windows vs. msn messenger - whats the difference

help - have latest versions of both installed on my PC,
buyt not sure what differences between the two and which
is the best to use?
Any suggestions

Greetings Hamish,


There are several differences between the two. Most notably, MSN Messenger 6 has support for
display pictures, custom emoticons, has a different interface, etc. whereas Windows Messenger
supports SIP-based communications services, Exchange IM Server, etc. Which one you use is up
to you, and a matter of personal choice (and based upon your needs and likes), however one
thing to keep in mind, Windows Messenger must still be installed on Windows XP in order for
MSN Messenger to retain full functionality (Remote Assistance, Whiteboard, Application
Sharing, etc.).

MSN Messenger is centered around MSN technologies (Hotmail, MSN Member Profiles, MSN Mobile,
etc.) whereas Windows Messenger is centered around Windows technologies (Exchange Server,
Office Live Communications Server, Windows Netmeeting, etc.).

Both clients however can make use of Microsoft technologies, like the .NET Messenger service,
..NET Passport and .NET Alerts.

Windows Messenger and MSN Messenger are *separate* products, as such, there are capabilities
that Windows Messenger has that MSN Messenger does not (and vice versa), one is not "better"
then the other.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"hamish bell" wrote in message
...
help - have latest versions of both installed on my PC,
buyt not sure what differences between the two and which
is the best to use?
Any suggestions

Hi Jonathan,

Jonathan Kay [MVP] wrote:
There are several differences between the two. Most notably, MSN
Messenger 6 has support for display pictures, custom emoticons, has a
different interface, etc. whereas Windows Messenger supports
SIP-based communications services, Exchange IM Server, etc. Which
one you use is up to you, and a matter of personal choice (and based
upon your needs and likes), however one thing to keep in mind,
Windows Messenger must still be installed on Windows XP in order for
MSN Messenger to retain full functionality (Remote Assistance,
Whiteboard, Application Sharing, etc.).
[...]

what do you think about an own article about the differences on
your site?

Regards
--
Thomas Wenzl [MVP for Outlook]

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Hi Thomas,

If you mean why isn't it on my site, you'll have to contact me directly.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Thomas Wenzl [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Hi Jonathan,

Jonathan Kay [MVP] wrote:
There are several differences between the two. Most notably, MSN
Messenger 6 has support for display pictures, custom emoticons, has a
different interface, etc. whereas Windows Messenger supports
SIP-based communications services, Exchange IM Server, etc. Which
one you use is up to you, and a matter of personal choice (and based
upon your needs and likes), however one thing to keep in mind,
Windows Messenger must still be installed on Windows XP in order for
MSN Messenger to retain full functionality (Remote Assistance,
Whiteboard, Application Sharing, etc.).
[...]

what do you think about an own article about the differences on
your site?

Regards
--
Thomas Wenzl [MVP for Outlook]

Share what you know, learn what you don't!
(Deja/Google)

Hi Thomas,

If you mean why isn't it on my site, you'll have to contact me directly.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Thomas Wenzl [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Hi Jonathan,

Jonathan Kay [MVP] wrote:
There are several differences between the two. Most notably, MSN
Messenger 6 has support for display pictures, custom emoticons, has a
different interface, etc. whereas Windows Messenger supports
SIP-based communications services, Exchange IM Server, etc. Which
one you use is up to you, and a matter of personal choice (and based
upon your needs and likes), however one thing to keep in mind,
Windows Messenger must still be installed on Windows XP in order for
MSN Messenger to retain full functionality (Remote Assistance,
Whiteboard, Application Sharing, etc.).
[...]

what do you think about an own article about the differences on
your site?

Regards
--
Thomas Wenzl [MVP for Outlook]

Share what you know, learn what you don't!
(Deja/Google)

Hi,

If I have Windows Messenger on my computer and my friend
has MSN Messenger, can we still communicate online?

Is it a must that Windows Messenger only "talk" to
Windows Messenger?

Thanks

Ray


-----Original Message-----
Greetings Hamish,


There are several differences between the two. Most
notably, MSN Messenger 6 has support for
display pictures, custom emoticons, has a different
interface, etc. whereas Windows Messenger
supports SIP-based communications services, Exchange IM
Server, etc. Which one you use is up
to you, and a matter of personal choice (and based upon
your needs and likes), however one
thing to keep in mind, Windows Messenger must still be
installed on Windows XP in order for
MSN Messenger to retain full functionality (Remote
Assistance, Whiteboard, Application
Sharing, etc.).

MSN Messenger is centered around MSN technologies
(Hotmail, MSN Member Profiles, MSN Mobile,
etc.) whereas Windows Messenger is centered around
Windows technologies (Exchange Server,
Office Live Communications Server, Windows Netmeeting,
etc.).

Both clients however can make use of Microsoft
technologies, like the .NET Messenger service,
..NET Passport and .NET Alerts.

Windows Messenger and MSN Messenger are *separate*
products, as such, there are capabilities
that Windows Messenger has that MSN Messenger does not
(and vice versa), one is not "better"
then the other.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"hamish bell" wrote in
message
...
help - have latest versions of both installed on my PC,
buyt not sure what differences between the two and
which
is the best to use?
Any suggestions


.

Hi Ray,

Ray wrote:
If I have Windows Messenger on my computer and my friend
has MSN Messenger, can we still communicate online?

Is it a must that Windows Messenger only "talk" to
Windows Messenger?

no. All people that want to communicate through instant
messaging have to use the same instant messaging service
(or instant messaging protocol).

For Windows and MSN Messenger this service is called
..NET Messenger Service. All what you need is a .NET
Passport account (http://www.passport.com/), but you
can use both Windows Messenger and MSN Messenger.

There are 3rd party clients around that also support the .NET
Messenger Service protocol (and mostly AOL, ICQ and others,
too).

But if you want to communicate through Exchange Instant
Messaging Service (RVP protocol) or Office Live Communications
Server (LCS), you have to use Windows Messenger,
since this is the only product supporting this protocols at the time.

The SIP/SIMPLE/RTP protocols that are used by LCS are industry
standard protocols and can be implemented by any other client,
too. But until now I don't know of any other client application supporting
those protocols and NTLM/Kerberos authentication.

Regards
--
Thomas Wenzl [MVP for Outlook]

Share what you know, learn what you don't!
(Deja/Google)

Hi Thomas,

Thanks for your clarification.

Ray


-----Original Message-----
Hi Ray,

Ray wrote:
If I have Windows Messenger on my computer and my
friend
has MSN Messenger, can we still communicate online?

Is it a must that Windows Messenger only "talk" to
Windows Messenger?

no. All people that want to communicate through instant
messaging have to use the same instant messaging service
(or instant messaging protocol).

For Windows and MSN Messenger this service is called
..NET Messenger Service. All what you need is a .NET
Passport account (http://www.passport.com/), but you
can use both Windows Messenger and MSN Messenger.

There are 3rd party clients around that also support
the .NET
Messenger Service protocol (and mostly AOL, ICQ and
others,
too).

But if you want to communicate through Exchange Instant
Messaging Service (RVP protocol) or Office Live
Communications
Server (LCS), you have to use Windows Messenger,
since this is the only product supporting this protocols
at the time.

The SIP/SIMPLE/RTP protocols that are used by LCS are
industry
standard protocols and can be implemented by any other
client,
too. But until now I don't know of any other client
application supporting
those protocols and NTLM/Kerberos authentication.

Regards
--
Thomas Wenzl [MVP for Outlook]

Share what you know, learn what you don't!
(Deja/Google)
.