to use VirtualBox, WinXP, and USB
passthru, or use Vuescan, but the threads I've seen so
far suggest that might not work all that well. The
VirtualBox passthru didn't seem to work with the 9900f,
and Vuescan requires a windows driver for that particular
scanner.

The existing WinXP box remains the winner, in terms
of low cost solutions. It would not exactly be
easy to match the specs of the 9900f, because
it scans in both visible light and infrared, as
part of image cleanup. Something cheesy scanners
don't have. So you can't duplicate this scanner
for $100. It would be a bit more than that.

I continue to use an old computer and an old scanner.
And prefer that to some new $100 piece of junk. As long
as you have the space for it, it's a good solution.

Paul
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Old May 30th 14, 05:37 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 30/05/2014 17:23, Paul wrote:

Yes, he already has a computer with WinXP and driver
for the scanner, sitting in the room with him.
All he has to do is connect it up and use it.
You can't get more practical than that. Nothing
additional need be purchased.



How long can he continue using his XP machine? Machines don't last
forever and sooner or later he has to replace his archaic machine that
currently runs on XP. So his problem is likely to return as soon as his
XP has died. I am, of course, assuming that the cost of having a dumb
machine sitting there idle just for scanning a document once in a blue
moon is negligible but for some of us it isn't. How much does a local
shop charge to scan a document?

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