Transferring data to a new HDD.

Win8.1

I want to transfer all the data on a 250GB HDD to a larger HDD of 1TB.

Is there a faster way than using the 'move' command?

Peter

Peter Jason wrote:
Win8.1

I want to transfer all the data on a 250GB HDD to a larger HDD of 1TB.

Is there a faster way than using the 'move' command?

Peter


It might be more prudent to copy than 'move'


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On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 00:09:03 -0700, "...winston?"
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Peter Jason wrote:
Win8.1

I want to transfer all the data on a 250GB HDD to a larger HDD of 1TB.

Is there a faster way than using the 'move' command?

Peter


It might be more prudent to copy than 'move'

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Peter Jason wrote:
Win8.1

I want to transfer all the data on a 250GB HDD to a larger HDD of 1TB.

Is there a faster way than using the 'move' command?

Peter

I would think Macrium Reflect Free and "Clone" function
would be fastest.

That's because a cloning function may be smart enough
to examine which clusters are in usage, and sweep the
original disk in cluster order. To reduce the more
expensive head movements.

Tools like Explorer file copy, or even Robocopy, they
would work in file order, and the files could be physically
all over the place. Which requires more head movement
(longer stride, more time). One advantage that was unique
to Robocopy, back when it was written, was the possibility
of overlapped I/O on the source and destination device.
Other file copy methods didn't overlap quite as well.

So if its a race you're trying to win, try a clone
(perhaps based on VSS shadow copy). You could even
clone C: that way, which is what most of the tools
(Acronis or Macrium) would be using.

After the clone is complete, you can resize the partition
using Disk Management or diskpart. Or, some cloners allow
"resize on the fly", combining the clone and
Disk Management functions in one shot. The copy of
Macrium I'm running right now, allows resizing the last
partition on the source disk, so it takes up more of the
available space on the destination. But you shouldn't
have to worry about that, if you have a Partition Manager
(there are free ones), to use to finish the job and
make the destination partition fill the full 1TB.

Any time you do Partition Management functions, you have
to be clever and think carefully about the order of
execution of the things you're doing. Otherwise, the
computer will do wasted efforts in intermediate steps,
doing more data copies than necessary. And most
computer programs for this purpose, simply refuse
to look at what you're doing, and "combine" things
in an intelligent way. Leaving it to the user
to be smarter than the computer, and plan the
task. The computer programs don't "jump to a logical
conclusion", eliminating steps. That would make
the program dangerous to use, with more risk of
data loss. That's why they don't do it.

Paul

On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 17:31:07 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

Win8.1

I want to transfer all the data on a 250GB HDD to a larger HDD of 1TB.

Is there a faster way than using the 'move' command?

Peter

The fastest method I know is by running a backup to the new HDD.

Steve

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Stormin' Norman wrote on 2/16/2015 9:22 AM:
On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 09:11:17 -0500, Paul wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:
Win8.1

I want to transfer all the data on a 250GB HDD to a larger HDD of 1TB.

Is there a faster way than using the 'move' command?

Peter

I would think Macrium Reflect Free and "Clone" function
would be fastest.


Macrium or not, a clone or image function would be the way to go. Paul gets a
+1!



Oh-oh! Now we're going to get in to the difference between an image and
a clone! :-) I think the OP wants individual files to be copied/moved?
Is that an image or a clone?

On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 00:09:03 -0700, "...winston?"
wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:
Win8.1

I want to transfer all the data on a 250GB HDD to a larger HDD of 1TB.

Is there a faster way than using the 'move' command?

Peter


It might be more prudent to copy than 'move'



Ditto! Copy followed by delete, rather than move.

On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 11:47:28 -0500, Alek wrote:

Macrium or not, a clone or image function would be the way to go. Paul gets a
+1!



Oh-oh! Now we're going to get in to the difference between an image and
a clone! :-) I think the OP wants individual files to be copied/moved?
Is that an image or a clone?

It would need to be a clone. With Macrium any files imaged end up all
together in a .mrimg file.

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Peter Jason wrote on 2/16/2015 1:31 AM:
Win8.1

I want to transfer all the data on a 250GB HDD to a larger HDD of 1TB.

Is there a faster way than using the 'move' command?

Peter

I'd go one question further.
You ask how to transfer 'data' on one HD to another. By Data do you mean things like photos and documents? Or do you
mean transferring the 'system' like the os and all the files to another HD drive??

The first transfer is simple just copy with explorer then delete. You might even want to use something like winmerge
to verify the files are moved over and all match.

The second transfer is better done with a hard drive clone or imaging program. Acronis True Image...$$$, or Macrium
Reflect Free, and several others will do that efficiently for you.
A clone operation with dupe the drives, normally adjusting for the new drive being bigger, and then you just swap the
hardware and reboot and you never know you changed anything.

On 02/16/2015 12:31 AM, Peter Jason wrote:
Win8.1

I want to transfer all the data on a 250GB HDD to a larger HDD of 1TB.

Is there a faster way than using the 'move' command?

Peter




Most hard drive manufacturers have free cloning software...
even if you purchased a "bare-bones" drive, you can get it from their
website.


I'd simply clone the old drive to the new one...
then remove the original drive and keep in a safe place for a back up
and install the new drive in it's place.

Should be relatively fast and painless.

On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 00:09:03 -0700, "...winston?"
wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:
Win8.1

I want to transfer all the data on a 250GB HDD to a larger HDD of 1TB.

Is there a faster way than using the 'move' command?

Peter


It might be more prudent to copy than 'move'


Thanks, I'll do this. Then wipe the old disk.

On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 09:11:17 -0500, Paul wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:
Win8.1

I want to transfer all the data on a 250GB HDD to a larger HDD of 1TB.

Is there a faster way than using the 'move' command?

Peter

I would think Macrium Reflect Free and "Clone" function
would be fastest.

That's because a cloning function may be smart enough
to examine which clusters are in usage, and sweep the
original disk in cluster order. To reduce the more
expensive head movements.

Tools like Explorer file copy, or even Robocopy, they
would work in file order, and the files could be physically
all over the place. Which requires more head movement
(longer stride, more time). One advantage that was unique
to Robocopy, back when it was written, was the possibility
of overlapped I/O on the source and destination device.
Other file copy methods didn't overlap quite as well.

So if its a race you're trying to win, try a clone
(perhaps based on VSS shadow copy). You could even
clone C: that way, which is what most of the tools
(Acronis or Macrium) would be using.

After the clone is complete, you can resize the partition
using Disk Management or diskpart. Or, some cloners allow
"resize on the fly", combining the clone and
Disk Management functions in one shot. The copy of
Macrium I'm running right now, allows resizing the last
partition on the source disk, so it takes up more of the
available space on the destination. But you shouldn't
have to worry about that, if you have a Partition Manager
(there are free ones), to use to finish the job and
make the destination partition fill the full 1TB.

Any time you do Partition Management functions, you have
to be clever and think carefully about the order of
execution of the things you're doing. Otherwise, the
computer will do wasted efforts in intermediate steps,
doing more data copies than necessary. And most
computer programs for this purpose, simply refuse
to look at what you're doing, and "combine" things
in an intelligent way. Leaving it to the user
to be smarter than the computer, and plan the
task. The computer programs don't "jump to a logical
conclusion", eliminating steps. That would make
the program dangerous to use, with more risk of
data loss. That's why they don't do it.

Paul

Thanks, I'll do as I usually do and just make one primary partition &
copy everything to this. I'll let it run overnight.

On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 08:57:16 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 00:09:03 -0700, "...winston?"
wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:
Win8.1

I want to transfer all the data on a 250GB HDD to a larger HDD of 1TB.

Is there a faster way than using the 'move' command?

Peter


It might be more prudent to copy than 'move'

Thanks, I'll do this. Then wipe the old disk.

Wait until you are sure (I mean *sure*) that the transfer was
successful.

If you're wondering what I mean: I mean wait until you are *sure* that
the copy was successful.

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On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 11:47:28 -0500, Alek wrote:

Stormin' Norman wrote on 2/16/2015 9:22 AM:
On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 09:11:17 -0500, Paul wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:
Win8.1

I want to transfer all the data on a 250GB HDD to a larger HDD of 1TB.

Is there a faster way than using the 'move' command?

Peter

I would think Macrium Reflect Free and "Clone" function
would be fastest.


Macrium or not, a clone or image function would be the way to go. Paul gets a
+1!


Oh-oh! Now we're going to get in to the difference between an image and
a clone! :-) I think the OP wants individual files to be copied/moved?
Is that an image or a clone?

Neither.

That's a backup.

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 15:49:31 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 08:57:16 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 00:09:03 -0700, "...winston?"
wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:
Win8.1

I want to transfer all the data on a 250GB HDD to a larger HDD of 1TB.

Is there a faster way than using the 'move' command?

Peter


It might be more prudent to copy than 'move'

Thanks, I'll do this. Then wipe the old disk.

Wait until you are sure (I mean *sure*) that the transfer was
successful.

If you're wondering what I mean: I mean wait until you are *sure* that
the copy was successful.

I'll do a backup to yet another disk first.