Who's fault is hardware compatibility?

r.

"JAX" wrote in message
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Two mistakes on my part, first I misspelled your name. Second, I forgot,
the OP made both statements.

Happy computing, JAX


"JAX" wrote in message
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Hi Mamniar,

Thanks for the support.

"Seems like they have falsely advertised their product when they said
(current) windows and higher."

The OP stated, "When I purchased these products, the system requirements
were windows (maybe 95) and higher."

I would interpret that to mean anything in current distribution, not to
mean anything that may possibly come in the future. Would Henry Ford have
guaranteed the wheels for his cars to fit a new Mustang? Things change,
most not so rapidly as the computer world.

Cheers, JAX

"namniar" this@that wrote in message
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"Seems like they have falsely advertised their product when they said
(current) windows and higher."

Higher at the time of manufacture - NOT at time of purchase or at ANY
time in the future.

I agree whole heartedly with JAX. When I upgraded to WinXP I new
exactly what hardware would work and what required replacement. This
information came from my own research prior to the upgrade.

r.

"JAX" wrote in message
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Hi Candace,

I have read all the other responses to your post, none of them
mentioned, MS offers you a scan of your system to see if it is XP
compatible!!! Did you do the scan and decide whether it would be worth
your time and money to go to XP?? You had the chance to stick with your
old system where your old hardware was happy, and I suppose you were
too.

Sad to say, in response to, "Who do I blame?", it's you.

JAX

"Candace" wrote in message
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I'm having a problem with 2 hardware products that XP does not
support. Is
this a windows issue? Or is this an issue of the hardware
manufacturer. When
I purchased these products, the system requirements were windows
(maybe 95)
and higher. One of the manufacturers told me the way to solve the
problem was
to put the hardware product in the trash. What should a consumer do
when they
have paid for products that they can no longer use? Hardware isn't
disposable. I take good care of these things so that I can throw them
away
when they are still in good mechanical condition? Isn't someone
responsible
to provide updated drivers? Seems like they have falsely advertised
their
product when they said (current) windows and higher. But, can the
manufacturer help that Windows XP doesn't support the old drivers? Who
do I
blame?

"Ed55" wrote in message
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Vanguard -- Show some respect! Not every person in this forum is
computer
savy and computers aren't everybodies life.
If we were all experts in this field, then there wouldn't be much need
for
this forum. -- Ed55


And how much sympathy does someone get who yanks their intake manifold
off their car engine and then hasn't a clue of how to put it back
together because they have no expertise regarding engine overhauling?
Was it the car maker's fault that the user didn't know what they were
doing? Tinkering with a spare car is different than screwing up your
only means of transportation, but screwing up either is YOUR fault.
Yeah, blame Microsoft because the user didn't know what they were doing.
The OP wanted to know who ELSE to blame for THEIR lack of expertise or
experience. The OP didn't want help. The OP wanted to whine about
inevitable obsolescence. Everyone is a newbie regarding something
related to computers. Learn and burn, move on, but don't go blaming
someone else for your mistakes or lack of experience.

We all make stupid mistakes regardless of our level of expertise. I
remember a Unix admin who changed permissions for root and locked
himself out from making any changes to the system. He shot himself in
his own foot and it wasn't the OS maker's fault for not protecting him
against committing that action. A buddy worked for a month on his
computer trying to get AGP video to work (PCI worked okay), exchanged
the motherboard, sent it in for repair (but there were no problems), and
eventually I got interested and walked over to find he hadn't pushed the
AGP video card all the way down into the AGP slot. Was it the
motherboard or AGP slot maker's fault that the user didn't push the
video card all the way into the slot? No, it was his dumbass mistake.
I restored an MBR backup (because I wanted to restore a non-standard
boostrap program) but forgot that the restore of sector 0 also replaced
the partition table so now the partitions were invalid and I had to edit
the partition tables so they pointed to the proper offsets and had the
correct partition type. Was it the hard drive or OS maker's fault that
I screwed up? No, that was my dumbass mistake. Is the market's fault
that someone who participates in that market doesn't understand the
nature of that market? Don't go blaming someone else for your lack of
experience or for your mistakes. Just slap yourself on your forehead,
say "Well, duh", admit your mistake, and decide to suffer or move on.

Obsolescence is inevitable. What manufacturer will indefinitely support
whatever they produce? I'd like to hear from the OP, or you, or anyone
else that whatever they produce they will support for their rest of
their life and so will their children and their children's children. I
didn't see evidence that the OP was forced at gunpoint to relinquish
their old and working hardware and/or software. The OP expects to
upgrade for free and do so for however long after acquiring the original
products? Get real.

My only gripe is with a company that purchases another company. They then
allow the acquired products to languish or die (note Symantec and others).

When was the last time Partition Magic was updated? It's not like they have
a competing product (as the did with Drive Image vs.: Ghost).

One of my favorite all time programs was PCTools. Symantec bought it and
killed it. I think it was miles ahead of Norton Utilities (which they also
purchased).

--

Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)


"Vanguard" no_email wrote in message
...
"Ed55" wrote in message
...
Vanguard -- Show some respect! Not every person in this forum is computer
savy and computers aren't everybodies life.
If we were all experts in this field, then there wouldn't be much need
for
this forum. -- Ed55


And how much sympathy does someone get who yanks their intake manifold off
their car engine and then hasn't a clue of how to put it back together
because they have no expertise regarding engine overhauling? Was it the
car maker's fault that the user didn't know what they were doing?
Tinkering with a spare car is different than screwing up your only means
of transportation, but screwing up either is YOUR fault. Yeah, blame
Microsoft because the user didn't know what they were doing. The OP wanted
to know who ELSE to blame for THEIR lack of expertise or experience. The
OP didn't want help. The OP wanted to whine about inevitable
obsolescence. Everyone is a newbie regarding something related to
computers. Learn and burn, move on, but don't go blaming someone else for
your mistakes or lack of experience.

We all make stupid mistakes regardless of our level of expertise. I
remember a Unix admin who changed permissions for root and locked himself
out from making any changes to the system. He shot himself in his own
foot and it wasn't the OS maker's fault for not protecting him against
committing that action. A buddy worked for a month on his computer trying
to get AGP video to work (PCI worked okay), exchanged the motherboard,
sent it in for repair (but there were no problems), and eventually I got
interested and walked over to find he hadn't pushed the AGP video card all
the way down into the AGP slot. Was it the motherboard or AGP slot
maker's fault that the user didn't push the video card all the way into
the slot? No, it was his dumbass mistake. I restored an MBR backup
(because I wanted to restore a non-standard boostrap program) but forgot
that the restore of sector 0 also replaced the partition table so now the
partitions were invalid and I had to edit the partition tables so they
pointed to the proper offsets and had the correct partition type. Was it
the hard drive or OS maker's fault that I screwed up? No, that was my
dumbass mistake. Is the market's fault that someone who participates in
that market doesn't understand the nature of that market? Don't go
blaming someone else for your lack of experience or for your mistakes.
Just slap yourself on your forehead, say "Well, duh", admit your mistake,
and decide to suffer or move on.

Obsolescence is inevitable. What manufacturer will indefinitely support
whatever they produce? I'd like to hear from the OP, or you, or anyone
else that whatever they produce they will support for their rest of their
life and so will their children and their children's children. I didn't
see evidence that the OP was forced at gunpoint to relinquish their old
and working hardware and/or software. The OP expects to upgrade for free
and do so for however long after acquiring the original products? Get
real.

One of my favorite all time programs was PCTools. Symantec bought it and
killed it. I think it was miles ahead of Norton Utilities (which they also
purchased).


I'd second that

"Richard Urban" wrote in message
...
My only gripe is with a company that purchases another company. They
then allow the acquired products to languish or die (note Symantec and
others).

When was the last time Partition Magic was updated? It's not like they
have a competing product (as the did with Drive Image vs.: Ghost).

One of my favorite all time programs was PCTools. Symantec bought it
and killed it. I think it was miles ahead of Norton Utilities (which
they also purchased).


Symantec is a software PUBLISHER, not a software developer. When have
they ever developed a product that they market? They buy it and then
market it. PC Tools disappeared one year after Symantec bought it (to
get rid of the competition against Norton Utilities that they bought 4
years earlier). They bought Winfax from Delrina. Their firewall they
got from Axent. Their antivirus product was purchased from IBM. They
got Ghost from Binary Research Ltd. Remember Quarterdeck (yep, eaten up
by Symantec).

Symantec's big push now is buying up the security industry: Safeweb,
@stake, On Tech (or some name like that), Brightmail, TurnTide,
SecurityFocus, and more. Symantec is the Pac Man of software
publishers. Chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp.

Vanguard wrote:
"Richard Urban" wrote in message
...
My only gripe is with a company that purchases another company. They
then allow the acquired products to languish or die (note Symantec
and others).

When was the last time Partition Magic was updated? It's not like
they have a competing product (as the did with Drive Image vs.:
Ghost). One of my favorite all time programs was PCTools. Symantec bought
it
and killed it. I think it was miles ahead of Norton Utilities (which
they also purchased).


Symantec is a software PUBLISHER, not a software developer. When have
they ever developed a product that they market? They buy it and then
market it. PC Tools disappeared one year after Symantec bought it (to
get rid of the competition against Norton Utilities that they bought 4
years earlier). They bought Winfax from Delrina. Their firewall they
got from Axent. Their antivirus product was purchased from IBM. They
got Ghost from Binary Research Ltd. Remember Quarterdeck (yep, eaten
up by Symantec).

Symantec's big push now is buying up the security industry: Safeweb,
@stake, On Tech (or some name like that), Brightmail, TurnTide,
SecurityFocus, and more. Symantec is the Pac Man of software
publishers. Chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp.


Symantec is to utilities what EA Games is to games developers and MS is to
just about everything.
--
Facon - the artificial bacon bits you get in Pizza Hut for sprinkling
on salads.

"Miss Perspicacia Tick" wrote:



Symantec is to utilities what EA Games is to games developers and MS is to
just about everything.

Not quite.

Both EA Games and Microsoft actually do develop some new products on
their own. Symantec never does.


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."