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  #1  
Old February 14th 15, 03:24 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Big_Al[_4_]
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Default Auto Logon WIndows 8.1 will not work now.

Windows 8.1 64bit
I loaded my PC in Nov 2014 and set the auto login with netplwiz and it worked great. Month or so goes by and it stops.
No matter what I do, regedit or netplwiz and any other google suggestion other than loading some 3rd party util (which
I didn't), it just won't work.

So I reloaded a older backup image of the C: drive and now everything works again. Just had to reset all my data and
update programs etc. So after an 8 hour day of updates I'm done.

Dang if I didn't do it again. It won't autologin and I know why. I did a logoff rather than shutdown and then of
course I get the login screen and have to enter the password. From this point on, the auto login fails.

Has anyone found a fix for this. I'd love to fix it rather than go back and reload an image again. I've done so
much cleanup (minor stuff) that it would be so much easier to fix it.

Al.
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Old February 14th 15, 06:24 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Big_Al[_4_]
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Default Auto Logon WIndows 8.1 will not work now.

Stormin' Norman wrote on 2/14/2015 9:44 AM:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 09:24:39 -0500, Big_Al wrote:

Windows 8.1 64bit
I loaded my PC in Nov 2014 and set the auto login with netplwiz and it worked great. Month or so goes by and it stops.
No matter what I do, regedit or netplwiz and any other google suggestion other than loading some 3rd party util (which
I didn't), it just won't work.

So I reloaded a older backup image of the C: drive and now everything works again. Just had to reset all my data and
update programs etc. So after an 8 hour day of updates I'm done.

Dang if I didn't do it again. It won't autologin and I know why. I did a logoff rather than shutdown and then of
course I get the login screen and have to enter the password. From this point on, the auto login fails.

Has anyone found a fix for this. I'd love to fix it rather than go back and reload an image again. I've done so
much cleanup (minor stuff) that it would be so much easier to fix it.

Al.


Did you examine your event logs for clues? Any errors or warnings?

Is this a home machine or is it a member of a work domain? If a domain, your
domain administrator can disable your ability to have your machine auto-logon.

Lastly, take a look at this article, it might provide some assistance:

http://www.computerperformance.co.uk...n-registry.htm

Personal home PC Windows 8.1 pro. I'm admin and only user. Local network,
I've seen that link and it just repeats the same stuff I've read all over the place.
Since I posted this thread I've reloaded back one image and subsequently reset all my data and programs. AND DID A NEW
IMAGE. :-)
I just checked those registry settings and the password entry is not there, but the login works because I set it
originally with the netplwiz advanced users setting. This raises a red flag in my mind... if everyone is pointing to
this registry entry area to fix the issue, and I don't have all those fields yet it works, then what is what? Things
don't jive. Oh yea, every time I create that password field and fill it in, and reboot, the field is gone in the
registry.

I don't have the event logs now since I reloaded but if it happens again, I'll remember to check.
I'm going to export that Winlogon registry settings and save it for compare purposes if this ever comes back. I'm in no
hurry to create the issue again, but.....

I was kinda hoping to hear from someone that actually had the problem. I've spent too many hours on this and I'm
looking for some fix beyond the standard (if you can call them that) procedures.

Thanks for the event log hint.

  #3  
Old February 14th 15, 08:04 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Auto Logon WIndows 8.1 will not work now.

On 14/02/2015 14:24, Big_Al wrote:
Windows 8.1 64bit
I loaded my PC in Nov 2014 and set the auto login with netplwiz and it worked great. Month or so goes by and it stops.
No matter what I do, regedit or netplwiz and any other google suggestion other than loading some 3rd party util (which
I didn't), it just won't work.

So I reloaded a older backup image of the C: drive and now everything works again. Just had to reset all my data and
update programs etc. So after an 8 hour day of updates I'm done.

Dang if I didn't do it again. It won't autologin and I know why. I did a logoff rather than shutdown and then of
course I get the login screen and have to enter the password. From this point on, the auto login fails.

Has anyone found a fix for this. I'd love to fix it rather than go back and reload an image again. I've done so
much cleanup (minor stuff) that it would be so much easier to fix it.

Al.


Why do you need third party tool when you can do it within the Windows
system itself? Third party tools, no matter where they are from, are a
security risk.

Anyway, try this official link:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-vista/turn-on-automatic-logon

Good luck.



  #4  
Old February 14th 15, 08:15 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Big_Al[_4_]
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Default Auto Logon WIndows 8.1 will not work now.

Good Guy wrote on 2/14/2015 2:04 PM:
On 14/02/2015 14:24, Big_Al wrote:
Windows 8.1 64bit
I loaded my PC in Nov 2014 and set the auto login with netplwiz and it worked great. Month or so goes by and it stops.
No matter what I do, regedit or netplwiz and any other google suggestion other than loading some 3rd party util (which
I didn't), it just won't work.

So I reloaded a older backup image of the C: drive and now everything works again. Just had to reset all my data and
update programs etc. So after an 8 hour day of updates I'm done.

Dang if I didn't do it again. It won't autologin and I know why. I did a logoff rather than shutdown and then of
course I get the login screen and have to enter the password. From this point on, the auto login fails.

Has anyone found a fix for this. I'd love to fix it rather than go back and reload an image again. I've done so
much cleanup (minor stuff) that it would be so much easier to fix it.

Al.


Why do you need third party tool when you can do it within the Windows system itself? Third party tools, no matter
where they are from, are a security risk.

Anyway, try this official link:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-vista/turn-on-automatic-logon

Good luck.


Yes, I've done that. netplwiz is control userpasswords2. Sameo sameo. give it a try one day.

  #5  
Old February 14th 15, 09:04 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Auto Logon WIndows 8.1 will not work now.

Big_Al wrote:
Good Guy wrote on 2/14/2015 2:04 PM:
On 14/02/2015 14:24, Big_Al wrote:
Windows 8.1 64bit
I loaded my PC in Nov 2014 and set the auto login with netplwiz and it worked great. Month or so goes by and it stops.
No matter what I do, regedit or netplwiz and any other google suggestion other than loading some 3rd party util (which
I didn't), it just won't work.

So I reloaded a older backup image of the C: drive and now everything works again. Just had to reset all my data and
update programs etc. So after an 8 hour day of updates I'm done.

Dang if I didn't do it again. It won't autologin and I know why. I did a logoff rather than shutdown and then of
course I get the login screen and have to enter the password. From this point on, the auto login fails.

Has anyone found a fix for this. I'd love to fix it rather than go back and reload an image again. I've done so
much cleanup (minor stuff) that it would be so much easier to fix it.

Al.

Why do you need third party tool when you can do it within the Windows system itself? Third party tools, no matter
where they are from, are a security risk.

Anyway, try this official link:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-vista/turn-on-automatic-logon

Good luck.


Yes, I've done that. netplwiz is control userpasswords2. Sameo sameo. give it a try one day.


Have you worked through a tutorial like this one ?

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...8-startup.html

And the nice thing about a tutorial like that, is everybody who has
the feature busted, is going to show up there in the Comment section :-)
At least one user, did a fresh install to try to fix it.
And it broke again.

Paul
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Old February 15th 15, 08:34 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Big_Al[_4_]
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Default Auto Logon WIndows 8.1 will not work now.

Paul wrote on 2/14/2015 3:04 PM:
Big_Al wrote:
Good Guy wrote on 2/14/2015 2:04 PM:
On 14/02/2015 14:24, Big_Al wrote:
Windows 8.1 64bit
I loaded my PC in Nov 2014 and set the auto login with netplwiz and it worked great. Month or so goes by and it stops.
No matter what I do, regedit or netplwiz and any other google suggestion other than loading some 3rd party util (which
I didn't), it just won't work.

So I reloaded a older backup image of the C: drive and now everything works again. Just had to reset all my data and
update programs etc. So after an 8 hour day of updates I'm done.

Dang if I didn't do it again. It won't autologin and I know why. I did a logoff rather than shutdown and then of
course I get the login screen and have to enter the password. From this point on, the auto login fails.

Has anyone found a fix for this. I'd love to fix it rather than go back and reload an image again. I've done so
much cleanup (minor stuff) that it would be so much easier to fix it.

Al.
Why do you need third party tool when you can do it within the Windows system itself? Third party tools, no matter
where they are from, are a security risk.

Anyway, try this official link:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-vista/turn-on-automatic-logon

Good luck.


Yes, I've done that. netplwiz is control userpasswords2. Sameo sameo. give it a try one day.


Have you worked through a tutorial like this one ?

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...8-startup.html

And the nice thing about a tutorial like that, is everybody who has
the feature busted, is going to show up there in the Comment section :-)
At least one user, did a fresh install to try to fix it.
And it broke again.

Paul

Yep. This is the SOP for doing it. Those screen shots with unchecking the box is netplwiz and supposedly changes
those registry entries, if all is working right.
And I did a restore of a valid working image and I broke it too. I think it was doing a logout after a ctl-alt-del to
get out of what seemed like an endless loop error in a program.
But I've since restored a slightly earlier image and have reloaded everything and I'm totally restored and reset and
tweaked now and all is quite happy. And YES, I'm not going to do a logoff again!. Not without a reset point or image!!


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Old February 16th 15, 12:16 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Auto Logon WIndows 8.1 will not work now.



"Big_Al" wrote in message
...
Paul wrote on 2/14/2015 3:04 PM:
Big_Al wrote:
Good Guy wrote on 2/14/2015 2:04 PM:
On 14/02/2015 14:24, Big_Al wrote:
Windows 8.1 64bit
I loaded my PC in Nov 2014 and set the auto login with netplwiz and it
worked great. Month or so goes by and it stops.
No matter what I do, regedit or netplwiz and any other google
suggestion other than loading some 3rd party util (which
I didn't), it just won't work.

So I reloaded a older backup image of the C: drive and now everything
works again. Just had to reset all my data and
update programs etc. So after an 8 hour day of updates I'm done.

Dang if I didn't do it again. It won't autologin and I know why. I
did a logoff rather than shutdown and then of
course I get the login screen and have to enter the password. From
this point on, the auto login fails.

Has anyone found a fix for this. I'd love to fix it rather than go
back and reload an image again. I've done so
much cleanup (minor stuff) that it would be so much easier to fix it.

Al.
Why do you need third party tool when you can do it within the Windows
system itself? Third party tools, no matter
where they are from, are a security risk.

Anyway, try this official link:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-vista/turn-on-automatic-logon

Good luck.


Yes, I've done that. netplwiz is control userpasswords2. Sameo
sameo. give it a try one day.


Have you worked through a tutorial like this one ?

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...8-startup.html

And the nice thing about a tutorial like that, is everybody who has
the feature busted, is going to show up there in the Comment section :-)
At least one user, did a fresh install to try to fix it.
And it broke again.

Paul

Yep. This is the SOP for doing it. Those screen shots with unchecking
the box is netplwiz and supposedly changes
those registry entries, if all is working right.
And I did a restore of a valid working image and I broke it too. I think
it was doing a logout after a ctl-alt-del to
get out of what seemed like an endless loop error in a program.
But I've since restored a slightly earlier image and have reloaded
everything and I'm totally restored and reset and
tweaked now and all is quite happy. And YES, I'm not going to do a
logoff again!. Not without a reset point or image!!


I don't know why logging off would affect that. I tried it, and after
logging back in manually, it auto-logged after a reboot. This worked on both
Win7 and Win8.1.
I think you have something weird going on with your setup/software/whatever,
and I hope you figure it out before it screws up again.
Sorry I couldn't help last time, and I have nothing new for you this time
:-(
Good luck with it :-)
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Old February 16th 15, 02:35 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Big_Al[_4_]
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Default Auto Logon WIndows 8.1 will not work now.

SC Tom wrote on 2/15/2015 6:16 PM:


"Big_Al" wrote in message
...
Paul wrote on 2/14/2015 3:04 PM:
Big_Al wrote:
Good Guy wrote on 2/14/2015 2:04 PM:
On 14/02/2015 14:24, Big_Al wrote:
Windows 8.1 64bit
I loaded my PC in Nov 2014 and set the auto login with netplwiz and it
worked great. Month or so goes by and it stops.
No matter what I do, regedit or netplwiz and any other google
suggestion other than loading some 3rd party util (which
I didn't), it just won't work.

So I reloaded a older backup image of the C: drive and now everything
works again. Just had to reset all my data and
update programs etc. So after an 8 hour day of updates I'm done.

Dang if I didn't do it again. It won't autologin and I know why. I
did a logoff rather than shutdown and then of
course I get the login screen and have to enter the password. From
this point on, the auto login fails.

Has anyone found a fix for this. I'd love to fix it rather than go
back and reload an image again. I've done so
much cleanup (minor stuff) that it would be so much easier to fix it.

Al.
Why do you need third party tool when you can do it within the Windows
system itself? Third party tools, no matter
where they are from, are a security risk.

Anyway, try this official link:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-vista/turn-on-automatic-logon

Good luck.


Yes, I've done that. netplwiz is control userpasswords2. Sameo
sameo. give it a try one day.


Have you worked through a tutorial like this one ?

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...8-startup.html

And the nice thing about a tutorial like that, is everybody who has
the feature busted, is going to show up there in the Comment section :-)
At least one user, did a fresh install to try to fix it.
And it broke again.

Paul

Yep. This is the SOP for doing it. Those screen shots with unchecking
the box is netplwiz and supposedly changes
those registry entries, if all is working right.
And I did a restore of a valid working image and I broke it too. I think
it was doing a logout after a ctl-alt-del to
get out of what seemed like an endless loop error in a program.
But I've since restored a slightly earlier image and have reloaded
everything and I'm totally restored and reset and
tweaked now and all is quite happy. And YES, I'm not going to do a
logoff again!. Not without a reset point or image!!


I don't know why logging off would affect that. I tried it, and after
logging back in manually, it auto-logged after a reboot. This worked on both
Win7 and Win8.1.
I think you have something weird going on with your setup/software/whatever,
and I hope you figure it out before it screws up again.
Sorry I couldn't help last time, and I have nothing new for you this time
:-(
Good luck with it :-)

Well, It's great to know that it didn't screw your machine up and that probably means it's not my suspect. Just a
coincidence for sure then.
Thanks for that bit.

  #9  
Old February 18th 15, 08:56 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
T
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On 02/14/2015 06:24 AM, Big_Al wrote:
Windows 8.1 64bit
I loaded my PC in Nov 2014 and set the auto login with netplwiz and it worked great. Month or so goes by and it stops.
No matter what I do, regedit or netplwiz and any other google suggestion other than loading some 3rd party util (which
I didn't), it just won't work.

So I reloaded a older backup image of the C: drive and now everything works again. Just had to reset all my data and
update programs etc. So after an 8 hour day of updates I'm done.

Dang if I didn't do it again. It won't autologin and I know why. I did a logoff rather than shutdown and then of
course I get the login screen and have to enter the password. From this point on, the auto login fails.

Has anyone found a fix for this. I'd love to fix it rather than go back and reload an image again. I've done so
much cleanup (minor stuff) that it would be so much easier to fix it.

Al.


Hi Big Al,

I wrote myself a script to set up autologon years
ago. I have not yet tested it with Frankenstein
(Windows 8) yet, but it does work with Son-of-Frankenstein
(Windows 10 preview) so it should work in Frankenstein
as well.

The remarks will explain how to use it. When you are
ready, just double click on it to add it to your registry.

You will have to correct the lines that scrolled


-T

@AutoLogon.bat
@echo off
rem Create a "reg" file to set an "automatic logon" in Windows XP
rem for the current user (%USERNAME%).

rem this script presumes the current user has no password. Modify
rem the "reg" file, if you want a password

rem This routine will park the "reg" file in c:\drivers\AutoLogin
rem with the name "XP.%USERNAME%.AutoLogonNoPasswd.reg"


set dr1=C:\Drivers
set dr2=%dr1%\AutoLogin
set fname=XP.%USERNAME%.AutoLogonNoPasswd.reg
set Target="%dr2%\%fname%"

if not exist %dr1% mkdir %dr1%
if not exist %dr2% mkdir %dr2%


rem Note: "echo/" and "echo." echo a blank line
rem
echo REGEDIT4 %Target%
echo/ %Target%
echo ; Create an XP Automatic Login .reg file for user %USERNAME% with
no password %Target%
echo. %Target%
echo [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon] %Target%
echo/ %Target%
echo "DefaultUserName"="%USERNAME%" %Target%
echo "DefaultPassword"="" %Target%
echo "AutoAdminLogon"="1" %Target%

echo.
echo %fname% has been created in %dr2%
echo.

Pause




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Old February 22nd 15, 03:41 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 14/02/2015 18:13, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 12:24:59 -0500, Big_Al wrote:

Stormin' Norman wrote on 2/14/2015 9:44 AM:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 09:24:39 -0500, Big_Al wrote:

Windows 8.1 64bit
I loaded my PC in Nov 2014 and set the auto login with netplwiz and it worked great. Month or so goes by and it stops.
No matter what I do, regedit or netplwiz and any other google suggestion other than loading some 3rd party util (which
I didn't), it just won't work.

So I reloaded a older backup image of the C: drive and now everything works again. Just had to reset all my data and
update programs etc. So after an 8 hour day of updates I'm done.

Dang if I didn't do it again. It won't autologin and I know why. I did a logoff rather than shutdown and then of
course I get the login screen and have to enter the password. From this point on, the auto login fails.

Has anyone found a fix for this. I'd love to fix it rather than go back and reload an image again. I've done so
much cleanup (minor stuff) that it would be so much easier to fix it.

Al.

Did you examine your event logs for clues? Any errors or warnings?

Is this a home machine or is it a member of a work domain? If a domain, your
domain administrator can disable your ability to have your machine auto-logon.

Lastly, take a look at this article, it might provide some assistance:

http://www.computerperformance.co.uk...n-registry.htm

Personal home PC Windows 8.1 pro. I'm admin and only user. Local network,
I've seen that link and it just repeats the same stuff I've read all over the place.
Since I posted this thread I've reloaded back one image and subsequently reset all my data and programs. AND DID A NEW
IMAGE. :-)
I just checked those registry settings and the password entry is not there, but the login works because I set it
originally with the netplwiz advanced users setting. This raises a red flag in my mind... if everyone is pointing to
this registry entry area to fix the issue, and I don't have all those fields yet it works, then what is what? Things
don't jive. Oh yea, every time I create that password field and fill it in, and reboot, the field is gone in the
registry.

I don't have the event logs now since I reloaded but if it happens again, I'll remember to check.
I'm going to export that Winlogon registry settings and save it for compare purposes if this ever comes back. I'm in no
hurry to create the issue again, but.....

I was kinda hoping to hear from someone that actually had the problem. I've spent too many hours on this and I'm
looking for some fix beyond the standard (if you can call them that) procedures.

Thanks for the event log hint.


It sounds like a local security policy setting to me, you could fire-up
gpedit.msc and peruse the current settings. If you are not familiar with local
security policies, you might want to read up on them before fingering the
settings.

Sorry I gave you the "standard procedures", but unless you have some bizarre
malware or some really badly behaved software on the computer, the standard
procedures are the place to start.

One thing (among many) about Windows 8 that sucks is the rapid startup feature.
If you shut the machine down, it writes a rapid startup file to the hard drive
which allows the machine to start up using the previous configuration without
reloading everything from scratch (my terms, I can't remember the MS bull****
jargon).


Hybrid boot or something IIRC.

If you restart the machine, it does not write or use that file and it
reloads from scratch. So, I would make sure I restart in between setting
changes.


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Brian Gregory (in the UK).
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