Wake Up of Sleeping Windows 10 Desktop

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On 16 Sep 2015 15:15:17 GMT, Bucky Breeder
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On 16 Sep 2015 14:21:24 GMT, Bucky Breeder
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Robin Bignall posted this via
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I normally shut my system down overnight. It's something I do and
don't
want to discuss the merits or otherwise of shutting down.

Last week I was in the middle of something at bedtime so I put the
system to sleep overnight. On reawaking, I noticed that my
automatic
backup system had taken an incremental backup at 03:29 in the
morning,
when all of including the PC were asleep.

Tech support for the backup program tell me there's no way their
product
can wake up a sleeping system. I have all external interrupts
disabled
in BIOS in an attempt to ensure that the only way of waking up the
system is me pressing the power button.

I can't think of any culprits, because the only change to the system

has
been Windows 7 to Windows 10 upgrade. Can Windows 10 wake up a
sleeping
system?

Not really, but the people at Micro$oft who are watching you CAN & DO.

To be totally safe, you have to shut it down and pull the plug and
face
the
monitor right up against a wall until you want to use it again. Even
then,
if you forget to wear your tinfoil hat, you could be remotely
hypnotized
to
hook it up and turn it on, and then later you'll forget the whole
thing
ever even happened. The hypnosis may have already set and all "they"
have
to do is some short signal to prompt you into a subconscious state of
robotically complying with their intentions and instructions. Before
you
have a chance to take a nap or go to sleep again, you should enlist a
trusted friend to hide all firearms, poisons and medications somewhere

you
have no knowledge of then isolate your computer using the above
methods
and
only then... well, perhaps you could check into different motor lodges

for
next couple of weeks and only come home during the daylight hours.
But,

you could be in too deep already; after all it's the nefarious Windows

10.
And, God forbid, your "trusted friend" is in on it too - and thinks he

is
doing it "for your own good". Perhaps you know someone who is not yet

exposed to Windows 10? Warning: Linuxheads and Penguins do it for the

monitary rewards and to stay out of jail and as a condition of
probation.

Resistance is futile.

HTH...

Much obliged for this invaluable advice, Bucky. This post is a
definite
keeper.

YVW! It's called "obverse reasoning"... you ever heard of "avoidance-
avoidance conflicts"? It's like when Windows backup routines, et al,
run
against your druthers while in the "sleep mode", but you don't want to
shut
it down. I'm familiar with the mindset because I had an auntie who had
an
8-ft long antique cabinet which she wanted installed in a 7-ft-8-in
opening... BUT, she wouldn't accept cutting down the cabinet or widening

the opening. Alas, she passed away with that cabinet still in her
attic.
I believe she was smiling... At least that's what everyone said.

Hell, we've all had a relative like that.

Resitance is futile.

Capacitance is not infinite, either.

Did you mean "capitulation" or was that a Freudian Slip regarding dildoes?

Intelligent guy like yourself should consider using a newsreader with
word-wrap and/or a rewrap function.

HTH.

--

I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^; and,
It's like Yogi Berra always used to say:
"The future ain't what it used to be!"

http://i.imgur.com/f193YWS.jpg?1

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 16:38:26 -0400, Paul wrote:

Robin Bignall wrote:
I normally shut my system down overnight. It's something I do and don't
want to discuss the merits or otherwise of shutting down.

Last week I was in the middle of something at bedtime so I put the
system to sleep overnight. On reawaking, I noticed that my automatic
backup system had taken an incremental backup at 03:29 in the morning,
when all of including the PC were asleep.

Tech support for the backup program tell me there's no way their product
can wake up a sleeping system. I have all external interrupts disabled
in BIOS in an attempt to ensure that the only way of waking up the
system is me pressing the power button.

I can't think of any culprits, because the only change to the system has
been Windows 7 to Windows 10 upgrade. Can Windows 10 wake up a sleeping
system?

It could be, that the system is awakening for some other
reason or source, and then any softwares that keep their own
agent running in the background, get a chance to run. (Say, a
backup that runs on the hour, and has the tick box selected
to sleep when finished the backup.)

This person claims the Event Viewer can have stuff logged in it.
I don't know if that requires enabling such logging, or if it is
always there.

http://nicholasarmstrong.com/2013/02...8-wake-issues/

Thanks, Paul. The powercfg command tells me history is 0 and I have no
waketimers active. Weird!

--
Robin Bignall
Herts, England

none blew this one out his doodie-diapers:
Bucky Breeder was thinking very hard :
Robin Bignall posted this via
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On 16 Sep 2015 14:21:24 GMT, Bucky Breeder
wrote:

Robin Bignall posted this via
:

I normally shut my system down overnight. It's something I do and
don't want to discuss the merits or otherwise of shutting down.

Last week I was in the middle of something at bedtime so I put the
system to sleep overnight. On reawaking, I noticed that my
automatic backup system had taken an incremental backup at 03:29 in
the morning, when all of including the PC were asleep.

Tech support for the backup program tell me there's no way their
product can wake up a sleeping system. I have all external
interrupts disabled in BIOS in an attempt to ensure that the only
way of waking up the system is me pressing the power button.

I can't think of any culprits, because the only change to the system
has been Windows 7 to Windows 10 upgrade. Can Windows 10 wake up a
sleeping system?

Not really, but the people at Micro$oft who are watching you CAN &
DO.

To be totally safe, you have to shut it down and pull the plug and
face the monitor right up against a wall until you want to use it
again. Even then, if you forget to wear your tinfoil hat, you
could be remotely hypnotized to hook it up and turn it on, and then
later you'll forget the whole thing ever even happened. The
hypnosis may have already set and all "they" have to do is some
short signal to prompt you into a subconscious state of robotically
complying with their intentions and instructions. Before you have
a chance to take a nap or go to sleep again, you should enlist a
trusted friend to hide all firearms, poisons and medications
somewhere you have no knowledge of then isolate your computer using
the above methods and only then... well, perhaps you could check
into different motor lodges for next couple of weeks and only come
home during the daylight hours. But, you could be in too deep
already; after all it's the nefarious Windows 10. And, God forbid,
your "trusted friend" is in on it too - and thinks he is doing it
"for your own good". Perhaps you know someone who is not yet
exposed to Windows 10? Warning: Linuxheads and Penguins do it for
the monitary rewards and to stay out of jail and as a condition of
probation.

Resistance is futile.

HTH...

Much obliged for this invaluable advice, Bucky. This post is a
definite keeper.

YVW! It's called "obverse reasoning"... you ever heard of "avoidance-
avoidance conflicts"? It's like when Windows backup routines, et al,
run against your druthers while in the "sleep mode", but you don't want
to shut it down. I'm familiar with the mindset because I had an auntie
who had an 8-ft long antique cabinet which she wanted installed in a
7-ft-8-in opening... BUT, she wouldn't accept cutting down the cabinet
or widening the opening. Alas, she passed away with that cabinet still
in her attic. I believe she was smiling... At least that's what
everyone said.

Resitance is futile.

You should consider upgrading to a heavier gauge aluminum foil and a
higher dose of anti-psychotics.

A-hemmm... Yes, "none", it is I who need the alum foil and anti-psychotics.
You should consider talking to yer mommie and try to get a refund on that
"Charm Skool" you purchased online. Just use a free web-based retarded
cheap-shot generator - it'll make you look more clever.

Resistance is futile.

--

I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^; and,
It's like Yogi Berra always used to say:
"The future ain't what it used to be!"

http://i.imgur.com/f193YWS.jpg?1

Rene Lamontagne leaked this from his doodie diapers:
On 9/16/2015 10:55 AM, none wrote:
Bucky Breeder was thinking very hard :
Robin Bignall posted this via
:

On 16 Sep 2015 14:21:24 GMT, Bucky Breeder
wrote:

Robin Bignall posted this via
:

I normally shut my system down overnight. It's something I do and
don't
want to discuss the merits or otherwise of shutting down.

Last week I was in the middle of something at bedtime so I put the
system to sleep overnight. On reawaking, I noticed that my
automatic
backup system had taken an incremental backup at 03:29 in the
morning,
when all of including the PC were asleep.

Tech support for the backup program tell me there's no way their
product
can wake up a sleeping system. I have all external interrupts
disabled
in BIOS in an attempt to ensure that the only way of waking up the
system is me pressing the power button.

I can't think of any culprits, because the only change to the
system has
been Windows 7 to Windows 10 upgrade. Can Windows 10 wake up a
sleeping
system?

Not really, but the people at Micro$oft who are watching you CAN &
DO.

To be totally safe, you have to shut it down and pull the plug and
face the monitor right up against a wall until you want to use it
again. Even then, if you forget to wear your tinfoil hat, you
could be remotely hypnotized to hook it up and turn it on, and
then later you'll forget the whole thing ever even happened. The
hypnosis may have already set and all "they" have to do is some
short signal to prompt you into a subconscious state of robotically
complying with their intentions and instructions. Before you have
a chance to take a nap or go to sleep again, you should enlist a
trusted friend to hide all firearms, poisons and medications
somewhere you have no knowledge of then isolate your computer
using the above methods and only then... well, perhaps you could
check into different motor lodges for next couple of weeks and
only come home during the daylight hours. But, you could be in
too deep already; after all it's the nefarious Windows 10. And,
God forbid, your "trusted friend" is in on it too - and thinks he
is doing it "for your own good". Perhaps you know someone who is
not yet exposed to Windows 10? Warning: Linuxheads and Penguins do
it for the monitary rewards and to stay out of jail and as a
condition of probation.
Resistance is futile.

HTH...

Much obliged for this invaluable advice, Bucky. This post is a
definite
keeper.

YVW! It's called "obverse reasoning"... you ever heard of "avoidance-
avoidance conflicts"? It's like when Windows backup routines, et al,
run against your druthers while in the "sleep mode", but you don't
want to shut it down. I'm familiar with the mindset because I had an
auntie who had an 8-ft long antique cabinet which she wanted installed
in a 7-ft-8-in opening... BUT, she wouldn't accept cutting down the
cabinet or widening the opening. Alas, she passed away with that
cabinet still in her attic. I believe she was smiling... At least
that's what everyone said.

Resitance is futile.

You should consider upgrading to a heavier gauge aluminum foil and a
higher dose of anti-psychotics.

I wonder if silver would be more effective than aluminum? About .125
inch thick.
It works really good for Bozo Bins although pure copper is very
effective also.


Regards, Rene

You should know because you are st00pid and all your male butthole dildoes
are made of copper and silver because you're a status queen nym-shyfter.

Resistance is futile.

--

I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^; and,
It's like Yogi Berra always used to say:
"The future ain't what it used to be!"

http://i.imgur.com/f193YWS.jpg?1

none leaked this from his doodie diapers:
Rene Lamontagne laid this down on his screen :
On 9/16/2015 10:55 AM, none wrote:
Bucky Breeder was thinking very hard :
Robin Bignall posted this via
:

On 16 Sep 2015 14:21:24 GMT, Bucky Breeder
wrote:

Robin Bignall posted this via
:

I normally shut my system down overnight. It's something I do and
don't
want to discuss the merits or otherwise of shutting down.

Last week I was in the middle of something at bedtime so I put the
system to sleep overnight. On reawaking, I noticed that my
automatic backup system had taken an incremental backup at 03:29
in the morning, when all of including the PC were asleep.

Tech support for the backup program tell me there's no way their
product
can wake up a sleeping system. I have all external interrupts
disabled
in BIOS in an attempt to ensure that the only way of waking up the
system is me pressing the power button.

I can't think of any culprits, because the only change to the
system has
been Windows 7 to Windows 10 upgrade. Can Windows 10 wake up a
sleeping
system?

Not really, but the people at Micro$oft who are watching you CAN &
DO.

To be totally safe, you have to shut it down and pull the plug and
face the monitor right up against a wall until you want to use it
again. Even then, if you forget to wear your tinfoil hat, you
could be remotely hypnotized to hook it up and turn it on, and
then later you'll forget the whole thing ever even happened. The
hypnosis may have already set and all "they" have to do is some
short signal to prompt you into a subconscious state of
robotically complying with their intentions and instructions.
Before you have a chance to take a nap or go to sleep again, you
should enlist a trusted friend to hide all firearms, poisons and
medications somewhere you have no knowledge of then isolate your
computer using the above methods and only then... well, perhaps
you could check into different motor lodges for next couple of
weeks and only come home during the daylight hours. But, you
could be in too deep already; after all it's the nefarious Windows
10. And, God forbid, your "trusted friend" is in on it too - and
thinks he is doing it "for your own good". Perhaps you know
someone who is not yet exposed to Windows 10? Warning: Linuxheads
and Penguins do it for the monitary rewards and to stay out of
jail and as a condition of probation.
Resistance is futile.

HTH...

Much obliged for this invaluable advice, Bucky. This post is a
definite keeper.

YVW! It's called "obverse reasoning"... you ever heard of
"avoidance- avoidance conflicts"? It's like when Windows backup
routines, et al, run against your druthers while in the "sleep mode",
but you don't want to shut it down. I'm familiar with the mindset
because I had an auntie who had an 8-ft long antique cabinet which
she wanted installed in a 7-ft-8-in opening... BUT, she wouldn't
accept cutting down the cabinet or widening the opening. Alas, she
passed away with that cabinet still in her attic. I believe she was
smiling... At least that's what everyone said.

Resitance is futile.

You should consider upgrading to a heavier gauge aluminum foil and a
higher dose of anti-psychotics.

I wonder if silver would be more effective than aluminum? About .125
inch thick.
It works really good for Bozo Bins although pure copper is very
effective also.


Maybe he should live inside a room lined with a faraday cage?

You live in a room with a faraday cage and you call it your bozo bin.

Resistance is futile.

--

I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^; and,
It's like Yogi Berra always used to say:
"The future ain't what it used to be!"

http://i.imgur.com/f193YWS.jpg?1

Robin Bignall posted this via
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On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 20:13:04 +0000, Stormin' Norman
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 20:38:46 +0100, Robin Bignall
wrote:

Incidentally, my task scheduler won't run because it's
missing a snap-in. Dunno what to do about that.

That would concern me more.

Me, too. The MMC appears to be malfunctioning and the error message is
incomprehensible. It gives an opportunity to report it to Microsoft,
but no response has been received.
I'm merely curious about the 03:29 startup.

Feel free to ask for help fixing the task scheduler and locating the
missing snap-in.

Resistance is futile.

--

I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^; and,
It's like Yogi Berra always used to say:
"The future ain't what it used to be!"

http://i.imgur.com/f193YWS.jpg?1

Robin Bignall wrote:
On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 16:38:26 -0400, Paul wrote:

Robin Bignall wrote:
I normally shut my system down overnight. It's something I do and don't
want to discuss the merits or otherwise of shutting down.

Last week I was in the middle of something at bedtime so I put the
system to sleep overnight. On reawaking, I noticed that my automatic
backup system had taken an incremental backup at 03:29 in the morning,
when all of including the PC were asleep.

Tech support for the backup program tell me there's no way their product
can wake up a sleeping system. I have all external interrupts disabled
in BIOS in an attempt to ensure that the only way of waking up the
system is me pressing the power button.

I can't think of any culprits, because the only change to the system has
been Windows 7 to Windows 10 upgrade. Can Windows 10 wake up a sleeping
system?
It could be, that the system is awakening for some other
reason or source, and then any softwares that keep their own
agent running in the background, get a chance to run. (Say, a
backup that runs on the hour, and has the tick box selected
to sleep when finished the backup.)

This person claims the Event Viewer can have stuff logged in it.
I don't know if that requires enabling such logging, or if it is
always there.

http://nicholasarmstrong.com/2013/02...8-wake-issues/

Thanks, Paul. The powercfg command tells me history is 0 and I have no
waketimers active. Weird!


Check your NIC properties. If you don't want Wake On LAN packets
awakening the computer, change the "allow this device to" box so
it cannot. Use Device Manager for that (right-click the Start
menu, look for Device Manager).

A second control, is Power Management in the BIOS and the PME setting.
If PME (power management event) is disabled, that shuts off
wake on USB, wake on LAN. But it might not shut off Wake on PS/2
if the computer has a PS/2 port (since the SuperI/O chip
does PS/2 and watches for wake events there).

I think the CMOS block in the Southbridge, has one timer register
in it, and that is a way for the computer to awake according
to Task Scheduler. Since the CMOS clock is in the CMOS well
(separately powered), it allows more of the computer hardware
to be turned off, and still be able to wake the thing up.
I'm not aware of a way to stop that timer. At one time,
the timer was "owned" by the BIOS, but now the OS owns it,
which means the BIOS adopts a "hands off" approach.

Paul

On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 19:51:59 +0000, Stormin' Norman
wrote:

On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 19:39:25 +0100, Robin Bignall wrote:

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 22:07:06 +0000, Stormin' Norman
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 21:30:36 +0100, Robin Bignall wrote:

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 20:13:04 +0000, Stormin' Norman
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 20:38:46 +0100, Robin Bignall wrote:

Incidentally, my task scheduler won't run because it's
missing a snap-in. Dunno what to do about that.

That would concern me more.

Me, too. The MMC appears to be malfunctioning and the error message is
incomprehensible. It gives an opportunity to report it to Microsoft,
but no response has been received.
I'm merely curious about the 03:29 startup.

Well, if you want help fixing the task scheduler, feel free to ask.

Thank you Norman, I do. I notice that the task scheduler on my laptop
runs fine.

The first thing I would do is; download and run a full scan of your system using the free version of
Malwarebytes, see: https://www.malwarebytes.org/antimalware/

I have Superantispyware, which has just run.
--
Robin Bignall
Herts, England

On 17 Sep 2015 18:53:04 GMT, Bucky Breeder
wrote:

Robin Bignall posted this via
:

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 20:13:04 +0000, Stormin' Norman
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 20:38:46 +0100, Robin Bignall
wrote:

Incidentally, my task scheduler won't run because it's
missing a snap-in. Dunno what to do about that.

That would concern me more.

Me, too. The MMC appears to be malfunctioning and the error message is
incomprehensible. It gives an opportunity to report it to Microsoft,
but no response has been received.
I'm merely curious about the 03:29 startup.

Feel free to ask for help fixing the task scheduler and locating the
missing snap-in.

I already asked.

--
Robin Bignall
Herts, England

On 17 Sep 2015 18:42:57 GMT, Bucky Breeder
wrote:

Intelligent guy like yourself should consider using a newsreader with
word-wrap and/or a rewrap function.

My newsreader works fine.
--
Robin Bignall
Herts, England

On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 19:05:36 -0400, Paul wrote:

Robin Bignall wrote:
On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 16:38:26 -0400, Paul wrote:

Robin Bignall wrote:
I normally shut my system down overnight. It's something I do and don't
want to discuss the merits or otherwise of shutting down.

Last week I was in the middle of something at bedtime so I put the
system to sleep overnight. On reawaking, I noticed that my automatic
backup system had taken an incremental backup at 03:29 in the morning,
when all of including the PC were asleep.

Tech support for the backup program tell me there's no way their product
can wake up a sleeping system. I have all external interrupts disabled
in BIOS in an attempt to ensure that the only way of waking up the
system is me pressing the power button.

I can't think of any culprits, because the only change to the system has
been Windows 7 to Windows 10 upgrade. Can Windows 10 wake up a sleeping
system?
It could be, that the system is awakening for some other
reason or source, and then any softwares that keep their own
agent running in the background, get a chance to run. (Say, a
backup that runs on the hour, and has the tick box selected
to sleep when finished the backup.)

This person claims the Event Viewer can have stuff logged in it.
I don't know if that requires enabling such logging, or if it is
always there.

http://nicholasarmstrong.com/2013/02...8-wake-issues/

Thanks, Paul. The powercfg command tells me history is 0 and I have no
waketimers active. Weird!


Check your NIC properties. If you don't want Wake On LAN packets
awakening the computer, change the "allow this device to" box so
it cannot. Use Device Manager for that (right-click the Start
menu, look for Device Manager).

I don't allow the device to wake computer.

A second control, is Power Management in the BIOS and the PME setting.
If PME (power management event) is disabled, that shuts off
wake on USB, wake on LAN. But it might not shut off Wake on PS/2
if the computer has a PS/2 port (since the SuperI/O chip
does PS/2 and watches for wake events there).

All the relevant BIOS interrupts are disabled.

I think the CMOS block in the Southbridge, has one timer register
in it, and that is a way for the computer to awake according
to Task Scheduler. Since the CMOS clock is in the CMOS well
(separately powered), it allows more of the computer hardware
to be turned off, and still be able to wake the thing up.
I'm not aware of a way to stop that timer. At one time,
the timer was "owned" by the BIOS, but now the OS owns it,
which means the BIOS adopts a "hands off" approach.

Can't do much about that, then.
Thanks for the help.
--
Robin Bignall
Herts, England

Robin Bignall posted this:

I already asked.

Yeah... well, how's that workin' out fer ya?

--

I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^; and,
It's like Yogi Berra always used to say:
"The future ain't what it used to be!"

http://i.imgur.com/f193YWS.jpg?1

Robin Bignall posted this via
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On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 19:51:59 +0000, Stormin' Norman
wrote:

On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 19:39:25 +0100, Robin Bignall
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 22:07:06 +0000, Stormin' Norman
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 21:30:36 +0100, Robin Bignall
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 20:13:04 +0000, Stormin' Norman
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 20:38:46 +0100, Robin Bignall
wrote:

Incidentally, my task scheduler won't run because it's
missing a snap-in. Dunno what to do about that.

That would concern me more.

Me, too. The MMC appears to be malfunctioning and the error message
is
incomprehensible. It gives an opportunity to report it to Microsoft,
but no response has been received.
I'm merely curious about the 03:29 startup.

Well, if you want help fixing the task scheduler, feel free to ask.

Thank you Norman, I do. I notice that the task scheduler on my laptop
runs fine.

The first thing I would do is; download and run a full scan of your
system using the free version of
Malwarebytes, see: https://www.malwarebytes.org/antimalware/

I have Superantispyware, which has just run.

Well there's your problem! Delete that; then wipe your hard drive with
Darin's Boot and Nuke.

HTH.

--

I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^; and,
It's like Yogi Berra always used to say:
"The future ain't what it used to be!"

http://i.imgur.com/f193YWS.jpg?1

Stormin' Norman posted this
via :

On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 19:39:25 +0100, Robin Bignall
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 22:07:06 +0000, Stormin' Norman
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 21:30:36 +0100, Robin Bignall
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 20:13:04 +0000, Stormin' Norman
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 20:38:46 +0100, Robin Bignall
wrote:

Incidentally, my task scheduler won't run because it's
missing a snap-in. Dunno what to do about that.

That would concern me more.

Me, too. The MMC appears to be malfunctioning and the error message
is incomprehensible. It gives an opportunity to report it to
Microsoft, but no response has been received.
I'm merely curious about the 03:29 startup.

Well, if you want help fixing the task scheduler, feel free to ask.

Thank you Norman, I do. I notice that the task scheduler on my laptop
runs fine.

The first thing I would do is; download and run a full scan of your
system using the free version of Malwarebytes, see:
https://www.malwarebytes.org/antimalware/

Good tip! Then reformat the hard drive. That resolves lots of issues.

Resistance is futile.

--

I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^; and,
It's like Yogi Berra always used to say:
"The future ain't what it used to be!"

http://i.imgur.com/f193YWS.jpg?1

Bucky Breeder brought next idea :
Well there's your problem! Delete that; then wipe your hard drive with
Darin's Boot and Nuke.

Bucky is off his meds again, hide your little children.