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"Dan Purgert" wrote

| So MS pretended .Net was good for Desktop
| software. Then with the arrival of Metro trinket apps (the
| world of giant GUI buttons linking to online services and
| Microsoft store applets) MS pretended that .Net was just
|
| Was Metro the Win 8 UI? That was what made me sign off Windows
| permanently.
|
Yes. For some reason they suddenly ditched that
name. Maybe people in the Midwest didn't cotton
to it? I don't know. I think the next name was "Modern"
UI. A typical, passive-aggressive Microsoft language
hijack. Calling it modern made everything else out of
date. And there was the world of WinRT, which I don't
think was ever defined. Lately I think they're talking
about "universal apps", but it's hard to keep track.
I suppose the idea of universal was that they run
everywhe phones, tablets, desktops... In reality
they're limited trinket apps that run in Metro on
Win8/10 desktops, because that's the only Metro
there is. (There are a limited number of tabletty things,
and the Surface, but as far as I know those are all
just full Windows OS with really bad ergonomics.)

| If you're up for another go at Linux sometime - you can also check the
| site https://alternativeto.net, and search for alternatives to your
| current suite of applications. There's not always a "this is just as
| good" option though.
|

Thanks. That looks like a useful site for any OS.
I might very well end up using Linux again. It probably
depends on how difficult it becomes to stick with
Windows, rather than how good Linux becomes.

Mayayana wrote:
"Dan Purgert" wrote

| So MS pretended .Net was good for Desktop
| software. Then with the arrival of Metro trinket apps (the
| world of giant GUI buttons linking to online services and
| Microsoft store applets) MS pretended that .Net was just
|
| Was Metro the Win 8 UI? That was what made me sign off Windows
| permanently.
|
Yes. For some reason they suddenly ditched that
name. Maybe people in the Midwest didn't cotton
to it? I don't know. I think the next name was "Modern"

Me neither. I just remember it was clunky and always in the way. So
"nope, I'm done."

Win XP was by far my favorite, 7 wasn't that bad either.

[...]
| If you're up for another go at Linux sometime - you can also check the
| site https://alternativeto.net, and search for alternatives to your
| current suite of applications. There's not always a "this is just as
| good" option though.
|

Thanks. That looks like a useful site for any OS.
I might very well end up using Linux again. It probably
depends on how difficult it becomes to stick with
Windows, rather than how good Linux becomes.

Yep, the general consensus of the people leaving seems to be "MS went
too far now." Really, both options (barring the MS telemetry stupids)
are probably equally "good" in terms of 'an OS'.




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On 08/04/2018 11:01 AM, Dan Purgert wrote:
Wolf K wrote:
Oh, I admit I'm not a Linux expert. After all, I only try the latest
Mint about once a year. I like it a lot, but it won't run WordPerfect,
and that's a deal-breaker. I can't stand Word and its work-alikes, and
avoid them as much as possible.

If there's anyone here who runs WordPerfect under WINE, I'd like to hear
from them.

I've never used it myself (so I don't know what differences it has
between "Word and work-alikes"); but perhaps one of the options here may
be of interest:

https://alternativeto.net/software/c...platform=linux

HTH


The big problem is WordPerfect had a Linux version. Then MS bought into
Corel and all Corel Linux development stopped. I think this was around 2000.
I do have a copy of the Linux version of WordPerfect8. I haven't got it
working on Ubuntu 16.04. It was released in 1998. Then in 2000 WP9 for
Linux was released. Hasn't been another one sense. Notice the timing.

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On 08/04/2018 12:17 PM, Mayayana wrote:
"Wolf K" wrote

| If there's anyone here who runs WordPerfect under WINE, I'd like to hear
| from them.
|
Whatever info there is should be he

https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManag...cation&iId=530



I already searched there and there's no listing for WordPerfect. Doesn't
mean it won't just shows that maybe no one has tried. Or tried and
succeeded.

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"Caver1" wrote

| Whatever info there is should be he
|
| https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManag...cation&iId=530
|
|
|
| I already searched there and there's no listing for WordPerfect. Doesn't
| mean it won't just shows that maybe no one has tried. Or tried and
| succeeded.
|
?? That link is directly to the WordPerfect listing.

In article , Mayayana
wrote:

| Was Metro the Win 8 UI? That was what made me sign off Windows
| permanently.
|
Yes. For some reason they suddenly ditched that
name. Maybe people in the Midwest didn't cotton
to it? I don't know.

or maybe they switched due to a potential lawsuit and gag order.

https://www.engadget.com/2012/08/02/...etro-design-na
me-might-be-facing-a-lawsuit/
Digging a little deeper, there's murmurs that the shift might not be
voluntary. Both Ars Technica and The Verge hear from unverified
sources that German retailer Metro AG might waving its legal guns and
forcing Microsoft to quiet down over a potential (if questionable)
trademark dispute.

In alt.comp.os.windows-10 Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
On Sat, 04 Aug 2018 10:58:24 -0500
(Ant) wrote:

And I'm an ant all the time. :P

An ant's gender may be determined by placing the ant into water.

If it sinks, girl ant.

If it floats, buoyant.

Cybe R. Wizard

Hahaha. Who said that joke? You? Hmm, I do sink. :/
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On 08/04/2018 01:45 PM, Mayayana wrote:
"Caver1" wrote

| Whatever info there is should be he
|
| https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManag...cation&iId=530
|
|
|
| I already searched there and there's no listing for WordPerfect. Doesn't
| mean it won't just shows that maybe no one has tried. Or tried and
| succeeded.
|
?? That link is directly to the WordPerfect listing.



That's strange. Maybe winehq didn't want me to find it. I did a search
for WordPerfect and the search came back with a blank results page.
That's life.

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On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 16:08:24 -0400
Caver1 wrote:

On 08/04/2018 01:45 PM, Mayayana wrote:
"Caver1" wrote
| Whatever info there is should be he
|
| https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManag...cation&iId=530
|
|
|
| I already searched there and there's no listing for WordPerfect.
| Doesn't mean it won't just shows that maybe no one has tried. Or
| tried and succeeded.
|
?? That link is directly to the WordPerfect listing.

That's strange. Maybe winehq didn't want me to find it. I did a
search for WordPerfect and the search came back with a blank results
page. That's life.

Why not (try to) use the last WordPerfect for Linux? Find it (and some
caveats) he
https://www.tldp.org/FAQ/WordPerfect...wnloadwp8.html

/PLEASE/ read the caveats and warnings, though.

Cybe R. Wizard
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"Caver1" wrote

| ?? That link is directly to the WordPerfect listing.
|
| That's strange. Maybe winehq didn't want me to find it. I did a search
| for WordPerfect and the search came back with a blank results page.
| That's life.
|

It does seem a bit odd. I think I found it
by searching specifically under Gold, after
a Platinum search yilded nothing. I like
their system, though. It's well organized
and doesn't require javascript.

In alt.comp.os.windows-10 Dan Purgert wrote:
Mayayana wrote:
"Dan Purgert" wrote

| So MS pretended .Net was good for Desktop
| software. Then with the arrival of Metro trinket apps (the
| world of giant GUI buttons linking to online services and
| Microsoft store applets) MS pretended that .Net was just
|
| Was Metro the Win 8 UI? That was what made me sign off Windows
| permanently.
|
Yes. For some reason they suddenly ditched that
name. Maybe people in the Midwest didn't cotton
to it? I don't know. I think the next name was "Modern"

Me neither. I just remember it was clunky and always in the way. So
"nope, I'm done."

Win XP was by far my favorite, 7 wasn't that bad either.

What about 2K? IMO, 2K was the best.
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Ant wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10 Dan Purgert wrote:
Mayayana wrote:
"Dan Purgert" wrote

| So MS pretended .Net was good for Desktop
| software. Then with the arrival of Metro trinket apps (the
| world of giant GUI buttons linking to online services and
| Microsoft store applets) MS pretended that .Net was just
|
| Was Metro the Win 8 UI? That was what made me sign off Windows
| permanently.
|
Yes. For some reason they suddenly ditched that
name. Maybe people in the Midwest didn't cotton
to it? I don't know. I think the next name was "Modern"

Me neither. I just remember it was clunky and always in the way. So
"nope, I'm done."

Win XP was by far my favorite, 7 wasn't that bad either.

What about 2K? IMO, 2K was the best.

Honestly, I skipped right over it from 98SE to XP ... so, I didn't
really use it.


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On 08/04/2018 04:19 PM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 16:08:24 -0400
Caver1 wrote:

On 08/04/2018 01:45 PM, Mayayana wrote:
"Caver1" wrote
| Whatever info there is should be he
|
| https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManag...cation&iId=530
|
|
|
| I already searched there and there's no listing for WordPerfect.
| Doesn't mean it won't just shows that maybe no one has tried. Or
| tried and succeeded.
|
?? That link is directly to the WordPerfect listing.

That's strange. Maybe winehq didn't want me to find it. I did a
search for WordPerfect and the search came back with a blank results
page. That's life.

Why not (try to) use the last WordPerfect for Linux? Find it (and some
caveats) he
https://www.tldp.org/FAQ/WordPerfect...wnloadwp8.html

/PLEASE/ read the caveats and warnings, though.

Cybe R. Wizard


I do have that version.
What I understand is that WP8 needs a 32bit system. I'm not sure why at
this point as most 64bit systems can run 32bit apps.
I lost interest awhile back. This thread made me regain interest to a point.
Don't really need it, just like a lot of other apps, just want to see if
I can get it working. Then I'll probably remove it.


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On 08/04/2018 04:27 PM, Mayayana wrote:
"Caver1" wrote

| ?? That link is directly to the WordPerfect listing.
|
| That's strange. Maybe winehq didn't want me to find it. I did a search
| for WordPerfect and the search came back with a blank results page.
| That's life.
|

It does seem a bit odd. I think I found it
by searching specifically under Gold, after
a Platinum search yilded nothing. I like
their system, though. It's well organized
and doesn't require javascript.



Yes they do give a lot of helpful information.

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In alt.os.linux Dan Purgert wrote:
Ant wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10 Dan Purgert wrote:
Mayayana wrote:
"Dan Purgert" wrote

| So MS pretended .Net was good for Desktop
| software. Then with the arrival of Metro trinket apps (the
| world of giant GUI buttons linking to online services and
| Microsoft store applets) MS pretended that .Net was just
|
| Was Metro the Win 8 UI? That was what made me sign off Windows
| permanently.
|
Yes. For some reason they suddenly ditched that
name. Maybe people in the Midwest didn't cotton
to it? I don't know. I think the next name was "Modern"

Me neither. I just remember it was clunky and always in the way. So
"nope, I'm done."

Win XP was by far my favorite, 7 wasn't that bad either.

What about 2K? IMO, 2K was the best.

Honestly, I skipped right over it from 98SE to XP ... so, I didn't
really use it.

Ah. I wonder if would had liked it. It's bascially XP's classic theme.
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