Windows 10: some questions please

Hi,
I'm using Windows 7 with great satisfaction but I understand that I
will have to switch to Windows 10 but with great pain.
Precisely for this reason I would like to ask some questions on
Windows 10:

1) Is Window 10 better than Windows 8? I mean about the
graphics and easiness of use. For example, I hate the way you turn off
Windows 8.

2) Will a bit 'outdated programs have problems to work? With
Windows 7 I never had a problem.

3) Can put similar graphical interface of Windows 7?

4) Is there difficulty using some cracks for some program? With
Window 7 I never had any problems.

Thanks for your advice.

wrote:

Hi,
I'm using Windows 7 with great satisfaction but I understand that I
will have to switch to Windows 10 but with great pain.
Precisely for this reason I would like to ask some questions on
Windows 10:

1) Is Window 10 better than Windows 8? I mean about the
graphics and easiness of use. For example, I hate the way you turn off
Windows 8.

2) Will a bit 'outdated programs have problems to work? With
Windows 7 I never had a problem.

3) Can put similar graphical interface of Windows 7?

4) Is there difficulty using some cracks for some program? With
Window 7 I never had any problems.

Thanks for your advice.

I just upgraded to win 10 and yes i am happy. If your smart download win 10
and install it inside virtualbox. Once installed sign up to the windows
insider program. not using your primary email address, but an email address
you will never really use.

And play around with it. i am part of the insider program. And i liked what
is coming. So i made the jump from win 8.1. I am a fan of the metro
interface.

my friend hated win 8 he made the jump to win 10 and made his start menu
function like the win 7 menu with out any third party software.

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On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 10:47:04 +0200, wrote:

Hi,
I'm using Windows 7 with great satisfaction but I understand that I
will have to switch to Windows 10 but with great pain.
Precisely for this reason I would like to ask some questions on
Windows 10:

1) Is Window 10 better than Windows 8? I mean about the
graphics and easiness of use. For example, I hate the way you turn off
Windows 8.

2) Will a bit 'outdated programs have problems to work? With
Windows 7 I never had a problem.

3) Can put similar graphical interface of Windows 7?

4) Is there difficulty using some cracks for some program? With
Window 7 I never had any problems.

Thanks for your advice.

DON'T DO IT !

Stay with 7 ...

| I'm using Windows 7 with great satisfaction but I understand that I
| will have to switch to Windows 10 but with great pain.

You won't "have to", but you will need to execise
some caution if you want to avoid being switched
by Microsoft, via Windows Update.

| 2) Will a bit 'outdated programs have problems to work? With
| Windows 7 I never had a problem.
|
Most software that works on Win7 should work on
Win10. Microsoft puts a lot of work into backward
compatibility because their business customers
depend on that.
However, hardware is a different story. There may
not be drivers for some older hardware. It's not typical
for companies to "backport" drivers. In some cases
Windows may have a generic driver to use, which
may or may not work. (Just as USB support was
provided by MS for Win95. The only thing it was
missing was functionality.

One option, if you have experience with backup,
would be to make a disk image of your current
Win7 install, then allow Win10 to install. You could
also clone the hard disk to do the same thing. Then
if you don't like Win10 you can go back. You might
even be able to dual boot in order to support something
like an old printer. But don't depend on being able
to dual boot. Microsoft adopts the attitude that they
own the computer. Recent versions of Windows can be
very aggressive about taking over booting options.

On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 08:54:55 -0400, "Mayayana"
wrote:

| I'm using Windows 7 with great satisfaction but I understand that I
| will have to switch to Windows 10 but with great pain.

You won't "have to", but you will need to execise
some caution if you want to avoid being switched
by Microsoft, via Windows Update.

| 2) Will a bit 'outdated programs have problems to work? With
| Windows 7 I never had a problem.
|
Most software that works on Win7 should work on
Win10. Microsoft puts a lot of work into backward
compatibility because their business customers
depend on that.
However, hardware is a different story. There may
not be drivers for some older hardware. It's not typical
for companies to "backport" drivers. In some cases
Windows may have a generic driver to use, which
may or may not work. (Just as USB support was
provided by MS for Win95. The only thing it was
missing was functionality.

One option, if you have experience with backup,
would be to make a disk image of your current
Win7 install, then allow Win10 to install. You could
also clone the hard disk to do the same thing. Then
if you don't like Win10 you can go back. You might
even be able to dual boot in order to support something
like an old printer. But don't depend on being able
to dual boot. Microsoft adopts the attitude that they
own the computer. Recent versions of Windows can be
very aggressive about taking over booting options.

Lot's of my great old programs, written in QB45 and later in
Visual Basic 3, won't run in 7. I use a virtual machine running XP for
these oldies but goodies.

| Lot's of my great old programs, written in QB45 and later in
| Visual Basic 3, won't run in 7. I use a virtual machine running XP for
| these oldies but goodies.
|

That's a different issue, but maybe I should
have clarified that: Most Win16 software will run
under Win32 and most Win32 software will run
under Win64, but Win16 will not run under Win64.
VB3 is 16-bit. Most (all?) Win10 computers
are Win64. As with Win7-64, none of the DOS
stuff or older 16-bit software like your VB3
programs will run.

So it's probably not a Win10 issue but rather
a 64-bit issue.

Another related issue is in-process software.
A process has its own memory space. So
16/32/64 bit cannot run in the same process.
They're treating data blocks differently.
That means that while most 32-bit software
will run on Win64, 32-bit shell extensions
like property pages, explorer bars, etc will not
run when using Explorer 64-bit because they're
DLLs that run in the Explorer process. Likewise
with ActiveX or BHOs running under IE, or
any 32-bit DLLs that one wants to use with
64-bit software. DLLs run in-process.

wrote:
Hi,
I'm using Windows 7 with great satisfaction but I understand that I
will have to switch to Windows 10 but with great pain.
Precisely for this reason I would like to ask some questions on
Windows 10:

1) Is Window 10 better than Windows 8? I mean about the
graphics and easiness of use. For example, I hate the way you turn off
Windows 8.

2) Will a bit 'outdated programs have problems to work? With
Windows 7 I never had a problem.

3) Can put similar graphical interface of Windows 7?

4) Is there difficulty using some cracks for some program? With
Window 7 I never had any problems.

Thanks for your advice.

Any upgrade, should be done under control. When you
want it to happen, and not when Microsoft wants it to happen.

To stop the GWX (notification in Task Bar), use this program.
The web page has extensive instructions on usage of the
control panel.

http://blog.ultimateoutsider.com/201...ly-remove.html

If you want to get a copy of the install media for Windows 10,
use MediaCreationTool downloaded from here. The media must
be used at least once, to do a Windows 10 installation
on the computer, to qualify for the "free upgrade" and
generate a license key (Digital Entitlement) on the
Microsoft license server. The last date for a "free upgrade",
is July 31, 2016. As long as you generate one Digital
Entitlement key, you can use the Windows 10 upgrade
after that date, or even Clean install it again if
needed. If you modify the computer hardware (change
the motherboard), the Digital Entitlement key becomes
invalid.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...d/windows10ISO

There is a table on this page. You can do an Upgrade install
from 32 bit to 32 bit, or 64 bit to 64 bit. An Upgrade install
preserves your programs - but Microsoft can remove programs
during the install, that are not compatible.

You can do a Clean install (must reinstall all programs) if
going from 32 bit OS to a 64 bit OS.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/wind...specifications

From Win7 To Win10
memory memory [DIMMs]
limit limit
-----------------------+------+-----------------+-------+
Windows 7 Starter Windows 10 Home 128GB
Windows 7 Home Basic 8GB Windows 10 Home 128GB
Windows 7 Home Premium 16GB Windows 10 Home 128GB

Windows 7 Professional 192GB Windows 10 Pro 2048GB
Windows 7 Ultimate 192GB Windows 10 Pro 2048GB

Windows 8.1 128GB Windows 10 Home 128GB
Windows 8.1 Pro 512GB Windows 10 Pro 2048GB

The "weakest" OS is Windows 7 Home Premium, with the 16GB limitation.
My new computer has more than 16GB, so I had to buy Windows 7 Professional
for it, to be able to use all the RAM.

*******

As you are a professional user, and the computer in question
is a production machine, you don't "mess around" with production
systems. Windows 7 is supported via Windows Update until the
year 2020, so if Windows 10 does not work, you have four
years to figure it out. You have some expensive hardware
in the box (the Matrox accelerator), and you cannot expect
every bit of the machine to have software upgrades for
Windows 10 usage.

What you can try, is cloning the Windows 7 drive, to a separate
hard drive, and apply Windows 10 to it.

Win7 (production drive) --- clone --- Win7b drive
(Remove the Win7 production drive from the computer)

Win7b (experimental drive) --- Win10 --- Makes a new Win10
Upgrade testing hard drive

By using a separate hard drive, you can then determine which
programs are compatible or not compatible. I use separate
hard drives for a number of OSes. My new computer ("Test Machine") has

Win7 Pro x64
Win8.1 Pro x64
Win10 Pro x64 Insider edition (dual boot)

Each drive is in a separate tray, for easy insertion or
removal from the computer.

*******

A free software such as this, can back up your disks to an
external disk, for safe keeping. Macrium Reflect Free. The
software makes a boot CD, in case the OS drive needs to be
restored after a virus attack. The download button is
green in color, and in the upper right hand corner of
this web page.

http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx

Make sure you have at least one backup of the
Win7 drive, before doing anything else. That's
in case you slip up, and GWX or Windows Update
installs Windows 10 onto your Windows 7 system
before you want it.

Win7 (production drive) --- backup --- external drive holding .mrimg file

The GWX panel here, can stop the Win10 upgrade,
but Microsoft is full of tricks, and the backup
operation is intended as "life insurance".

http://blog.ultimateoutsider.com/201...ly-remove.html

*******

Summary - test Windows 10 using a separate hard drive
- armor the machine so your production Window 7
video editing suite is not damaged by Microsoft
and their campaign to install Windows 10 when
it is the least convenient for you.

Good luck, Fogar (my assumption, based on the email address)

HTH,
Paul

On 10/06/2016 11:54, Darklight wrote:
I just upgraded to win 10 and yes i am happy. If your smart download win 10
and install it inside virtualbox. Once installed sign up to the windows
insider program. not using your primary email address, but an email address
you will never really use.

And play around with it. i am part of the insider program. And i liked what
is coming. So i made the jump from win 8.1. I am a fan of the metro
interface.

my friend hated win 8 he made the jump to win 10 and made his start menu
function like the win 7 menu with out any third party software.




Wish we had more sensible people like you here giving first hand
experience knowledge rather than some idiots who rely on articles
written by nutters paid for by other nutters to write articles critical
of Microsoft products.



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On 10/06/2016 09:47, wrote:
Hi,
I'm using Windows 7 with great satisfaction but I understand that I
will have to switch to Windows 10 but with great pain.
Precisely for this reason I would like to ask some questions on
Windows 10:

1) Is Window 10 better than Windows 8? I mean about the
graphics and easiness of use. For example, I hate the way you turn off
Windows 8.

2) Will a bit 'outdated programs have problems to work? With
Windows 7 I never had a problem.

3) Can put similar graphical interface of Windows 7?

4) Is there difficulty using some cracks for some program? With
Window 7 I never had any problems.

Thanks for your advice.

Frankly, I would ignore all the nutters who are trying to dissuade you
from trying Windows 10.

I have installed Windows 10 on all my machines and I find Win10 no
different from XP, Win7, or Win8.1. My latest acquisition was an i7
processor barebone and I have installed Wind10 on it. I am
fantastically delighted with it.

i7 Machine http://s33.postimg.org/er0wkujun/Capture.png

I would perform a clean install of Windows 10 so that you can isolate
any driver conflicts between Windows 7 and Windows 10. Also, Microsoft
Generic drivers are more reliable than what you might already have
because Microsoft has access to some 300 Million Machines and it has
gone out of its way to create generic drivers for some of them.



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On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 08:35:42 -0400, SteveGG
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On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 10:47:04 +0200, wrote:

Hi,
I'm using Windows 7 with great satisfaction but I understand that I
will have to switch to Windows 10 but with great pain.

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DON'T DO IT !

Stay with 7 ...

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On 6/10/2016 4:47 AM, wrote:
Hi,
I'm using Windows 7 with great satisfaction but I understand that I
will have to switch to Windows 10 but with great pain.
Precisely for this reason I would like to ask some questions on
Windows 10:

1) Is Window 10 better than Windows 8? I mean about the
graphics and easiness of use. For example, I hate the way you turn off
Windows 8.

2) Will a bit 'outdated programs have problems to work? With
Windows 7 I never had a problem.

3) Can put similar graphical interface of Windows 7?

4) Is there difficulty using some cracks for some program? With
Window 7 I never had any problems.

Thanks for your advice.

If you are like me and want a computer to use to do your job and don't
twiddle with the esoteric stuff in the OS, go a head and up grade. When
you upgrade you will not have to worry about the OS for years. If you
don't, then in 4 to 5 years you will be looking at updating again
because MS will be talking about stopping support for Windows 7. All so
the large software vendors will slowly stop supporting Windows 7 in
their new release. Their new releases will be designed to Windows 10 and
run on Windows 7. So it comes down to, now or later. If you do it now
you will have the advantage of working with the most current OS, and not
have to worry about compatibility if you install any thing new

I have run Windows 10 on my tablet since Windows 10 was released. Yes
there is a difference in the way you do some things but not that much
different than you do in Windows 7. ie to shut down Windows 7 you left
click the icon at the left end of the toolbar and click shut down. In
windows 10 you right click the icon on the left end of the tool bar and
click Shutdown. A month or so ago I updated my laptop, and plan to do
my desktop soon. (Scheduling issue, not OS problems.)

You can make the desktop look the same as in Windows 7, and all of your
Windows 7 32 bit programs will run in Windows 10. My wife uses Windows
10 and if she can do it any one can. If you like you can see how you
like the other interface. Personally I like it better than the start
menu in XP, and I love the right click jumplist on the programs on the
desktop toolbar.

During the install you will be asked to set preferences. Do not allow
the OS to phone home from any application. (There are a couple of
screens to check) And as you see things mentioned in newsgroups or
forums check your system and adjust the settings mentioned. If for a
particular application that needs to phone home you can always change
it. I would recommend letting your virus programs phone home, so they
can be kept up to date.

Over all you will continue doing your job and not realized you have changed.

On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 16:43:24 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

If you are like me and want a computer to use to do your job and don't
twiddle with the esoteric stuff in the OS, go a head and up grade.

Or, if you're like me and you want your computer to be available when you
need it, avoid the upgrade.

When you upgrade you will not have to worry about the OS for years.

And if you're running at least Win 7, you also won't have to worry about the
OS for years.

If you
don't, then in 4 to 5 years you will be looking at updating again
because MS will be talking about stopping support for Windows 7.

"4 to 5 years" is an awfully long time in the PC world. Will you be using
the same hardware by then? Even if you jump the gun and upgrade now, will
you be using the same OS by then? No one knows.

All so
the large software vendors will slowly stop supporting Windows 7 in
their new release. Their new releases will be designed to Windows 10 and
run on Windows 7.

Agreed, so with everything able to run on Win 7 and later, there's no
incentive to upgrade now.

So it comes down to, now or later.

So far, later wins, hands down.

If you do it now
you will have the advantage of working with the most current OS,

I wouldn't call that an advantage.

and not
have to worry about compatibility if you install any thing new

If you run at least Win 7, you also don't have to worry about compatibility.
In fact, Win 7 is arguably more compatible right now than 10 is.

On 06/10/2016 08:54 AM, Mayayana wrote:


One option, if you have experience with backup,
would be to make a disk image of your current
Win7 install, then allow Win10 to install. You could
also clone the hard disk to do the same thing. Then
if you don't like Win10 you can go back. You might
even be able to dual boot in order to support something
like an old printer. But don't depend on being able
to dual boot. Microsoft adopts the attitude that they
own the computer. Recent versions of Windows can be
very aggressive about taking over booting options.


I dual boot windows 10 and XP. My 35mm slide scanner only works on XP.
No further drivers.