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Old March 25th 09, 11:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
rcfrgf
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I have 2 harddrives. One has XP on it,and the other is empty. Could I
put XP on the other drive too?
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Old March 25th 09, 11:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Tim Meddick
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Hi rcfrgf,
yes, you can. If I were you, the way I'd do it would be to
disable the current hard drive using the BIOS setup program, then you can
feel free installing XP from an installation cd on to the second drive.
Alternatively - you could use cloning software to simply copy everything on
the first drive to the second and then with a minor alteration of the
boot.ini file to include an extra entry for the second drive, you can then
boot from either copy.

--

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

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I have 2 harddrives. One has XP on it,and the other is empty. Could I
put XP on the other drive too?



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Old March 25th 09, 11:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Daave
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"rcfrgf" wrote in message
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I have 2 harddrives. One has XP on it,and the other is empty. Could I
put XP on the other drive too?


Do you mean you would like XP to simultaneously be on *both* drives? If
so, why?


  #4  
Old March 26th 09, 12:24 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
DL
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Why?
Two installations of Win, require two licences

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I have 2 harddrives. One has XP on it,and the other is empty. Could I
put XP on the other drive too?



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Old March 26th 09, 12:30 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Alias[_30_]
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DL wrote:
Why?
Two installations of Win, require two licences


But a clone or image of an install doesn't. Why?

Alias

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I have 2 harddrives. One has XP on it,and the other is empty. Could I
put XP on the other drive too?



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Old March 26th 09, 06:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
rcfrgf
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Dear Tim,
Your answer is well taken. I would like to have desktop icons for
the drives or a quick access to the second drive through the first(C) drive
or maybe the way you say.
Thank You,
RCF

"Tim Meddick" wrote:

Hi rcfrgf,
yes, you can. If I were you, the way I'd do it would be to
disable the current hard drive using the BIOS setup program, then you can
feel free installing XP from an installation cd on to the second drive.
Alternatively - you could use cloning software to simply copy everything on
the first drive to the second and then with a minor alteration of the
boot.ini file to include an extra entry for the second drive, you can then
boot from either copy.

--

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

"rcfrgf" wrote in message
news

I have 2 harddrives. One has XP on it,and the other is empty. Could I
put XP on the other drive too?




  #7  
Old March 28th 09, 04:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Tim Meddick
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The reasons for having two simultaneous copies of Windows on two separate
hard-drives are painfully obvious (to me, anyway) - One is hard-drive
failure or (more commonly) OS System (Windows) failure. I've never had a
harddisk fail on me, yet, but that doesn't mean that it won't happen some
time. I have two identical drives with everything regularly cloned from one
disk to the other. If there's something wrong with Windows not starting on
the first then I have a couple of options open to me. I could just boot from
the second and attempt to fix the problem from there or clone the backup
drive back onto the first. Either way, my data is safe.
--

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.
..

"Daave" wrote in message
...
"rcfrgf" wrote in message
news

I have 2 harddrives. One has XP on it,and the other is empty. Could I
put XP on the other drive too?


Do you mean you would like XP to simultaneously be on *both* drives? If
so, why?



  #8  
Old March 28th 09, 06:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Alias[_30_]
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Tim Meddick wrote:
The reasons for having two simultaneous copies of Windows on two separate
hard-drives are painfully obvious (to me, anyway) - One is hard-drive
failure or (more commonly) OS System (Windows) failure. I've never had a
harddisk fail on me, yet, but that doesn't mean that it won't happen some
time. I have two identical drives with everything regularly cloned from one
disk to the other. If there's something wrong with Windows not starting on
the first then I have a couple of options open to me. I could just boot from
the second and attempt to fix the problem from there or clone the backup
drive back onto the first. Either way, my data is safe.


I trust that the drive you're not using is disconnected from the
motherboard and power supply when you're not using it.

Alias
  #9  
Old March 28th 09, 06:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Tim Meddick
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Of course it's not. Can you not see the use of having two hard-drives
installed at the same time? Many self-help books on computing advise the
use of a second "back-up" drive. It'd be pretty dumb thing to do to have to
reconnect the drive every time I wanted to perform a back-up?
--

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


"Alias" wrote in message
...
Tim Meddick wrote:
The reasons for having two simultaneous copies of Windows on two separate
hard-drives are painfully obvious (to me, anyway) - One is hard-drive
failure or (more commonly) OS System (Windows) failure. I've never had a
harddisk fail on me, yet, but that doesn't mean that it won't happen some
time. I have two identical drives with everything regularly cloned from
one disk to the other. If there's something wrong with Windows not
starting on the first then I have a couple of options open to me. I could
just boot from the second and attempt to fix the problem from there or
clone the backup drive back onto the first. Either way, my data is safe.


I trust that the drive you're not using is disconnected from the
motherboard and power supply when you're not using it.

Alias



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Old March 28th 09, 07:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Alias[_30_]
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Tim Meddick wrote:
Of course it's not. Can you not see the use of having two hard-drives
installed at the same time? Many self-help books on computing advise the
use of a second "back-up" drive. It'd be pretty dumb thing to do to have to
reconnect the drive every time I wanted to perform a back-up?


They're both on the same bus and both could be nuked at the same time.
Use a USB external hard drive for back ups and keep your second drive
safe by not having it connected to *anything*. Occasionally fire it up
to update it. As your data will be on an external drive, no need to back
that up to the second internal drive unless you have to use it.

Alias

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

"Alias" wrote in message
...
Tim Meddick wrote:
The reasons for having two simultaneous copies of Windows on two

separate
hard-drives are painfully obvious (to me, anyway) - One is

hard-drive
failure or (more commonly) OS System (Windows) failure. I've

never had a
harddisk fail on me, yet, but that doesn't mean that it won't

happen some
time. I have two identical drives with everything regularly

cloned from
one disk to the other. If there's something wrong with Windows not
starting on the first then I have a couple of options open to me.

I could
just boot from the second and attempt to fix the problem from

there or
clone the backup drive back onto the first. Either way, my data

is safe.

I trust that the drive you're not using is disconnected from the
motherboard and power supply when you're not using it.

Alias




  #11  
Old March 28th 09, 07:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mike Torello
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"Tim Meddick" wrote:

Of course it's not. Can you not see the use of having two hard-drives
installed at the same time? Many self-help books on computing advise the
use of a second "back-up" drive. It'd be pretty dumb thing to do to have to
reconnect the drive every time I wanted to perform a back-up?


"Alias" has exposed himself to be a fool - again.

One of my three spare internal drives is a clone of my Vista system
drive and is updated nightly. Another has a fully-updated XP system
on it.



"Alias" wrote in message
...

I trust that the drive you're not using is disconnected from the
motherboard and power supply when you're not using it.

Alias

  #12  
Old March 28th 09, 07:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
NotEvenMe
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if you do regular backups, what is the problem?
but if you really worry about drive failure, setup raid mirror drives, then
you will have identical drives with the OS and settings.
then get another 2 drives and set them up for your data.
if a drive fails, you have an exact copy.
when you get a lightening strike, it will all be gone anyway, so bakup also.

"Tim Meddick" wrote in message
...
The reasons for having two simultaneous copies of Windows on two separate
hard-drives are painfully obvious (to me, anyway) - One is hard-drive
failure or (more commonly) OS System (Windows) failure. I've never had a
harddisk fail on me, yet, but that doesn't mean that it won't happen some
time. I have two identical drives with everything regularly cloned from
one disk to the other. If there's something wrong with Windows not
starting on the first then I have a couple of options open to me. I could
just boot from the second and attempt to fix the problem from there or
clone the backup drive back onto the first. Either way, my data is safe.
--

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.
.

"Daave" wrote in message
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"rcfrgf" wrote in message
news

I have 2 harddrives. One has XP on it,and the other is empty. Could I
put XP on the other drive too?


Do you mean you would like XP to simultaneously be on *both* drives? If
so, why?





  #13  
Old March 28th 09, 10:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Unknown
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I don't see why you call Alias a fool. It is much safer and logical to use
an external drive for backup.
What Alias stated is true.
"Mike Torello" wrote in message
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"Tim Meddick" wrote:

Of course it's not. Can you not see the use of having two hard-drives
installed at the same time? Many self-help books on computing advise the
use of a second "back-up" drive. It'd be pretty dumb thing to do to have
to
reconnect the drive every time I wanted to perform a back-up?


"Alias" has exposed himself to be a fool - again.

One of my three spare internal drives is a clone of my Vista system
drive and is updated nightly. Another has a fully-updated XP system
on it.



"Alias" wrote in message
...

I trust that the drive you're not using is disconnected from the
motherboard and power supply when you're not using it.

Alias



  #14  
Old March 28th 09, 10:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mike Torello
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"Unknown" wrote:

I don't see why you call Alias a fool.


You're right... I meant TROLL.

It is much safer and logical to use
an external drive for backup.


You're assuming that my cloned internal drive is my only backup, fool
(which you are for assuming). It is there in case my main system
drive completely fails/dies so I can be up and running again in
seconds.

I also have another internal drive with multiple ATI images for other
backup/restore purposes.

And those images are also stored on a USB drive that is kept
disconnected except when backup images are copied to it.

What Alias stated is true.


No.


"Mike Torello" wrote in message
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"Tim Meddick" wrote:

Of course it's not. Can you not see the use of having two hard-drives
installed at the same time? Many self-help books on computing advise the
use of a second "back-up" drive. It'd be pretty dumb thing to do to have
to
reconnect the drive every time I wanted to perform a back-up?


"Alias" has exposed himself to be a fool - again.

One of my three spare internal drives is a clone of my Vista system
drive and is updated nightly. Another has a fully-updated XP system
on it.



"Alias" wrote in message
...

I trust that the drive you're not using is disconnected from the
motherboard and power supply when you're not using it.

Alias


  #15  
Old March 29th 09, 12:30 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Tim Meddick
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I don't see why it being connected to the same bus means that they will both
fail. The most common cause of hard-drive failure is what is called a
"head-crash", that is, when the read/write head actually comes into physical
contact with the magnetic media itself. This renders both unusable from
then on. Other causes include imperfections in the magnetic media. I've
not heard of the PCI BUS being particularly responsible for hard drive
failures. As Mike Torello said, with a secondary internal drive, I can be
back up and running in a couple of ticks! Frankly, I think you're talking
out of your hat when you criticize people needlessly. In the end, none of
what you say is writ in stone - it's all a matter of personal preference to
what sort of back-up measures you have, as long as you have some - that is
the main thing, isn't it?
--

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


"Alias" wrote in message
...
Tim Meddick wrote:
Of course it's not. Can you not see the use of having two hard-drives
installed at the same time? Many self-help books on computing advise the
use of a second "back-up" drive. It'd be pretty dumb thing to do to have
to reconnect the drive every time I wanted to perform a back-up?


They're both on the same bus and both could be nuked at the same time. Use
a USB external hard drive for back ups and keep your second drive safe by
not having it connected to *anything*. Occasionally fire it up to update
it. As your data will be on an external drive, no need to back that up to
the second internal drive unless you have to use it.

Alias

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

"Alias" wrote in message
...
Tim Meddick wrote:
The reasons for having two simultaneous copies of Windows on two

separate
hard-drives are painfully obvious (to me, anyway) - One is

hard-drive
failure or (more commonly) OS System (Windows) failure. I've

never had a
harddisk fail on me, yet, but that doesn't mean that it won't

happen some
time. I have two identical drives with everything regularly

cloned from
one disk to the other. If there's something wrong with Windows not
starting on the first then I have a couple of options open to me.

I could
just boot from the second and attempt to fix the problem from

there or
clone the backup drive back onto the first. Either way, my data

is safe.

I trust that the drive you're not using is disconnected from the
motherboard and power supply when you're not using it.

Alias






 




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