Windows updates

Anyone know why there are so many Windows 7 updates coming through?
I've had updates everyday for about the last week.

Art Todesco wrote:
Anyone know why there are so many Windows 7 updates coming through? I've
had updates everyday for about the last week.

Are they mostly MSE definition updates?

Ed

Art Todesco wrote:
Anyone know why there are so many Windows 7 updates coming through? I've
had updates everyday for about the last week.

Looping ?

Did you check your Windows Update history for
"failed" items ?

Paul

On 7/15/2018 2:41 PM, Paul wrote:
Art Todesco wrote:
Anyone know why there are so many Windows 7 updates coming through?
I've had updates everyday for about the last week.

Looping ?

Did you check your Windows Update history for
"failed" items ?

Â*Â* Paul
All were successful and about half were MSE updates. Also they started
on July 1 and there are updates for each day; and several on some days.

Art Todesco wrote:
On 7/15/2018 2:41 PM, Paul wrote:
Art Todesco wrote:
Anyone know why there are so many Windows 7 updates coming through?
I've had updates everyday for about the last week.

Looping ?

Did you check your Windows Update history for
"failed" items ?

Â*Â*Â* Paul
All were successful and about half were MSE updates.Â* Also they started
on July 1 and there are updates for each day; and several on some days.

Same here with the MSE updates. It started about the time you mention.
They used to update automatically.
I have "Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and
install them"; and it's been like that for years. So this change in
behaviour must have been occasioned by some MS amendment.

As you say, they now function just like Windows updates; and we get the
message saying updates available, leaving it up to us to download.

Ed

On 7/15/2018 4:29 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
Art Todesco wrote:
On 7/15/2018 2:41 PM, Paul wrote:
Art Todesco wrote:
Anyone know why there are so many Windows 7 updates coming through?
I've had updates everyday for about the last week.

Looping ?

Did you check your Windows Update history for
"failed" items ?

Â*Â*Â* Paul
All were successful and about half were MSE updates.Â* Also they
started on July 1 and there are updates for each day; and several on
some days.

Same here with the MSE updates. It started about the time you mention.
They used to update automatically.
I have "Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and
install them"; and it's been like that for years. So this change in
behaviour must have been occasioned by some MS amendment.

As you say, they now function just like Windows updates; and we get the
message saying updates available, leaving it up to us to download.

Ed

Yup, just got another one this AM. It was optional "Silverlight" and
not optional MSE update.

Art Todesco wrote:
On 7/15/2018 4:29 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
Art Todesco wrote:
On 7/15/2018 2:41 PM, Paul wrote:
Art Todesco wrote:
Anyone know why there are so many Windows 7 updates coming through?
I've had updates everyday for about the last week.

Looping ?

Did you check your Windows Update history for
"failed" items ?

Â*Â*Â* Paul
All were successful and about half were MSE updates.Â* Also they
started on July 1 and there are updates for each day; and several on
some days.

Same here with the MSE updates. It started about the time you mention.
They used to update automatically.
I have "Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and
install them"; and it's been like that for years. So this change in
behaviour must have been occasioned by some MS amendment.

As you say, they now function just like Windows updates; and we get
the message saying updates available, leaving it up to us to download.

Ed

Yup, just got another one this AM.Â* It was optional "Silverlight" and
not optional MSE update.

My MSE updates now come as "Recommended". They used to be "Optional"
until 06.07.
I've had no Silverlight update for weeks. Two new MSE ones today; both
flagged for me to download at my leisure.

The only way I can think of getting back to auto-updating the MSE things
is to change settings to "download and install" for all updates. And I
ain't a gonna do that, no way.
So I'm stuck with what MS have dumped on me.

Ed

Boris wrote:
Art Todesco wrote in news
On 7/15/2018 4:29 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
Art Todesco wrote:
On 7/15/2018 2:41 PM, Paul wrote:
Art Todesco wrote:
Anyone know why there are so many Windows 7 updates coming through?
I've had updates everyday for about the last week.
Looping ?

Did you check your Windows Update history for
"failed" items ?

   Paul
All were successful and about half were MSE updates. Also they
started on July 1 and there are updates for each day; and several on
some days.
Same here with the MSE updates. It started about the time you mention.
They used to update automatically.
I have "Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and
install them"; and it's been like that for years. So this change in
behaviour must have been occasioned by some MS amendment.

As you say, they now function just like Windows updates; and we get the
message saying updates available, leaving it up to us to download.

Ed

Yup, just got another one this AM. It was optional "Silverlight" and
not optional MSE update.

Art, can you tell us what is the Virus definition version and the spyware
definition version appear in your MSE program? I have both as 1.271.1136.0.

If I press the update button, I get that they are up to date. But, if I go
to Microsoft to download the 'current' version, I am presented with version
4.10.0209.0, not version 1.271.1136.0 (supposedly up to date?).

Long ago, I turned off automatic updating and have been set at "Check for
updates but let me decide whether to download and install them". Today, I've
got 43 important updates sitting, waiting to be downloaded/installed. I have
not downloaded or installed any in years (well, maybe a few Security and
Office updates). I suppose that if I did install those 43 updates, that
would trigger another heap of updates , etc, until I was up to date.

About the MSE updates...I have at least one, sometimes two, per day, going
back to 1/20/2015, showing up in "Review your update history". There is a
small gap between 6/14/2016 and 8/28/2016 in which there are other updates,
but no MSE updates. There are a few other updates which I intentionally
installed throughout the years.

But, I did not install any of the MSE updates. None.

Your post got me to look closer at this MSE update situation, because for
you, having so many MSE updates was unusual, but for me, it 'seems' to be
normal.

Also, from 1/20/2015, all MSE updates listed in "Review your update history"
were 'Optional'. Then, beginning on 7/5/2018, they became 'Recommended'.
Again, I did not download or install a single one.

So how did they get there? I've been watching the Windows Update
notification in the system tray more carefully since I read your post. It
(has)always (said) says "New updates are available", but normally there's
nothing in there that I want. Paying more attention shows me that at least
once a day, there is a MSE update listed as 'Important', and ready for
download. The latest was 1.271.1119.0. I expected this one to later appear
as installed in the "Review your update history", and disappear from Windows
Update. Sure enough, later in the day 1.271.1119.0 disappears from Windows
Update, and a new MSE update does appear in the "Review your update history",
but the new one it is not 1.271.1119.0. It is 1.271.1136.0 (installed at
2:33 PM). It seems that the version number that makes it to the installed
list is never the version that shows up in Windows Update.

Holy ****. As I am writing this, I went back to "Review your update
history", and there's a new MSE update, 1.271.1140.0 just installed at 7:18
PM. There are still 43 'Important' updates in Windows Update. Don't know if
1.271.1140.0 flowed through Windows Update while I wasn't watching, or not.

Anyway, what is the Virus definition version and the spyware definition
version appear in your MSE program?

I may try to get the most current version, since now I'm not sure about this
version, even though it reports up to date. I do have a tested clone and
backup image should things go south.


Why not backup, fire in every Windows Update under the
sun, note the version numbers after the reboot, then
roll back the system by restoring from backup kater ?

This is why you should keep your contents of C: small,
and transfer your movie collection from Downloads to a
D: drive. To separate the items when doing backups for this
kind of Windows maintenance.

A typical C: backup here takes ten minutes.

Paul

Boris wrote:
Art Todesco wrote in news
On 7/15/2018 4:29 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
Art Todesco wrote:
On 7/15/2018 2:41 PM, Paul wrote:
Art Todesco wrote:
Anyone know why there are so many Windows 7 updates coming through?
I've had updates everyday for about the last week.

Looping ?

Did you check your Windows Update history for
"failed" items ?

Â*Â*Â* Paul
All were successful and about half were MSE updates.Â* Also they
started on July 1 and there are updates for each day; and several on
some days.

Same here with the MSE updates. It started about the time you mention.
They used to update automatically.
I have "Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and
install them"; and it's been like that for years. So this change in
behaviour must have been occasioned by some MS amendment.

As you say, they now function just like Windows updates; and we get the
message saying updates available, leaving it up to us to download.

Ed

Yup, just got another one this AM. It was optional "Silverlight" and
not optional MSE update.

Art, can you tell us what is the Virus definition version and the spyware
definition version appear in your MSE program? I have both as 1.271.1136.0.

If I press the update button, I get that they are up to date. But, if I go
to Microsoft to download the 'current' version, I am presented with version
4.10.0209.0, not version 1.271.1136.0 (supposedly up to date?).

Long ago, I turned off automatic updating and have been set at "Check for
updates but let me decide whether to download and install them". Today, I've
got 43 important updates sitting, waiting to be downloaded/installed. I have
not downloaded or installed any in years (well, maybe a few Security and
Office updates). I suppose that if I did install those 43 updates, that
would trigger another heap of updates , etc, until I was up to date.

About the MSE updates...I have at least one, sometimes two, per day, going
back to 1/20/2015, showing up in "Review your update history". There is a
small gap between 6/14/2016 and 8/28/2016 in which there are other updates,
but no MSE updates. There are a few other updates which I intentionally
installed throughout the years.

But, I did not install any of the MSE updates. None.

Your post got me to look closer at this MSE update situation, because for
you, having so many MSE updates was unusual, but for me, it 'seems' to be
normal.

Also, from 1/20/2015, all MSE updates listed in "Review your update history"
were 'Optional'. Then, beginning on 7/5/2018, they became 'Recommended'.
Again, I did not download or install a single one.

So how did they get there? I've been watching the Windows Update
notification in the system tray more carefully since I read your post. It
(has)always (said) says "New updates are available", but normally there's
nothing in there that I want. Paying more attention shows me that at least
once a day, there is a MSE update listed as 'Important', and ready for
download. The latest was 1.271.1119.0. I expected this one to later appear
as installed in the "Review your update history", and disappear from Windows
Update. Sure enough, later in the day 1.271.1119.0 disappears from Windows
Update, and a new MSE update does appear in the "Review your update history",
but the new one it is not 1.271.1119.0. It is 1.271.1136.0 (installed at
2:33 PM). It seems that the version number that makes it to the installed
list is never the version that shows up in Windows Update.

Holy ****. As I am writing this, I went back to "Review your update
history", and there's a new MSE update, 1.271.1140.0 just installed at 7:18
PM. There are still 43 'Important' updates in Windows Update. Don't know if
1.271.1140.0 flowed through Windows Update while I wasn't watching, or not.

Anyway, what is the Virus definition version and the spyware definition
version appear in your MSE program?

I may try to get the most current version, since now I'm not sure about this
version, even though it reports up to date. I do have a tested clone and
backup image should things go south.


I have 1.271.1173.0 for both, updated 7 mins ago.

Ed

For whatever it might be worth :

7/21/18
Important
2018-07
Security Monthly Quality Rollup
for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems
KB 4338818 ( failed )

7/21/18
Optional
2018-07
Preview of Monthly Quality Rollup
for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems
KB 4338821 ( failed )