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  #106  
Old November 13th 19, 10:57 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
Mayayana
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"Commander Kinsey" wrote

| Speak for yourself. I just don't see ads. Nor have I
| ever seen a website asking me to turn off my ad
| blocker. Since I block script there's no way for the
| website to know anything except which of their files
| I downloaded.
|
| Don't the sites then complain script isn't running? I'll try turning
javascript off and see what happens. No doubt it'll break quite a few sites
that need it. Opera's settings actually recommend it's left on.
|

So does Firefox these days. They actually hid the setting
altogether, which is another good reason to have NoScript.

But no, they don't complain. Without script a website has very
little option to interact or change things. They can use ASP or
PHP to check some things when you ask for the page, such as
check your browser in order to customize the page. But most
"intelligence" requires script. Webpages were never intended to be
interactive. They were designed to be static, graphical
presentations. Then if a page needed to update they'd use
cookies or a session ID. That was the point of cookies -- to
carry information from one webpage to the next, like when you
select an item to buy and then want to check out.

CSS can provide some limited interaction by providing things
like a hover event, which allows a website to make flyout
menus without needing script. But aside from that, a page
with just HTML and CSS is static. That's why javascript is the
source of virtually all security problems. HTML is not executable.
It's only a graphical description language.


| Sounds like the US government are rather like a couple of my neighbours.
****ing nosy. The silly thing is, they both told me they call the other one
the town gossip. When I passed this info to them both, they were
flabbergasted. "How can she call me that when she does this, ergh!"
|

I kind of like gossips. At least they're honest, sort of,
and they're interested in other people.

To my mind, much of the problem comes down to two
things: 1) The ability to store, organize and analyze data
and 2) beancounters. There are people who just think we
should measure everything we can. But now that it's so
systematic it becomes a threat. For instance, it was always
possible to go to City Hall and find out the ages, names,
professions of your neighbors. But it was data stored on
paper in file drawers. Now it can be easily collected and
analyzed.

If companies know where you are, the drugs you take,
the food you eat, the things you buy, the music you listen
to, the vacation spots you go to (it came out recently
that AirBnB is one of numerous companies making a side
income by selling every bit of data about their customers)
then it's hard to even imagine what all the risks might be --
from gov't, from corporations, from thieves who hack to
get that data, etc.

There was an article in the NYT recently about the rise
of data companies whose only business is to buy and sell
personal data:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/04/b...re-access.html

Crazy stuff. Google/Apple/Facebook are the most obvious,
but the business of spying and profiting from the data is
constantly growing.


| | When you need a drill bit, a battery charger, a shirt, a tin of paint,
| etc, where do you go?
|
| Home Depot, Home Depot, Kohls, Sherwin Williams or the local
| lumber yard that sells Benj Moore. But I live near a big city, so
| it's easy for me.
|
| It's still a lot slower than just clicking things on Ebay. I can order a
wide variety of stuff in 10 minutes that would normally involve over an hour
of driving, parking, wandering around shops, and queueing at tills.
|

True. But I don't buy that much. And usually I want to see
before I buy. And if I go to the store I don't have to wait.
Then there are the ethical factors: I'm supporting local
businesses, I'm thwarting spying by buying local with cash,
and I'm not causing the use of 2 cardboard boxes and a sheet
of bubble wrap every time I buy something.


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  #107  
Old November 13th 19, 11:04 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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In article , Mayayana
wrote:

There was an article in the NYT recently about the rise
of data companies whose only business is to buy and sell
personal data:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/04/b...re-access.html

Crazy stuff. Google/Apple/Facebook are the most obvious,
but the business of spying and profiting from the data is
constantly growing.


none of those three are mentioned anywhere in that article, other than
kashmir using her apple macbook to access coinbase.

google and facebook do collect and monetize user data, however, apple
does not and takes numerous steps to *prevent* it being collected and
tracked by them *and* others.
  #108  
Old November 13th 19, 11:13 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 22:57:02 -0000, Mayayana wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote

| Speak for yourself. I just don't see ads. Nor have I
| ever seen a website asking me to turn off my ad
| blocker. Since I block script there's no way for the
| website to know anything except which of their files
| I downloaded.
|
| Don't the sites then complain script isn't running? I'll try turning
javascript off and see what happens. No doubt it'll break quite a few sites
that need it. Opera's settings actually recommend it's left on.
|

So does Firefox these days. They actually hid the setting
altogether, which is another good reason to have NoScript.

But no, they don't complain.


I've just put it back on. The first site I went to, Quora, didn't allow me to vote for an answer or to add my own answer. The buttons did nothing. It seems script is needed.

Without script a website has very
little option to interact or change things. They can use ASP or
PHP to check some things when you ask for the page, such as
check your browser in order to customize the page. But most
"intelligence" requires script. Webpages were never intended to be
interactive. They were designed to be static, graphical
presentations. Then if a page needed to update they'd use
cookies or a session ID. That was the point of cookies -- to
carry information from one webpage to the next, like when you
select an item to buy and then want to check out.

CSS can provide some limited interaction by providing things
like a hover event, which allows a website to make flyout
menus without needing script. But aside from that, a page
with just HTML and CSS is static. That's why javascript is the
source of virtually all security problems. HTML is not executable.
It's only a graphical description language.


The thing that annoys me most about html is allowing a page to open a new window/tab. That should never ever have been put into the coding. When I'm using a page, I want it to stay in that tab/window. Other pages are in other tabs, leave that one in its own one!

| Sounds like the US government are rather like a couple of my neighbours.
****ing nosy. The silly thing is, they both told me they call the other one
the town gossip. When I passed this info to them both, they were
flabbergasted. "How can she call me that when she does this, ergh!"

I kind of like gossips. At least they're honest, sort of,
and they're interested in other people.


But they pass information around and annoy everybody. They're the equivalent of spying websites. Nothing you do is private anymore.

To my mind, much of the problem comes down to two
things: 1) The ability to store, organize and analyze data
and 2) beancounters. There are people who just think we
should measure everything we can. But now that it's so
systematic it becomes a threat. For instance, it was always
possible to go to City Hall and find out the ages, names,
professions of your neighbors. But it was data stored on
paper in file drawers. Now it can be easily collected and
analyzed.

If companies know where you are, the drugs you take,
the food you eat, the things you buy, the music you listen
to, the vacation spots you go to (it came out recently
that AirBnB is one of numerous companies making a side
income by selling every bit of data about their customers)
then it's hard to even imagine what all the risks might be --
from gov't, from corporations, from thieves who hack to
get that data, etc.

There was an article in the NYT recently about the rise
of data companies whose only business is to buy and sell
personal data:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/04/b...re-access.html

Crazy stuff. Google/Apple/Facebook are the most obvious,
but the business of spying and profiting from the data is
constantly growing.


Then make it a criminal act :-)

| | When you need a drill bit, a battery charger, a shirt, a tin of paint,
| etc, where do you go?
|
| Home Depot, Home Depot, Kohls, Sherwin Williams or the local
| lumber yard that sells Benj Moore. But I live near a big city, so
| it's easy for me.
|
| It's still a lot slower than just clicking things on Ebay. I can order a
wide variety of stuff in 10 minutes that would normally involve over an hour
of driving, parking, wandering around shops, and queueing at tills.

True. But I don't buy that much. And usually I want to see
before I buy. And if I go to the store I don't have to wait.


Trouble is, how many different drills does the store have? I can go to Ebay and have a choice of 3000 of them, and quickly sort by price, make, features, etc.

Then there are the ethical factors: I'm supporting local
businesses,


Why on earth would you want to do that? I'm also supporting local businesses, and often much smaller ones. You're buying from Home Depot, a large company. I'm buying from a small mail order company with about a 100th of the revenue. It might not be local to me, but it's local to somebody.

I'm thwarting spying by buying local with cash,


I can't be bothered with cash, I always use a card. Too much hassle carrying change about, especially when I forget to close th coin zip on my wallet and get into the car and find I've lost about £5 of coins under the car seat, which everyone knows means they're gone for good. I read about somebody who managed to remove his car seat and obtain about $350 of coins and various other items. Jesus Christ, can't car designers simply put a barrier to stop stuff falling down there?

and I'm not causing the use of 2 cardboard boxes and a sheet
of bubble wrap every time I buy something.


And I'm not wasting petrol and parking spaces. Anyway, those boxes are reused or recycled.
  #109  
Old November 14th 19, 01:35 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
Mayayana
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"Commander Kinsey" wrote


I've just put it back on. The first site I went to, Quora, didn't allow me
to vote for an answer or to add my own answer. The buttons did nothing. It
seems script is needed.

Well, that's that. Unfortunately, if you want the best
experience it takes some effort. There's no 1-click solution.


The thing that annoys me most about html is allowing a page to open a new
window/tab. That should never ever have been put into the coding. When I'm
using a page, I want it to stay in that tab/window. Other pages are in
other tabs, leave that one in its own one!


Firefox has settings to restrict specific script actions,
but Chrome probably doesn't, and anyway, it would
require you to research and adjust settings.


Trouble is, how many different drills does the store have? I can go to Ebay
and have a choice of 3000 of them, and quickly sort by price, make,
features, etc.


I don't know. I use one drill for work. I don't run
a drill museum.

Then there are the ethical factors: I'm supporting local
businesses,



Why on earth would you want to do that? I'm also supporting local
businesses, and often much smaller ones. You're buying from Home Depot, a
large company. I'm buying from a small mail order company with about a
100th of the revenue. It might not be local to me, but it's local to
somebody.


Yes, that's a good point. some of the stores I go to
are just big chains.

and I'm not causing the use of 2 cardboard boxes and a sheet
of bubble wrap every time I buy something.


And I'm not wasting petrol and parking spaces.


No, the UPS driver is using the gas.

Anyway, those boxes are reused or recycled.


You're dreaming on that score. Very little gets recycled. In the
US we used to send paper and cardboard to China, but they
don't want it anymore. Very few plastic bottles actually get
recycled. The whole thing is a sham. Nearly everything is going
to landfills. We're all screaming about global warming while
we drink out of 8 oz plastic, disposable water bottles, in our
SUVs, on our way to buy takeout dinner. Then we help save
the planet by getting a vegetarian meal, made
from soybeans grown with glyphosate by Monsanto farmers
in the Amazon who are stripping rainforest every two years
because the Amazom area has little topsoil and thus can't
easily support farming. Recycling is just a massive excuse for
not thinking about what we're doing. Our lifestyles are more
destructive and less sustainable than ever. Nearly everything
now is disposable.


  #110  
Old November 14th 19, 01:53 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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On Thu, 14 Nov 2019 01:35:32 -0000, Mayayana wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote


I've just put it back on. The first site I went to, Quora, didn't allow me
to vote for an answer or to add my own answer. The buttons did nothing. It
seems script is needed.

Well, that's that. Unfortunately, if you want the best
experience it takes some effort. There's no 1-click solution.


The thing that annoys me most about html is allowing a page to open a new
window/tab. That should never ever have been put into the coding. When I'm
using a page, I want it to stay in that tab/window. Other pages are in
other tabs, leave that one in its own one!


Firefox has settings to restrict specific script actions,
but Chrome probably doesn't, and anyway, it would
require you to research and adjust settings.


I installed a plugin for Opera (you keep calling it Chrome for some reason - it is based on Chrome, but it isn't Chrome). It blocks all openings of new tabs or windows. Instead I get a small dialog box top right of the screen. I can say yes, no, never, or always. The last two make that decision permanent for that website.

Trouble is, how many different drills does the store have? I can go to Ebay
and have a choice of 3000 of them, and quickly sort by price, make,
features, etc.


Your quoting sux, that was written by me, so should have more s.

I don't know. I use one drill for work. I don't run
a drill museum.


You need a choice of more than 5 to buy 1. Or you get ****. Or pay too much. My local store has about 5, ranging from a **** one for £50 to a good one for £150. I got one on Ebay that does what I need for £18, including postage.

Then there are the ethical factors: I'm supporting local
businesses,


Why on earth would you want to do that? I'm also supporting local
businesses, and often much smaller ones. You're buying from Home Depot, a
large company. I'm buying from a small mail order company with about a
100th of the revenue. It might not be local to me, but it's local to
somebody.

Yes, that's a good point. some of the stores I go to
are just big chains.

and I'm not causing the use of 2 cardboard boxes and a sheet
of bubble wrap every time I buy something.


And I'm not wasting petrol and parking spaces.


No, the UPS driver is using the gas.


But he's stopping at 50 customers. Each customer only contributes about a quarter mile of gas.

Anyway, those boxes are reused or recycled.


You're dreaming on that score. Very little gets recycled. In the
US we used to send paper and cardboard to China, but they
don't want it anymore. Very few plastic bottles actually get
recycled. The whole thing is a sham. Nearly everything is going
to landfills. We're all screaming about global warming while
we drink out of 8 oz plastic, disposable water bottles, in our
SUVs, on our way to buy takeout dinner. Then we help save
the planet by getting a vegetarian meal, made
from soybeans grown with glyphosate by Monsanto farmers
in the Amazon who are stripping rainforest every two years
because the Amazom area has little topsoil and thus can't
easily support farming. Recycling is just a massive excuse for
not thinking about what we're doing. Our lifestyles are more
destructive and less sustainable than ever. Nearly everything
now is disposable.


Well my council collects the recyclables separately. They wouldn't bother if they didn't benefit form doing so. I personally don't give a **** where it goes - if it's uneconomical to recycle, they shouldn't be doing it anyway - why use up loads of energy and water to clean and transform stuff when it uses less resources to create new ones?
  #111  
Old November 15th 19, 02:28 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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"Commander Kinsey"
newsp.0a7aqgflwdg98l@glass Wed, 13 Nov 2019 16:00:06 GMT in
alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

You two seriously need to meet and have a punchup, instead of
annoying everyone else with your petty arguments.


I find nothing petty about his hostile actions taken towards myself
and many others.

I realize you're the same guy who once went by James Wilkerson
Sword and a long since forgotten pile of other nyms.


Anything wrong with that? Your real name isn't Diesel.


Heh..

Gremlin, Casio, (redacted), Raid, Diesel
(ROFL, AnonCoward lies again, I don't have many nyms) oh, and Char
Jackson is NOT me. We're a decade or more apart in age. heh.

Granted, I've used a few myself through my online history (prior to
what you call the internet), The three between Gremlin and Diesel
were chosen specifically during my VX activities to distance myself
from my original handle, which, if you want to get real technical, is
older than my online history.

At the time, I wasn't too interested in anyone who might know me,
putting two and two together. Coding style, doesn't matter the
language(s) you use, either - anyone who can seriously reverse
engineer who has seen your legit work and has a sample of something
else that's not so.. umm, on the bright side of life can figure out
the same individuals or group of individuals are more than likely, in
some cases, outright 100%, responsible for both.

Unlike yourself though, I didn't change anything to evade filters.
Nobody is forced to read any of the posts i've written in the past or
will write in the future. Filter me, ignore me, that's always been
the readers choice. I've got the same options available when I read
usenet.

My point was that you've used a considerable amount of nyms on usenet
for the specific purpose of evading filters and keeping what you
consider opinions that wind people up going and going.

By comparison, you've been harmless. I can't state the same for me.

So, I already know
that you intentionally post stupid **** to get a rise out of
people.


No, I just have opinions that happen to wind people up.


Ok.

Your driving around using no brakes to improve fuel efficiency
thread was a ****ing riot.


I don't remember saying exactly that, but I have driven around
with no functional brakes at all. Gears and a handbrake suffice
if you're careful!


You're writing to an American who's first vehicle was a 5speed
stick shift - a handme down in .. drivable condition, but not much
else. It's brakes went out on me once, I can relate to using gears
and the ebrake (it wasn't called a parking brake yet. lol) to get it
safely stopped and off the road.

I used the gearbox to roll start the ****er for one reason or
another, many times, too. heheh.

I still prefer a stickshift, but most of my automotive friends claim
the automatic is just better. My background isn't automtive, most of
there's is, so I'm not going to argue; I've got nothing either way,
just my own personal opinion based on my own experiences owning and
driving both.

Atleast with the stick, battery goes down, I can still get it to
start - most of the time; too weak to fire my starter doesn't mean
it's too weak to run the ignition for a few seconds (until the engine
fires and the alternator takes over for me) if I can get the engine
turning for it! A stick won't leave me stuck if the starter pukes on
me either. I've been told you can do this with an automatic too, but,
if I could push the ****er upto the required mph to do it, I wouldn't
need to be pushing it in the first place. G

I'd be making whatever repairs are necessary to the main brake system
as soon as possible though. The ebrake isn't really meant for umm,
long term use in that manner. it's going to be more costly to repair
when you wear it out than a brake job for the front and back of your
car, in most cases.

I've had to have the ebrake's redone on two of my rides, so far. One
wasn't my fault. lol. It was a bit more expensive parts wise (for the
rides I had, anyway) than it would have been to do a normal brake job
on the entire truck. Don't let other people borrow your vehicle to do
things if they aren't familiar with it. Especially family members.

Emergencies and keeping it still while parked in gear on a slant are
it's primary job; not being the goto stopping device for the car.

Google David Brooks Devon stalker and read for yourself.

Pull your pants down and bend over, David wants more than a
kiss now. He's a former british navyman; get ready.

Former. I could outrun him.


He's drunk most of the time, so you're probably right even if you
aren't in good shape.


I'm in reasonable shape, but I also drink a lot.


Oh, I don't know then...




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  #112  
Old November 15th 19, 02:28 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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David Wed, 13 Nov
2019 16:36:42 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

On 13/11/2019 16:00, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:08:44 -0000, Diesel wrote:


He's drunk most of the time, so you're probably right even if you
aren't in good shape.


A lie from Dustin. I've had no alcohol since 21 March 2018.


I'm unable to confirm your claim, based on your previous history and
that of my source(s); I have to go with them on this. You may still
continue to call me a liar, if you'd like though.

Only a ****ing moron would actually believe you, at this point.

I'm in reasonable shape, but I also drink a lot.


If I was gay I'd quite fancy a young laddie like you! ;-)

I found this today-

In Bughun22/Bughunt.exe ..... PUA.WinPacker.Upx-56

Is that 'safe'?


Are you trying to slime me again with the same post, implying after all
these years that BugHunter isn't safe David?


--
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  #113  
Old November 15th 19, 02:28 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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"Commander Kinsey"
newsp.0a7alh1jwdg98l@glass Wed, 13 Nov 2019 15:57:07 GMT in
alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:08:46 -0000, Diesel
wrote:

"Commander Kinsey"
newsp.0a519wjnwdg98l@glass Tue, 12 Nov 2019 23:59:46 GMT in
alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

So, I create some high-explosives, leave them out on the
pavement, and if anyone takes one and blows up a building
killing 50 people, it wasn't my fault?


Wow. high explosives and a piece of software that self replicates
have so much in common. I had no idea. You give bat**** crazy an
all new meaning. Seriously.


So it's ok to **** up random people's computers?


I suppose if I do it per David Brooks demands because he said God
said it was okay, and to specifically ask me to do it on their
behalfs, it is.

You really are a piece of work.


**** man, if you believe that loonie mother****er, I was following
orders sent to him from the creator himself. Who am I to argue with
that? I choose to disobey and you see what that's gotten me for it,
haven't you? Ayep, the claim that no good deed goes unpunished does
have truth to it.

Yes, they are as bad as each other.


That's what I meant about you posting **** to get a rise out of
people. You're doing it again. There's no comparison between a high
explosive (christ) and a piece of software.


--
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  #114  
Old November 15th 19, 02:28 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.freeware
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Diesel
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wrote:

David Tue,
12 Nov 2019 19:25:50 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

[snip]

He was really ****ed-off that I kept a copy of the video he
naively posted of himself showing us around his computer 'Lab'.


Umm, have you been drinking ahead of your normal routine? An extra
bottle or two maybe? How is my putting a video on my own personal
website being naive? There's nothing illegal about the contents,
despite your repeated claims otherwise, many times now.

You even went so far as to claim I had a lisp of some sort. Well,
asshat, I've since posted two HV videos, one has audio... Where's
that ****ing lisp or any other speech issue you claimed I had? Oh
that's right, another ****ing lie on your part. Surprised, I am
not.

Here's an easy to remember link to my videos, David. It'll make
things a little easier for your stalking efforts in the future,
ok? Feel free to subscribe too; youtube will let you know (if you
want it to) each time I post a new video for you to leech.

https://tinyurl.com/gremlinslab

These are on youtube and I can't realistically prevent you from
making unauthorized copies and passing them around just as you did
with the edited version of the first video you knowingly
infringed, years ago. These videos won't help you to stalk me
though. Not anymore so than my lab video did.

Sadly, I lost the soundtrack - maybe he'll share a good copy with
you if you ask him nicely.


LOL. Lemme understand this (I'm ****ing around, I know what you
did already); you somehow lost the soundtrack (soundtrack? I
didn't know I'd released a movie) from the original avi file, and
yet, the video section didn't magically disappear too?

So, why were you working with the original copy you had, and what
were you doing with it that caused you to damage it? And why in
the **** did you further reduce the video quality by re-encoding
it into another format?

Here's an image which is a bit like him:-
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-v...g-man-working-
o n-computer-84544696


LOL, no it isn't. I don't expect any honesty from you though.
You've never surprised me.



crickets, again, right?



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expectations. The arrival of summer always precedes expectations.
Autumn arrives on time. Winter arrives when it wants to.
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Old November 15th 19, 07:32 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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On Fri, 15 Nov 2019 18:28:02 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

So you admit you're a childish copyright-abiding moron?


The video BD stole and uploaded to public servers was not a
commercial video. It was a private, personal video. After he stole it,
he tried to edit it to make it appear it was illegal, and failed
miserably( he deleted the audio track).
If you can't understand that's not a thing a "normal" person
would do, you're probably not posting to the right group. A cracker's
group would be more appropriate.
In fact, I fail to see why you and BD are posting to Win 10 in
the first place. Is any of this thread-related?
OT up.

---------------
BD: I want people to "get to know me better. I have nothing to
hide".
I'm always here to help, this page was put up at BD's request,
rather, he said "Do it *NOW*!":

http://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php

60 confirmed #FAKE_NYMS, most used in cybercrimes!
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Old November 15th 19, 07:36 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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On Fri, 15 Nov 2019 02:28:31 -0000, Diesel wrote:

"Commander Kinsey"
newsp.0a7alh1jwdg98l@glass Wed, 13 Nov 2019 15:57:07 GMT in
alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:08:46 -0000, Diesel
wrote:

"Commander Kinsey"
newsp.0a519wjnwdg98l@glass Tue, 12 Nov 2019 23:59:46 GMT in
alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

So, I create some high-explosives, leave them out on the
pavement, and if anyone takes one and blows up a building
killing 50 people, it wasn't my fault?

Wow. high explosives and a piece of software that self replicates
have so much in common. I had no idea. You give bat**** crazy an
all new meaning. Seriously.


So it's ok to **** up random people's computers?


I suppose if I do it per David Brooks demands because he said God
said it was okay, and to specifically ask me to do it on their
behalfs, it is.


Demands? What would he have done to you if you didn't write it? More like he asked. You could have just said no.

You really are a piece of work.


**** man, if you believe that loonie mother****er, I was following
orders sent to him from the creator himself. Who am I to argue with
that? I choose to disobey and you see what that's gotten me for it,
haven't you? Ayep, the claim that no good deed goes unpunished does
have truth to it.

Yes, they are as bad as each other.


That's what I meant about you posting **** to get a rise out of
people. You're doing it again.


Bull****. I'm posting my opinion of you and David, nothing more.

There's no comparison between a high
explosive (christ) and a piece of software.


Oh yes there is. The explosive might affect 20 people. The virus could affect a million.
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Old November 15th 19, 07:52 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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On Fri, 15 Nov 2019 02:28:28 -0000, Diesel wrote:

"Commander Kinsey"
newsp.0a7aqgflwdg98l@glass Wed, 13 Nov 2019 16:00:06 GMT in
alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

You two seriously need to meet and have a punchup, instead of
annoying everyone else with your petty arguments.


I find nothing petty about his hostile actions taken towards myself
and many others.


They're only words. Or has he threatened to set fire to your house?

I realize you're the same guy who once went by James Wilkerson
Sword and a long since forgotten pile of other nyms.


Anything wrong with that? Your real name isn't Diesel.


Heh..

Gremlin, Casio, (redacted), Raid, Diesel
(ROFL, AnonCoward lies again, I don't have many nyms) oh, and Char
Jackson is NOT me. We're a decade or more apart in age. heh.

Granted, I've used a few myself through my online history (prior to
what you call the internet), The three between Gremlin and Diesel
were chosen specifically during my VX activities to distance myself
from my original handle, which, if you want to get real technical, is
older than my online history.

At the time, I wasn't too interested in anyone who might know me,
putting two and two together. Coding style, doesn't matter the
language(s) you use, either - anyone who can seriously reverse
engineer who has seen your legit work and has a sample of something
else that's not so.. umm, on the bright side of life can figure out
the same individuals or group of individuals are more than likely, in
some cases, outright 100%, responsible for both.

Unlike yourself though, I didn't change anything to evade filters.
Nobody is forced to read any of the posts i've written in the past or
will write in the future. Filter me, ignore me, that's always been
the readers choice. I've got the same options available when I read
usenet.

My point was that you've used a considerable amount of nyms on usenet
for the specific purpose of evading filters and keeping what you
consider opinions that wind people up going and going.


I only change nym for two reasons:

1) I felt like it.
2) Someone not only filtered me, but wrote a huge essay as to why they were doing so, then prevented me from replying, which is very childish. So I change nym so they can't get the last word. Just as if I get banned from a forum, I make a fake account to reply one last time. And I've been banned for the stupidest of reasons, like saying "damn", which is apparently a swearword in certain backward religious parts of America.

By comparison, you've been harmless. I can't state the same for me.


We know you're not harmless....

So, I already know
that you intentionally post stupid **** to get a rise out of
people.


No, I just have opinions that happen to wind people up.


Ok.

Your driving around using no brakes to improve fuel efficiency
thread was a ****ing riot.


I don't remember saying exactly that, but I have driven around
with no functional brakes at all. Gears and a handbrake suffice
if you're careful!


You're writing to an American who's first vehicle was a 5speed
stick shift


In the UK we're plagued by stickshifts. The Brits are too ****ing stupid to realise autos are way better. I wonder how many accidents could be avoided at junctions by ****ty drivers who lose concentration on steering and watching for traffic because they're also changing gear? Or like my Aunt did recently, stall the car in the middle of a junction and have a bus collide with it.

- a handme down in .. drivable condition, but not much
else. It's brakes went out on me once, I can relate to using gears
and the ebrake (it wasn't called a parking brake yet. lol) to get it
safely stopped and off the road.


My Golf auto was great for slowing down without brakes. Select 1st gear and it would drop gears as soon as sensibly possible. My 3.5 litre V8 Range Rover, not so much. It was a mechanical auto box. But it was fun for wheelspins. Select N, rev fully, select D. 4 wheel wheelspin, much noise. Probably didn't do the transmission much good, but it got pedestrians out of the way.

I used the gearbox to roll start the ****er for one reason or
another, many times, too. heheh.


I've only done that once, in my current car, when the starter died. I got the first able-bodied person I found to push it along until I got to 20mph. Otherwise I just use the spare battery I keep in the back at all times, along with spare wheel, oil, water, etc.

I still prefer a stickshift, but most of my automotive friends claim
the automatic is just better. My background isn't automtive, most of
there's is, so I'm not going to argue; I've got nothing either way,
just my own personal opinion based on my own experiences owning and
driving both.


Why have a car that requires you to do more to use it? There is always a perfect gear to be in at a certain time. A computer or mechanical devices can do that just as well as you can.

Atleast with the stick, battery goes down, I can still get it to
start - most of the time; too weak to fire my starter doesn't mean
it's too weak to run the ignition for a few seconds (until the engine
fires and the alternator takes over for me) if I can get the engine
turning for it! A stick won't leave me stuck if the starter pukes on
me either. I've been told you can do this with an automatic too, but,
if I could push the ****er upto the required mph to do it, I wouldn't
need to be pushing it in the first place. G


Not sure why autos would be any more difficult to push start. But unless the starter is ****ed (very rare - and you usually know for a while beforehand that it's getting weaker), just use a spare battery or connect it to someone else's car to start it normally.

I'd be making whatever repairs are necessary to the main brake system
as soon as possible though. The ebrake isn't really meant for umm,
long term use in that manner. it's going to be more costly to repair
when you wear it out than a brake job for the front and back of your
car, in most cases.


I take it "ebrake" means electric handbrake? I've never had one, just the regular handbrakes that are **** in every way. Once a year at the annual safety test it gets fixed, then 2 weeks later, the flimsy cable stretches or something and it no longer works. People always ask me "how do you do a hill start without it?" Uh.... with the footbrake? I'm not a learner driver.

I've had to have the ebrake's redone on two of my rides, so far. One
wasn't my fault. lol. It was a bit more expensive parts wise (for the
rides I had, anyway) than it would have been to do a normal brake job
on the entire truck. Don't let other people borrow your vehicle to do
things if they aren't familiar with it. Especially family members.


Aren't familiar? Surely anyone who can drive can drive any car?

Emergencies and keeping it still while parked in gear on a slant are
it's primary job; not being the goto stopping device for the car.


I only ever use mine if on a very steep hill, otherwise the gear holds it. And in an auto, the P setting holds it on any incline anyway, so I don't know why they have handbrakes at all.
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Old November 15th 19, 07:54 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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On Fri, 15 Nov 2019 19:32:42 -0000, Shadow wrote:

On Fri, 15 Nov 2019 18:28:02 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

So you admit you're a childish copyright-abiding moron?


The video BD stole and uploaded to public servers was not a
commercial video. It was a private, personal video. After he stole it,
he tried to edit it to make it appear it was illegal, and failed
miserably( he deleted the audio track).
If you can't understand that's not a thing a "normal" person
would do, you're probably not posting to the right group. A cracker's
group would be more appropriate.
In fact, I fail to see why you and BD are posting to Win 10 in
the first place. Is any of this thread-related?
OT up.


It was not a private personal video, it was posted publicly by Dustin. If I video myself and put it on Youtube, I can't then take it down after changing my mind and moan that you kept a copy and posted it again.

---------------
BD: I want people to "get to know me better. I have nothing to
hide".
I'm always here to help, this page was put up at BD's request,
rather, he said "Do it *NOW*!":

http://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php

60 confirmed #FAKE_NYMS, most used in cybercrimes!
Google "David Brooks Devon"
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  #119  
Old November 15th 19, 08:27 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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On Sat, 09 Nov 2019 15:45:28 -0000, Mayayana wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote

| Then you're a person who has no choice but to live with
| constant surveilance and online security risks.
|
| What risks are those?

You said you use Opera, right? Which is now Chrome.
Here are 0-day risks from just last week:

https://www.securitynewspaper.com/20...n-as-possible/

The point with 0-day is that it means unknown vulnerabilities.


What exactly is zero day? I looked up the definition here, and surely all viruses are zero day? Why would you document your virus before releasing it?
https://www.techopedia.com/definitio...zero-day-virus

Many attacks now are 0-day. Keeping your browser updated
doesn't solve the problem.

Remember awhile back MS came out with a path for XP
because there was such a serious problem? EternalBlue,
WannaCry, WannaCrypt and various other names. That one's
actually a bug that requires remote desktop service enabled.
But most people don't know enough to disable that. Or they
may even use it.


I remember back in the days of Windows 2000. I worked in a University which had an open un-firewalled internet connection. If you set up a brand new computer and installed Windows 2000 on it from scratch, it would get a virus within 2 minutes, before you had a chance to install the service pack. I had to get a hold of an offline service pack to install before plugging in the network cable.

The interesting thing was that the bug was developed by
the NSA.


I'm not surprised.

This stuff has become big business and big gov't. A company
in Israel claims to be able to hack any iPhone... for a price.
The NSA comes up with 0-days so that they can't be blocked
from surveillance. Those hacks then get stolen or perhap sold.
Any clever person from anywhere in the world can potentially
make a fortune through stealing credentials, ransomware
attacks, banking trojans, cryptomining in webpages, and so on.
They just need a 0-day hack. And they can rent them!


We'd be better off with no government at all. Our current lot are more akin to the Mafia.

The more you use online functionality and commerce, the more
you're at risk. Using MS Office increases your risk.


I don't have that set to go online, for er.... some reason.

Using methods
to access your desktop remotely increases the risk. Skype and
similar tools increase the risk. Anything that allows remote
functionality means you're running executable code -- software --
over the Internet. That can never be made entirely safe.


I do that, but on my own network, I can't access them from outside my property.

Combine
that with things like online banking and you compound the problem.
Since I don't shop online or bank, there's no banking or credit data
on my computer. With the way you operate, your data is spread
among numerous websites and a vulnerability can allow it to be
intercepted.


Probably, but it's the bank's problem.

In the context of the browser, nearly all of that requires script
enabled. Without executable code it's very hard to attack you.
Script was never even intended for this usage. Microsoft started
it by allowing script to run software and ActiveX controls. (Which
are software.) That made IE powerful.


Nobody has ever said IE was better than any other browser. It's always been a piece of ****, and it's always been full of security holes. It's what you use to download the real browser on a new computer.

That allowed MS to get a monopoly with IE.


What was the point in that, since it's free?

That made script executable code. In the heyday
there were ActiveX controls,
Java, Flash.... But then security became an issue and all of that
turned out to be a disaster. Now we're like drug addicts. We've
gotten used to all that functionality and no one wants to admit
that it's a security nightmare. So we just pretend that it isn't.

Much of it is invisible. Recently it was found that Uber's website
was hacked awhile back and personal data stolen. Uber didn't
call the police. They paid the hackers $100K and got them to sign
NDAs!

https://thehackernews.com/2017/11/ub...ta-breach.html

No one is looking out for you. There's too much money on the
table for that. So you take a risk every time you enable script.
You risk more if you don't at least limit it to direct connections
with specific websites.

Think of it like driving down a narrow country road with your balls
out the window. You might be fine, for 1 mile, 10 miles, even 100
miles, but you've put yourself at risk. Hey, is that a branch sticking
out up ahead? Whack! Happy banking.


Yeah but if for some reason I required my balls to be out of the window for cooling etc, then I'd just have to take the risk.
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Old November 15th 19, 09:08 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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On Sat, 09 Nov 2019 14:03:05 -0000, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 08/11/2019 20.18, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 08 Nov 2019 00:47:09 -0000, Carlos E. R.
wrote:

On 08/11/2019 01.29, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 07 Nov 2019 22:23:28 -0000, Sjouke Burry
wrote:

On 07.11.19 21:47, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why can't someone write an adblocker that isn’t detectable?
Don't block the ad, simply download it but don't display it,
the web server wouldn't know the difference!

Why not leave the generation alone, and just print a grey
square across it? And turn the sound to zero volume, dont try
to stop them, just make them silent/invisible. That should be
quite undetectable.

Agreed. The simplest way to block them is to cover them up, yet
adblockers do stupid things like not downloading the ad at all.
I don't give a **** if a bit of my unlimited bandwidth is used
up, but I do care if the website can see I haven't downloaded the
ad, then prevents the whole page from loading. Adblockers just
aren't doing their job properly.

Actually, some of the them are downloaded to find out if they match
a filter. Then, some of us do want them not downloaded, not only
not displayed, because we may have limited bandwidth or this is
metered. That is my case this instant, as I have the laptop
tethered to my moble phone.


You are in the minority, most people are on fast connections
nowadays.


Maybe. I have a fast and unlimited connection when I'm home, but not
when I'm moving around. People that live in the country, not in a city,
may not have access to a fast or unlimited connection - even on the USA
there are many such people. Some even today have to use a modem!


I remember in the late 90s, my American friends boasted about fast internet (mainly New Yorkers), while in the UK we all had modems. Nowadays the UK seems to have rushed ahead and got almost everyone fibre internet. But the USA has stood still.

Another reason is that once they are downloaded, they do things
like run scripts to detect your actions, and that is worse than
having the add displayed. Or simply they run code to display the
actual add.


They can't detect an action if it's not there to be clicked on.


No, that is not entirely true. They can try to read the cookies present.

 




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