dual boot

"BillW50" wrote in message ...

And what does Microsoft say we are suppose to do with the Windows 8 Pro Upgrade ($199.99 list price) that didn't work out?

Understand what you bought and the return policy
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/prod...nd/refund.mspx

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 21:47:44 +0000 (UTC), anotherpaul
wrote:

On 2012-12-22, fritz wrote:
On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 20:00:27 +0000, Robin Bignall
wrote:

The way I read it is the same as you and Dave-UK. Win8 replaces the
Win7 and the latter can no longer be used. Sure, you can reinstall Win7
from an image, but will it re-activate?

One doesn't reinstall an image, one restores it. Reactivation is not
an issue - all the activation stuff is in the image.

Think about it - All the os partitions that get restored and all the
SSDs that get the OS moved to them don't have to get activated again,
because... taa daa... the activation stuff is already there.

I dunno; I can't get Win8 to
install on this system, but has anyone upgraded, didn't like Win8 and
tried to reinstall Win7?

Reinstall, no. Restore, yes. Did that on 12 Nov and all was as it
should be after the exercise and still is. Done with Acronis True
Image.

I did the reinstall yesterday. Read this post about the activation
& checked but had thought that it was activated during the install.
Anyway, the system info page says I got 2 days left to activate & so I
hit the "activate now" & it got done. The system info say my win7
is now activated.

My copy of win7 was streamlined with the sp1 & it still had around
98 updates to do! Still getting the "no permission" regarding a file
every now & then; a big pain because of the way the "security" was
implemented. As I'm the only one on the system, I have decided to
make the "owner" as "everyone" & with full control; it might help
next time on an OS change/upgrade/update.

So, if you can install an upgrade to W8 (which is supposed to invalidate
the W7 licence) and then go back to W7 by overwriting W8 with your
activated W7 image, what in the blue blazes does the licence actually
mean?

My (wrong) guess about activation was because I thought that M$ checks
your system each time you log on, and presumably could somehow
invalidate something that was not licensed. Now I'm confused.
If, for instance, you have an OEM licence for a ASUS system and you try
to install it on a Gigabyte, what happens?

--
Robin Bignall
Herts, England

You can either keep what you purchased and use it later or return it in 45 days
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/prod...nd/refund.mspx

Reinstalling your prior os after returning your Win8 o/s will require activation - online or over the phone.

What you quoted is applicable to your prior o/s after you upgrade and use Win8.
-i.e. your prior o/s can not be used or transferred, it was the qualifying o/s for the use of the upgrade version of Win8 which
came with its license and key.

What you quoted is not applicable if your return your Win8 since that Win8 will no longer be in use thus negating the previous
disqualified o/s.


--
....winston
msft mvp


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"anotherpaul" wrote in message ...

So, if the win8 overrides/kills the win7 license after installation,
would that also mean one can no longer use the win7 license after
deleting the win8 to re-install the win7...legally since the win7
could not be used?

The user can always return to their prior o/s but not via the Win8 o/s. Removing Win8 and returning to an earlier o/s (clean
install, recovery media, etc.) and activating the previous o/s and license is permitted. Activation when necessary would be
handled the same as in the past...online or over the phone.

--
...winston
msft mvp

That's not what it says on my license agreement.
I upgraded to Windows 8 Pro from Windows 7 Pro.
If I right-click Computer Properties and 'View details in Windows Activation'
there is a link to 'Read the Microsoft Software License Terms'.

There are some Q&A where it says:

"What about upgrading the software? The software covered by this agreement
is an upgrade to your existing system software, so the UPGRADE REPLACES THE
ORIGINAL SOFTWARE THAT YOU ARE UPGRADING. You do not retain any rights to the
original software after you have upgraded and you may not continue to use it
or transfer it in any way. This agreement governs your rights to use the
upgrade software and replaces the agreement for the software from which you
upgraded."

On 12/22/2012 5:19 PM, ..winston wrote:

"BillW50" wrote in message ...

And what does Microsoft say we are suppose to do with the Windows 8
Pro Upgrade ($199.99 list price) that didn't work out?

Understand what you bought and the return policy
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/prod...nd/refund.mspx

Go ahead winston... show me examples where this actually worked.
Otherwise why should I waste my time just like the many others before
that got nowhere? I must have sent in like 12 request over the decades
and nothing ever happened. Nowadays I just assume you buy everything at
your own risk (regardless of the promise of a money back guarantee). And
if it doesn't work out, at least we have the Internet to warn others. ;-)

--
Bill
Dell Latitude Slate Tablet 128GB SSD ('12 era) - Thunderbird v12
Intel Atom Z670 1.5GHz - 2GB - Windows Pro 8

On 2012-12-23, BillW50 wrote:
On 12/22/2012 5:19 PM, ..winston wrote:

"BillW50" wrote in message ...

And what does Microsoft say we are suppose to do with the Windows 8
Pro Upgrade ($199.99 list price) that didn't work out?

Understand what you bought and the return policy
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/prod...nd/refund.mspx

Go ahead winston... show me examples where this actually worked.
Otherwise why should I waste my time just like the many others before
that got nowhere? I must have sent in like 12 request over the decades
and nothing ever happened. Nowadays I just assume you buy everything at
your own risk (regardless of the promise of a money back guarantee). And
if it doesn't work out, at least we have the Internet to warn others. ;-)

Sounds like the all the dumps that I sent to m$ as per the dialogue
box regarding the "driver power failure state". The info just got
sent to the "bit bucket" at microsoft &/or no one looks at them.

On 12/22/2012 9:14 PM, anotherpaul wrote:
On 2012-12-23, wrote:
On 12/22/2012 5:19 PM, ..winston wrote:

"BillW50" wrote in message ...

And what does Microsoft say we are suppose to do with the Windows 8
Pro Upgrade ($199.99 list price) that didn't work out?

Understand what you bought and the return policy
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/prod...nd/refund.mspx

Go ahead winston... show me examples where this actually worked.
Otherwise why should I waste my time just like the many others before
that got nowhere? I must have sent in like 12 request over the decades
and nothing ever happened. Nowadays I just assume you buy everything at
your own risk (regardless of the promise of a money back guarantee). And
if it doesn't work out, at least we have the Internet to warn others. ;-)

Sounds like the all the dumps that I sent to m$ as per the dialogue
box regarding the "driver power failure state". The info just got
sent to the "bit bucket" at microsoft&/or no one looks at them.

Yes very much so. I always found Microsoft support less than impressive. :-(

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v12
Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 8