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Better keyboard wanted.
I have tried many keyboards and they all have the
"hair-trigger" problem, which is a keystroke is registered even when adjacent keys are skimmed or brushed. The old keyboards had to be pressed down to a certain depth before the stroke registered and I want this type again. Can someone advise me what these latter boards are called, and where they can be bought? Frank |
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Better keyboard wanted.
Frank Martin wrote:
I have tried many keyboards and they all have the "hair-trigger" problem, which is a keystroke is registered even when adjacent keys are skimmed or brushed. The old keyboards had to be pressed down to a certain depth before the stroke registered and I want this type again. Can someone advise me what these latter boards are called, and where they can be bought? Frank Best is to visit an actual store with displays of keyboards that you can feel for yourself how they behave. The old Northgate company is gone that built strong keyboards (no flex, keys took a lot of punishment). You could bang on the old Northgate Omnikey Ultra keyboards repeatedly with your fist. At most, maybe a keycap popped off but you could just snap it back on. Of course, that's back when keyboards cost way over a hundred bucks rather than the cheap $5 to $30 models commonly available now. While Northgate disappeared a long time ago, Creative Vision Technologies resurrected the Northgate keyboard in their Avant Stellar model (at $189). http://www.cvtinc.com/products/keyboards/menu.htm http://www.cvtinc.com/products/keyboards/comparison.htm Ruggedized keyboards still cost a lot. |
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"VanguardLH" wrote in message ... Frank Martin wrote: I have tried many keyboards and they all have the "hair-trigger" problem, which is a keystroke is registered even when adjacent keys are skimmed or brushed. The old keyboards had to be pressed down to a certain depth before the stroke registered and I want this type again. Can someone advise me what these latter boards are called, and where they can be bought? Frank Best is to visit an actual store with displays of keyboards that you can feel for yourself how they behave. The old Northgate company is gone that built strong keyboards (no flex, keys took a lot of punishment). You could bang on the old Northgate Omnikey Ultra keyboards repeatedly with your fist. At most, maybe a keycap popped off but you could just snap it back on. Of course, that's back when keyboards cost way over a hundred bucks rather than the cheap $5 to $30 models commonly available now. While Northgate disappeared a long time ago, Creative Vision Technologies resurrected the Northgate keyboard in their Avant Stellar model (at $189). http://www.cvtinc.com/products/keyboards/menu.htm http://www.cvtinc.com/products/keyboards/comparison.htm Ruggedized keyboards still cost a lot. Thanks, I'll look into this. My favourite from the old days was a NEC keyboard, but it died after succumbing to too many coffee floods and congealed breadcrumbs. None have ever been as good as this one. |
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Frank Martin typed: I have tried many keyboards and they all have the "hair-trigger" problem, which is a keystroke is registered even when adjacent keys are skimmed or brushed. The old keyboards had to be pressed down to a certain depth before the stroke registered and I want this type again. Can someone advise me what these latter boards are called, and where they can be bought? Frank Try Adesso or Cherry keyboards; both make excellent, old style long-life mechanical switch keyboards. If you use it a lot, Adesso tends to lose it key printing, but Cherry works great. Lost of choices/prices available from both. Both, among many others, make professional keyboards. I have two each of the programmable types. I like Adesso the best since I touch-type, but the lettering wears off on them where no other brand 've found has that problem. They silk-screen instead of burn the lettering onto the keys. HTH, Twayne` |
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Frank Martin wrote:
I have tried many keyboards and they all have the "hair-trigger" problem, which is a keystroke is registered even when adjacent keys are skimmed or brushed. The old keyboards had to be pressed down to a certain depth before the stroke registered and I want this type again. Can someone advise me what these latter boards are called, and where they can be bought? Frank I agree with the previous comment-----I bought several keyboards without trying them out and they were quickly discarded-----I now use a Microsoft Wired 500 which has a very good feel to the touch to the keys is rugged with just enough extra keys to be useful and is supported by the Micosoft Intellitype software that can be downloaded for free.Working in a computer shop as I do we sell and recommend Logitech and in many years have never has a single complaint or return |
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Has anyone had an Adesso or Cherry and calculated the cost of how much the
keyboard is, how long it lasts and compared it to say if I bought a cheaper keyboard and replaced it more often? Does either of them make anything wireless? We moved at work a few years ago and the owners bought desks without thinking what side of the desk the computer should be on. I'm stuck with the computer on the left, thus the wire goes across my big feet and I kick it off sometimes. The company won't pay for anything, so I brought my $70 Logitech G7 mouse from home to use. Have been wanting a keyboard also. Currently using a $9.99 wireless keyboard I got at Rite-Aid little over a year ago and it needs replacing soon. "Twayne" wrote in message ... In , Frank Martin typed: I have tried many keyboards and they all have the "hair-trigger" problem, which is a keystroke is registered even when adjacent keys are skimmed or brushed. The old keyboards had to be pressed down to a certain depth before the stroke registered and I want this type again. Can someone advise me what these latter boards are called, and where they can be bought? Frank Try Adesso or Cherry keyboards; both make excellent, old style long-life mechanical switch keyboards. If you use it a lot, Adesso tends to lose it key printing, but Cherry works great. Lost of choices/prices available from both. Both, among many others, make professional keyboards. I have two each of the programmable types. I like Adesso the best since I touch-type, but the lettering wears off on them where no other brand 've found has that problem. They silk-screen instead of burn the lettering onto the keys. HTH, Twayne` |
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yuppicide typed: Has anyone had an Adesso or Cherry and calculated the cost of how much the keyboard is, how long it lasts and compared it to say if I bought a cheaper keyboard and replaced it more often? Does either of them make anything wireless? We moved at work a few years ago and the owners bought desks without thinking what side of the desk the computer should be on. I'm stuck with the computer on the left, thus the wire goes across my big feet and I kick it off sometimes. The company won't pay for anything, so I brought my $70 Logitech G7 mouse from home to use. Have been wanting a keyboard also. Currently using a $9.99 wireless keyboard I got at Rite-Aid little over a year ago and it needs replacing soon. "Twayne" wrote in message ... In , Frank Martin typed: I have tried many keyboards and they all have the "hair-trigger" problem, which is a keystroke is registered even when adjacent keys are skimmed or brushed. The old keyboards had to be pressed down to a certain depth before the stroke registered and I want this type again. Can someone advise me what these latter boards are called, and where they can be bought? Frank Try Adesso or Cherry keyboards; both make excellent, old style long-life mechanical switch keyboards. If you use it a lot, Adesso tends to lose it key printing, but Cherry works great. Lost of choices/prices available from both. Both, among many others, make professional keyboards. I have two each of the programmable types. I like Adesso the best since I touch-type, but the lettering wears off on them where no other brand 've found has that problem. They silk-screen instead of burn the lettering onto the keys. HTH, Twayne` All 3 of them are still working fine with the exception of the worn key printing on the Adesso's. About 5, 3, and 2 years old resp, Adesso & Cherry. Remember, these are made for commercial use, not reisdential and so are going to be reasonably robust. |
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I've never had a keyboard last that long, so I can see those definitely
paying for themselves. Are they easy to open and clean? Even at work the crevices between the keys get dirty and who knows how all the crap get there.. I hardly ever eat at my desk. "Twayne" wrote in message ... In , yuppicide typed: Has anyone had an Adesso or Cherry and calculated the cost of how much the keyboard is, how long it lasts and compared it to say if I bought a cheaper keyboard and replaced it more often? Does either of them make anything wireless? We moved at work a few years ago and the owners bought desks without thinking what side of the desk the computer should be on. I'm stuck with the computer on the left, thus the wire goes across my big feet and I kick it off sometimes. The company won't pay for anything, so I brought my $70 Logitech G7 mouse from home to use. Have been wanting a keyboard also. Currently using a $9.99 wireless keyboard I got at Rite-Aid little over a year ago and it needs replacing soon. "Twayne" wrote in message ... In , Frank Martin typed: I have tried many keyboards and they all have the "hair-trigger" problem, which is a keystroke is registered even when adjacent keys are skimmed or brushed. The old keyboards had to be pressed down to a certain depth before the stroke registered and I want this type again. Can someone advise me what these latter boards are called, and where they can be bought? Frank Try Adesso or Cherry keyboards; both make excellent, old style long-life mechanical switch keyboards. If you use it a lot, Adesso tends to lose it key printing, but Cherry works great. Lost of choices/prices available from both. Both, among many others, make professional keyboards. I have two each of the programmable types. I like Adesso the best since I touch-type, but the lettering wears off on them where no other brand 've found has that problem. They silk-screen instead of burn the lettering onto the keys. HTH, Twayne` All 3 of them are still working fine with the exception of the worn key printing on the Adesso's. About 5, 3, and 2 years old resp, Adesso & Cherry. Remember, these are made for commercial use, not reisdential and so are going to be reasonably robust. |
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yuppicide typed: I've never had a keyboard last that long, so I can see those definitely paying for themselves. Are they easy to open and clean? Even at work the crevices between the keys get dirty and who knows how all the crap get there.. I hardly ever eat at my desk. As a general rule, there really is little reason to open the keyboard cases and in many of them it will void the warranty. Compressed air and repeatedly turning upside down and shaking is all I've ever done to any keyboard. The actual key mechanisms in the better keyboards are sealed against dust & dirt anyway so unless you're packing so much stuff in there it keeps the caps from being depressed, there really isn't any reason to do that. Especially true BTW if you have a liquid-protected keyboard. BTW, stick to valid sources for things like this. Don't find a good keyboard and then go looking to see how cheap you can get it; you'll lose support at a minimum, warranty possibly and they might be selling end-of-run models or lemon clearances; they're not going to tell you. They'll carry what they can get and sell cheap only. I often choose by the warranty periods; One I had trouble deciding on were a 3-year vs a 5-year warranty; so I went for the 5-year. The reason I'm into these things is I like programmable keyboards and make good use of them. Watch out; programmables, or good ones anyway, get to $100 or + in a hurry. I've found POS boards to have the best sets of features, actually, as long as you can get them without the stupid card readers and all the nonsense stuff I'll never use. POS usually means rugged and takes punishment. So far so good. HTH, Twayne` "Twayne" wrote in message ... In , yuppicide typed: Has anyone had an Adesso or Cherry and calculated the cost of how much the keyboard is, how long it lasts and compared it to say if I bought a cheaper keyboard and replaced it more often? Does either of them make anything wireless? We moved at work a few years ago and the owners bought desks without thinking what side of the desk the computer should be on. I'm stuck with the computer on the left, thus the wire goes across my big feet and I kick it off sometimes. The company won't pay for anything, so I brought my $70 Logitech G7 mouse from home to use. Have been wanting a keyboard also. Currently using a $9.99 wireless keyboard I got at Rite-Aid little over a year ago and it needs replacing soon. "Twayne" wrote in message ... In , Frank Martin typed: I have tried many keyboards and they all have the "hair-trigger" problem, which is a keystroke is registered even when adjacent keys are skimmed or brushed. The old keyboards had to be pressed down to a certain depth before the stroke registered and I want this type again. Can someone advise me what these latter boards are called, and where they can be bought? Frank Try Adesso or Cherry keyboards; both make excellent, old style long-life mechanical switch keyboards. If you use it a lot, Adesso tends to lose it key printing, but Cherry works great. Lost of choices/prices available from both. Both, among many others, make professional keyboards. I have two each of the programmable types. I like Adesso the best since I touch-type, but the lettering wears off on them where no other brand 've found has that problem. They silk-screen instead of burn the lettering onto the keys. HTH, Twayne` All 3 of them are still working fine with the exception of the worn key printing on the Adesso's. About 5, 3, and 2 years old resp, Adesso & Cherry. Remember, these are made for commercial use, not reisdential and so are going to be reasonably robust. |
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It sounds as if, like me, you have been remembering the old IBM Model M keyboards. Solid. metal not plastic, fewer typos. Last year, some advice I got in this list led me here. http://www.dansdata.com/clicky2.htm To cut the story short, I bought one of these from Unicomp, and I haven't looked back. http://pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net/customizer.html It's a bit bigger than normal, and heavy because it's made of metal, but the typing experience is so much better. On 01/06/2010 06:13, Frank Martin wrote: I have tried many keyboards and they all have the "hair-trigger" problem, which is a keystroke is registered even when adjacent keys are skimmed or brushed. The old keyboards had to be pressed down to a certain depth before the stroke registered and I want this type again. Can someone advise me what these latter boards are called, and where they can be bought? Frank |
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On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 15:13:29 +1000, "Frank Martin"
wrote: I have tried many keyboards and they all have the "hair-trigger" problem, which is a keystroke is registered even when adjacent keys are skimmed or brushed. The old keyboards had to be pressed down to a certain depth before the stroke registered and I want this type again. Can someone advise me what these latter boards are called, and where they can be bought? Frank I've been through the same thing. I would like very much to find a new keyboard like my old Microsoft Natural Keyboard Pro that I bought a few years back, but I can not locate anything close to this. I like the large size...fits my large hands...and the raised, curved shape. Does anyone have any leads as to where I might find a keyboard like this old one? |
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Antares wrote on Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:00:34 -0500:
I have tried many keyboards and they all have the "hair-trigger" problem, which is a keystroke is registered even when adjacent keys are skimmed or brushed. The old keyboards had to be pressed down to a certain depth before the stroke registered and I want this type again. Can someone advise me what these latter boards are called, and where they can be bought? Frank I've been through the same thing. I would like very much to find a new keyboard like my old Microsoft Natural Keyboard Pro that I bought a few years back, but I can not locate anything close to this. I like the large size...fits my large hands...and the raised, curved shape. Does anyone have any leads as to where I might find a keyboard like this old one? What I'd like is a wireless keyboard and mouse whose batteries lasted longer than a few weeks, used 10 hours a day. Logitech used to make a system but they discontinued it. The mouse had a recharging stand and the 4 batteries in the keyboard lasted for months. -- James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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I used to work at Radio Shack in the 90's. There was on Indian
(middle-eastern) guy who worked for us part-time when he wasn't at his day job. He used to take the whole keyboard apart and put it in a sink full of water.. even the PCB.. I'd never go that far and heck, it's not THAT dirty. "Twayne" wrote in message ... In , yuppicide typed: I've never had a keyboard last that long, so I can see those definitely paying for themselves. Are they easy to open and clean? Even at work the crevices between the keys get dirty and who knows how all the crap get there.. I hardly ever eat at my desk. As a general rule, there really is little reason to open the keyboard cases and in many of them it will void the warranty. Compressed air and repeatedly turning upside down and shaking is all I've ever done to any keyboard. The actual key mechanisms in the better keyboards are sealed against dust & dirt anyway so unless you're packing so much stuff in there it keeps the caps from being depressed, there really isn't any reason to do that. Especially true BTW if you have a liquid-protected keyboard. BTW, stick to valid sources for things like this. Don't find a good keyboard and then go looking to see how cheap you can get it; you'll lose support at a minimum, warranty possibly and they might be selling end-of-run models or lemon clearances; they're not going to tell you. They'll carry what they can get and sell cheap only. I often choose by the warranty periods; One I had trouble deciding on were a 3-year vs a 5-year warranty; so I went for the 5-year. The reason I'm into these things is I like programmable keyboards and make good use of them. Watch out; programmables, or good ones anyway, get to $100 or + in a hurry. I've found POS boards to have the best sets of features, actually, as long as you can get them without the stupid card readers and all the nonsense stuff I'll never use. POS usually means rugged and takes punishment. So far so good. HTH, Twayne` "Twayne" wrote in message ... In , yuppicide typed: Has anyone had an Adesso or Cherry and calculated the cost of how much the keyboard is, how long it lasts and compared it to say if I bought a cheaper keyboard and replaced it more often? Does either of them make anything wireless? We moved at work a few years ago and the owners bought desks without thinking what side of the desk the computer should be on. I'm stuck with the computer on the left, thus the wire goes across my big feet and I kick it off sometimes. The company won't pay for anything, so I brought my $70 Logitech G7 mouse from home to use. Have been wanting a keyboard also. Currently using a $9.99 wireless keyboard I got at Rite-Aid little over a year ago and it needs replacing soon. "Twayne" wrote in message ... In , Frank Martin typed: I have tried many keyboards and they all have the "hair-trigger" problem, which is a keystroke is registered even when adjacent keys are skimmed or brushed. The old keyboards had to be pressed down to a certain depth before the stroke registered and I want this type again. Can someone advise me what these latter boards are called, and where they can be bought? Frank Try Adesso or Cherry keyboards; both make excellent, old style long-life mechanical switch keyboards. If you use it a lot, Adesso tends to lose it key printing, but Cherry works great. Lost of choices/prices available from both. Both, among many others, make professional keyboards. I have two each of the programmable types. I like Adesso the best since I touch-type, but the lettering wears off on them where no other brand 've found has that problem. They silk-screen instead of burn the lettering onto the keys. HTH, Twayne` All 3 of them are still working fine with the exception of the worn key printing on the Adesso's. About 5, 3, and 2 years old resp, Adesso & Cherry. Remember, these are made for commercial use, not reisdential and so are going to be reasonably robust. |
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