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WinXP SP3 can't read 4GB SD card in multicard reader
Gail_07 wrote:
I'm having the exact same problem and don't think it's related to the 4 Gig SD card, as much as it is to the number of photos on the card. I've successfully uploaded videos and movies from the exact same card, but in small quantities (seldom more than 80 pics @ 12 mp each) Just home from vacation and am unable to upload 1,000 pics @ 5 mp each from the same card that worked before I don't think the problem is caused by XP. I have XP SP3 on this PC, and I've read several hundred pix from my 4GB card. (In fact, ISTR that I filled the card with ~1100 .JPGs and then read it, as a test, when I first got that 4GB card.) -- Cheers, Bob |
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WinXP SP3 can't read 4GB SD card in multicard reader
Gail_07 wrote:
I'm having the exact same problem and don't think it's related to the 4 Gig SD card, as much as it is to the number of photos on the card. I've successfully uploaded videos and movies from the exact same card, but in small quantities (seldom more than 80 pics @ 12 mp each) Just home from vacation and am unable to upload 1,000 pics @ 5 mp each from the same card that worked before I don't think the problem is caused by XP. I have XP SP3 on this PC, and I've read several hundred pix from my 4GB card. (In fact, ISTR that I filled the card with ~1100 .JPGs and then read it, as a test, when I first got that 4GB card.) -- Cheers, Bob |
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WinXP SP3 can't read 4GB SD card in multicard reader
On Oct 16, 11:30*pm, Bob Willard
wrote: Gail_07 wrote: I'm having the exact same problem and don't think it's related to the 4 Gig SD card, as much as it is to the number of photos on the card. I've successfully uploaded videos and movies from the exact same card, but in small quantities (seldom more than 80 pics @ 12 mp each) Just home from vacation and am unable to upload 1,000 pics @ 5 mp each from the same card that worked before I don't think the problem is caused by XP. *I have XP SP3 on this PC, and I've read several hundred pix from my 4GB card. *(In fact, ISTR that I filled the card with ~1100 .JPGs and then read it, as a test, when I first got that 4GB card.) -- Cheers, Bob Besides having the XP with all updates, the card reader must support the newer SDHC format. Both the older SD (Secure Digital) and the SDHC (Secure Digital High Capacity) cards appear to be the exact same size, the internal media structures are not the same. |
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WinXP SP3 can't read 4GB SD card in multicard reader
On Oct 16, 11:30*pm, Bob Willard
wrote: Gail_07 wrote: I'm having the exact same problem and don't think it's related to the 4 Gig SD card, as much as it is to the number of photos on the card. I've successfully uploaded videos and movies from the exact same card, but in small quantities (seldom more than 80 pics @ 12 mp each) Just home from vacation and am unable to upload 1,000 pics @ 5 mp each from the same card that worked before I don't think the problem is caused by XP. *I have XP SP3 on this PC, and I've read several hundred pix from my 4GB card. *(In fact, ISTR that I filled the card with ~1100 .JPGs and then read it, as a test, when I first got that 4GB card.) -- Cheers, Bob Besides having the XP with all updates, the card reader must support the newer SDHC format. Both the older SD (Secure Digital) and the SDHC (Secure Digital High Capacity) cards appear to be the exact same size, the internal media structures are not the same. |
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WinXP SP3 can't read 4GB SD card in multicard reader
Hi, I have the same problem (a multi-card reader that won't access 4Gb+ cards) but got round the problem by buying a cheap USB SDHC reader that does work if plugged into the multi-reader USB slot.
On Tuesday, October 21, 2008 3:08 PM Orrie wrote: Hi, I am trying to connect a 4GB SD (Hewlett Packard brand) in a multi-card reader to a USB port on my Win XP SP3 computer. The computer doesn't recognize either the SD, nor any of the "drives" usually displayed for this multi-card reader. In fact, the computer would not start properly with the card reader/4 GB card connected. I believe the computer has USB 1 ports, and the card reader is certified for USB2, and has worked fine with xD, SD and CF cards of 2 GB and smaller. Everything works fine if I insert a 2GB card in the same slot of card reader. Reading past messages about this problem, I saw that it was supposed to solved with SP3. Is there anything else I am supposed to do to get Win XP SP3 to recognize a 4 GB card, such as install driver or new dll, or change a BIOS setting? Or is it necessary to buy a new card reader that may have updated specs? Thank you. Orrie On Tuesday, October 21, 2008 3:26 PM Malke wrote: Orrie wrote: 1. The First Question Of Troubleshooting: If the problem is new, what changed between the time things worked and the time they didn't? 2. Do you have Acronis True Image Home installed? Apparently there is an issue with USB card readers not being seen after the latest Windows Updates. The solution is to get and install the latest build of True Image from Acronis' website. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ On Tuesday, October 21, 2008 4:07 PM Paul wrote: Orrie wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_digital "The format has proven to be very popular. However, a change in the format, while allowing capacities greater than 4 GB (SDHC), has created compatibility issues with older devices which cannot read the new format. Since SDHC format cards have the same physical shape and form factor as the older format, this has caused considerable confusion for consumers. SDHC cards require an SDHC capable device firmware, generally not found with older devices." HTH, Paul On Tuesday, October 21, 2008 6:05 PM Big_Al wrote: Orrie wrote: I won't say it will work but look at this. I bought a 4 gig chip and it would not work on my built in reader. Found this fix (which is in SP3 by the way). http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923293 You have to request it from MS, but that's just a click of the link. On Tuesday, October 21, 2008 10:46 PM Orrie wrote: Hmm. The fact that only the 4 GB cards give me problems makes your point about their requiring an SDHC capatible reader seem worth pursuing. I'll have to try one. I've had my card reader for a few years, and I think it pre-dates the SDHC cards. At the time I bought it, I was shooting with an Olympus that used xD cards, and I think the largest xD card available was only either 512 MB or 1 GB. I don't know if SD cards were available with higher capacity, nor whether SDHC cards were available at all. Orrie "smlunatick" wrote in message ... On Oct 21, 8:26 pm, Malke wrote: 4GB SD card is in reality a SDHC card. Both the SD and SDHC cards are the exact same size but SDHC requires a SDHC card reader. SDHC cards "internal" structure is different than the SD cards. Does your card reader state that it can read SDHC cards? On Tuesday, October 21, 2008 10:52 PM Orrie wrote: Thanks, Al. I think I will try a new card reader first before installing an MS Hotfix. If a new card reader doesn't work, I'll try the Hotfix and/or Acronis True Image Home. I was afraid that if I shoot a bunch of pix on a 4 GB card, I wouldn't be able to get them uploaded into my computer. I'll be visiting my grandchildren soon, and having my pix of them stuck in a card would be a real pain. Orrie "Big_Al" wrote in message ... On Tuesday, October 21, 2008 11:00 PM Orrie wrote: I just discovered something odd when I tried to uploading a couple of test photos from the 4GB SD card directly from my Canon PowerShot S5 camera. In other words, bypassing the card reader The Canon software wouldn't recognize it the card, and started search for other sources from pix. However, when I tried to upload the test pix using Picasa 2, it worked without a hitch. Picasa recognized the camera, and didn't have any trouble uploading the images. Of course, there were only two images on the card. I'll have to try this again after I shoot a few hundred. Orrie "Orrie" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:15 AM M.I.5¾ wrote: "Orrie" wrote in message ... 4GB and larger SD cards are in a new architecture called HCSD (High Capacity Secure Data). They are not compatible with older card readers that were not built to access the new cards. The change in architecture was necessary because the original SD architecture had a 2GB limit. It has nothing to do with the USB media driver and SP3 is not at fault here. On Friday, October 24, 2008 7:13 AM smlunatick wrote: On Oct 21, 8:26=A0pm, Malke wrote: d of ze ? e 4GB SD card is in reality a SDHC card. Both the SD and SDHC cards are the exact same size but SDHC requires a SDHC card reader. SDHC cards "internal" structure is different than the SD cards. Does your card reader state that it can read SDHC cards? On Friday, October 24, 2008 7:13 AM smlunatick wrote: On Oct 22, 3:46=A0am, "Orrie" wrote: C xD r 1 rd r y ied t to g? cs? n age xD cards are up to 2GB and only Olympus is still using the format. My Fuji Film camera can use both SDHC and xD cards. With SDHC cards getting to 32GB, xD seems to be going way of the SmartMedia cards, extinct! On Friday, October 24, 2008 7:13 AM smlunatick wrote: t n ize e d of ze g? ? As with any software, check for updates. Also, check your local stores for SDHC sales. Some SDHC memory cards can be bundled with a compatible reader. On Monday, November 17, 2008 1:41 PM Andi wrote: Any luck yet? i AM having your same problem and have been browsing the net for a solution. Most of the sites say to download the patch for xp but since i have sp3 i already have the patch but my multireader is not reading 4gb SD HC card...Some peaople said it worked for them on the same dell 1505 computer with the patch but I cannot install the patch...what now? On Tuesday, November 18, 2008 8:14 PM smlunatick wrote: On Nov 17, 6:41=A0pm, Andie wrote: t nce SD uter If you did read this thread completely, you must know that you need to confirm that your reader is SDHC compatible. Both the SD (limited to 2GB max) and the SDHC (starting with 4GB) might be the same size but the internals of the media cards are not the same. A SD reader (which seems to be what you have) will never read a SDHC media card. However, a SDHC card reader will successfully read a SD media card. On Sunday, January 04, 2009 5:35 PM Tommym wrote: I tried everything before I realized I had the problem that was listed here. I bought a OHM sdhc usb card reader at Target for $4.99 It is very small,I keep it in my case and can now download pictures on all the older computers. I found this site through a google search. I now have it bookmarked. Thanks Tommy -- Tommym ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tommym's Profile: http://forums.techarena.in/members/tommym.htm View this thread: http://forums.techarena.in/xp-hardware/1058935.htm http://forums.techarena.in On Friday, June 12, 2009 11:38 AM SRomero wrote: You are required to be a member to post replies. After logging in or becoming a member, you will be redirected back to this page. On Friday, October 16, 2009 3:59 PM Gail_07 wrote: I am having the exact same problem and do not think it is related to the 4 Gig SD card, as much as it is to the number of photos on the card. I have successfully uploaded videos and movies from the exact same card, but in small quantities (seldom more than 80 pics @ 12 mp each) Just home from vacation and am unable to upload 1,000 pics @ 5 mp each from the same card that worked before -- Gail_07 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Gail_07's Profile: http://forums.techarena.in/members/144994.htm View this thread: http://forums.techarena.in/xp-hardware/1058935.htm http://forums.techarena.in On Friday, October 16, 2009 6:30 PM Bob Willard wrote: Gail_07 wrote: I do not think the problem is caused by XP. I have XP SP3 on this PC, and I have read several hundred pix from my 4GB card. (In fact, ISTR that I filled the card with ~1100 .JPGs and then read it, as a test, when I first got that 4GB card.) -- Cheers, Bob On Monday, October 19, 2009 12:03 PM smlunatick wrote: wrote: n t Besides having the XP with all updates, the card reader must support the newer SDHC format. Both the older SD (Secure Digital) and the SDHC (Secure Digital High Capacity) cards appear to be the exact same size, the internal media structures are not the same. |
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WinXP SP3 can't read 4GB SD card in multicard reader
Dumbo: You replied to a post from 2008. Do you really think the OP is
coming back to read your reply after all these years? On 3/31/2011 3:50 AM, Tony Gomm wrote: Hi, I have the same problem (a multi-card reader that won't access 4Gb+ cards) but got round the problem by buying a cheap USB SDHC reader that does work if plugged into the multi-reader USB slot. On Tuesday, October 21, 2008 3:08 PM Orrie wrote: Hi, I am trying to connect a 4GB SD (Hewlett Packard brand) in a multi-card reader to a USB port on my Win XP SP3 computer. The computer doesn't recognize either the SD, nor any of the "drives" usually displayed for this multi-card reader. In fact, the computer would not start properly with the card reader/4 GB card connected. I believe the computer has USB 1 ports, and the card reader is certified for USB2, and has worked fine with xD, SD and CF cards of 2 GB and smaller. Everything works fine if I insert a 2GB card in the same slot of card reader. Reading past messages about this problem, I saw that it was supposed to solved with SP3. Is there anything else I am supposed to do to get Win XP SP3 to recognize a 4 GB card, such as install driver or new dll, or change a BIOS setting? Or is it necessary to buy a new card reader that may have updated specs? Thank you. Orrie On Tuesday, October 21, 2008 3:26 PM Malke wrote: Orrie wrote: 1. The First Question Of Troubleshooting: If the problem is new, what changed between the time things worked and the time they didn't? 2. Do you have Acronis True Image Home installed? Apparently there is an issue with USB card readers not being seen after the latest Windows Updates. The solution is to get and install the latest build of True Image from Acronis' website. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ On Tuesday, October 21, 2008 4:07 PM Paul wrote: Orrie wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_digital "The format has proven to be very popular. However, a change in the format, while allowing capacities greater than 4 GB (SDHC), has created compatibility issues with older devices which cannot read the new format. Since SDHC format cards have the same physical shape and form factor as the older format, this has caused considerable confusion for consumers. SDHC cards require an SDHC capable device firmware, generally not found with older devices." HTH, Paul On Tuesday, October 21, 2008 6:05 PM Big_Al wrote: Orrie wrote: I won't say it will work but look at this. I bought a 4 gig chip and it would not work on my built in reader. Found this fix (which is in SP3 by the way). http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923293 You have to request it from MS, but that's just a click of the link. On Tuesday, October 21, 2008 10:46 PM Orrie wrote: Hmm. The fact that only the 4 GB cards give me problems makes your point about their requiring an SDHC capatible reader seem worth pursuing. I'll have to try one. I've had my card reader for a few years, and I think it pre-dates the SDHC cards. At the time I bought it, I was shooting with an Olympus that used xD cards, and I think the largest xD card available was only either 512 MB or 1 GB. I don't know if SD cards were available with higher capacity, nor whether SDHC cards were available at all. Orrie wrote in message ... On Oct 21, 8:26 pm, wrote: 4GB SD card is in reality a SDHC card. Both the SD and SDHC cards are the exact same size but SDHC requires a SDHC card reader. SDHC cards "internal" structure is different than the SD cards. Does your card reader state that it can read SDHC cards? On Tuesday, October 21, 2008 10:52 PM Orrie wrote: Thanks, Al. I think I will try a new card reader first before installing an MS Hotfix. If a new card reader doesn't work, I'll try the Hotfix and/or Acronis True Image Home. I was afraid that if I shoot a bunch of pix on a 4 GB card, I wouldn't be able to get them uploaded into my computer. I'll be visiting my grandchildren soon, and having my pix of them stuck in a card would be a real pain. Orrie wrote in message ... On Tuesday, October 21, 2008 11:00 PM Orrie wrote: I just discovered something odd when I tried to uploading a couple of test photos from the 4GB SD card directly from my Canon PowerShot S5 camera. In other words, bypassing the card reader The Canon software wouldn't recognize it the card, and started search for other sources from pix. However, when I tried to upload the test pix using Picasa 2, it worked without a hitch. Picasa recognized the camera, and didn't have any trouble uploading the images. Of course, there were only two images on the card. I'll have to try this again after I shoot a few hundred. Orrie wrote in message ... On Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:15 AM M.I.5¾ wrote: wrote in message ... 4GB and larger SD cards are in a new architecture called HCSD (High Capacity Secure Data). They are not compatible with older card readers that were not built to access the new cards. The change in architecture was necessary because the original SD architecture had a 2GB limit. It has nothing to do with the USB media driver and SP3 is not at fault here. On Friday, October 24, 2008 7:13 AM smlunatick wrote: On Oct 21, 8:26=A0pm, wrote: d of ze ? e 4GB SD card is in reality a SDHC card. Both the SD and SDHC cards are the exact same size but SDHC requires a SDHC card reader. SDHC cards "internal" structure is different than the SD cards. Does your card reader state that it can read SDHC cards? On Friday, October 24, 2008 7:13 AM smlunatick wrote: On Oct 22, 3:46=A0am, wrote: C xD r 1 rd r y ied t to g? cs? n age xD cards are up to 2GB and only Olympus is still using the format. My Fuji Film camera can use both SDHC and xD cards. With SDHC cards getting to 32GB, xD seems to be going way of the SmartMedia cards, extinct! On Friday, October 24, 2008 7:13 AM smlunatick wrote: t n ize e d of ze g? ? As with any software, check for updates. Also, check your local stores for SDHC sales. Some SDHC memory cards can be bundled with a compatible reader. On Monday, November 17, 2008 1:41 PM Andi wrote: Any luck yet? i AM having your same problem and have been browsing the net for a solution. Most of the sites say to download the patch for xp but since i have sp3 i already have the patch but my multireader is not reading 4gb SD HC card...Some peaople said it worked for them on the same dell 1505 computer with the patch but I cannot install the patch...what now? On Tuesday, November 18, 2008 8:14 PM smlunatick wrote: On Nov 17, 6:41=A0pm, wrote: t nce SD uter If you did read this thread completely, you must know that you need to confirm that your reader is SDHC compatible. Both the SD (limited to 2GB max) and the SDHC (starting with 4GB) might be the same size but the internals of the media cards are not the same. A SD reader (which seems to be what you have) will never read a SDHC media card. However, a SDHC card reader will successfully read a SD media card. On Sunday, January 04, 2009 5:35 PM Tommym wrote: I tried everything before I realized I had the problem that was listed here. I bought a OHM sdhc usb card reader at Target for $4.99 It is very small,I keep it in my case and can now download pictures on all the older computers. I found this site through a google search. I now have it bookmarked. Thanks Tommy -- Tommym ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tommym's Profile: http://forums.techarena.in/members/tommym.htm View this thread: http://forums.techarena.in/xp-hardware/1058935.htm http://forums.techarena.in On Friday, June 12, 2009 11:38 AM SRomero wrote: You are required to be a member to post replies. After logging in or becoming a member, you will be redirected back to this page. On Friday, October 16, 2009 3:59 PM Gail_07 wrote: I am having the exact same problem and do not think it is related to the 4 Gig SD card, as much as it is to the number of photos on the card. I have successfully uploaded videos and movies from the exact same card, but in small quantities (seldom more than 80 pics @ 12 mp each) Just home from vacation and am unable to upload 1,000 pics @ 5 mp each from the same card that worked before -- Gail_07 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Gail_07's Profile: http://forums.techarena.in/members/144994.htm View this thread: http://forums.techarena.in/xp-hardware/1058935.htm http://forums.techarena.in On Friday, October 16, 2009 6:30 PM Bob Willard wrote: Gail_07 wrote: I do not think the problem is caused by XP. I have XP SP3 on this PC, and I have read several hundred pix from my 4GB card. (In fact, ISTR that I filled the card with ~1100 .JPGs and then read it, as a test, when I first got that 4GB card.) -- Cheers, Bob On Monday, October 19, 2009 12:03 PM smlunatick wrote: wrote: n t Besides having the XP with all updates, the card reader must support the newer SDHC format. Both the older SD (Secure Digital) and the SDHC (Secure Digital High Capacity) cards appear to be the exact same size, the internal media structures are not the same. |
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