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Norton Ghost 2003???
Jerry wrote:
I certainly hope Symantec does not replace ghost with Drive Image. Pre-XP DriveImage 2002 was very good. Post XP, and Drive Image 7 is a piece of garbage. Ghost 2003 (which comes in Symantec's Systemworks 2004) is excellent once you learn to use it. There is a lot more to it than the tutorials lead you to believe. "Al Smith" wrote in message ... Symantec Ghost was not made by symantec. The bought nortons ghost. Someone in the xp general group told me that. This is correct. Symantic bought both Ghost and Drive Image. They are like some great, gelatinous monster from beyond the stars, its endlessly multiplying tentacles grabbing up everything that comes within their reach and consuming it. Come to think of it ... they are like Microsoft. Drive Image 7 works great. |
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Norton Ghost 2003???
Barry Watzman wrote:
It's more likely that Drive Image will replace Ghost than that Ghost will replace Drive Image. Otherwise, why would Symantec have paid millions to acquire PowerQuest, which only has 2 products. Lou wrote: I've been using Drive Image 2002 with XP Home and now with SP2. Recently found out PowerQuest was acquired by Symantec. At some time I will have to replace Drive Image. Tried to seach Symantec site for info on Ghost. Not having much success. 1. Is there a website to get detailed info on Ghost? I specifically want to know if Ghost supports networked drives and does it provide the means to create a DOS boot disk with TCPIP drivers supporting networked drives to recover system in event of HDD crash? I am doing all this with Drive Image 2002. Lou On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 01:00:44 GMT, "Jerry" wrote: I certainly hope Symantec does not replace ghost with Drive Image. Pre-XP DriveImage 2002 was very good. Post XP, and Drive Image 7 is a piece of garbage. Ghost 2003 (which comes in Symantec's Systemworks 2004) is excellent once you learn to use it. There is a lot more to it than the tutorials lead you to believe. "Al Smith" wrote in message ... Symantec Ghost was not made by symantec. The bought nortons ghost. Someone in the xp general group told me that. This is correct. Symantic bought both Ghost and Drive Image. They are like some great, gelatinous monster from beyond the stars, its endlessly multiplying tentacles grabbing up everything that comes within their reach and consuming it. Come to think of it ... they are like Microsoft. For the technology and to kill a competitor, but not to replace Ghost, IMO. |
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Norton Ghost 2003???
Greg R wrote:
Symantec Ghost was not made by symantec. The bought nortons ghost. Someone in the xp general group told me that. On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 13:09:08 -0700, Rock wrote: Al Smith wrote: I don’t mind answering non-Microsoft products if I know the answer. However Symantec has terrible support advice. They told me ghost 2003 was to be used only for cloning drives not backing up- how dumb. Symantic recently purchased Drive Image, a superior product to Ghost, so they may intend to reduce the role of Ghost in future and switch all their backup sales to Drive Image. Actually they have incorporated Drive Image technology into the new version of Ghost. It now requires the .Net Framework. I would guess that, if a product is going away it will be Drive Image. Symantec has a track record of killing off products they buy. Greg R http://www.angelfire.com/in4/computertips/ And before, I think when it was still Norton, they gobbled up and killed Central Point Software even after exclaiming loudly after the purchase that the products would continue. |
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Norton Ghost 2003???
I certainly hope Symantec does not replace ghost with Drive Image. Pre-XP
DriveImage 2002 was very good. Post XP, and Drive Image 7 is a piece of garbage. Ghost 2003 (which comes in Symantec's Systemworks 2004) is excellent once you learn to use it. There is a lot more to it than the tutorials lead you to believe. I don't know why you say this. I like Drive Image 7, mostly. The file browser is a step backward from the old file browser. In the old one, you could just drag a file from the compressed backup set to a folder on the hard drive -- any folder or any hard drive -- and it would be uncompressed and copied out. The new browser doesn't seem to show the complete file tree for the computer, only the file tree of the backup set. As I say, a step backward. But the backup function itself works very nicely, and I like being able to mirror my C drive without leaving Windows XP. |
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Norton Ghost 2003???
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 18:43:07 -0700, Lou wrote
: I've been using Drive Image 2002 with XP Home and now with SP2. Recently found out PowerQuest was acquired by Symantec. At some time I will have to replace Drive Image. Tried to seach Symantec site for info on Ghost. Not having much success. 1. Is there a website to get detailed info on Ghost? Yes. http://www.symantec.com/ I specifically want to know if Ghost supports networked drives and does it provide the means to create a DOS boot disk with TCPIP drivers supporting networked drives to recover system in event of HDD crash? I am doing all this with Drive Image 2002. I don't know about earlier versions of Ghost, but I am successfully using Ghost 2003 to backup images to network drives. I assume later versions of Ghost will do it too. I use XP Pro. There is a slight complication with Ghost 2003- the network drive that you want to backup to has to be mapped on the computer being backed up, but that's pretty easy to do, so it just appears as another lettered drive on the computer being backed up. =20 I use Y and Z for the two partitions I alternately backup to. I can read the images from the network using Ghost Explorer and easily and quickly restore individual files if needed rather than the whole image. That's a real pain to do using multidisc DVD or CD images. I do find backup not fully reliable via my WiFi (11M) - sometimes it has failed part way through the image. So when I want to do a backup I plug in the wired ethernet link (100M) and have never had problems with that. You can create a networked boot floppy - if you have a floppy drive. I had to buy a USB external one as my laptop didn't have one, just in case I ever need it, but it's a bit belt and braces as you can also create bootable DVD or CD images from Ghost. I keep a bootable DVD image backup handy, that I can use to get the system back up, then I can restore from the latest network image over the network. So the floppy is really redundant but it came with a multi card reader/writer covering the three cards I use (CF, SD and SM) so I figured it was worth it..... --=20 Regards, Peter Wilkins |
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Norton Ghost 2003???
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 21:53:05 -0400, Barry Watzman
wrote : Personally, I think that Drive Image -- both versions -- are better than= =20 Ghost, and I expect that Ghost will disappear, but that DI will be able=20 to read Ghost backups. I'm told that Acronis True Image 8 is better than both of them, but I haven't tried it myself. --=20 Regards, Peter Wilkins |
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Norton Ghost 2003???
Peter,
I think Ghost 2003 was the last version Symantec made. I also think it is the only version that will restore & backup ntfs partition from a dos boot disk. Side Note for nonobaddog.-I don’t appreciate your comment. You need to read your post again. Ghost has been a Norton product since it's inception, and became Symantec property when Peter Norton sold his company to Symantec. On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 19:58:36 +1000, Peter Wilkins wrote: On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 18:43:07 -0700, Lou wrote : I've been using Drive Image 2002 with XP Home and now with SP2. Recently found out PowerQuest was acquired by Symantec. At some time I will have to replace Drive Image. Tried to seach Symantec site for info on Ghost. Not having much success. 1. Is there a website to get detailed info on Ghost? Yes. http://www.symantec.com/ I specifically want to know if Ghost supports networked drives and does it provide the means to create a DOS boot disk with TCPIP drivers supporting networked drives to recover system in event of HDD crash? I am doing all this with Drive Image 2002. I don't know about earlier versions of Ghost, but I am successfully using Ghost 2003 to backup images to network drives. I assume later versions of Ghost will do it too. I use XP Pro. There is a slight complication with Ghost 2003- the network drive that you want to backup to has to be mapped on the computer being backed up, but that's pretty easy to do, so it just appears as another lettered drive on the computer being backed up. I use Y and Z for the two partitions I alternately backup to. I can read the images from the network using Ghost Explorer and easily and quickly restore individual files if needed rather than the whole image. That's a real pain to do using multidisc DVD or CD images. I do find backup not fully reliable via my WiFi (11M) - sometimes it has failed part way through the image. So when I want to do a backup I plug in the wired ethernet link (100M) and have never had problems with that. You can create a networked boot floppy - if you have a floppy drive. I had to buy a USB external one as my laptop didn't have one, just in case I ever need it, but it's a bit belt and braces as you can also create bootable DVD or CD images from Ghost. I keep a bootable DVD image backup handy, that I can use to get the system back up, then I can restore from the latest network image over the network. So the floppy is really redundant but it came with a multi card reader/writer covering the three cards I use (CF, SD and SM) so I figured it was worth it..... |
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Norton Ghost 2003???
Side note to Greg R.
Not man enough to admit you are wrong...that 's okay. Some people are like that. Ghost was written by Peter Norton. It has always been a Norton product. It became the property of Symantec when Peter Norton sold his company to Symantec. Simple. If you don't get it...oh well. Otherwise, STFU. Bobby "Greg R" wrote in message ... Peter, I think Ghost 2003 was the last version Symantec made. I also think it is the only version that will restore & backup ntfs partition from a dos boot disk. Side Note for nonobaddog.-I don't appreciate your comment. You need to read your post again. Ghost has been a Norton product since it's inception, and became Symantec property when Peter Norton sold his company to Symantec. On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 19:58:36 +1000, Peter Wilkins wrote: On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 18:43:07 -0700, Lou wrote : I've been using Drive Image 2002 with XP Home and now with SP2. Recently found out PowerQuest was acquired by Symantec. At some time I will have to replace Drive Image. Tried to seach Symantec site for info on Ghost. Not having much success. 1. Is there a website to get detailed info on Ghost? Yes. http://www.symantec.com/ I specifically want to know if Ghost supports networked drives and does it provide the means to create a DOS boot disk with TCPIP drivers supporting networked drives to recover system in event of HDD crash? I am doing all this with Drive Image 2002. I don't know about earlier versions of Ghost, but I am successfully using Ghost 2003 to backup images to network drives. I assume later versions of Ghost will do it too. I use XP Pro. There is a slight complication with Ghost 2003- the network drive that you want to backup to has to be mapped on the computer being backed up, but that's pretty easy to do, so it just appears as another lettered drive on the computer being backed up. I use Y and Z for the two partitions I alternately backup to. I can read the images from the network using Ghost Explorer and easily and quickly restore individual files if needed rather than the whole image. That's a real pain to do using multidisc DVD or CD images. I do find backup not fully reliable via my WiFi (11M) - sometimes it has failed part way through the image. So when I want to do a backup I plug in the wired ethernet link (100M) and have never had problems with that. You can create a networked boot floppy - if you have a floppy drive. I had to buy a USB external one as my laptop didn't have one, just in case I ever need it, but it's a bit belt and braces as you can also create bootable DVD or CD images from Ghost. I keep a bootable DVD image backup handy, that I can use to get the system back up, then I can restore from the latest network image over the network. So the floppy is really redundant but it came with a multi card reader/writer covering the three cards I use (CF, SD and SM) so I figured it was worth it..... |
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Norton Ghost 2003???
On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 07:31:58 -0500, Greg R
wrote : Peter, I think Ghost 2003 was the last version Symantec made. I also think it is the only version that will restore & backup ntfs partition from a dos boot disk. Thanks for that info. I have used earlier versions of Ghost successfully but not over a network and not with NTFS partitions, and I'm not too keen to upgrade to later versions of the Ghosted-Drive Image or whatever combination it will be now Symantec has Drive Image. Particularly if they won't restore my NTFS partitions using the boot floppy! I'm currently evaluating Acronis True Image and it seems pretty good so far - and avoids the reversion to DOS altogether. I still have some reservations about backing up "in-use" files from within Windows, with the possibility that some files will have changed after backing up earlier ones, so you might not get a "True Image" after all, but who knows? --=20 Regards, Peter Wilkins |
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Norton Ghost 2003???
Norton Ghost 2003 can very well restore NTFS partitions and does it from
floppy and is not yet driveimage based ( driveimage based is version 9 however). "Peter Wilkins" a écrit dans le message de ... On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 07:31:58 -0500, Greg R wrote : Peter, I think Ghost 2003 was the last version Symantec made. I also think it is the only version that will restore & backup ntfs partition from a dos boot disk. Thanks for that info. I have used earlier versions of Ghost successfully but not over a network and not with NTFS partitions, and I'm not too keen to upgrade to later versions of the Ghosted-Drive Image or whatever combination it will be now Symantec has Drive Image. Particularly if they won't restore my NTFS partitions using the boot floppy! I'm currently evaluating Acronis True Image and it seems pretty good so far - and avoids the reversion to DOS altogether. I still have some reservations about backing up "in-use" files from within Windows, with the possibility that some files will have changed after backing up earlier ones, so you might not get a "True Image" after all, but who knows? -- Regards, Peter Wilkins |
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Norton Ghost 2003???
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 22:49:20 +0200, "Pivert" wrote :
Norton Ghost 2003 can very well restore NTFS partitions and does it from floppy and is not yet driveimage based ( driveimage based is version 9 however). Yes I know, I'm using it now. I said I had not used earlier versions with NTFS, because I was using FAT then. --=20 Regards, Peter Wilkins |
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Norton Ghost 2003???
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 22:49:20 +0200, "Pivert" wrote:
Norton Ghost 2003 can very well restore NTFS partitions and does it from floppy and is not yet driveimage based ( driveimage based is version 9 however). That what I said. I think it may be the last or the only version of ghost that does this. Greg R |
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Norton Ghost 2003???
Greg R wrote:
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 22:49:20 +0200, "Pivert" wrote: Norton Ghost 2003 can very well restore NTFS partitions and does it from floppy and is not yet driveimage based ( driveimage based is version 9 however). That what I said. I think it may be the last or the only version of ghost that does this. Greg R 1.I know Ghost 7 can restore an NTFS partition. 2.Image files can be created onto CDs.......... 3.The restore CD #1 can be bootable....... |
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Norton Ghost 2003???
you must set the command line to make a image sector by sector...
"Pivert" escreveu na mensagem ... Norton Ghost 2003 can very well restore NTFS partitions and does it from floppy and is not yet driveimage based ( driveimage based is version 9 however). "Peter Wilkins" a écrit dans le message de ... On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 07:31:58 -0500, Greg R wrote : Peter, I think Ghost 2003 was the last version Symantec made. I also think it is the only version that will restore & backup ntfs partition from a dos boot disk. Thanks for that info. I have used earlier versions of Ghost successfully but not over a network and not with NTFS partitions, and I'm not too keen to upgrade to later versions of the Ghosted-Drive Image or whatever combination it will be now Symantec has Drive Image. Particularly if they won't restore my NTFS partitions using the boot floppy! I'm currently evaluating Acronis True Image and it seems pretty good so far - and avoids the reversion to DOS altogether. I still have some reservations about backing up "in-use" files from within Windows, with the possibility that some files will have changed after backing up earlier ones, so you might not get a "True Image" after all, but who knows? -- Regards, Peter Wilkins |
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Norton Ghost 2003???
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 23:58:57 -0300, "Alessandro"
wrote: you must set the command line to make a image sector by sector... No need to do that. I use ghost 2003. If you used image sector by sector you would need over 50 cds. Greg R "Pivert" escreveu na mensagem . .. Norton Ghost 2003 can very well restore NTFS partitions and does it from floppy and is not yet driveimage based ( driveimage based is version 9 however). "Peter Wilkins" a écrit dans le message de ... On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 07:31:58 -0500, Greg R wrote : Peter, I think Ghost 2003 was the last version Symantec made. I also think it is the only version that will restore & backup ntfs partition from a dos boot disk. Thanks for that info. I have used earlier versions of Ghost successfully but not over a network and not with NTFS partitions, and I'm not too keen to upgrade to later versions of the Ghosted-Drive Image or whatever combination it will be now Symantec has Drive Image. Particularly if they won't restore my NTFS partitions using the boot floppy! I'm currently evaluating Acronis True Image and it seems pretty good so far - and avoids the reversion to DOS altogether. I still have some reservations about backing up "in-use" files from within Windows, with the possibility that some files will have changed after backing up earlier ones, so you might not get a "True Image" after all, but who knows? -- Regards, Peter Wilkins |
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