Easy way to know if a UseNet group is moderated?

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On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 06:08:39 +0000 (UTC), John Doe
always.look message.header wrote:

Paul nospam needed.com wrote in news:m8fsrg$d6g$1 dont-email.me:

VanguardLH wrote:

Requires someone to volunteer their time to authenticate all the
submissions. Does that sound like a job you would like to do and for
free and at all times throughout the day?

That's why some moderated groups are robo-modded.
Software called STUMP is used. This reduces the workload.
And the moderator could be a team of people, in different time zones.
I agree though, that being a mod wouldn't be a lot of fun. Even with
help.

Easy solution... Let the original poster moderate the discussion.

Works on YouTube. If only they had UseNet threading.

And to be even greater, let the moderation be hierarchical. Anybody can
refuse or allow a direct reply. Only original posts would be moderated by
the group moderator, or not at all. After the original post, the moderator
is the person you reply to. How much control you have just depends on how
many people reply in the thread after your post. Everybody would have
control over their own branch, the ability to delete everything after their
post. Simple and extremely efficient.

[crossposting removed]

That would pretty much destroy Usenet as we know it.


For every problem, there is a solution that is simple, elegant, and wrong.

H. L. Mencken


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On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 17:01:13 +0000 (UTC), John Doe
wrote:

A regular troll that naturally doesn't provide any explanation with its
judgment...

[crossposting removed]

Why do you keep adding random newsgroups to your posts? Just standard troll
behavior?


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On Tue, 6 Jan 2015, John Doe wrote:

Paul wrote in :

VanguardLH wrote:

Requires someone to volunteer their time to authenticate all the
submissions. Does that sound like a job you would like to do and for
free and at all times throughout the day?

That's why some moderated groups are robo-modded.
Software called STUMP is used. This reduces the workload.
And the moderator could be a team of people, in different time zones.
I agree though, that being a mod wouldn't be a lot of fun. Even with
help.

Easy solution... Let the original poster moderate the discussion.

Works on YouTube. If only they had UseNet threading.

And to be even greater, let the moderation be hierarchical. Anybody can
refuse or allow a direct reply. Only original posts would be moderated by
the group moderator, or not at all. After the original post, the moderator
is the person you reply to. How much control you have just depends on how
many people reply in the thread after your post. Everybody would have
control over their own branch, the ability to delete everything after their
post. Simple and extremely efficient.

That's nonsense.

Now that anyone can post, instead of raising people up to a certain level,
the masses have lowered the internet down. Just because someone says
something doesn't make it right. So if the original poster can turn
remove comments, then they can clear out any challenge. But since they
have spewed the original comment out there, they aren't fit to judge any
challenges to what they've said.

On Usenet, everyone is equal. Just because someone starts a thread
doesn't mean they are dominant.

But in the current internet, it's about "my space". So that blogger or
facebook page owner or whatever, they in effect set themselves up as
authority, since it's their space. I've seen lots of blog postings where
the poster hasn't grasped what's going on, or has missed bits of history,
yet they are perceived as 'the expert" because they own the blog. Bad
information shouldn't be allowed to have high travel, yet if nobody can
comment, then the bad information gets the travel.

I've been in too many situations where I'm supposed to be secondary to the
blogger, in the form of the comments can only be a relatively few words.
That also keeps the rest of the world secondary to the blogger, yet
sometimes one needs more words to put the blogger's post in perspective.

The last one to be able to "moderate" is the one who would lose by
comments challenging what they have said.

Michael

A regular troll that naturally has no justification for its
disagreement...

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On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 17:01:13 +0000 (UTC), John Doe
always.look message.header wrote:

A regular troll that naturally doesn't provide any explanation with its
judgment...

[crossposting removed]

Why do you keep adding random newsgroups to your posts? Just standard troll
behavior?


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Michael Black wrote:

John Doe wrote:
Paul wrote in :
VanguardLH wrote:

Does that sound like a job you would like to do and for free and at
all times throughout the day?

That's why some moderated groups are robo-modded. Software called
STUMP is used. This reduces the workload. And the moderator could be
a team of people, in different time zones. I agree though, that
being a mod wouldn't be a lot of fun. Even with help.

Easy solution... Let the prior poster choose to allow or disallow the
reply discussion.

Works on YouTube. If only they had UseNet threading.

And to be even greater, let the moderation be hierarchical. Anybody
can refuse or allow a direct reply. Only original posts would be
moderated by the group moderator, or not at all. After the original
post, the moderator is the person you reply to. How much control you
have just depends on how many people reply in the thread after your
post. Everybody would have control over their own branch, the ability
to delete everything after their post. Simple and extremely
efficient.

That's brilliant!

I guess so, since nobody has presented any logical counterargument.
A limited version is working great on the biggest video website
on the Internet. Having it extended to the hierarchical threading
in UseNet would be even better.

Just because someone says something doesn't make it right. So if the
original poster can turn remove comments, then they can clear out any
challenge.

But seriously... Anyone can create "a challenge" since anyone can post
original. Problem is for people who want to troll other people in their
space. Because obviously trolling is what goes on much of the time.

It would be the best of all worlds. It would give definition to UseNet.
For example, people who are efficient at providing factual information
would be much easier to read.

Anybody who thinks UseNet is dying should check out (alt.usage.English)...

There might be even better examples, but that's one extremely active group
I'm familiar with.

John Doe wrote:

Unrelated newsgroup alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt omitted in reply.

But seriously... Anyone can create "a challenge" since anyone can post
original. Problem is for people who want to troll other people in their
space. Because obviously trolling is what goes on much of the time.

It would be the best of all worlds. It would give definition to UseNet.
For example, people who are efficient at providing factual information
would be much easier to read.

So your solution is to have a thread smashed to only acceptable relies
by the OP (original poster) and everyone the OP doesn't like have to
start whole new and disconnected threads. Oh joy, let's get rid of
threading in Usenet, yup, like that's a good solution. Let's abandon
threading degrade to a chat room where every post is separate and you
get a confusing mass of interspersed articles for differing topics.

My idea has nothing to do with "getting rid of threading usenet".
I don't know what Mouthguard is talking about...

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John Doe wrote:

Unrelated newsgroup alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt omitted in reply.

But seriously... Anyone can create "a challenge" since anyone can post
original. Problem is for people who want to troll other people in their
space. Because obviously trolling is what goes on much of the time.

It would be the best of all worlds. It would give definition to UseNet.
For example, people who are efficient at providing factual information
would be much easier to read.

So your solution is to have a thread smashed to only acceptable relies
by the OP (original poster) and everyone the OP doesn't like have to
start whole new and disconnected threads. Oh joy, let's get rid of
threading in Usenet, yup, like that's a good solution. Let's abandon
threading degrade to a chat room where every post is separate and you
get a confusing mass of interspersed articles for differing topics.

On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 19:35:10 +0000 (UTC), John Doe
wrote:

Michael Black wrote:

John Doe wrote:
Paul wrote in :
VanguardLH wrote:

Does that sound like a job you would like to do and for free and at
all times throughout the day?

That's why some moderated groups are robo-modded. Software called
STUMP is used. This reduces the workload. And the moderator could be
a team of people, in different time zones. I agree though, that
being a mod wouldn't be a lot of fun. Even with help.

Easy solution... Let the prior poster choose to allow or disallow the
reply discussion.

Works on YouTube. If only they had UseNet threading.

And to be even greater, let the moderation be hierarchical. Anybody
can refuse or allow a direct reply. Only original posts would be
moderated by the group moderator, or not at all. After the original
post, the moderator is the person you reply to. How much control you
have just depends on how many people reply in the thread after your
post. Everybody would have control over their own branch, the ability
to delete everything after their post. Simple and extremely
efficient.

That's brilliant!

[stupid crossposting retained because I don't know where Michael Black
posted from]

I wonder how Michael feels about you changing "nonsense" (his word to
describe your ill-advised idea) to "brilliant" (your own assessment of your
harebrained idea).

I guess so, since nobody has presented any logical counterargument.

You've apparently censored your world to the point where anything you
disagree with is simply ignored.

A limited version is working great on the biggest video website
on the Internet. Having it extended to the hierarchical threading
in UseNet would be even better.

Except for two things:
1. It isn't working great on youtube. There are no discussions there.
2. Usenet isn't anything at all like youtube.

But seriously... Anyone can create "a challenge" since anyone can post
original. Problem is for people who want to troll other people in their
space. Because obviously trolling is what goes on much of the time.

I'll give you credit there. You're an expert at trolling.

It would be the best of all worlds. It would give definition to UseNet.
For example, people who are efficient at providing factual information
would be much easier to read.

Is that the main problem for you? You're having difficulty reading?
I think that can be fixed, but you have to want to.

"It isn't working great on youtube. There are no discussions there."

That ridiculous assertion is where I stopped reading the regular troll's
post this time. Obviously it's just clueless. There is very lively
discussion all over YouTube.

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On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 19:35:10 +0000 (UTC), John Doe
always.look message.header wrote:

Michael Black et472 ncf.ca wrote:

John Doe wrote:
Paul nospam needed.com wrote in news:m8fsrg$d6g$1 dont-email.me:
VanguardLH wrote:

Does that sound like a job you would like to do and for free and at
all times throughout the day?

That's why some moderated groups are robo-modded. Software called
STUMP is used. This reduces the workload. And the moderator could be
a team of people, in different time zones. I agree though, that
being a mod wouldn't be a lot of fun. Even with help.

Easy solution... Let the prior poster choose to allow or disallow the
reply discussion.

Works on YouTube. If only they had UseNet threading.

And to be even greater, let the moderation be hierarchical. Anybody
can refuse or allow a direct reply. Only original posts would be
moderated by the group moderator, or not at all. After the original
post, the moderator is the person you reply to. How much control you
have just depends on how many people reply in the thread after your
post. Everybody would have control over their own branch, the ability
to delete everything after their post. Simple and extremely
efficient.

That's brilliant!

[stupid crossposting retained because I don't know where Michael Black
posted from]

I wonder how Michael feels about you changing "nonsense" (his word to
describe your ill-advised idea) to "brilliant" (your own assessment of your
harebrained idea).

I guess so, since nobody has presented any logical counterargument.

You've apparently censored your world to the point where anything you
disagree with is simply ignored.

A limited version is working great on the biggest video website
on the Internet. Having it extended to the hierarchical threading
in UseNet would be even better.

Except for two things:
1. It isn't working great on youtube. There are no discussions there.
2. Usenet isn't anything at all like youtube.

But seriously... Anyone can create "a challenge" since anyone can post
original. Problem is for people who want to troll other people in their
space. Because obviously trolling is what goes on much of the time.

I'll give you credit there. You're an expert at trolling.

It would be the best of all worlds. It would give definition to UseNet.
For example, people who are efficient at providing factual information
would be much easier to read.

Is that the main problem for you? You're having difficulty reading?
I think that can be fixed, but you have to want to.

On 06/01/2015 22:33, John Doe wrote:
"It isn't working great on youtube. There are no discussions there."

That ridiculous assertion is where I stopped reading the regular troll's
post this time. Obviously it's just clueless. There is very lively
discussion all over YouTube.


But an idiot like you didn't know how to create a filters (like some of
us have done) so that you don't have to respond to trolls.

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This troll is so illiterate it posts HTML.
Reminds me of being a newbie on UseNet.
"Gunna change the world!"

But it did manage to change the follow-up groups...

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On 06/01/2015 22:33, John Doe wrote:
"It isn't working great on youtube. There are no discussions there."

That ridiculous assertion is where I stopped reading the regular troll's
post this time. Obviously it's just clueless. There is very lively
discussion all over YouTube.


But an idiot like you didn't know how to create a filters (like some of
us have done) so that you don't have to respond to trolls.

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After serious thinking Paul wrote :
VanguardLH wrote:


I see about 130+ moderated newsgroups from the Albasani NNTP server.
They don't carry all groups so someone, say, using Giganews might count
more.

Requires someone to volunteer their time to authenticate all the
submissions. Does that sound like a job you would like to do and for free
and at all times
throughout the day?

That's why some moderated groups are robo-modded.

Software called STUMP is used. This reduces the workload.

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Newsgroups: alt.religion.wicca.moderated

And the moderator could be a team of people, in different
time zones.

I agree though, that being a mod wouldn't be a lot of fun.
Even with help.

Paul

i same thing back my old fidonet days and found out soon it not
something you do to make friends.

Ed P.

On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 22:33:14 +0000 (UTC), John Doe
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"It isn't working great on youtube. There are no discussions there."

That ridiculous assertion is where I stopped reading the regular troll's
post this time. Obviously it's just clueless. There is very lively
discussion all over YouTube.

[childish crossposting removed]

If you think youtube hosts discussions, it might just be that you don't know
what a discussion is. Hint, it's not someone leaving a comment about a video
they just watched.

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Now the troll wants to get into the semantics of "discussion".

Again... In fact the discussion on YouTube is very lively.
Anybody who says that the discussion on YouTube is simply leaving a
comment on a video is either lying or is clueless.

Knowing this troll, I would vote for clueless...

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On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 22:33:14 +0000 (UTC), John Doe
always.look message.header wrote:

"It isn't working great on youtube. There are no discussions there."

That ridiculous assertion is where I stopped reading the regular troll's
post this time. Obviously it's just clueless. There is very lively
discussion all over YouTube.

[childish crossposting removed]

If you think youtube hosts discussions, it might just be that you don't know
what a discussion is. Hint, it's not someone leaving a comment about a video
they just watched.

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