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Tom respectfully replied ;-) Whatever, you obviously pick and choose what I post to see what help I don't give for your own defense, and I give answers here that are of help quite often. I have read your posts also, and you complain about something I do, then violate that by doing it also. If you want "Official" to mean something to you, then that is fine, you have shown already that words mean something to you other than mainstream meanings. Considering what I first approached you on about your use of words, the OP has an Official install of XP on her PC. I asked you a question regarding your term, and again as usual, your penchant for looking into things more than I do, is your problem, not mine. Keep in mind your comment regarding what help one offers around here, then we'll see how much you give, and how you criticize, or not criticize others that give almost no help here, and belittle others). "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Tom When your answers to people are beyond reproach and correct in every way, then you have a case to criticize others.. presently, you are a long way off of the mark and you know it.. I took task with you originally because your contributions do little to help OPs, and your criticisms of those that do try to help also have little value.. I assume that you will strive to improve as you expect others so to do.. See you around the newsgroups.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... No, not my goal to complain about your lack of patience or virtues thereof of an MVP. I don't care that you really have those initials, they only mean as much as the person who wants to represent those letters. I criticize when I feel it is needed, and it is something I don't do with some kind of pleasure. As such, I also take criticism, and find fault in myself when it is pointed out to me, I have no problem with that as well. You simply got bent over simple question, somehow tying it to your personal vision of what my persona is to you, that I am not really asking the question that I did, if for some ulterior motives; that is your problem, not mine. I take words for what they are in these forums, without placing some personality that I may or may not know exist, to those those words. I also do not make words mean something else, that isn't standard, hence why I asked you straight up what you meant, though such a request seemed a bit more than you could handle. Time to move on now! "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Tom I have seen your posts in other newsgroups, as well you know.. you have a tendency to want to criticize others, especially if they are using terms other than what you feel they should.. good for you.. Re. my status as an MVP, if Microsoft feel that my standard of support no longer qualifies for the status, I will lose it.. MVP is not a lifetime award.. it has to be earned yearly.. You are going to have to wait until 2006 to see the outcome.. either that or complain to the MVP organisation about my performance.. e-mail me, and I will send you the IDs of people to whom you can forward complaints.. maybe you could get me struck of before 2006.. would that make you feel better?.. your call.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... I personally do not care if you had me in your message filters, killfiles are people who typically avoid seeing their words pointed out to them when they are wrong or inconclusive with their words (as MPT does to so many, when they point out to her, as she violates her own rules). I simply asked you a question, if you don't want to explain it, that is perfectly fine and I don't care; it shows your willingness to explain what this means to you as you get festered over it, as well as shows your level of an MVP, IMHO. Anyway, my second reponse was a legitmnate question, which was: But, those are "official" versions right (as long as they come with the certifiable documentation, e.g. COA label, etc)? You then get testy with the "I'm not in the mood for splitting hairs" thingie, LOL. Maybe you should give it up for a time, or take some strong muscle relaxers before doing newsgroup readings and replies. Note, my original questions were not nasty, nor were they posted to get a rise, I would have asked any other the very same thing, had they posted in the same manner. "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Tom If I didn't have patience, your name and ID would be in a message rule.. I know that you consider yourself smart by questioning almost everything that I or other MVPs say, but I consider behaviour like yours to be 'compulsive', as probably will many other people.. And no, I am not going to explain anything to you just so that your ego can take a boost.. if you are happy for the world and his dog to see you as a 'nitpicking' troll, then you are doing an excellent job.. For the record, you don't get me down at all.. your posts amuse me.. keep up the good work.. as long as you keep making yourself look bad, the rest of us can bask in your wake.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... *Mike Hall MS-MVP, Hmm, gets testy, and refuses to explain what "Official" versions mean to him* Bottom line, whether you lack patience or not (wonder why you post here if you possess those attributes), anything sold by MS to OEMs is "Official", and in this context does not mean qualifying as I ask simply ask you what "Official" was (too bad you cannot answer the question). Did I split your last hair Mikey? "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Tom It means whatever you want it to mean.. I am not in the mood to split hairs with anybody right about now.. perhaps you might want to ask the OP directly as to whether she understood what point I was making.. whatever makes you happy.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... But, those are "official" versions right (as long as they come with the certifiable documentation, e.g. COA label, etc)? But I guess it needed to be pointed out that "qualifying" media is what she needs. "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... An OEM recovery CD maybe?.. as opposed to an OEM CD bought with a piece of hardware or retail version? -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... An OEM version is not official? Please elaborate, as I thought any legally purchased versions of Windows are "official". "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Lynne It is not easy to see what you hope to gain by doing this, other than the fact that you will have an official Windows CD.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Lynne" wrote in message news:LA41e.2537$Mt5.2186@fed1read01... I have a Compaq Presario, with Win XP home, OEM preinstalled. Now that the 1 year warranty is finally up, I want to install the retail version of XP Home and get rid of the presinstalled version. My question, posed to Compaq tech support, was whether I can install the upgrade, not full, retail version of XP Home over the existing OEM version that came preinstalled on the computer. Compaq says NO, that I must purchase the full version of XP Home. Is this correct? And, if it is NOT correct, is there some place I can get step-by-step instructions on how to install the upgrade version? Thanks. Lynne Bottom line Tom, you didn't want to accept that you WERE actually splitting hairs and Mike didn't think it was necessary for what ever reason [he does have a real life BTW] to look at both sides of the split. Mike explained what he meant. So instead of accepting that both of you were actually in agreement but just stating it differently you chose to insult Mike and make a big deal out of nothing. Then you escalate it until it becomes a personal vendetta. This a pattern you use and is not necessary or productive to peer support newsgroups. Tom feedback is good from all sides of the equation, but try to keep it productive instead of confrontational. Think, would I say this the same way face to face? -- Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP http://www.michaelstevenstech.com For a better newsgroup experience. Setup a newsreader. http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/ou...snewreader.htm |
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: but try to keep it productive instead of confrontational. What a unique idea! But wouldn't that destroy the Usenet we've all come to know and love over the years? G |
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XS11E respectfully replied ;-) "Michael Stevens" wrote in : but try to keep it productive instead of confrontational. What a unique idea! But wouldn't that destroy the Usenet we've all come to know and love over the years? G Of course it would, but for these particular newsgroups, it would not make a difference because of the legitimate volume of posts that need real replies with real help. When posts become a piXXing match, nobody wins or benefits. Tom has a pattern of nitpicking a reply and escalating the nitpicking to the ridiculous. It is not necessary to deride a person to make a point. -- Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP http://www.michaelstevenstech.com For a better newsgroup experience. Setup a newsreader. http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/ou...snewreader.htm |
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