Jesus H. Christ

On 6/8/15 1:37 AM, Gordon wrote:
On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 01:06:29 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
Turn this stone into bread!

Figure of speech. The soil is comprised of miniature stones/granules
and this is the basic support for cereal grains that are used to make
bread. Get the picture? Gordon


I want bread now, instant bread!

On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 05:37:09 -0400, Al Drake
wrote:

The main problem here is that many seem to try to get by with a
simplistic, literal interpretation of the Bible.

Why not? A simplistic literal interpretation of the laws of physics
works quite well. It's only fair to compare like with like.

Rod.

You seem to feel comparing something scientific with something that is
highly debatable is acceptable.

Of course it is. Comparing them can elicit which one is better at
explaining things (although the fact that one of them is, as you say
debateable and the other one isn't is a bit of a clue...)

http://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/1998/PSCF3-98Peterson.html

So much waffle it doesn't explain anything. Meanwhile, in the real
world, things behave in particular ways that can usually be described
by fairly simple expressions, and as far as we can tell are absolutely
consistent throughout the universe, without any need for debate.
Without a rational understanding of the stuff of the universe, there
would be no technology, no computers, no internet, no newsgroups, no
Windows 10, and we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Rod.

On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 19:06:53 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
wrote:

On 6/8/15 1:37 AM, Gordon wrote:
On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 01:06:29 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
Turn this stone into bread!

Figure of speech. The soil is comprised of miniature stones/granules
and this is the basic support for cereal grains that are used to make
bread. Get the picture? Gordon


I want bread now, instant bread!

Well, grab a hand full of dirt and eat it. That has the same stuff in
it that bread has. Or, did you mean "bred, now." ;-)

On 6/8/15 10:03 PM, Gordon wrote:
I want bread now, instant bread!

Well, grab a hand full of dirt and eat it. That has the same stuff in
it that bread has. Or, did you mean "bred, now." ;-)


Well, to quote the Bible, Jesus said "Man cannot live on bread only".
How does your reply correlate to that?

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On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 17:19:39 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
wrote:

On 6/8/15 10:03 PM, Gordon wrote:
I want bread now, instant bread!

Well, grab a hand full of dirt and eat it. That has the same stuff in
it that bread has. Or, did you mean "bred, now." ;-)


Well, to quote the Bible, Jesus said "Man cannot live on bread only".
How does your reply correlate to that?

This carries many embedded messages. The most significant is that one
should not pick a single line of involvement and pleasures, but should
spread out across many and concentrate on all of them.

Another embedded message is that we should not let our gustatory
motivations dominate our lives. Gordon

On 7/8/15 6:53 PM, Gordon wrote:
On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 17:19:39 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
Well, to quote the Bible, Jesus said "Man cannot live on bread only".
How does your reply correlate to that?

This carries many embedded messages. The most significant is that one
should not pick a single line of involvement and pleasures, but should
spread out across many and concentrate on all of them.

Another embedded message is that we should not let our gustatory
motivations dominate our lives. Gordon


How could that one short sentence made you say so much? And the words
are NOT simple nor sometimes naive.

I guess I just can't understand dark magic and special psychology, aka,
the art of preaching!

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On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 21:41:05 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
wrote:

On 7/8/15 6:53 PM, Gordon wrote:
On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 17:19:39 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
Well, to quote the Bible, Jesus said "Man cannot live on bread only".
How does your reply correlate to that?

This carries many embedded messages. The most significant is that one
should not pick a single line of involvement and pleasures, but should
spread out across many and concentrate on all of them.

Another embedded message is that we should not let our gustatory
motivations dominate our lives. Gordon


How could that one short sentence made you say so much? And the words
are NOT simple nor sometimes naive.

I guess I just can't understand dark magic and special psychology, aka,
the art of preaching!

No one can fully understand these matters if they rely only upon their
carnal minds. One has to be lead/inspired by the Holy Spirit. But, the
option to accept or reject all of God's information is a sovereign
choice for each individual. No on will or ever has been impelled by
objective proof or overwhelming evidence, to believe that God exists.

Luke 11:9-10 (KJV) And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you;
seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.
10 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth;
and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

On 7/8/15 10:21 PM, Gordon wrote:
No one can fully understand these matters if they rely only upon their
carnal minds. One has to be lead/inspired by the Holy Spirit. But, the

Holy Spirit, or the ultimate devil Lucifer? How can an average mortal
tell?

option to accept or reject all of God's information is a sovereign
choice for each individual. No on will or ever has been impelled by
objective proof or overwhelming evidence, to believe that God exists.
Luke 11:9-10 (KJV) And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be ...

I am not interested in ancient magic subtly described by the Bible!

Everyone, be careful! Poi!

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On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 23:35:04 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
wrote:

On 7/8/15 10:21 PM, Gordon wrote:
No one can fully understand these matters if they rely only upon their
carnal minds. One has to be lead/inspired by the Holy Spirit. But, the

Holy Spirit, or the ultimate devil Lucifer? How can an average mortal
tell?

Resolve this question by verifying the information with the Bible. If
it is in agreement with the Bible it is from the Holy Spirit. If it is
not in agreement with the Bible it is from Lucifer/Satan.

option to accept or reject all of God's information is a sovereign
choice for each individual. No on will or ever has been impelled by
objective proof or overwhelming evidence, to believe that God exists.
Luke 11:9-10 (KJV) And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be ...

I am not interested in ancient magic subtly described by the Bible!

Everyone, be careful! Poi!

The information given to us in the Bible isn't ancient magic. It is
fundamental guidance information that, when used effectively, can help
us along with our "modern" lives.

Ancient information is and always has been a significant part of our
lives. Without the knowledge that ancient history brings to us we
would always be stumbling along in a life style that was comparable to
the most primitive.

This is where humans differ from other creatures. We are able to
record, to a limited extent, our experiences. Then, future generations
can use this information for their decision making processes. Gordon

Gordon wrote on 8/7/2015 11:58 AM:

The information given to us in the Bible isn't ancient magic. It is
fundamental guidance information that, when used effectively, can help
us along with our "modern" lives.

Especially the guidance about stoning transgressors!!

On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 09:21:57 -0500, Gordon wrote:

On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 21:41:05 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
wrote:

On 7/8/15 6:53 PM, Gordon wrote:
On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 17:19:39 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
Well, to quote the Bible, Jesus said "Man cannot live on bread only".
How does your reply correlate to that?

This carries many embedded messages. The most significant is that one
should not pick a single line of involvement and pleasures, but should
spread out across many and concentrate on all of them.

Another embedded message is that we should not let our gustatory
motivations dominate our lives. Gordon


How could that one short sentence made you say so much? And the words
are NOT simple nor sometimes naive.

I guess I just can't understand dark magic and special psychology, aka,
the art of preaching!

No one can fully understand these matters if they rely only upon their
carnal minds. One has to be lead/inspired by the Holy Spirit. But, the
option to accept or reject all of God's information is a sovereign
choice for each individual. No on will or ever has been impelled by
objective proof or overwhelming evidence, to believe that God exists.

Luke 11:9-10 (KJV) And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you;
seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.
10 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth;
and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

I looked for something once but didn't find it. In hindsight, it might have
been because it was dark where I lost it so I looked up the street where
there was better light.

On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 13:32:57 -0400, Cy Burnot
wrote:

Gordon wrote on 8/7/2015 11:58 AM:

The information given to us in the Bible isn't ancient magic. It is
fundamental guidance information that, when used effectively, can help
us along with our "modern" lives.

Especially the guidance about stoning transgressors!!

Is this what you are referring to?

Psalm 119:158 (KJV) I beheld the transgressors, and was grieved;
because they kept not thy word.

Proverbs 26:10-11 (KJV) The great God that formed all things both
rewardeth the fool, and rewardeth transgressors. 11 As a dog
returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.

On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 12:38:05 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 09:21:57 -0500, Gordon wrote:

On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 21:41:05 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
wrote:

On 7/8/15 6:53 PM, Gordon wrote:
On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 17:19:39 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
Well, to quote the Bible, Jesus said "Man cannot live on bread only".
How does your reply correlate to that?

This carries many embedded messages. The most significant is that one
should not pick a single line of involvement and pleasures, but should
spread out across many and concentrate on all of them.

Another embedded message is that we should not let our gustatory
motivations dominate our lives. Gordon


How could that one short sentence made you say so much? And the words
are NOT simple nor sometimes naive.

I guess I just can't understand dark magic and special psychology, aka,
the art of preaching!

No one can fully understand these matters if they rely only upon their
carnal minds. One has to be lead/inspired by the Holy Spirit. But, the
option to accept or reject all of God's information is a sovereign
choice for each individual. No on will or ever has been impelled by
objective proof or overwhelming evidence, to believe that God exists.

Luke 11:9-10 (KJV) And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you;
seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.
10 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth;
and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

I looked for something once but didn't find it. In hindsight, it might have
been because it was dark where I lost it so I looked up the street where
there was better light.

Were you looking for something that was the way YOU stipulated it
should be or were you looking for something that was the way God
stipulated it should be?

On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 13:09:07 -0500, Gordon wrote:

On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 12:38:05 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 09:21:57 -0500, Gordon wrote:

On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 21:41:05 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
wrote:

On 7/8/15 6:53 PM, Gordon wrote:
On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 17:19:39 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
Well, to quote the Bible, Jesus said "Man cannot live on bread only".
How does your reply correlate to that?

This carries many embedded messages. The most significant is that one
should not pick a single line of involvement and pleasures, but should
spread out across many and concentrate on all of them.

Another embedded message is that we should not let our gustatory
motivations dominate our lives. Gordon


How could that one short sentence made you say so much? And the words
are NOT simple nor sometimes naive.

I guess I just can't understand dark magic and special psychology, aka,
the art of preaching!

No one can fully understand these matters if they rely only upon their
carnal minds. One has to be lead/inspired by the Holy Spirit. But, the
option to accept or reject all of God's information is a sovereign
choice for each individual. No on will or ever has been impelled by
objective proof or overwhelming evidence, to believe that God exists.

Luke 11:9-10 (KJV) And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you;
seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.
10 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth;
and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

I looked for something once but didn't find it. In hindsight, it might have
been because it was dark where I lost it so I looked up the street where
there was better light.

Were you looking for something that was the way YOU stipulated it
should be or were you looking for something that was the way God
stipulated it should be?

I was joking, and besides, you won't be having a serious conversation with
me on the topic of religion. This isn't the place for it, and I avoid the
places where it isn't off topic.

On 7/8/15 11:58 PM, Gordon wrote:
Holy Spirit, or the ultimate devil Lucifer? How can an average mortal
tell?

Resolve this question by verifying the information with the Bible. If
it is in agreement with the Bible it is from the Holy Spirit. If it is
not in agreement with the Bible it is from Lucifer/Satan.

I don't remember the Bible talking about the differences between good
magicians and bad magicians, other than the mythical "666". Nobody
really understood how "666" visualized itself in physical reality.

The information given to us in the Bible isn't ancient magic. It is
fundamental guidance information that, when used effectively, can help
us along with our "modern" lives.

Jesus was Son of God, which could mean he's a demigod like Hercules,
which means he had magical power. He also had demonstrated his exorcist
magical power.

Gods and goddesses are ancient entities, so do their magical power.

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