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I have an old HP color inkjet. It works reasonably well when it
works, my problem is that it can be several months between printing out a page or two, so when I want to use it, it doesn't want to work. It just isn't worth the hassle of cleaning ink cartridges just to print out a page or two, but I do still need a printer.... What technology is superior in that respect - long time between uses. I don't care for color, BW is what I need for electrical engineering drawings - lines and symbols with a word or two. Has to work with Linux and Windows XP. |
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default wrote:
I have an old HP color inkjet. It works reasonably well when it works, my problem is that it can be several months between printing out a page or two, so when I want to use it, it doesn't want to work. It just isn't worth the hassle of cleaning ink cartridges just to print out a page or two, but I do still need a printer.... What technology is superior in that respect - long time between uses. I don't care for color, BW is what I need for electrical engineering drawings - lines and symbols with a word or two. Has to work with Linux and Windows XP. Laser. Lasts for ever and never dries out. I have an old Brother MFC-7220 b&w that I use for XP and 7. Have not tried it with Linux though. |
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On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 18:24:31 -0400, default
wrote: I have an old HP color inkjet. It works reasonably well when it works, my problem is that it can be several months between printing out a page or two, so when I want to use it, it doesn't want to work. It just isn't worth the hassle of cleaning ink cartridges just to print out a page or two, but I do still need a printer.... What technology is superior in that respect - long time between uses. I don't care for color, BW is what I need for electrical engineering drawings - lines and symbols with a word or two. Has to work with Linux and Windows XP. Laser is the way to go. |
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On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 17:39:06 -0500, Paul in Houston TX
wrote: default wrote: I have an old HP color inkjet. It works reasonably well when it works, my problem is that it can be several months between printing out a page or two, so when I want to use it, it doesn't want to work. It just isn't worth the hassle of cleaning ink cartridges just to print out a page or two, but I do still need a printer.... What technology is superior in that respect - long time between uses. I don't care for color, BW is what I need for electrical engineering drawings - lines and symbols with a word or two. Has to work with Linux and Windows XP. Laser. Lasts for ever and never dries out. I have an old Brother MFC-7220 b&w that I use for XP and 7. Have not tried it with Linux though. I've found this one Brother HL-L2300D Monochrome Laser. Looks like it has drivers for Linux and XP to Windows 10. |
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default wrote:
I have an old HP color inkjet. It works reasonably well when it works, my problem is that it can be several months between printing out a page or two, so when I want to use it, it doesn't want to work. It just isn't worth the hassle of cleaning ink cartridges just to print out a page or two, but I do still need a printer.... What technology is superior in that respect - long time between uses. I don't care for color, BW is what I need for electrical engineering drawings - lines and symbols with a word or two. Has to work with Linux and Windows XP. As most others have already pointed out, Laser is the way to go. AFAIK, the *only* way to go! I won't even consider an ink jet, for the reasons you've mentioned, plus some. The *only* disadvantage of an affordable laser printer is it's just black and white, unless you want to spend the big bucks. I mean, think about it - getting around 1000 or more pages per toner cartridge is a pretty good deal. The toner cartridges aren't cheap, but they last so long it makes it worth it. And you don't have to worry about ink pens drying out, or bleeding on the pages, etc, etc. Some of the (typically older) laser printers will still work on WinXP. Just be sure to check that out in the specs before you buy, because not all laser printers will, anymore. |
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On 16/04/2019 23:24, default wrote:
I have an old HP color inkjet. It works reasonably well when it works, my problem is that it can be several months between printing out a page or two, so when I want to use it, it doesn't want to work. If all you are doing is to print a page or two every two months then clearly you don't need any printer and instead you could copy the document on to a flash drive and take it to your local library or to a nearest shop (or to your friends if you have any but most people these days aren't talking to their neighbours!!! either) that does printing and let them charge you 10 cents per copy. It is much cheaper that way then to have a monster in your house and. All printers are the same. If your current printer is giving you problems then there is no guarantee new printer won't give you the same problems. Path: news.mixmin.net!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.net cologne.de!peer02.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xl ned.com!peer01.am4!peer.am4.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!fx11.am4.POSTED!not-for-mail From: default Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general Subject: Printer Questions Message-ID: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 11 X-Complaints-To: http://abuse.usenetxs.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 22:24:32 UTC Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 18:24:31 -0400 X-Received-Bytes: 1195 X-Received-Body-CRC: 3442383663 Xref: news.mixmin.net microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:334763 you must have run out of nym-shifting as you have changed it several times last week!!! -- With over 950 million devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
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Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Laser. Lasts for ever and never dries out. Toner doesn't have solvent as do inks. However, there is a binder (polymer) coating the powder which is what makes the powder stick to the paper when applied with heat. There is also a lubricant to keep the granules from sticking together, the lack of which causes more noise and streaking. Toners do expire but, so far, users have shown the actual expiration is many years after the printed expiration. After unsealing the toner cartridge and using in high humidity, the powder can cake up. Refilled cartridges are more susceptible to humidity, especially since the "plant" isn't as dry during manufacture. Users tend to print in a few areas of the page the most, and there is no agitator inside the toner cartridge to redistribute the powder. When contrast become irregular, take out the toner cartridge and tilt it side to side several times to redistribute the powder. Users think the toner got used up when, in fact, there is still lots of powder inside but not in the section where they print the most. |
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On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 5:24:35 PM UTC-5, default wrote:
I have an old HP color inkjet. It works reasonably well when it works, my problem is that it can be several months between printing out a page or two, so when I want to use it, it doesn't want to work. It just isn't worth the hassle of cleaning ink cartridges just to print out a page or two, but I do still need a printer.... What technology is superior in that respect - long time between uses. I don't care for color, BW is what I need for electrical engineering drawings - lines and symbols with a word or two. Has to work with Linux and Windows XP. Get a b/w laser that is refillable. My Brother HL 2240 is. Andy |
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On 17/04/2019 02:35, AK wrote:
Get a b/w laser that is refillable. My Brother HL 2240 is. You are also the village idiot here so do you want the OP to copy you? Must be many in Dickinson, Texas like you!! -- With over 950 million devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
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In message , AK
writes: [] Get a b/w laser Agreed. that is refillable. What do you mean by refillable? [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf I don't see the requirement to upset people. ... There's enough to make fun of without offending. - Ronnie Corbett, in Radio Times 6-12 August 2011. |
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default,
What technology is superior in that respect Pretty-much /any/ other. :-( BW is what I need for electrical engineering drawings - lines and symbols with a word or two. I still have an impact printer here (Epson LQ 400, 24 needles) which, after having not absolutily nothing for more than a decade, printed away as if it was used just yesterday. It looked a bit faded though. Maybe I should find me a new ribbon ... The only thing "wrong" with it is that expectations have changed, and its prints are not considered acceptable anymore. In comparision my Brother HL 14 laser printer started, after just a year or two of not being used, putting a gray/black film over what it printed (still using its origional cartridge), often causing it to become illegible. Shaking the cartrige up didn't help, so I probably will have to buy a new one (IOW: Not much different than for a inktjet, though it takes quite a bit longer to arrive there) Regards, Rudy Wieser |
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In message , R.Wieser
writes: default, What technology is superior in that respect Pretty-much /any/ other. :-( BW is what I need for electrical engineering drawings - lines and symbols with a word or two. I still have an impact printer here (Epson LQ 400, 24 needles) which, after having not absolutily nothing for more than a decade, printed away as if it That's reassuring to know! was used just yesterday. It looked a bit faded though. Maybe I should find me a new ribbon ... If you examine the ribbon cartridge, in most cases you can prise the top off carefully: there are often even screwdriver slots to help you! Once you've done that (be careful the tightly-packed ribbon inside doesn't pop out), a few drops - literally - of stamp-pad ink, left to soak in and perhaps the ribbon run through a few times, will rejuventate it considerably. (You can even use other than black, if you don't mind printing in blue, red, or whatever!). The most difficult thing used to be using too much ink; it's literally drops. (If you use too much it's not catastrophic - you just need to print until the excess is used up.) Nowadays it might be finding the ink; you want a good runny sort, not the waxy sort sometimes sold for stamps. (Maybe other sorts of ink, such as fountain pen ink; I'm not sure you can get stamp pad ink now, as I think people use throwaway pads.) The only thing "wrong" with it is that expectations have changed, and its prints are not considered acceptable anymore. I think once the ink is rejuvenated so it gives a good contrast, you'd be surprised! Other than being monochrome, the quality - especially from a 24-pin - is surprisingly good, as long as you don't have any images or coloured logos. In comparision my Brother HL 14 laser printer started, after just a year or two of not being used, putting a gray/black film over what it printed (still using its origional cartridge), often causing it to become illegible. That's depressing. Shaking the cartrige up didn't help, so I probably will have to buy a new one (IOW: Not much different than for a inktjet, though it takes quite a bit longer to arrive there) )-: Regards, Rudy Wieser John -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf If you want to make people angry, lie to them. If you want to make them absolutely livid, then tell 'em the truth. |
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On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 8:43:06 PM UTC-5, 😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
On 17/04/2019 02:35, AK wrote: Get a b/w laser that is refillable. My Brother HL 2240 is. You are also the village idiot here so do you want the OP to copy you? Must be many in Dickinson, Texas like you!! -- With over 950 million devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. Maybe one of these days you will grow up. |
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On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 06:42:25 -0700 (PDT), AK
wrote: On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 8:43:06 PM UTC-5, ? Good Guy ? wrote: On 17/04/2019 02:35, AK wrote: Get a b/w laser that is refillable. My Brother HL 2240 is. You are also the village idiot here so do you want the OP to copy you? Must be many in Dickinson, Texas like you!! -- With over 950 million devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. Maybe one of these days you will grow up. Don't hold your breath. Growth is not part of his agenda. |
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John,
after having not absolutily nothing for more than a decade, printed away as if it was used just yesterday. That's reassuring to know! It was not cheap when I bought it, but than again I wanted a printer that would survive my thanwhile C64 and be usable on other, later computers too. And boy, that he certainly did make true. :-) Once you've done that (be careful the tightly-packed ribbon inside doesn't pop out), a few drops - literally - of stamp-pad ink, left to soak in and perhaps the ribbon run through a few times, will rejuventate it considerably. I've still got some super-black, non-fading ink (calligraphy if I'm not mistaken), which might be perfect for the job. I'll have to try it. Just a few drops you say ? That should not be a problem. .... and I just saw that I've still got the old "cartridge" (30 or so cm wide) too, so I've got something to experiment on. Thanks for reminding me. after just a year or two of not being used, putting a gray/black film over what it printed, often causing it to become illegible. That's depressing. Yep. I thought I had understood that that wouldn't happen with laser printers, and was rathed disappointed when it did. And I said a year or two ? Thinking back it might well be a couple of years more than that. Still, I didn't expect that to happen with a dry powder ... Regards, Rudy Wieser |
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