Beware of SP2!

I'm not an MVP but I can understand why they might be upset as very few
people had any of the problems mentioned on that website as you'll see
if you follow the newsgroups for SP2 RC1.

Some have reported compatibility problems with Symantec, Norton, McAfee
and ZoneAlarm products but I've learned never to install anything from
these companies because of compatibility problems so, like most using
SP2 RC2, I've had no problems at all.


What happen is people forgot to turn off their firewall & anti-virus
program before installing sp2.

You can keep them on. While you are downloading sp2.
When it done. It will start installing. When the eula come up.
Don’t hit ok yet. Disconnect or unplug your internet connection.
Now disable your firewall & virus programs
(You might need to use services.msc to turn off the antivirus and
firewall off-No need to set it to disable-keep it on automatic.)

Now you may click ok to install it.

I have an amd machine and sp rc2 beta is still working fine.

Uninstall service pack2 also uninstall sp1. That is strange.


Greg R

I don't plan on installing it at all. I don't generally recommend that for
everyone. But it just doesn't do much for me. I would have to disable pretty
much all of the "features" included in it.
I do not use auto updates and never will.
I do not use Internet Explorer.
I do not use Outlook Express.
I do not use XP's firewall.
I use my own popup blocker.
Probably a few other things I can't think of at the moment as well.

Testy

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"Testy" wrote
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Well,actually the "fixing" is up to the developers to make their
software
compliant with XP2.

Testy

I think I'll watch from the sidelines for awhile before downloading it.

Alias

"Alias" wrote

"Testy" wrote

MS is well aware of the problems with SP2 as evidenced by my
attendance
at
their
deployment for Developers seminar why should anyone try to cover it
up?

Testy

Are they planning to fix the problems before releasing it?

Alias

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"Testy" wrote in
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Get prepared to be blasted by the MVP's. I posted similar
warnings after attending a TechNet presentation on Deployment
of
SP2 for developers and was blasted by several MVP's.

I'm not an MVP but I can understand why they might be upset as
very few people had any of the problems mentioned on that
website
as you'll see if you follow the newsgroups for SP2 RC1.

Errr..... senior moment, I meant RC2.



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There are only 12 SP 2 newsgroups take you pick or take them all.

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http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


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"XS11E" wrote
"Alias" wrote

I think I'll watch from the sidelines for awhile before
downloading it.

You might want to read the SP2 newsgroups and see if there are any
problems that apply to your particular setup.

Can you suggest a news group?

If not, think about trying it, unlike SP2 RC1, the RC2 version
seems to
uninstall properly if you need to do so.

OK.

Alias

XS11E wrote:

Some have reported compatibility problems with Symantec, Norton, McAfee
and ZoneAlarm products but I've learned never to install anything from
these companies because of compatibility problems so, like most using
SP2 RC2, I've had no problems at all.

Hmmm, that seems to be the top four list of bloatware/invasive apps

How come AOL isn't on that list?

TUP:

I agree Win XP SP2 RC2 has been great as my main computer:

Programs/features w/o problems:
AcroBat v6.0.1
Adware v6
Aida32 v3.90
AVG v6 free
BlackIce v3.6 ccb
Bookshelf 96/97
CWShredder v1.59.1
Ethereal v.10.0
FireFox v0.9.2
HD_Speed
HijackThis v1.98.0
HP Photosmart 7350 ink jet printer & HP s/w
ICF2 (aka Windows Firewall)
Incoming Connections (VPN server)
IP Subnet Calculator (Net3 Group)
MBSA v1.2
MSIE
NAV 2003
NetPerSec v1.1
Netstumbler v.4.0
NIS 2003
Office 2000
Outlook Express
PopUpCop v2.0.3.20
Qfecheck
QuickTime v6.5.1
SAVCE v8.1
Spybot v1.3
Streets & Trips 2002
SuperScan
Syslog (thru ICF2)
TCPView
WiFi (802.11b)
Wireless Zero Configuration
WS_FTP98 LE
ZA free v 3.1.395

Also works fine with:
Win2k3S domain
SBS2k3 domain
ISA

Can you tell me one? I just tried to find one using "SP2" as a search term
and nothing came up.

Thanks

Alias

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote

There are only 12 SP 2 newsgroups take you pick or take them all.

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http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Alias" wrote in message
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"XS11E" wrote
"Alias" wrote

I think I'll watch from the sidelines for awhile before
downloading it.

You might want to read the SP2 newsgroups and see if there are any
problems that apply to your particular setup.

Can you suggest a news group?

If not, think about trying it, unlike SP2 RC1, the RC2 version
seems to
uninstall properly if you need to do so.

OK.

Alias

For starters:
http://communities.microsoft.com/new...xpsp2&slcid=us


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All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm


"Alias" wrote in message
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Can you tell me one? I just tried to find one using "SP2" as a search term
and nothing came up.

Thanks

Alias

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote

There are only 12 SP 2 newsgroups take you pick or take them all.

--
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http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Alias" wrote in message
...

"XS11E" wrote
"Alias" wrote

I think I'll watch from the sidelines for awhile before
downloading it.

You might want to read the SP2 newsgroups and see if there are any
problems that apply to your particular setup.

Can you suggest a news group?

If not, think about trying it, unlike SP2 RC1, the RC2 version
seems to
uninstall properly if you need to do so.

OK.

Alias

X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de Cu118jNXLsiofsD2au/e7ARFEzNRfk77kg8lg9mMp6XAaFHxOG
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441
Xref: newsfeed-west.nntpserver.com microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics:236924 microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:1203244

None of those private groups are on my server.

Alias

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For starters:
http://communities.microsoft.com/new...xpsp2&slcid=us


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Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm


"Alias" wrote in message
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Can you tell me one? I just tried to find one using "SP2" as a search
term
and nothing came up.

Thanks

Alias

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote

There are only 12 SP 2 newsgroups take you pick or take them all.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Alias" wrote in message
...

"XS11E" wrote
"Alias" wrote

I think I'll watch from the sidelines for awhile before
downloading it.

You might want to read the SP2 newsgroups and see if there are any
problems that apply to your particular setup.

Can you suggest a news group?

If not, think about trying it, unlike SP2 RC1, the RC2 version
seems to
uninstall properly if you need to do so.

OK.

Alias

"Alias" wrote in
:


"XS11E" wrote
"Alias" wrote

I think I'll watch from the sidelines for awhile before
downloading it.

You might want to read the SP2 newsgroups and see if there are
any problems that apply to your particular setup.

Can you suggest a news group?

Several. They are all private so you'll have to follow instructions to
set up OE or you can read them online.

http://communities.microsoft.com/new...cp=xpsp2&slcid
=us

You must scroll down the upper right of the page to find this:

|Since these are private newsgroups, your server will require you to
|logon using the following information:
|
|Server: privatenews.microsoft.com
|Account name: privatenews\sp2user
|Password: password
|Note that the password is case-sensitive.

Plato |@|.| wrote in :

XS11E wrote:

Some have reported compatibility problems with Symantec, Norton,
McAfee and ZoneAlarm products but I've learned never to install
anything from these companies because of compatibility problems
so, like most using SP2 RC2, I've had no problems at all.

Hmmm, that seems to be the top four list of bloatware/invasive
apps

How come AOL isn't on that list?

Ooops, I forgot! Really, AOL isn't on the list because of a senior
moment, I intended it to be there, honest I did.

BTW, we're not talking about just bloatware/invasive apps, we're
talking about apps that can/will crash your computer depending on the
other software installed. The applications I mentioned have all had
some very severe problems with compatibility with other software
problems, a good example is some years back a friend tried to install a
new version of (sorry!) AOL and forgot to disable McAfee. McAfee
decided the new AOL files were viruses and proceeded to "disinfect"
them. He wound up with a computer that wouldn't boot as McAfee had
deleted/disinfected/bollexed up most of the files in the C:\Windows
directory.

The fix was format, re-install, change ISPs and Virus programs.

OK, I realize the above was the result of his failing to follow
directions but how easy is it to forget to disable a virus scanner
during an install? I believe you shouldn't have to.

I use AVG and have never had to disable it during an install and I like
it that way!

BTW, one program I ran under Windows 2000 and really liked was Roxio Go
Back, it works and works well and I'd recommend it to those needing
such a program (it's much more complete then the XP system restore).
The GoBack software was bought by Symantec and is now Norton GoBack but
last I checked, they haven't changed it in any way so... if you want
such a program, get it NOW before Symantec "improves" it.

FWIW, this may not have any relation to any of the above but very early
in the Windows 95 Beta Testing (I wuz one of the testers) I learned the
VERY hard way not to run the above software, any of it from any of
them. Since then, I've run (in sequence) Win95, Win96sr2 Win98,
Win98SE, WinME, WinNT 4.0, Win2000 and Windows XP.

I've not had a crash since Windows 95 beta. None. Nada. Zippo.

Again, it may or may not be in any way related to the above but when
someone tells me their machine crashed, I always ask what software
they're running and they always tell me one of the above mentioned...

As always, YMMV.

This link will tell how to access the SP 2 newsgroups:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/xpsp2.htm

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Alias" wrote in message
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Can you tell me one? I just tried to find one using "SP2" as a
search term
and nothing came up.

Thanks

Alias

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote

There are only 12 SP 2 newsgroups take you pick or take them all.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Alias" wrote in message
...

"XS11E" wrote
"Alias" wrote

I think I'll watch from the sidelines for awhile before
downloading it.

You might want to read the SP2 newsgroups and see if there are
any
problems that apply to your particular setup.

Can you suggest a news group?

If not, think about trying it, unlike SP2 RC1, the RC2 version
seems to
uninstall properly if you need to do so.

OK.

Alias

Winserv doesn't appear to be an MS application, I couldn't find it on my =
machine or in a search of the KB and TechNet.

A web seach turned up:
WinServ=20
WinServ is a package containing Apache, MySQL, PHP, =
and Perl. an Eventual goal of the package is to include an SSL enabled =
build of Apache, using Mod_SSL. The packige is in the Alpha stage of =
development, so check back often for updates.
winserv.sourceforge.net - 93%
Result found by: MSN Web Search, HotBot, FAST Search =
(alltheweb.com), AltaVista, Yahoo!, Lycos
=20
=20
=20
=20
=20
winserv.exe definition, relationships, removal=20
... Back to extension *.exe. Winserv.exe definition, =
relationships, removal. winserv.exe definition winserv.exe description: =
...
www.2-spyware.com/file-winserv-exe.html - 92%
Result found by: FAST Search (alltheweb.com), =
AltaVista, Yahoo!, AOL Search, Netscape Netcenter
=20
=20
=20
=20
=20
WinServ=20
Wissensintensive Dienstleistungen zur Integration. von =
Kunden in Innovationsprozesse. search. Projekt. Forschung. Begriffe. =
Ver=F6ffentlichungen. Kontakt. Das gesamte WINserv Team bedankt sich bei =
allen Beteiligten f=FCr das gro=DFe Interesse
www.win-serv.de - 91%
Result found by: MSN Web Search, HotBot, FAST Search =
(alltheweb.com), AltaVista, AOL Search, Lycos, Netscape Netcenter
=20
=20
=20
=20
=20
Winserv:download=20
Use one of the following links to download winserv =
0.1: WinServe 0.1 (http) winserv 0.1 (ftp) [ 17.0mb download] :
winserv.sourceforge.net/download.php - 88%
Result found by: MSN Web Search, HotBot, FAST Search =
(alltheweb.com), AltaVista, Yahoo!, AOL Search, Lycos, Netscape =
Netcenter
=20
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Servicesystem - WS Softwa Winserv=20
Servicesystem, WS Software, the company behind Winserv =
Service Management System. System design, programming, web-systems. ... =
Produkter | WinServ. WinServ Online. WinServ s=E4ljst=F6d. WinServ =
verktyg. WinServ Databaser ... 2004-06-09 ] Kaffekompaniet install
www.wssoftware.se - 84%
Result found by: FAST Search (alltheweb.com), =
AltaVista
=20
=20
=20
=20
=20
HotScripts.com :: PHP :: Installation Kits :: WinServ=20
WinServ - Easily setup your own webserver in minutes. =
.... PHP : Software and Servers : Installation Kits. WinServ. Hits: 3487. =
Visit WinServ's Website. Write a Review! ...
www.hotscripts.com/Detailed/19338.html - 77%
Result found by: MSN Web Search, HotBot, FAST Search =
(alltheweb.com), AltaVista, Yahoo!, Lycos
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Just my 2=A2 worth
Jeff


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Jeff
__________in response to__________
"Kenny" wrote in message =
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"XS11E" wrote
"Alias" wrote

I think I'll watch from the sidelines for awhile before
downloading it.


I've been using SP2 Candidate 2 for about 10 days, now, and
everything is working better than before.

We'll see..........................

MS is well aware of the problems with SP2 as evidenced by my attendance at
their
deployment for Developers seminar why should anyone try to cover it up?

Testy

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"Testy" wrote in
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Get prepared to be blasted by the MVP's. I posted similar
warnings after attending a TechNet presentation on Deployment of
SP2 for developers and was blasted by several MVP's.

I'm not an MVP but I can understand why they might be upset as
very few people had any of the problems mentioned on that website
as you'll see if you follow the newsgroups for SP2 RC1.

Errr..... senior moment, I meant RC2.



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Get prepared to be blasted by the MVP's. I posted similar warnings after
attending a TechNet presentation on Deployment of SP2 for developers and was
blasted by several MVP's.

Testy

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