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Steve Hayes wrote:
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:01:00 -0000, "Olórin" wrote: I'm always curious about those who *insist* in newsgroups that everyone should bottom-post - do they do the same in e-mails, or go along with what (in my experience) the overwhelming majority of people do, and top-post? No you should post your reply immediately below the text you are replying to. And yes, that goes for e-mails as well. In my opinion in a one on one email exchange the conversation is more fluent and natural when replied to the top, but to each his own. Are you so forgetful that you don't remember what was said in the previous email and that you must reread or scroll through the whole conversation again before you read the reply from the other person? And who says that private emails should follow top/bottom reply rules? What others do in their private emails is nobody's business but their own and they should do whatever pleases them! In my opinion replying to the bottom in an email exchange is like having to repeat everything twice when you engage in a verbal discussion. By far the worse thing about top/bottom posting are the ones who complain about it and who insist that others must do it their way. As far as I am concerned it doesn't make any difference, if I'm interested in a discussion thread I follow it and with top posting I don't need to scroll or reread through what was previously posted, and if I have to then with one click my newsreader can arrange the posts by thread so it's easy enough to sort out. I use both posting methods, if I see that the person who started the thread wants to post on top I do too, if I see that he wants to post at the bottom I follow him down there and post at the bottom. As far as I'm concerned it's nitpicking, especially in these Microsoft groups where both posting methods have always been accepted without too much fuss from any but the nitpicking crowd. And of course we won't say anything about the ones who post at the bottom without ever snipping anything, you know, the ones who make others scroll through pages and and pages of text only to find silly one liners at the very bottom... John |
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Steve Hayes wrote:
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:01:00 -0000, "Olórin" wrote: I'm always curious about those who *insist* in newsgroups that everyone should bottom-post - do they do the same in e-mails, or go along with what (in my experience) the overwhelming majority of people do, and top-post? No you should post your reply immediately below the text you are replying to. And yes, that goes for e-mails as well. In my opinion in a one on one email exchange the conversation is more fluent and natural when replied to the top, but to each his own. Are you so forgetful that you don't remember what was said in the previous email and that you must reread or scroll through the whole conversation again before you read the reply from the other person? And who says that private emails should follow top/bottom reply rules? What others do in their private emails is nobody's business but their own and they should do whatever pleases them! In my opinion replying to the bottom in an email exchange is like having to repeat everything twice when you engage in a verbal discussion. By far the worse thing about top/bottom posting are the ones who complain about it and who insist that others must do it their way. As far as I am concerned it doesn't make any difference, if I'm interested in a discussion thread I follow it and with top posting I don't need to scroll or reread through what was previously posted, and if I have to then with one click my newsreader can arrange the posts by thread so it's easy enough to sort out. I use both posting methods, if I see that the person who started the thread wants to post on top I do too, if I see that he wants to post at the bottom I follow him down there and post at the bottom. As far as I'm concerned it's nitpicking, especially in these Microsoft groups where both posting methods have always been accepted without too much fuss from any but the nitpicking crowd. And of course we won't say anything about the ones who post at the bottom without ever snipping anything, you know, the ones who make others scroll through pages and and pages of text only to find silly one liners at the very bottom... John |
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Unknown wrote:
Simply ignore those that complain about top posting. "Olórin" wrote in message ... "Steve Hayes" wrote in message ... On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:01:00 -0000, "Olórin" wrote: I'm always curious about those who *insist* in newsgroups that everyone should bottom-post - do they do the same in e-mails, or go along with what (in my experience) the overwhelming majority of people do, and top-post? No you should post your reply immediately below the text you are replying to. And yes, that goes for e-mails as well. "No problem at all. Just scroll down to the bottom of the page and read backwards." "Only thing is ... I forgot where we started." "How right you are." "Yeah ... sure does make us stand out, doesn't it?" "Maybe they're just not as clever as we are." "I wonder why nobody else top-posts?" "That's nice." "I'm a top-poster too." "Yes." "Are you a top-poster?" "Hi." "Hi." A conversation between two top-posters: -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk Okay, that's one opinion on the way to work (I'm just talking about e-mail, here). Just one that I've rarely seen in practice, and never in a business setting. If necessary, people DO manage to work their way up through exchanges, and without their heads exploding. I bottom posted down here just to further confuse things and to annoy others by making them scroll down here for nothing... I'm sure someone will complain that I should have snipped... John |
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On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:00:12 -0000, "Olórin"
wrote: "Steve Hayes" wrote in message No you should post your reply immediately below the text you are replying to. And yes, that goes for e-mails as well. Okay, that's one opinion on the way to work (I'm just talking about e-mail, here). Just one that I've rarely seen in practice, and never in a business setting. If necessary, people DO manage to work their way up through exchanges, and without their heads exploding. This, however, is not a forum for discussing netiquette, but rather for discussing one particular operating system. I suggest you Google "netiquette" for more information. -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk |
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John John - MVP wrote:
Unknown wrote: Simply ignore those that complain about top posting. "Olórin" wrote in message ... "Steve Hayes" wrote in message ... On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:01:00 -0000, "Olórin" wrote: I'm always curious about those who *insist* in newsgroups that everyone should bottom-post - do they do the same in e-mails, or go along with what (in my experience) the overwhelming majority of people do, and top-post? No you should post your reply immediately below the text you are replying to. And yes, that goes for e-mails as well. "No problem at all. Just scroll down to the bottom of the page and read backwards." "Only thing is ... I forgot where we started." "How right you are." "Yeah ... sure does make us stand out, doesn't it?" "Maybe they're just not as clever as we are." "I wonder why nobody else top-posts?" "That's nice." "I'm a top-poster too." "Yes." "Are you a top-poster?" "Hi." "Hi." A conversation between two top-posters: -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk Okay, that's one opinion on the way to work (I'm just talking about e-mail, here). Just one that I've rarely seen in practice, and never in a business setting. If necessary, people DO manage to work their way up through exchanges, and without their heads exploding. I bottom posted down here just to further confuse things and to annoy others by making them scroll down here for nothing... I'm sure someone will complain that I should have snipped... John Did you see the part about Kill Files? -- JD.. |
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JD wrote:
John John - MVP wrote: Unknown wrote: Simply ignore those that complain about top posting. "Olórin" wrote in message ... "Steve Hayes" wrote in message ... On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:01:00 -0000, "Olórin" wrote: I'm always curious about those who *insist* in newsgroups that everyone should bottom-post - do they do the same in e-mails, or go along with what (in my experience) the overwhelming majority of people do, and top-post? No you should post your reply immediately below the text you are replying to. And yes, that goes for e-mails as well. "No problem at all. Just scroll down to the bottom of the page and read backwards." "Only thing is ... I forgot where we started." "How right you are." "Yeah ... sure does make us stand out, doesn't it?" "Maybe they're just not as clever as we are." "I wonder why nobody else top-posts?" "That's nice." "I'm a top-poster too." "Yes." "Are you a top-poster?" "Hi." "Hi." A conversation between two top-posters: -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk Okay, that's one opinion on the way to work (I'm just talking about e-mail, here). Just one that I've rarely seen in practice, and never in a business setting. If necessary, people DO manage to work their way up through exchanges, and without their heads exploding. I bottom posted down here just to further confuse things and to annoy others by making them scroll down here for nothing... I'm sure someone will complain that I should have snipped... John Did you see the part about Kill Files? Yes, you're welcome to use them, it doesn't bother me one iota what others read or don't read. John |
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Steve Hayes wrote:
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:00:12 -0000, "Olórin" wrote: "Steve wrote in message No you should post your reply immediately below the text you are replying to. And yes, that goes for e-mails as well. Okay, that's one opinion on the way to work (I'm just talking about e-mail, here). Just one that I've rarely seen in practice, and never in a business setting. If necessary, people DO manage to work their way up through exchanges, and without their heads exploding. This, however, is not a forum for discussing netiquette, but rather for discussing one particular operating system. I suggest you Google "netiquette" for more information. This is the argument that nobody can win. When I reply, I bottom post unless the person I'm replying to is a top poster, then I top post. The bottom post makes sense to me just like it does to you. I don't read the paper from bottom to top. But who reads the paper anymore? Bottom posters and top posters will never agree on this. You got to love a newsgroup! -- JD.. |
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Steve Hayes wrote:
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:00:12 -0000, "Olórin" wrote: "Steve wrote in message No you should post your reply immediately below the text you are replying to. And yes, that goes for e-mails as well. Okay, that's one opinion on the way to work (I'm just talking about e-mail, here). Just one that I've rarely seen in practice, and never in a business setting. If necessary, people DO manage to work their way up through exchanges, and without their heads exploding. This, however, is not a forum for discussing netiquette, but rather for discussing one particular operating system. I suggest you Google "netiquette" for more information. This is the argument that nobody can win. When I reply, I bottom post unless the person I'm replying to is a top poster, then I top post. The bottom post makes sense to me just like it does to you. I don't read the paper from bottom to top. But who reads the paper anymore? Bottom posters and top posters will never agree on this. You got to love a newsgroup! -- JD.. |
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John John - MVP wrote:
JD wrote: John John - MVP wrote: Unknown wrote: Simply ignore those that complain about top posting. "Olórin" wrote in message ... "Steve Hayes" wrote in message ... On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:01:00 -0000, "Olórin" wrote: I'm always curious about those who *insist* in newsgroups that everyone should bottom-post - do they do the same in e-mails, or go along with what (in my experience) the overwhelming majority of people do, and top-post? No you should post your reply immediately below the text you are replying to. And yes, that goes for e-mails as well. "No problem at all. Just scroll down to the bottom of the page and read backwards." "Only thing is ... I forgot where we started." "How right you are." "Yeah ... sure does make us stand out, doesn't it?" "Maybe they're just not as clever as we are." "I wonder why nobody else top-posts?" "That's nice." "I'm a top-poster too." "Yes." "Are you a top-poster?" "Hi." "Hi." A conversation between two top-posters: -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk Okay, that's one opinion on the way to work (I'm just talking about e-mail, here). Just one that I've rarely seen in practice, and never in a business setting. If necessary, people DO manage to work their way up through exchanges, and without their heads exploding. I bottom posted down here just to further confuse things and to annoy others by making them scroll down here for nothing... I'm sure someone will complain that I should have snipped... John Did you see the part about Kill Files? Yes, you're welcome to use them, it doesn't bother me one iota what others read or don't read. John Ore you calling me an iota? -- JD.. |
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My post is at the bottom as some desired
.. "Southern Gospel News Updates" wrote in message ... This month 17 15 14 13 13 13 12 12 11 11 All time 13473 6866 5421 5160 4088 3281 3231 3083 2233 2140 Hi Make that 18 Regards Bill "Southern Gospel News Updates" wrote in message ... This month 17 15 14 13 13 13 12 12 11 11 All time 13473 6866 5421 5160 4088 3281 3231 3083 2233 2140 I thought "top posters" were bad and "bottom posters" were good?! Rick Merrill wrote: I thought "top posters" were bad and "bottom posters" were good?! They're both superior to those who trim the entire text they are replying to. ;-) Daave wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: I thought "top posters" were bad and "bottom posters" were good?! They're both superior to those who trim the entire text they are replying to. ;-) Top posters are the Devil. You are forced to read the message and rely upside down. The end is the beginning. People that trim useless text when they reply are OK by me. What really bothers me is people that don't use their smell checkers. There is nothing like bad smelling. So they're. So their. So there. 8-) -- JD.. On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:55:22 -0600, JD wrote Re Top posters This month Nov 2009: Top posters are the Devil. You are forced to read the message and rely upside down. Not if you put them in you kill file. -- A: Yes. Q: Does that happen with short messages too? A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail? : Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail? Net nannies like you. I'm always curious about those who *insist* in newsgroups that everyone should bottom-post - do they do the same in e-mails, or go along with what (in my experience) the overwhelming majority of people do, and top-post? (He *killfiles* people who top-post? Sheesh!) "Tom Willett" wrote in message ... : Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail? Net nannies like you. On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:01:00 -0000, "Olórin" wrote: I'm always curious about those who *insist* in newsgroups that everyone should bottom-post - do they do the same in e-mails, or go along with what (in my experience) the overwhelming majority of people do, and top-post? No you should post your reply immediately below the text you are replying to. And yes, that goes for e-mails as well. "No problem at all. Just scroll down to the bottom of the page and read backwards." "Only thing is ... I forgot where we started." "How right you are." "Yeah ... sure does make us stand out, doesn't it?" "Maybe they're just not as clever as we are." "I wonder why nobody else top-posts?" "That's nice." "I'm a top-poster too." "Yes." "Are you a top-poster?" "Hi." "Hi." A conversation between two top-posters: -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com "Steve Hayes" wrote in message ... On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:01:00 -0000, "Olórin" wrote: I'm always curious about those who *insist* in newsgroups that everyone should bottom-post - do they do the same in e-mails, or go along with what (in my experience) the overwhelming majority of people do, and top-post? No you should post your reply immediately below the text you are replying to. And yes, that goes for e-mails as well. "No problem at all. Just scroll down to the bottom of the page and read backwards." "Only thing is ... I forgot where we started." "How right you are." "Yeah ... sure does make us stand out, doesn't it?" "Maybe they're just not as clever as we are." "I wonder why nobody else top-posts?" "That's nice." "I'm a top-poster too." "Yes." "Are you a top-poster?" "Hi." "Hi." A conversation between two top-posters: -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk Okay, that's one opinion on the way to work (I'm just talking about e-mail, here). Just one that I've rarely seen in practice, and never in a business setting. If necessary, people DO manage to work their way up through exchanges, and without their heads exploding. Simply ignore those that complain about top posting. "Olórin" wrote in message ... "Steve Hayes" wrote in message ... On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:01:00 -0000, "Olórin" wrote: I'm always curious about those who *insist* in newsgroups that everyone should bottom-post - do they do the same in e-mails, or go along with what (in my experience) the overwhelming majority of people do, and top-post? No you should post your reply immediately below the text you are replying to. And yes, that goes for e-mails as well. "No problem at all. Just scroll down to the bottom of the page and read backwards." "Only thing is ... I forgot where we started." "How right you are." "Yeah ... sure does make us stand out, doesn't it?" "Maybe they're just not as clever as we are." "I wonder why nobody else top-posts?" "That's nice." "I'm a top-poster too." "Yes." "Are you a top-poster?" "Hi." "Hi." A conversation between two top-posters: -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk Okay, that's one opinion on the way to work (I'm just talking about e-mail, here). Just one that I've rarely seen in practice, and never in a business setting. If necessary, people DO manage to work their way up through exchanges, and without their heads exploding. Unknown wrote: Simply ignore those that complain about top posting. "Olórin" wrote in message ... "Steve Hayes" wrote in message ... On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:01:00 -0000, "Olórin" wrote: I'm always curious about those who *insist* in newsgroups that everyone should bottom-post - do they do the same in e-mails, or go along with what (in my experience) the overwhelming majority of people do, and top-post? No you should post your reply immediately below the text you are replying to. And yes, that goes for e-mails as well. "No problem at all. Just scroll down to the bottom of the page and read backwards." "Only thing is ... I forgot where we started." "How right you are." "Yeah ... sure does make us stand out, doesn't it?" "Maybe they're just not as clever as we are." "I wonder why nobody else top-posts?" "That's nice." "I'm a top-poster too." "Yes." "Are you a top-poster?" "Hi." "Hi." A conversation between two top-posters: -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk Okay, that's one opinion on the way to work (I'm just talking about e-mail, here). Just one that I've rarely seen in practice, and never in a business setting. If necessary, people DO manage to work their way up through exchanges, and without their heads exploding. I bottom posted down here just to further confuse things and to annoy others by making them scroll down here for nothing... I'm sure someone will complain that I should have snipped... John John John - MVP wrote: Unknown wrote: Simply ignore those that complain about top posting. "Olórin" wrote in message ... "Steve Hayes" wrote in message ... On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:01:00 -0000, "Olórin" wrote: I'm always curious about those who *insist* in newsgroups that everyone should bottom-post - do they do the same in e-mails, or go along with what (in my experience) the overwhelming majority of people do, and top-post? No you should post your reply immediately below the text you are replying to. And yes, that goes for e-mails as well. "No problem at all. Just scroll down to the bottom of the page and read backwards." "Only thing is ... I forgot where we started." "How right you are." "Yeah ... sure does make us stand out, doesn't it?" "Maybe they're just not as clever as we are." "I wonder why nobody else top-posts?" "That's nice." "I'm a top-poster too." "Yes." "Are you a top-poster?" "Hi." "Hi." A conversation between two top-posters: -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk Okay, that's one opinion on the way to work (I'm just talking about e-mail, here). Just one that I've rarely seen in practice, and never in a business setting. If necessary, people DO manage to work their way up through exchanges, and without their heads exploding. I bottom posted down here just to further confuse things and to annoy others by making them scroll down here for nothing... I'm sure someone will complain that I should have snipped... John Did you see the part about Kill Files? -- JD.. JD wrote: John John - MVP wrote: Unknown wrote: Simply ignore those that complain about top posting. "Olórin" wrote in message ... "Steve Hayes" wrote in message ... On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:01:00 -0000, "Olórin" wrote: I'm always curious about those who *insist* in newsgroups that everyone should bottom-post - do they do the same in e-mails, or go along with what (in my experience) the overwhelming majority of people do, and top-post? No you should post your reply immediately below the text you are replying to. And yes, that goes for e-mails as well. "No problem at all. Just scroll down to the bottom of the page and read backwards." "Only thing is ... I forgot where we started." "How right you are." "Yeah ... sure does make us stand out, doesn't it?" "Maybe they're just not as clever as we are." "I wonder why nobody else top-posts?" "That's nice." "I'm a top-poster too." "Yes." "Are you a top-poster?" "Hi." "Hi." A conversation between two top-posters: -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk Okay, that's one opinion on the way to work (I'm just talking about e-mail, here). Just one that I've rarely seen in practice, and never in a business setting. If necessary, people DO manage to work their way up through exchanges, and without their heads exploding. I bottom posted down here just to further confuse things and to annoy others by making them scroll down here for nothing... I'm sure someone will complain that I should have snipped... John Did you see the part about Kill Files? Yes, you're welcome to use them, it doesn't bother me one iota what others read or don't read. John John John - MVP wrote: JD wrote: John John - MVP wrote: Unknown wrote: Simply ignore those that complain about top posting. "Olórin" wrote in message ... "Steve Hayes" wrote in message ... On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:01:00 -0000, "Olórin" wrote: I'm always curious about those who *insist* in newsgroups that everyone should bottom-post - do they do the same in e-mails, or go along with what (in my experience) the overwhelming majority of people do, and top-post? No you should post your reply immediately below the text you are replying to. And yes, that goes for e-mails as well. "No problem at all. Just scroll down to the bottom of the page and read backwards." "Only thing is ... I forgot where we started." "How right you are." "Yeah ... sure does make us stand out, doesn't it?" "Maybe they're just not as clever as we are." "I wonder why nobody else top-posts?" "That's nice." "I'm a top-poster too." "Yes." "Are you a top-poster?" "Hi." "Hi." A conversation between two top-posters: -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk Okay, that's one opinion on the way to work (I'm just talking about e-mail, here). Just one that I've rarely seen in practice, and never in a business setting. If necessary, people DO manage to work their way up through exchanges, and without their heads exploding. I bottom posted down here just to further confuse things and to annoy others by making them scroll down here for nothing... I'm sure someone will complain that I should have snipped... John Did you see the part about Kill Files? Yes, you're welcome to use them, it doesn't bother me one iota what others read or don't read. John Ore you calling me an iota? -- JD On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:00:12 -0000, "Olórin" wrote: "Steve Hayes" wrote in message No you should post your reply immediately below the text you are replying to. And yes, that goes for e-mails as well. Okay, that's one opinion on the way to work (I'm just talking about e-mail, here). Just one that I've rarely seen in practice, and never in a business setting. If necessary, people DO manage to work their way up through exchanges, and without their heads exploding. This, however, is not a forum for discussing netiquette, but rather for discussing one particular operating system. I suggest you Google "netiquette" for more information. -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com Steve Hayes wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:00:12 -0000, "Olórin" wrote: "Steve wrote in message No you should post your reply immediately below the text you are replying to. And yes, that goes for e-mails as well. Okay, that's one opinion on the way to work (I'm just talking about e-mail, here). Just one that I've rarely seen in practice, and never in a business setting. If necessary, people DO manage to work their way up through exchanges, and without their heads exploding. This, however, is not a forum for discussing netiquette, but rather for discussing one particular operating system. I suggest you Google "netiquette" for more information. This is the argument that nobody can win. When I reply, I bottom post unless the person I'm replying to is a top poster, then I top post. The bottom post makes sense to me just like it does to you. I don't read the paper from bottom to top. But who reads the paper anymore? Bottom posters and top posters will never agree on this. You got to love a newsgroup! -- JD.. Steve Hayes wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:01:00 -0000, "Olórin" wrote: I'm always curious about those who *insist* in newsgroups that everyone should bottom-post - do they do the same in e-mails, or go along with what (in my experience) the overwhelming majority of people do, and top-post? No you should post your reply immediately below the text you are replying to. And yes, that goes for e-mails as well. In my opinion in a one on one email exchange the conversation is more fluent and natural when replied to the top, but to each his own. Are you so forgetful that you don't remember what was said in the previous email and that you must reread or scroll through the whole conversation again before you read the reply from the other person? And who says that private emails should follow top/bottom reply rules? What others do in their private emails is nobody's business but their own and they should do whatever pleases them! In my opinion replying to the bottom in an email exchange is like having to repeat everything twice when you engage in a verbal discussion. By far the worse thing about top/bottom posting are the ones who complain about it and who insist that others must do it their way. As far as I am concerned it doesn't make any difference, if I'm interested in a discussion thread I follow it and with top posting I don't need to scroll or reread through what was previously posted, and if I have to then with one click my newsreader can arrange the posts by thread so it's easy enough to sort out. I use both posting methods, if I see that the person who started the thread wants to post on top I do too, if I see that he wants to post at the bottom I follow him down there and post at the bottom. As far as I'm concerned it's nitpicking, especially in these Microsoft groups where both posting methods have always been accepted without too much fuss from any but the nitpicking crowd. And of course we won't say anything about the ones who post at the bottom without ever snipping anything, you know, the ones who make others scroll through pages and and pages of text only to find silly one liners at the very bottom... John -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And now is my turn to write to this post Chapter 62 and I hope you all enjoyed the book -- Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged |
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WHO cares just answer a posters post if you can help.
this isn't perfection class is it? -- AL'S COMPUTERS "Olórin" wrote in message ... I'm always curious about those who *insist* in newsgroups that everyone should bottom-post - do they do the same in e-mails, or go along with what (in my experience) the overwhelming majority of people do, and top-post? (He *killfiles* people who top-post? Sheesh!) "Tom Willett" wrote in message ... : Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail? Net nannies like you. |
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Top posters This month Nov 2009
WHO cares just answer a posters post if you can help.
this isn't perfection class is it? -- AL'S COMPUTERS "Olórin" wrote in message ... I'm always curious about those who *insist* in newsgroups that everyone should bottom-post - do they do the same in e-mails, or go along with what (in my experience) the overwhelming majority of people do, and top-post? (He *killfiles* people who top-post? Sheesh!) "Tom Willett" wrote in message ... : Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail? Net nannies like you. |
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Top posters This month Nov 2009
One way to quote this entire message in some readable format:
Southern Gospel News Updates wrote: This month 17 15 14 13 13 13 12 12 11 11 All time 13473 6866 5421 5160 4088 3281 3231 3083 2233 2140 Bill P wrote: Make that 18 Rick Merrill wrote: I thought "top posters" were bad and "bottom posters" were good?! Daave wrote: They're both superior to those who trim the entire text they are replying to. ;-) JD wrote: Top posters are the Devil. You are forced to read the message and rely upside down. The end is the beginning. People that trim useless text when they reply are OK by me. What really bothers me is people that don't use their smell checkers. There is nothing like bad smelling. So they're. So their. So there. 8-) Caesar Romano wrote: Not if you put them in you kill file. A: Yes. Q: Does that happen with short messages too? A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail? Tom Willett wrote: Net nannies like you. Olórin wrote: I'm always curious about those who *insist* in newsgroups that everyone should bottom-post - do they do the same in e-mails, or go along with what (in my experience) the overwhelming majority of people do, and top-post? (He *killfiles* people who top-post? Sheesh!) Steve Hayes wrote: No you should post your reply immediately below the text you are replying to. And yes, that goes for e-mails as well. "No problem at all. Just scroll down to the bottom of the page and read backwards." "Only thing is ... I forgot where we started." "How right you are." "Yeah ... sure does make us stand out, doesn't it?" "Maybe they're just not as clever as we are." "I wonder why nobody else top-posts?" "That's nice." "I'm a top-poster too." "Yes." "Are you a top-poster?" "Hi." "Hi." A conversation between two top-posters: there is a split in the conversation here, two diverging threads continues below and further below a note will be made titled "In Response to Steve Hayes" Olórin wrote: Okay, that's one opinion on the way to work (I'm just talking about e-mail, here). Just one that I've rarely seen in practice, and never in a business setting. If necessary, people DO manage to work their way up through exchanges, and without their heads exploding. there is a split in the conversation here, two diverging threads continues below and further below a note will be made titled "In response to Olórin" Unknown wrote: Simply ignore those that complain about top posting. John John - MVP wrote: I bottom posted down here just to further confuse things and to annoy others by making them scroll down here for nothing... I'm sure someone will complain that I should have snipped... JD wrote: Did you see the part about Kill Files? John John - MVP wrote: Yes, you're welcome to use them, it doesn't bother me one iota what others read or don't read. JD wrote: Ore you calling me an iota? In Response to Steve Hayes this is where a new conversation thread starts John John - MVP wrote: In my opinion in a one on one email exchange the conversation is more fluent and natural when replied to the top, but to each his own. Are you so forgetful that you don't remember what was said in the previous email and that you must reread or scroll through the whole conversation again before you read the reply from the other person? And who says that private emails should follow top/bottom reply rules? What others do in their private emails is nobody's business but their own and they should do whatever pleases them! In my opinion replying to the bottom in an email exchange is like having to repeat everything twice when you engage in a verbal discussion. By far the worse thing about top/bottom posting are the ones who complain about it and who insist that others must do it their way. As far as I am concerned it doesn't make any difference, if I'm interested in a discussion thread I follow it and with top posting I don't need to scroll or reread through what was previously posted, and if I have to then with one click my newsreader can arrange the posts by thread so it's easy enough to sort out. I use both posting methods, if I see that the person who started the thread wants to post on top I do too, if I see that he wants to post at the bottom I follow him down there and post at the bottom. As far as I'm concerned it's nitpicking, especially in these Microsoft groups where both posting methods have always been accepted without too much fuss from any but the nitpicking crowd. And of course we won't say anything about the ones who post at the bottom without ever snipping anything, you know, the ones who make others scroll through pages and and pages of text only to find silly one liners at the very bottom... /In Response to Steve Hayes /this is where a new conversation thread ends In response to Olórin this is where a new conversation thread starts Steve Hayes wrote: This, however, is not a forum for discussing netiquette, but rather for discussing one particular operating system. I suggest you Google "netiquette" for more information. JD wrote: This is the argument that nobody can win. When I reply, I bottom post unless the person I'm replying to is a top poster, then I top post. The bottom post makes sense to me just like it does to you. I don't read the paper from bottom to top. But who reads the paper anymore? Bottom posters and top posters will never agree on this. You got to love a newsgroup! /In response to Olórin /this is where a new conversation thread ends In response to Southern Gospel News Updates this is where a new conversation thread starts Peter Foldes wrote: My post is at the bottom as some desired And now is my turn to write to this post Chapter 62 and I hope you all enjoyed the book /In response to Southern Gospel News Updates /this is where a new conversation thread ends Just quoting because it's fun... The above is the "LONG" way of quoting this conversation in my opinion. My next response - on the same level as this thread - is likely how I would do it normally (not this way - ridiculously long IMHO.) -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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Top posters This month Nov 2009
One way to quote this entire message in some readable format:
Southern Gospel News Updates wrote: This month 17 15 14 13 13 13 12 12 11 11 All time 13473 6866 5421 5160 4088 3281 3231 3083 2233 2140 Bill P wrote: Make that 18 Rick Merrill wrote: I thought "top posters" were bad and "bottom posters" were good?! Daave wrote: They're both superior to those who trim the entire text they are replying to. ;-) JD wrote: Top posters are the Devil. You are forced to read the message and rely upside down. The end is the beginning. People that trim useless text when they reply are OK by me. What really bothers me is people that don't use their smell checkers. There is nothing like bad smelling. So they're. So their. So there. 8-) Caesar Romano wrote: Not if you put them in you kill file. A: Yes. Q: Does that happen with short messages too? A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail? Tom Willett wrote: Net nannies like you. Olórin wrote: I'm always curious about those who *insist* in newsgroups that everyone should bottom-post - do they do the same in e-mails, or go along with what (in my experience) the overwhelming majority of people do, and top-post? (He *killfiles* people who top-post? Sheesh!) Steve Hayes wrote: No you should post your reply immediately below the text you are replying to. And yes, that goes for e-mails as well. "No problem at all. Just scroll down to the bottom of the page and read backwards." "Only thing is ... I forgot where we started." "How right you are." "Yeah ... sure does make us stand out, doesn't it?" "Maybe they're just not as clever as we are." "I wonder why nobody else top-posts?" "That's nice." "I'm a top-poster too." "Yes." "Are you a top-poster?" "Hi." "Hi." A conversation between two top-posters: there is a split in the conversation here, two diverging threads continues below and further below a note will be made titled "In Response to Steve Hayes" Olórin wrote: Okay, that's one opinion on the way to work (I'm just talking about e-mail, here). Just one that I've rarely seen in practice, and never in a business setting. If necessary, people DO manage to work their way up through exchanges, and without their heads exploding. there is a split in the conversation here, two diverging threads continues below and further below a note will be made titled "In response to Olórin" Unknown wrote: Simply ignore those that complain about top posting. John John - MVP wrote: I bottom posted down here just to further confuse things and to annoy others by making them scroll down here for nothing... I'm sure someone will complain that I should have snipped... JD wrote: Did you see the part about Kill Files? John John - MVP wrote: Yes, you're welcome to use them, it doesn't bother me one iota what others read or don't read. JD wrote: Ore you calling me an iota? In Response to Steve Hayes this is where a new conversation thread starts John John - MVP wrote: In my opinion in a one on one email exchange the conversation is more fluent and natural when replied to the top, but to each his own. Are you so forgetful that you don't remember what was said in the previous email and that you must reread or scroll through the whole conversation again before you read the reply from the other person? And who says that private emails should follow top/bottom reply rules? What others do in their private emails is nobody's business but their own and they should do whatever pleases them! In my opinion replying to the bottom in an email exchange is like having to repeat everything twice when you engage in a verbal discussion. By far the worse thing about top/bottom posting are the ones who complain about it and who insist that others must do it their way. As far as I am concerned it doesn't make any difference, if I'm interested in a discussion thread I follow it and with top posting I don't need to scroll or reread through what was previously posted, and if I have to then with one click my newsreader can arrange the posts by thread so it's easy enough to sort out. I use both posting methods, if I see that the person who started the thread wants to post on top I do too, if I see that he wants to post at the bottom I follow him down there and post at the bottom. As far as I'm concerned it's nitpicking, especially in these Microsoft groups where both posting methods have always been accepted without too much fuss from any but the nitpicking crowd. And of course we won't say anything about the ones who post at the bottom without ever snipping anything, you know, the ones who make others scroll through pages and and pages of text only to find silly one liners at the very bottom... /In Response to Steve Hayes /this is where a new conversation thread ends In response to Olórin this is where a new conversation thread starts Steve Hayes wrote: This, however, is not a forum for discussing netiquette, but rather for discussing one particular operating system. I suggest you Google "netiquette" for more information. JD wrote: This is the argument that nobody can win. When I reply, I bottom post unless the person I'm replying to is a top poster, then I top post. The bottom post makes sense to me just like it does to you. I don't read the paper from bottom to top. But who reads the paper anymore? Bottom posters and top posters will never agree on this. You got to love a newsgroup! /In response to Olórin /this is where a new conversation thread ends In response to Southern Gospel News Updates this is where a new conversation thread starts Peter Foldes wrote: My post is at the bottom as some desired And now is my turn to write to this post Chapter 62 and I hope you all enjoyed the book /In response to Southern Gospel News Updates /this is where a new conversation thread ends Just quoting because it's fun... The above is the "LONG" way of quoting this conversation in my opinion. My next response - on the same level as this thread - is likely how I would do it normally (not this way - ridiculously long IMHO.) -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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The post in its entirety:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...b5c76d5be72bf/ Peter Foldes wrote: My post is at the bottom as some desired snipped - see above And now is my turn to write to this post Chapter 62 and I hope you all enjoyed the book Peter, I believe you were chapter 20, not 62. ;-) -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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