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  #31  
Old September 8th 04, 06:26 AM
Rock
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Jerry wrote:

I certainly hope Symantec does not replace ghost with Drive Image. Pre-XP
DriveImage 2002 was very good. Post XP, and Drive Image 7 is a piece of
garbage. Ghost 2003 (which comes in Symantec's Systemworks 2004) is
excellent once you learn to use it. There is a lot more to it than the
tutorials lead you to believe.


"Al Smith" wrote in message
...

Symantec Ghost was not made by symantec.
The bought nortons ghost.

Someone in the xp general group told me that.


This is correct. Symantic bought both Ghost and Drive Image. They
are like some great, gelatinous monster from beyond the stars, its
endlessly multiplying tentacles grabbing up everything that comes
within their reach and consuming it. Come to think of it ... they
are like Microsoft.


Drive Image 7 works great.

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  #32  
Old September 8th 04, 06:28 AM
Rock
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Barry Watzman wrote:

It's more likely that Drive Image will replace Ghost than that Ghost
will replace Drive Image. Otherwise, why would Symantec have paid
millions to acquire PowerQuest, which only has 2 products.


Lou wrote:

I've been using Drive Image 2002 with XP Home and now with SP2.

Recently found out PowerQuest was acquired by Symantec. At some time
I will have to replace Drive Image. Tried to seach Symantec site for
info on Ghost. Not having much success.

1. Is there a website to get detailed info on Ghost?

I specifically want to know if Ghost supports networked drives and
does it provide the means to create a DOS boot disk with TCPIP drivers
supporting networked drives to recover system in event of HDD crash?
I am doing all this with Drive Image 2002.

Lou

On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 01:00:44 GMT, "Jerry"
wrote:


I certainly hope Symantec does not replace ghost with Drive Image.
Pre-XP
DriveImage 2002 was very good. Post XP, and Drive Image 7 is a piece of
garbage. Ghost 2003 (which comes in Symantec's Systemworks 2004) is
excellent once you learn to use it. There is a lot more to it than the
tutorials lead you to believe.


"Al Smith" wrote in message
...

Symantec Ghost was not made by symantec.
The bought nortons ghost.

Someone in the xp general group told me that.


This is correct. Symantic bought both Ghost and Drive Image. They
are like some great, gelatinous monster from beyond the stars, its
endlessly multiplying tentacles grabbing up everything that comes
within their reach and consuming it. Come to think of it ... they
are like Microsoft.


For the technology and to kill a competitor, but not to replace Ghost,
IMO.

  #33  
Old September 8th 04, 06:31 AM
Rock
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Greg R wrote:

Symantec Ghost was not made by symantec.
The bought nortons ghost.

Someone in the xp general group told me that.





On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 13:09:08 -0700, Rock wrote:



Al Smith wrote:


I don’t mind answering non-Microsoft products if I know the answer.
However Symantec has terrible support advice. They told me ghost
2003 was to be used only for cloning drives not backing up- how dumb.


Symantic recently purchased Drive Image, a superior product to Ghost, so
they may intend to reduce the role of Ghost in future and switch all
their backup sales to Drive Image.


Actually they have incorporated Drive Image technology into the new
version of Ghost. It now requires the .Net Framework. I would guess
that, if a product is going away it will be Drive Image. Symantec has a
track record of killing off products they buy.



Greg R



http://www.angelfire.com/in4/computertips/


And before, I think when it was still Norton, they gobbled up and killed
Central Point Software even after exclaiming loudly after the purchase
that the products would continue.

  #34  
Old September 8th 04, 07:07 AM
Al Smith
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Default Norton Ghost 2003???

I certainly hope Symantec does not replace ghost with Drive Image. Pre-XP
DriveImage 2002 was very good. Post XP, and Drive Image 7 is a piece of
garbage. Ghost 2003 (which comes in Symantec's Systemworks 2004) is
excellent once you learn to use it. There is a lot more to it than the
tutorials lead you to believe.


I don't know why you say this. I like Drive Image 7, mostly. The
file browser is a step backward from the old file browser. In the
old one, you could just drag a file from the compressed backup set
to a folder on the hard drive -- any folder or any hard drive --
and it would be uncompressed and copied out. The new browser
doesn't seem to show the complete file tree for the computer, only
the file tree of the backup set. As I say, a step backward. But
the backup function itself works very nicely, and I like being
able to mirror my C drive without leaving Windows XP.
  #35  
Old September 8th 04, 10:58 AM
Peter Wilkins
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Default Norton Ghost 2003???

On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 18:43:07 -0700, Lou wrote
:

I've been using Drive Image 2002 with XP Home and now with SP2.

Recently found out PowerQuest was acquired by Symantec. At some time
I will have to replace Drive Image. Tried to seach Symantec site for
info on Ghost. Not having much success.

1. Is there a website to get detailed info on Ghost?


Yes.
http://www.symantec.com/

I specifically want to know if Ghost supports networked drives and
does it provide the means to create a DOS boot disk with TCPIP drivers
supporting networked drives to recover system in event of HDD crash?
I am doing all this with Drive Image 2002.

I don't know about earlier versions of Ghost, but I am successfully
using Ghost 2003 to backup images to network drives. I assume later
versions of Ghost will do it too. I use XP Pro.

There is a slight complication with Ghost 2003- the network drive that
you want to backup to has to be mapped on the computer being backed
up, but that's pretty easy to do, so it just appears as another
lettered drive on the computer being backed up. =20
I use Y and Z for the two partitions I alternately backup to.

I can read the images from the network using Ghost Explorer and easily
and quickly restore individual files if needed rather than the whole
image. That's a real pain to do using multidisc DVD or CD images.

I do find backup not fully reliable via my WiFi (11M) - sometimes it
has failed part way through the image. So when I want to do a backup
I plug in the wired ethernet link (100M) and have never had problems
with that.

You can create a networked boot floppy - if you have a floppy drive.
I had to buy a USB external one as my laptop didn't have one, just in
case I ever need it, but it's a bit belt and braces as you can also
create bootable DVD or CD images from Ghost. I keep a bootable DVD
image backup handy, that I can use to get the system back up, then I
can restore from the latest network image over the network.

So the floppy is really redundant but it came with a multi card
reader/writer covering the three cards I use (CF, SD and SM) so I
figured it was worth it.....
--=20
Regards,
Peter Wilkins
  #36  
Old September 8th 04, 11:01 AM
Peter Wilkins
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Default Norton Ghost 2003???

On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 21:53:05 -0400, Barry Watzman
wrote :


Personally, I think that Drive Image -- both versions -- are better than=

=20
Ghost, and I expect that Ghost will disappear, but that DI will be able=20
to read Ghost backups.

I'm told that Acronis True Image 8 is better than both of them, but I
haven't tried it myself.
--=20
Regards,
Peter Wilkins
  #37  
Old September 8th 04, 01:31 PM
Greg R
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Default Norton Ghost 2003???

Peter,
I think Ghost 2003 was the last version Symantec made. I also think
it is the only version that will restore & backup ntfs partition from
a dos boot disk.



Side Note for nonobaddog.-I don’t appreciate your comment. You need
to read your post again.

Ghost has been a Norton product since it's inception, and became Symantec property
when Peter Norton sold his company to Symantec.














On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 19:58:36 +1000, Peter Wilkins wrote:


On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 18:43:07 -0700, Lou wrote
:

I've been using Drive Image 2002 with XP Home and now with SP2.

Recently found out PowerQuest was acquired by Symantec. At some time
I will have to replace Drive Image. Tried to seach Symantec site for
info on Ghost. Not having much success.

1. Is there a website to get detailed info on Ghost?


Yes.
http://www.symantec.com/

I specifically want to know if Ghost supports networked drives and
does it provide the means to create a DOS boot disk with TCPIP drivers
supporting networked drives to recover system in event of HDD crash?
I am doing all this with Drive Image 2002.

I don't know about earlier versions of Ghost, but I am successfully
using Ghost 2003 to backup images to network drives. I assume later
versions of Ghost will do it too. I use XP Pro.

There is a slight complication with Ghost 2003- the network drive that
you want to backup to has to be mapped on the computer being backed
up, but that's pretty easy to do, so it just appears as another
lettered drive on the computer being backed up.
I use Y and Z for the two partitions I alternately backup to.

I can read the images from the network using Ghost Explorer and easily
and quickly restore individual files if needed rather than the whole
image. That's a real pain to do using multidisc DVD or CD images.

I do find backup not fully reliable via my WiFi (11M) - sometimes it
has failed part way through the image. So when I want to do a backup
I plug in the wired ethernet link (100M) and have never had problems
with that.

You can create a networked boot floppy - if you have a floppy drive.
I had to buy a USB external one as my laptop didn't have one, just in
case I ever need it, but it's a bit belt and braces as you can also
create bootable DVD or CD images from Ghost. I keep a bootable DVD
image backup handy, that I can use to get the system back up, then I
can restore from the latest network image over the network.

So the floppy is really redundant but it came with a multi card
reader/writer covering the three cards I use (CF, SD and SM) so I
figured it was worth it.....


  #38  
Old September 8th 04, 08:00 PM
NoNoBadDog!
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Default Norton Ghost 2003???

Side note to Greg R.

Not man enough to admit you are wrong...that 's okay. Some people are like
that.

Ghost was written by Peter Norton. It has always been a Norton product.
It became the property of Symantec when Peter Norton sold his company to
Symantec.

Simple.

If you don't get it...oh well.

Otherwise, STFU.

Bobby

"Greg R" wrote in message
...
Peter,
I think Ghost 2003 was the last version Symantec made. I also think
it is the only version that will restore & backup ntfs partition from
a dos boot disk.



Side Note for nonobaddog.-I don't appreciate your comment. You need
to read your post again.

Ghost has been a Norton product since it's inception, and became
Symantec property
when Peter Norton sold his company to Symantec.














On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 19:58:36 +1000, Peter Wilkins
wrote:


On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 18:43:07 -0700, Lou wrote
:

I've been using Drive Image 2002 with XP Home and now with SP2.

Recently found out PowerQuest was acquired by Symantec. At some time
I will have to replace Drive Image. Tried to seach Symantec site for
info on Ghost. Not having much success.

1. Is there a website to get detailed info on Ghost?


Yes.
http://www.symantec.com/

I specifically want to know if Ghost supports networked drives and
does it provide the means to create a DOS boot disk with TCPIP drivers
supporting networked drives to recover system in event of HDD crash?
I am doing all this with Drive Image 2002.

I don't know about earlier versions of Ghost, but I am successfully
using Ghost 2003 to backup images to network drives. I assume later
versions of Ghost will do it too. I use XP Pro.

There is a slight complication with Ghost 2003- the network drive that
you want to backup to has to be mapped on the computer being backed
up, but that's pretty easy to do, so it just appears as another
lettered drive on the computer being backed up.
I use Y and Z for the two partitions I alternately backup to.

I can read the images from the network using Ghost Explorer and easily
and quickly restore individual files if needed rather than the whole
image. That's a real pain to do using multidisc DVD or CD images.

I do find backup not fully reliable via my WiFi (11M) - sometimes it
has failed part way through the image. So when I want to do a backup
I plug in the wired ethernet link (100M) and have never had problems
with that.

You can create a networked boot floppy - if you have a floppy drive.
I had to buy a USB external one as my laptop didn't have one, just in
case I ever need it, but it's a bit belt and braces as you can also
create bootable DVD or CD images from Ghost. I keep a bootable DVD
image backup handy, that I can use to get the system back up, then I
can restore from the latest network image over the network.

So the floppy is really redundant but it came with a multi card
reader/writer covering the three cards I use (CF, SD and SM) so I
figured it was worth it.....




  #39  
Old September 8th 04, 11:09 PM
Peter Wilkins
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Default Norton Ghost 2003???

On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 07:31:58 -0500, Greg R
wrote :

Peter,
I think Ghost 2003 was the last version Symantec made. I also think
it is the only version that will restore & backup ntfs partition from
a dos boot disk.

Thanks for that info. I have used earlier versions of Ghost
successfully but not over a network and not with NTFS partitions, and
I'm not too keen to upgrade to later versions of the Ghosted-Drive
Image or whatever combination it will be now Symantec has Drive Image.
Particularly if they won't restore my NTFS partitions using the boot
floppy!

I'm currently evaluating Acronis True Image and it seems pretty good
so far - and avoids the reversion to DOS altogether. I still have
some reservations about backing up "in-use" files from within Windows,
with the possibility that some files will have changed after backing
up earlier ones, so you might not get a "True Image" after all, but
who knows?
--=20
Regards,
Peter Wilkins
  #40  
Old September 9th 04, 09:49 PM
Pivert
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Default Norton Ghost 2003???

Norton Ghost 2003 can very well restore NTFS partitions and does it from
floppy and is not yet driveimage based ( driveimage based is version 9
however).

"Peter Wilkins" a écrit dans le message de
...
On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 07:31:58 -0500, Greg R
wrote :

Peter,
I think Ghost 2003 was the last version Symantec made. I also think
it is the only version that will restore & backup ntfs partition from
a dos boot disk.

Thanks for that info. I have used earlier versions of Ghost
successfully but not over a network and not with NTFS partitions, and
I'm not too keen to upgrade to later versions of the Ghosted-Drive
Image or whatever combination it will be now Symantec has Drive Image.
Particularly if they won't restore my NTFS partitions using the boot
floppy!

I'm currently evaluating Acronis True Image and it seems pretty good
so far - and avoids the reversion to DOS altogether. I still have
some reservations about backing up "in-use" files from within Windows,
with the possibility that some files will have changed after backing
up earlier ones, so you might not get a "True Image" after all, but
who knows?
--
Regards,
Peter Wilkins


  #41  
Old September 9th 04, 11:33 PM
Peter Wilkins
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On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 22:49:20 +0200, "Pivert" wrote :

Norton Ghost 2003 can very well restore NTFS partitions and does it from
floppy and is not yet driveimage based ( driveimage based is version 9
however).

Yes I know, I'm using it now. I said I had not used earlier versions
with NTFS, because I was using FAT then.
--=20
Regards,
Peter Wilkins
  #42  
Old September 9th 04, 11:52 PM
Greg R
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On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 22:49:20 +0200, "Pivert" wrote:

Norton Ghost 2003 can very well restore NTFS partitions and does it from
floppy and is not yet driveimage based ( driveimage based is version 9
however).


That what I said.

I think it may be the last or the only version of ghost that does
this.

Greg R
  #43  
Old September 10th 04, 08:19 AM
Ben
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Greg R wrote:

On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 22:49:20 +0200, "Pivert" wrote:


Norton Ghost 2003 can very well restore NTFS partitions and does it from
floppy and is not yet driveimage based ( driveimage based is version 9
however).



That what I said.

I think it may be the last or the only version of ghost that does
this.

Greg R

1.I know Ghost 7 can restore an NTFS partition.
2.Image files can be created onto CDs..........
3.The restore CD #1 can be bootable.......
  #44  
Old September 17th 04, 03:58 AM
Alessandro
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you must set the command line to make a image sector by sector...
"Pivert" escreveu na mensagem
...
Norton Ghost 2003 can very well restore NTFS partitions and does it from
floppy and is not yet driveimage based ( driveimage based is version 9
however).

"Peter Wilkins" a écrit dans le message
de
...
On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 07:31:58 -0500, Greg R
wrote :

Peter,
I think Ghost 2003 was the last version Symantec made. I also think
it is the only version that will restore & backup ntfs partition from
a dos boot disk.

Thanks for that info. I have used earlier versions of Ghost
successfully but not over a network and not with NTFS partitions, and
I'm not too keen to upgrade to later versions of the Ghosted-Drive
Image or whatever combination it will be now Symantec has Drive Image.
Particularly if they won't restore my NTFS partitions using the boot
floppy!

I'm currently evaluating Acronis True Image and it seems pretty good
so far - and avoids the reversion to DOS altogether. I still have
some reservations about backing up "in-use" files from within Windows,
with the possibility that some files will have changed after backing
up earlier ones, so you might not get a "True Image" after all, but
who knows?
--
Regards,
Peter Wilkins




  #45  
Old September 17th 04, 01:41 PM
Greg R
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 23:58:57 -0300, "Alessandro"
wrote:

you must set the command line to make a image sector by sector...


No need to do that. I use ghost 2003.
If you used image sector by sector you would need over 50 cds.

Greg R

"Pivert" escreveu na mensagem
. ..
Norton Ghost 2003 can very well restore NTFS partitions and does it from
floppy and is not yet driveimage based ( driveimage based is version 9
however).

"Peter Wilkins" a écrit dans le message
de
...
On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 07:31:58 -0500, Greg R
wrote :

Peter,
I think Ghost 2003 was the last version Symantec made. I also think
it is the only version that will restore & backup ntfs partition from
a dos boot disk.

Thanks for that info. I have used earlier versions of Ghost
successfully but not over a network and not with NTFS partitions, and
I'm not too keen to upgrade to later versions of the Ghosted-Drive
Image or whatever combination it will be now Symantec has Drive Image.
Particularly if they won't restore my NTFS partitions using the boot
floppy!

I'm currently evaluating Acronis True Image and it seems pretty good
so far - and avoids the reversion to DOS altogether. I still have
some reservations about backing up "in-use" files from within Windows,
with the possibility that some files will have changed after backing
up earlier ones, so you might not get a "True Image" after all, but
who knows?
--
Regards,
Peter Wilkins




 




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