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  #46  
Old November 4th 18, 04:18 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Eric Stevens wrote:

If 1-7 should be the same why does Corsair think it is on a different
network?


On what display or dialog do you see that descriptor ?

Is it a place that would normally hold an SSID ?

Paul
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Old November 4th 18, 06:07 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Sat, 03 Nov 2018 20:38:52 -0400, Paul wrote:

To my way of thinking, the switch should be transparent. The
left-over Ethernet ports on the NF4 should be "the same"
as the four ports on the GS105.

snipped ascii art

Maybe if Char is around, Char can confirm this.

When you put a bunch of routing devices in a row,
they may all be able to see the Internet, but
not always see one another (unroutable IP). But
a switch shouldn't be a problem.


I agree with all of the above.

Regarding that last paragraph, in the current context you're talking
about NAT routers, which of course are by far the most common for home
users. It's not the fact that they're routers that causes certain
connectivity issues, nor the fact that they do NAT. It's the stateful
firewall that such devices have. In a nutshell, LAN-WAN traffic is
always allowed, but WAN-LAN traffic needs to have an existing entry in
the connection table to avoid being dropped. Port forwarding (or using
the DMZ feature) is a workaround for the effects of the stateful
firewall.

  #48  
Old November 4th 18, 08:52 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Sun, 04 Nov 2018 00:18:14 -0400, Paul
wrote:

Eric Stevens wrote:

If 1-7 should be the same why does Corsair think it is on a different
network?


On what display or dialog do you see that descriptor ?


See Corsair network properties
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fgm16wxgxk...twork.JPG?dl=0

See Dell network properties
https://www.dropbox.com/s/93p5nuet1o...twork.JPG?dl=0

Is it a place that would normally hold an SSID ?

Paul

--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #49  
Old November 4th 18, 11:11 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Eric Stevens wrote:
On Sun, 04 Nov 2018 00:18:14 -0400, Paul
wrote:

Eric Stevens wrote:

If 1-7 should be the same why does Corsair think it is on a different
network?

On what display or dialog do you see that descriptor ?


See Corsair network properties
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fgm16wxgxk...twork.JPG?dl=0

See Dell network properties
https://www.dropbox.com/s/93p5nuet1o...twork.JPG?dl=0
Is it a place that would normally hold an SSID ?

Paul


The output is supposed to be the same as "ipconfig /all".

https://www.techrepublic.com/article...rties-feature/

Yours looks like some fields are getting mixed up.

But there is also evidence the machine does have Wifi on it.
There's an adapter hiding in there somewhere. At the bottom
of your Corsair picture it shows

Description: Broadcom 802.11ac Network
Adapter

Maybe the "ipconfig /all" will give cleaner output
for your consideration ? This is just one style of
working, YMMV.

cd /d %userprofile%\Downloads # Some place to work

ipconfig /all network_details.txt # Dump (if too long for screen)

notepad network_details.txt # Copy/Paste to USENET...

Your Device Manager (devmgmt.msc) should also
have matching entries to align with some of your
ipconfig.

I have some TAP/TUN things from VM hosting software,
and I don't think they have a correspondence with
Device Manager. If you're not using stuff like that,
then the correspondence should be easier to study.

https://i.postimg.cc/HsfFb3rQ/my-network-properties.gif

It's possible for more than one network adapter to be
present, in which case their "metric" determines
whether they're used or not. The wired connection
may have a higher weight than the Wifi (if it is
actually present).

HTH,
Paul
  #50  
Old November 4th 18, 09:27 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Sun, 04 Nov 2018 06:11:29 -0500, Paul
wrote:

Eric Stevens wrote:
On Sun, 04 Nov 2018 00:18:14 -0400, Paul
wrote:

Eric Stevens wrote:

If 1-7 should be the same why does Corsair think it is on a different
network?
On what display or dialog do you see that descriptor ?


See Corsair network properties
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fgm16wxgxk...twork.JPG?dl=0

See Dell network properties
https://www.dropbox.com/s/93p5nuet1o...twork.JPG?dl=0
Is it a place that would normally hold an SSID ?

Paul


The output is supposed to be the same as "ipconfig /all".

https://www.techrepublic.com/article...rties-feature/

Yours looks like some fields are getting mixed up.

But there is also evidence the machine does have Wifi on it.


Corsair has that capability but (a) it is not enabled and (b) it lacks
an antennae. Here is Belarc's take on the situation
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vo1v86hipb...elarc.JPG?dl=0

To confuse the situation, the wifi button at the rihgthand end of the
tool bar when provoked produces a pop-up screen at the bottom of the
right-hand corner of the screen which says "Your New Wi Fi -
Connected". As A result of trying to show you this I have learned that
I seem to have lost print-screen.

In contrast this is the is the situation for Dell
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q8q17o02ra...elarc.JPG?dl=0


There's an adapter hiding in there somewhere. At the bottom
of your Corsair picture it shows

Description: Broadcom 802.11ac Network
Adapter

Maybe the "ipconfig /all" will give cleaner output
for your consideration ? This is just one style of
working, YMMV.

cd /d %userprofile%\Downloads # Some place to work

ipconfig /all network_details.txt # Dump (if too long for screen)

notepad network_details.txt # Copy/Paste to USENET...

Your Device Manager (devmgmt.msc) should also
have matching entries to align with some of your
ipconfig.

I have some TAP/TUN things from VM hosting software,
and I don't think they have a correspondence with
Device Manager. If you're not using stuff like that,
then the correspondence should be easier to study.

https://i.postimg.cc/HsfFb3rQ/my-network-properties.gif

It's possible for more than one network adapter to be
present, in which case their "metric" determines
whether they're used or not. The wired connection
may have a higher weight than the Wifi (if it is
actually present).

HTH,
Paul

--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #51  
Old November 5th 18, 05:07 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Eric Stevens wrote:
On Sun, 04 Nov 2018 06:11:29 -0500, Paul
wrote:

Eric Stevens wrote:
On Sun, 04 Nov 2018 00:18:14 -0400, Paul
wrote:

Eric Stevens wrote:

If 1-7 should be the same why does Corsair think it is on a different
network?
On what display or dialog do you see that descriptor ?
See Corsair network properties
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fgm16wxgxk...twork.JPG?dl=0

See Dell network properties
https://www.dropbox.com/s/93p5nuet1o...twork.JPG?dl=0
Is it a place that would normally hold an SSID ?

Paul

The output is supposed to be the same as "ipconfig /all".

https://www.techrepublic.com/article...rties-feature/

Yours looks like some fields are getting mixed up.

But there is also evidence the machine does have Wifi on it.


Corsair has that capability but (a) it is not enabled and (b) it lacks
an antennae. Here is Belarc's take on the situation
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vo1v86hipb...elarc.JPG?dl=0

To confuse the situation, the wifi button at the rihgthand end of the
tool bar when provoked produces a pop-up screen at the bottom of the
right-hand corner of the screen which says "Your New Wi Fi -
Connected". As A result of trying to show you this I have learned that
I seem to have lost print-screen.

In contrast this is the is the situation for Dell
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q8q17o02ra...elarc.JPG?dl=0


The debug kernel one, is mentioned here. A poster
claims it is a byproduct of Microsoft Support remoting
into your computer. It seems to have the usual symptoms
when you poke it with a stick.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...8-8cbb3e38a5ad

Paul
  #52  
Old November 5th 18, 08:44 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Mon, 05 Nov 2018 00:07:38 -0500, Paul
wrote:

In contrast this is the is the situation for Dell
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q8q17o02ra...elarc.JPG?dl=0


The debug kernel one, is mentioned here. A poster
claims it is a byproduct of Microsoft Support remoting
into your computer. It seems to have the usual symptoms
when you poke it with a stick.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...8-8cbb3e38a5ad


I remember when Dell was my #1 computer I was helped very effectively
by a MS tech making a remote desktop connection into it. Presumably
this is a left-over from that occasion.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #53  
Old November 7th 18, 03:50 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Eric Stevens
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 15:53:30 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

I have two computers on my home network, Corsair which is fairly new
running Windows 10 Home (1809 17763.55) and Dell which is running
Windows 10 Pro (1803 17134.285).

For a long time I have had problems networking the two computers. Dell
could access Corsair and move files backwards and forwards but while
Corsair could see Dell's shared folders it could not move anything
either in or out of them. Not only that but password and credentials
for file sharing was driving me nuts. Today I sat down and decided to
tidy up the whole mess.

First thing I did was turn off password file sharing. Then I went
through both machines giving them identical settings for anything to
do with networking and file sharing. As far as I can see the
networking setup of both machines is identical.

I now have the reverse of the previous situation. Corsair seems to be
able to access and do anything inside the shared folders on Dell, but
while Dell can see the shared folders on Corsair any attempt to access
them is met by "You do not have permission etc ...".

--- snip ---

I'm still chasing this problem down and stiil have not succeeded in
giving the machine identical setups. One of the problems is user names
and I am trying to straighten out the situation on Corsair
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ecu7edpije...rties.jpg?dl=0
shows the situation.

If If give CMD instruction "netplwiz' I end up the User Accounts
screen on the left. There I can see there are two users
I presume the use of an email address rfather
than a name signifies a Microsoft acount.

When I click on 'properties' for each one in turn I get the two
different results linked by the red lines. Clearly they are different
in some important way. The user name of Playtech was given by the
machine's builders and has always irritated me. I would like to change
the name 'Playtech' to Eric Stevens but there seems to be some risk
attached to this.

Something which puzzles me is that I have these two accounts but I am
presented only with the one name when I log on. Further, the Playtech
account is the only one I seem to be using. If anyone can throw aany
light on this I would be grateful.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #54  
Old November 7th 18, 08:14 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2018 16:50:50 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 15:53:30 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

I have two computers on my home network, Corsair which is fairly new
running Windows 10 Home (1809 17763.55) and Dell which is running
Windows 10 Pro (1803 17134.285).

For a long time I have had problems networking the two computers. Dell
could access Corsair and move files backwards and forwards but while
Corsair could see Dell's shared folders it could not move anything
either in or out of them. Not only that but password and credentials
for file sharing was driving me nuts. Today I sat down and decided to
tidy up the whole mess.

First thing I did was turn off password file sharing. Then I went
through both machines giving them identical settings for anything to
do with networking and file sharing. As far as I can see the
networking setup of both machines is identical.

I now have the reverse of the previous situation. Corsair seems to be
able to access and do anything inside the shared folders on Dell, but
while Dell can see the shared folders on Corsair any attempt to access
them is met by "You do not have permission etc ...".

--- snip ---

I'm still chasing this problem down and stiil have not succeeded in
giving the machine identical setups. One of the problems is user names
and I am trying to straighten out the situation on Corsair
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ecu7edpije...rties.jpg?dl=0
shows the situation.

If If give CMD instruction "netplwiz' I end up the User Accounts
screen on the left. There I can see there are two users
I presume the use of an email address rfather
than a name signifies a Microsoft acount.

When I click on 'properties' for each one in turn I get the two
different results linked by the red lines. Clearly they are different
in some important way. The user name of Playtech was given by the
machine's builders and has always irritated me. I would like to change
the name 'Playtech' to Eric Stevens but there seems to be some risk
attached to this.

Something which puzzles me is that I have these two accounts but I am
presented only with the one name when I log on. Further, the Playtech
account is the only one I seem to be using. If anyone can throw aany
light on this I would be grateful.


Bugger it!

I've chickened out.

I've bought a book.

It will be a while before it gets to me.

There was a time when I could have handled a problem like this one but
I have far too little understanding of what's going on in Windows
networking.

I shall return. :-)
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
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Old November 7th 18, 08:30 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Eric Stevens wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 15:53:30 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

I have two computers on my home network, Corsair which is fairly new
running Windows 10 Home (1809 17763.55) and Dell which is running
Windows 10 Pro (1803 17134.285).

For a long time I have had problems networking the two computers. Dell
could access Corsair and move files backwards and forwards but while
Corsair could see Dell's shared folders it could not move anything
either in or out of them. Not only that but password and credentials
for file sharing was driving me nuts. Today I sat down and decided to
tidy up the whole mess.

First thing I did was turn off password file sharing. Then I went
through both machines giving them identical settings for anything to
do with networking and file sharing. As far as I can see the
networking setup of both machines is identical.

I now have the reverse of the previous situation. Corsair seems to be
able to access and do anything inside the shared folders on Dell, but
while Dell can see the shared folders on Corsair any attempt to access
them is met by "You do not have permission etc ...".

--- snip ---

I'm still chasing this problem down and stiil have not succeeded in
giving the machine identical setups. One of the problems is user names
and I am trying to straighten out the situation on Corsair
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ecu7edpije...rties.jpg?dl=0
shows the situation.

If If give CMD instruction "netplwiz' I end up the User Accounts
screen on the left. There I can see there are two users
I presume the use of an email address rfather
than a name signifies a Microsoft acount.

When I click on 'properties' for each one in turn I get the two
different results linked by the red lines. Clearly they are different
in some important way. The user name of Playtech was given by the
machine's builders and has always irritated me. I would like to change
the name 'Playtech' to Eric Stevens but there seems to be some risk
attached to this.

Something which puzzles me is that I have these two accounts but I am
presented only with the one name when I log on. Further, the Playtech
account is the only one I seem to be using. If anyone can throw aany
light on this I would be grateful.


You have two accounts that look very similar.
What does this report ?

wmic useraccount get name,sid

I don't see how it's practical to have two SIDs
owning a single home directory. There is no problem
at all, to have multiple SIDs stamped on a file. That's
not the impractical part. The impractical part is hiding
the details from the user, so they don't notice "something
strange" going on with the permissions :-)

I'll have to fire up my insider disk to check.
I have two setups. Both have MSA. One maybe installed
with MSA first. A second install where the MSA was
applied to an existing account.

I have cleanup to do from previous experiments
before I'll get a chance to try that.

Paul
  #56  
Old November 7th 18, 12:29 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Eric Stevens wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 15:53:30 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

I have two computers on my home network, Corsair which is fairly new
running Windows 10 Home (1809 17763.55) and Dell which is running
Windows 10 Pro (1803 17134.285).

For a long time I have had problems networking the two computers. Dell
could access Corsair and move files backwards and forwards but while
Corsair could see Dell's shared folders it could not move anything
either in or out of them. Not only that but password and credentials
for file sharing was driving me nuts. Today I sat down and decided to
tidy up the whole mess.

First thing I did was turn off password file sharing. Then I went
through both machines giving them identical settings for anything to
do with networking and file sharing. As far as I can see the
networking setup of both machines is identical.

I now have the reverse of the previous situation. Corsair seems to be
able to access and do anything inside the shared folders on Dell, but
while Dell can see the shared folders on Corsair any attempt to access
them is met by "You do not have permission etc ...".

--- snip ---


It occurs to me when looking at your picture,
that you have:

C:\users\playtech then, you signed in with MSA and
the "Full Name" of the account changed to Eric Stevens.
So now the MSA is associated with the account.

C:\users\eric This account would be created by starting a new
account and using an MSA for it. The new account
software module parses the email name
.
It selects "eric" as the first syllable and makes
a name for the disk drive. This account too, will
end up with "Full Name" of Eric Stevens.

If instead, as a third variant, you were attempting to make
a local account, you would enter your name as Eric Stevens,
the full name would match the value entered, and the disk drive
folder has the (inconvenient, space in name) path of

c:\users\eric stevens

So the PlayTech dudes were careful to not enter their
local account as Play Tech, or the path would have been

C:\users\play tech

In any case, on the login screen, there should be an
icon for each account, the "playtech" and the "eric".
They end up listed by their MSA string, making it look
like two identical accounts ?

Can't you delete one of them ? Or is information now
smeared across both accounts ? (Because, that's what
computers do when they get "off their leash", they
go nuts.)

I'm really not finding any info on the "minutia of MSAs".
The wmic command doesn't seem to have a field recognizing
that the thing is an MSA. It's just the account ends up
with a new "Full Name" which happens to match the email
address. They would need to keep a table of MSAs, to figure
out which "Full Name" is linked to what. I was hoping
the wmic lookup would have fields which give breadcrumbs
about the implementation. Instead, there's nothing of
value there.

wmic useraccount get *

And the new account parser selects syllables. If
your email address is "

Full name = Senior Scientist
Path = C:\users\senior

and only references to the MSA, ever uncover the "rocket"
part.

And I'm not sure that changing all the details of
an account is possible. You might be stuck with
C:\users\eric for example, as there might be things
depending on the continued existence of this path.

In Unix, it was a lot simpler, at least at first, because
/etc/passwd has the name and the file path there, just
waiting to be edited. I was hoping Windows had a treasure
trove like that, but the search engine isn't coughing up
evidence of such.

Paul
  #57  
Old November 7th 18, 10:34 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Eric Stevens
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2018 03:30:43 -0500, Paul
wrote:

Eric Stevens wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 15:53:30 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

I have two computers on my home network, Corsair which is fairly new
running Windows 10 Home (1809 17763.55) and Dell which is running
Windows 10 Pro (1803 17134.285).

For a long time I have had problems networking the two computers. Dell
could access Corsair and move files backwards and forwards but while
Corsair could see Dell's shared folders it could not move anything
either in or out of them. Not only that but password and credentials
for file sharing was driving me nuts. Today I sat down and decided to
tidy up the whole mess.

First thing I did was turn off password file sharing. Then I went
through both machines giving them identical settings for anything to
do with networking and file sharing. As far as I can see the
networking setup of both machines is identical.

I now have the reverse of the previous situation. Corsair seems to be
able to access and do anything inside the shared folders on Dell, but
while Dell can see the shared folders on Corsair any attempt to access
them is met by "You do not have permission etc ...".

--- snip ---

I'm still chasing this problem down and stiil have not succeeded in
giving the machine identical setups. One of the problems is user names
and I am trying to straighten out the situation on Corsair
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ecu7edpije...rties.jpg?dl=0
shows the situation.

If If give CMD instruction "netplwiz' I end up the User Accounts
screen on the left. There I can see there are two users
I presume the use of an email address rfather
than a name signifies a Microsoft acount.

When I click on 'properties' for each one in turn I get the two
different results linked by the red lines. Clearly they are different
in some important way. The user name of Playtech was given by the
machine's builders and has always irritated me. I would like to change
the name 'Playtech' to Eric Stevens but there seems to be some risk
attached to this.

Something which puzzles me is that I have these two accounts but I am
presented only with the one name when I log on. Further, the Playtech
account is the only one I seem to be using. If anyone can throw aany
light on this I would be grateful.


You have two accounts that look very similar.
What does this report ?


Name SID
Administrator S-1-5-21-2704639561-4171982726-810760020-500
DefaultAccount S-1-5-21-2704639561-4171982726-810760020-503
defaultuser0 S-1-5-21-2704639561-4171982726-810760020-1003
Guest S-1-5-21-2704639561-4171982726-810760020-501
HomeGroupUser$ S-1-5-21-2704639561-4171982726-810760020-1009
Playtech S-1-5-21-2704639561-4171982726-810760020-1004
WDAGUtilityAccount S-1-5-21-2704639561-4171982726-810760020-504

wmic useraccount get name,sid

I don't see how it's practical to have two SIDs
owning a single home directory. There is no problem
at all, to have multiple SIDs stamped on a file. That's
not the impractical part. The impractical part is hiding
the details from the user, so they don't notice "something
strange" going on with the permissions :-)

I'll have to fire up my insider disk to check.
I have two setups. Both have MSA. One maybe installed
with MSA first. A second install where the MSA was
applied to an existing account.

I have cleanup to do from previous experiments
before I'll get a chance to try that.

Paul

--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #58  
Old November 8th 18, 02:19 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Eric Stevens wrote:
On Wed, 07 Nov 2018 03:30:43 -0500, Paul
wrote:

Eric Stevens wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 15:53:30 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

I have two computers on my home network, Corsair which is fairly new
running Windows 10 Home (1809 17763.55) and Dell which is running
Windows 10 Pro (1803 17134.285).

For a long time I have had problems networking the two computers. Dell
could access Corsair and move files backwards and forwards but while
Corsair could see Dell's shared folders it could not move anything
either in or out of them. Not only that but password and credentials
for file sharing was driving me nuts. Today I sat down and decided to
tidy up the whole mess.

First thing I did was turn off password file sharing. Then I went
through both machines giving them identical settings for anything to
do with networking and file sharing. As far as I can see the
networking setup of both machines is identical.

I now have the reverse of the previous situation. Corsair seems to be
able to access and do anything inside the shared folders on Dell, but
while Dell can see the shared folders on Corsair any attempt to access
them is met by "You do not have permission etc ...".

--- snip ---

I'm still chasing this problem down and stiil have not succeeded in
giving the machine identical setups. One of the problems is user names
and I am trying to straighten out the situation on Corsair
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ecu7edpije...rties.jpg?dl=0
shows the situation.

If If give CMD instruction "netplwiz' I end up the User Accounts
screen on the left. There I can see there are two users
I presume the use of an email address rfather
than a name signifies a Microsoft acount.

When I click on 'properties' for each one in turn I get the two
different results linked by the red lines. Clearly they are different
in some important way. The user name of Playtech was given by the
machine's builders and has always irritated me. I would like to change
the name 'Playtech' to Eric Stevens but there seems to be some risk
attached to this.

Something which puzzles me is that I have these two accounts but I am
presented only with the one name when I log on. Further, the Playtech
account is the only one I seem to be using. If anyone can throw aany
light on this I would be grateful.

You have two accounts that look very similar.
What does this report ?


Name SID
Administrator S-1-5-21-2704639561-4171982726-810760020-500
DefaultAccount S-1-5-21-2704639561-4171982726-810760020-503
defaultuser0 S-1-5-21-2704639561-4171982726-810760020-1003
Guest S-1-5-21-2704639561-4171982726-810760020-501
HomeGroupUser$ S-1-5-21-2704639561-4171982726-810760020-1009
Playtech S-1-5-21-2704639561-4171982726-810760020-1004
WDAGUtilityAccount S-1-5-21-2704639561-4171982726-810760020-504


This is info on defaultuser0. It doesn't seem it's a real account.

https://superuser.com/questions/1152...safe-to-delete

We know HomeGroupUser$ is a side effect of HomeGroup.

Leaving just your 1004 account.

User account space starts at 1000.

Real administrator is 500 (and the account normally isn't enabled,
since the user account belonging to "Administrator Group" gives
all the same super-powers).

I had expected there would be two separate accounts in this
adventure.

Don't forget to check C:\users and see how many things
are nestled in there.

Paul

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Old November 8th 18, 09:18 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Eric Stevens
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2018 21:19:47 -0500, Paul
wrote:

--- snip ---

Something which puzzles me is that I have these two accounts but I am
presented only with the one name when I log on. Further, the Playtech
account is the only one I seem to be using. If anyone can throw aany
light on this I would be grateful.


You have two accounts that look very similar.
What does this report ?


Name SID
Administrator S-1-5-21-2704639561-4171982726-810760020-500
DefaultAccount S-1-5-21-2704639561-4171982726-810760020-503
defaultuser0 S-1-5-21-2704639561-4171982726-810760020-1003
Guest S-1-5-21-2704639561-4171982726-810760020-501
HomeGroupUser$ S-1-5-21-2704639561-4171982726-810760020-1009
Playtech S-1-5-21-2704639561-4171982726-810760020-1004
WDAGUtilityAccount S-1-5-21-2704639561-4171982726-810760020-504


This is info on defaultuser0. It doesn't seem it's a real account.

https://superuser.com/questions/1152...safe-to-delete

Presumably it's safe to delete it?

We know HomeGroupUser$ is a side effect of HomeGroup.


I don't use that. Should I leave it or delete it?

Leaving just your 1004 account.

User account space starts at 1000.


Is it possible to rename user 'Playtech" or does that have problems?

All this is foreign territory to me and I am reluctant to fiddle with
things I do not fully understand.

Real administrator is 500 (and the account normally isn't enabled,
since the user account belonging to "Administrator Group" gives
all the same super-powers).

I had expected there would be two separate accounts in this
adventure.


I didn't tell you but since posting the message to which you have
responded I deleted one apparently unused Eric Stevens account.

Don't forget to check C:\users and see how many things
are nestled in there.


Default
defaultuser0
defaultuser0.DESKTOP-JLUGNMC
Eric Stevens.old (The deleted user)
Playtech
Public

--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #60  
Old November 8th 18, 01:06 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Eric Stevens wrote:
On Wed, 07 Nov 2018 21:19:47 -0500, Paul


I had expected there would be two separate accounts in this
adventure.


I didn't tell you but since posting the message to which you have
responded I deleted one apparently unused Eric Stevens account.
Don't forget to check C:\users and see how many things
are nestled in there.


Default
defaultuser0
defaultuser0.DESKTOP-JLUGNMC
Eric Stevens.old (The deleted user)
Playtech
Public


But I think that's the part that is busted.

The Full Name might be Eric Stevens on the C:\users\playtech
account, because of the MSA you applied to it.

Whereas the account you just deleted, the C:\users\eric stevens
would actually have been useful (because it doesn't say Playtech).
It could have been a local account, and even been "mostly preserved"
when applying an MSA, because of your clever choice of email address.
The Full Name would have remained the same.

I thought this was one of the limitations of renaming,
is you can find a way to change the Full Name, but
cannot change C:\users\playtech. Changing the Full Name
is supported in the GUI or something.

Well, actually, you can change the path. But
"there be alligators". You'll be cleaning up the side
effects forever. You would be entertained. If you succeed,
you will have earned your Cert. There's a 13 step procedure
here, complete with being tossed into a temporary account
at login because the system can't figure it out. Just imagine
how upset OneDrive will be. Or the App Store registration
of having purchased (or even downloaded for free), some App.
These could easily have the home directory path hashed
into them somehow.

https://superuser.com/questions/8908...-in-windows-10

And due to the bad obfuscation practices of the staff
at Microsoft, you couldn't even search the entire disk drive
and replace every "playtech" reference, because some things
are encoded using silly methods before being put in the
registry. For example, a license key for an OS, isn't
stored as just 25 characters. It's "slightly compressed"
to **** you off. The code and method were reverse engineered,
which is why, today, we can extract a key using several tools.
But MS has a bad habit of doing stuff like that. Even the
staff at Mozilla like crap like that, with their .jsonlz4
file format. Which is a needless compression step only introduced
to prevent users from conveniently editing the file in
question. They could have used encryption, but they
chose compression instead, as a "good enough nuisance".
Pestilence.

Good luck on your mission.

Paul
 




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