Rules about copies of XP?

Leythos wrote:
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 17:42:14 -0500, kurttrail wrote:

kurttrail wrote:
Leythos wrote:
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 15:11:17 -0500, Tom wrote:


"Leythos" wrote in message
news On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 11:50:11 -0500, kurttrail wrote:

Because I make too much sense to just ignore me.

So did many others that lead people down the wrong path.

You sound like Microsoft Jesus!

And you sound like Kurt

I would have combined it into one word, and I wouldn't compare you
to Jesus. He was a cool dude.

MicroFalwell, would be more fitting, in my eyes, since you both
preach a false doctrine, trying to lead the righteous astray.

Falwell, like you, preaches conformity, and Jesus like, me, taught
that the leaders of his time were corrupt and full of greed.

But Jesus also asked people to follow blindly and to conform and
created a couple leaders also - seems no different to me.

No, Jesus said "follow me and I make you fishers of men."

Falwell
uses those doctrines to rip-people off (IMHO) as do you.

ROFL! I don't rip people off! I am try to help them not get ripped off
by a proven corporate criminal, Microsoft! Predatory Monopolist, and
both Patent & Copyright infringer! MS is the PROVEN intellectual
property thief! And not one of their private non-commercial paying
customers has EVER been charge with infringement for installing the same
copy of software on more than one computer, let alone been proven guilty
of infringement!

MS is the PROVEN THIEF, not its private non-commercial individual
customers!

PMSL! You are the one that is on the side of the thief!

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"Leythos" wrote in message
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On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 15:11:17 -0500, Tom wrote:


"Leythos" wrote in message
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On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 11:50:11 -0500, kurttrail wrote:

Because I make too much sense to just ignore me.

So did many others that lead people down the wrong path.

You sound like Microsoft Jesus!

And you sound like Kurt

How do you know what kurt sounds like? I hear myself talk, and never thought
of myself sounding like another I have never heard speak before. See what
following false doctrines and religions can do to the mind!

Leythos wrote:
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 17:49:50 -0500, kurttrail wrote:

And the funny thing is, is you can't prove it isn't valid! You can
only state it, as if it were the truth.

Funny thing is that since it's only your OPINION, it's worth about as
much as the type on this screen. Since your OPINION doesn't do
anything for anyone, it doesn't really matter. I can state what MS
licensing terms and conditions are, you can only state an Opinion,
that many disagree with.

What I state about how "Fair Use" works in not my opinion, it is a fact.
My interpretation of "fair use" is valid unless the copyright owner
disagrees with me and wins in a court of law. That is a FACT.

I've given you the link to Stanford U's quote plenty of times. I believe
I even gave to you earlier in this thread, but you snipped it from your
reply like it didn't exist.

Almost makes you look like the Reverend Jim Baker.

My grandparents were one of the suckers he ripped off. He is just
another proven thief, just like MS!

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Leythos wrote:
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 15:11:17 -0500, Tom wrote:


"Leythos" wrote in message
news On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 11:50:11 -0500, kurttrail wrote:

Because I make too much sense to just ignore me.

So did many others that lead people down the wrong path.

You sound like Microsoft Jesus!

And you sound like Kurt

I would have combined it into one word, and I wouldn't compare you to
Jesus. He was a cool dude.

Well, I don't know if he was cool, unless you believe (all good) in what was
written about him. To me, he was no more than a revolutionary changing up
the belief systems of Judaism back then, which then resulted in an offshoot
of Judaism (which was greatly influenced by Zoroastrianism). If all the
words attributed to him are true, of which some of those words are cruel, I
wouldn't say he was all that cool.

Leythos wrote:
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 17:57:37 -0500, kurttrail wrote:

I don't rip people off! I am try to help them not get ripped off

But the actions you advocate may one day be proven as Illegal,

A snowballs chance in hell it will ever happen after all this time has
passed.

It is more likely that the corporate copyright elite will buy off
Congress to rewrite the limitations placed on copyright owners under
copyright law. But that wouldn't make the "fair use" protection we have
today illegal until after the the changed Copyright Law signed into law.

and
anyone not following your BS will not have to worry about it.

LOL! Who is worrying about it now? MS has been proven to be a total
chickensh*t when it comes down to it. That's why they introduced PA to
use behavior modification, instead of REAL proof.

Those
following your BS will have to pay for the licenses they didn't own
or risk legal action - if this went to court.

FUD! MS has no right to know what you do in your home, and has no way
to know what hardware you are running XP on. Please tell us, what is
there to really worry about?

Active defiance of an agreement and it's intent does not make it
righteous or proper or legal - you're much like the PETA people.

South Park killed off the members of PETA.

And standing up for one's own rights in the face of corporate tyranny is
righteous.

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Tom wrote:
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Leythos wrote:
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 15:11:17 -0500, Tom wrote:


"Leythos" wrote in message
news On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 11:50:11 -0500, kurttrail wrote:

Because I make too much sense to just ignore me.

So did many others that lead people down the wrong path.

You sound like Microsoft Jesus!

And you sound like Kurt

I would have combined it into one word, and I wouldn't compare you to
Jesus. He was a cool dude.

Well, I don't know if he was cool, unless you believe (all good) in
what was written about him. To me, he was no more than a
revolutionary changing up the belief systems of Judaism back then,
which then resulted in an offshoot of Judaism (which was greatly
influenced by Zoroastrianism). If all the words attributed to him are
true, of which some of those words are cruel, I wouldn't say he was
all that cool.

Most of the cruel words in the New Testament are the authors especially
Saul of Tarsus, not his. Jesus stood up to the religious leaders of his
time, and basically preached a gospel of love. He hung out with the
poor, the sick, the prostitutes.

He was not "God," but he was a pretty cool dude, in much the same way as
Gandhi.

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Leythos wrote:
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 18:19:29 -0500, Tom wrote:

To me, he was no more than a revolutionary changing up the belief
systems of Judaism

Which was found to be illegal in the court system back then and that
got him killed for it - almost sounds like Kurt wants to advocate
starting a revolution so that he can die for his cause so that his
Name will live forever. Wait, I think that's what Usenet Trolls want
too - Ha Ha Ha.

LOL! I could care less about my name. If I did, I wouldn't have decide
long ago not to have kids.

And I don't have any desire to start a revolution. MS, and its fellow
members of the BSA Junta, declared war on our "fair use" long ago.

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"Leythos" wrote in message
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On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 17:57:37 -0500, kurttrail wrote:

I don't rip people off! I am try to help them not get ripped off

But the actions you advocate may one day be proven as Illegal, and anyone
not following your BS will not have to worry about it. Those following
your BS will have to pay for the licenses they didn't own or risk legal
action - if this went to court.

Not true, is MS ever got the balls to sue for their EULA rights (after they
have it properly worded to mean what they want), the only thing the end user
will have to worry about, is a court order to remove additional install that
were not paid for. Since it would have been taken to court for proof of the
validity of their licensing terms for the first time, the court would have
to let the end user know of the new law pertaining to such rights of the
copyright owner.

Active defiance of an agreement and it's intent does not make it righteous
or proper or legal - you're much like the PETA people.

Really, PETA has some good qualities about them, though I disagree with some
of their tactics. But disagreeing with terms that are not listed in the EULA
as such as MS makes the claims to their rights as owner of the software,
gives me plenty of right to defy them. If they don't like it, they can take
it to court, but you have never heard them take one person to task over
this, and you know why; because they don't have a hope in hell, with the way
the terms are worded as such as they are now. Especially since your non-EULA
MS OEM website makes a claim to what part of that EULA is supposed to mean
to MS, but not listed not mentioned in the actual agreement (Contract).


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Leythos wrote:
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 18:13:12 -0500, Tom wrote:


"Leythos" wrote in message
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On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 15:11:17 -0500, Tom wrote:


"Leythos" wrote in message
news On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 11:50:11 -0500, kurttrail wrote:

Because I make too much sense to just ignore me.

So did many others that lead people down the wrong path.

You sound like Microsoft Jesus!

And you sound like Kurt

How do you know what kurt sounds like? I hear myself talk, and never
thought of myself sounding like another I have never heard speak
before. See what following false doctrines and religions can do to
the mind!

Seemed obvious to me, maybe you need to spend more time learning to
read english? Heck, you even typed almost the same thing, are you
telling me you hear voices and have been at one of my lectures so
that you would know my voice?

Lamethos: "So did many others that lead people down the wrong path."

Kurt replied first: "Like our Founding Fathers? Because when it comes
down to it, I advocate much the same philosophy as they did, the rights
of the individual against the arbitrary abuses of those with power."

Tom replied second: "You sound like Microsoft Jesus!"

Lameboy replied to Tom: "And you sound like Kurt.

Please explain to us how what I and Tom typed in reply to you is "almost
the same thing."

Your psychosomatic-induced delusions are working overtime tonight!

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"Leythos" wrote in message
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On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 18:13:12 -0500, Tom wrote:


"Leythos" wrote in message
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On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 15:11:17 -0500, Tom wrote:


"Leythos" wrote in message
news On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 11:50:11 -0500, kurttrail wrote:

Because I make too much sense to just ignore me.

So did many others that lead people down the wrong path.

You sound like Microsoft Jesus!

And you sound like Kurt

How do you know what kurt sounds like? I hear myself talk, and never
thought
of myself sounding like another I have never heard speak before. See what
following false doctrines and religions can do to the mind!

Seemed obvious to me, maybe you need to spend more time learning to read
english? Heck, you even typed almost the same thing, are you telling me
you hear voices and have been at one of my lectures so that you would know
my voice?

No, but you just proved that not only do you think words sound like other
people talk, but also that you absolutely have no reading comprehension
skills!

Leythos wrote:
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 18:18:18 -0500, kurttrail wrote:

Leythos wrote:
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 17:49:50 -0500, kurttrail wrote:

And the funny thing is, is you can't prove it isn't valid! You can
only state it, as if it were the truth.

Funny thing is that since it's only your OPINION, it's worth about
as much as the type on this screen. Since your OPINION doesn't do
anything for anyone, it doesn't really matter. I can state what MS
licensing terms and conditions are, you can only state an Opinion,
that many disagree with.

What I state about how "Fair Use" works in not my opinion, it is a
fact. My interpretation of "fair use" is valid unless the copyright
owner disagrees with me and wins in a court of law. That is a FACT.

I agree, the FACT part is that it's still just your OPINION OF HOW IT
WORKS, and that's the problem, others don't agree with your opinion.
Until it's proven in a court case your are just spouting an opinion
that holds about as much water as this type.

"Unfortunately, if the copyright owner disagrees with your fair use
interpretation, the dispute will have to be resolved by courts or
arbitration. If it's not a fair use, then you are infringing upon the
rights of the copyright owner and may be liable for damages." -
http://fairuse.stanford.edu/Copyrigh...er9/index.html

Are you saying that is not a fact?


I've given you the link to Stanford U's quote plenty of times. I
believe I even gave to you earlier in this thread, but you snipped
it from your reply like it didn't exist.

Yep, read it, snipped it because there was no need to clutter the
display since I was not commenting on it - it's your drivel that I
was commenting on and how you have the Pat Baker approach.

Who is Pat Baker? And what does this person have to so with the fact
that my interpretation of "fair use" is perfectly valid unless the
copyright owner disagrees and wins?


Almost makes you look like the Reverend Jim Baker.

My grandparents were one of the suckers he ripped off. He is just
another proven thief, just like MS!

Yea he is, spouting his OPINION and getting people in trouble, much
like they might if they listen to your OPINION as though it's some
form of legal right.

Huh? Jim Baker has a conman that took money from old people. I don't
take money at all, nor do I ever solicit donations.

Baker is a proven thief, and so is MS. I have NEVER been proven to have
stolen anything.

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I live in Australia. We wrote our constitution a little after YOUR =
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war. We won't be having mass slaughter in Australia. Also everyone =
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David Candy wrote:
I live in Australia. We wrote our constitution a little after YOUR
civil war. We won't be having mass slaughter in Australia. Also
everyone votes and no votes are wasted. EG. In your terms if I voted
Nader I could preference Bush second. If Nader doesn't get enough
votes to be first or second in the count my Nader vote goes to Bush
(though most presdential systems (but yours) have multi round voting
to cope with this). To change our constitution requires 50% of the
voters (everyone over 18) +1 AND 50% +1 in a majority of states. And
lastly we vote for teams not one individual (I find that really
bizarre).

So there are some better ways.
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Are you trying to convert me?
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Leythos wrote:
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 18:56:50 -0500, kurttrail wrote:

Jim Baker has a conman that took money from old people. I don't
take money at all, nor do I ever solicit donations.

And your mantra sounds like one of those types to me.

ROFL! You are totally effin' insane! I am the one preaching for people
to keep their money, not trying to take any away from them, like Baker
and MS!

I'm the anti-conman. Baker and MS prey on the suckers of this world.
Both are proven thieves. I have NEVER been charged with, let alone
proven to be a thief.

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you two really should just get a room . preferably a padded one ;-P