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Old August 4th 18, 10:36 PM posted to alt.test,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Welcome to Administrative Audit unit office
Address: 11th Floor Federal Secretariat,
Central Business District
FCT Abuja, Nigeria

Attention my dear Beneficiary

In the course of our investigation, your email address were
shortlisted among the first fifteen individuals yet to be paid their
overdue Re-compensation funds worth US$2,800,000.00.The Re-compensation
funds been successfully accredited in your favor through BANK SWIFT
CARD which you can withdraw in any ATM Machine World wide nearest to
you.

However, we received a Complained today from Mrs. Christina Morgan
that you are dead. According to her, you died in Road accidents as such
your Fund should be ship to her as the apparent heir. If we fail to
hear from you after 48 hours, it will be assumed that the complains of
Mrs.Morgan is true and the fund will be delivered to her without
further delay. Contact the Director of Audit to verify this from the
Administrative Audit unit.

And all the necessary documents of the delivery will hands over to her
immediately. If we fail to hear from you after 48 hours, and she also
wanted to paid the delivery fee of the ATM DEBITS CARD right now but we
told her that we will investigation the matters weather true or lie.


To avoid undue delay or delivery the fund to wrong individual, we have
decided to contact you for confirmation.Your
personal information is also required immediately as below which will
be needed for confirmations before we transfer the funds to her.

(A) Full name.........
(B) country...........
(C) Residential address.......
(D) Active Telephone numbers......
(E) YOUR ID........
(F) Ocupation..........

we are waiting to hear from you soon, if you are still alive.

best Regards:
Barr. Alberto Lancioli

Director audit unit
EMail:
EMail:


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  #302  
Old August 4th 18, 10:43 PM posted to alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Sat, 04 Aug 2018 10:17:50 -0400, Wolf K wrote:

On 2018-08-04 07:51, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 04/08/18 01:30, Caver1 wrote:
On 08/03/2018 08:13 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-08-03 19:25, Caver1 wrote:
[...]
Windows is closed as far as the OS. OSX is completely closed, OS and
apps.
Linux is completely open. Yes different Families of Linux, Redhat,
Debian, Arch... Have their own package managers. This is because of
different OS structures.

I was under the impression that Linux is Linux wherever you go. Thanks
for clarifying that it's just like the closed Windows: stuff that will
run one version won't necessarily run on anther.



So asking the different families to have the same way to install apps
or app structure would be like saying Windows and OSX be able to use
the same app structure.

Isn't Linux just Linux? Or have the freewheeling devs actually
"forked" it into mutually incompatible OSs? Jeez, but that was a
stupid idea. I hadn't clue it was that bad. Really.

Nothing bad about it.
No each family is basically an OS to itself. None of the Linux families
are a fork of the other. They were each developed independently.

What the fork were they smoking?

Something better than MS and Apple.

Now with the development of Snaps and Flatpak the Linux world is far
ahead of the Windows and OSX world.
Just try installing a Windows app on OSX or vice versa.

Yeah, well, I've long argued that any program should be able to run on
any OS. After all, C++ is C++ on every machine. Just put in a "Let's
talk nice to each other" layer between the program and the OS. Good to
know that Linux is getting there, despite having been forked with.


This just shows your ignorance of the Linux environment.


It just shows his ignorance, full stop.

[...]

Oh, I admit I'm not a Linux expert. After all, I only try the latest Mint
about once a year. I like it a lot, but it won't run WordPerfect, and
that's a deal-breaker. I can't stand Word and its work-alikes, and avoid
them as much as possible.

If there's anyone here who runs WordPerfect under WINE, I'd like to hear
from them.


Some versions of WordPerfect run under CrossoverOffice:
https://www.codeweavers.com/compatib...me=WordPerfect




  #303  
Old August 4th 18, 10:44 PM posted to alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Ant wrote:
In alt.os.linux Dan Purgert wrote:
Ant wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10 Dan Purgert wrote:
Mayayana wrote:
"Dan Purgert" wrote

| So MS pretended .Net was good for Desktop
| software. Then with the arrival of Metro trinket apps (the
| world of giant GUI buttons linking to online services and
| Microsoft store applets) MS pretended that .Net was just
|
| Was Metro the Win 8 UI? That was what made me sign off Windows
| permanently.
|
Yes. For some reason they suddenly ditched that
name. Maybe people in the Midwest didn't cotton
to it? I don't know. I think the next name was "Modern"

Me neither. I just remember it was clunky and always in the way. So
"nope, I'm done."

Win XP was by far my favorite, 7 wasn't that bad either.

What about 2K? IMO, 2K was the best.


Honestly, I skipped right over it from 98SE to XP ... so, I didn't
really use it.


Ah. I wonder if would had liked it. It's bascially XP's classic theme.


Probably - I liked the 98SE look. And I remember using PCs that had 2k
on it. I just never had one of them.


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  #304  
Old August 5th 18, 01:35 AM posted to alt.test,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 08/04/2018 4:36 PM, Alberto wrote:
Welcome to Administrative Audit unit office
Address: 11th Floor Federal Secretariat,
Central Business District
FCT Abuja, Nigeria

Attention my dear Beneficiary

In the course of our investigation, your email address were
shortlisted among the first fifteen individuals yet to be paid their
overdue Re-compensation funds worth US$2,800,000.00.The Re-compensation
funds been successfully accredited in your favor through BANK SWIFT
CARD which you can withdraw in any ATM Machine World wide nearest to
you.

However, we received a Complained today from Mrs. Christina Morgan
that you are dead. According to her, you died in Road accidents as such
your Fund should be ship to her as the apparent heir. If we fail to
hear from you after 48 hours, it will be assumed that the complains of
Mrs.Morgan is true and the fund will be delivered to her without
further delay. Contact the Director of Audit to verify this from the
Administrative Audit unit.

And all the necessary documents of the delivery will hands over to her
immediately. If we fail to hear from you after 48 hours, and she also
wanted to paid the delivery fee of the ATM DEBITS CARD right now but we
told her that we will investigation the matters weather true or lie.


To avoid undue delay or delivery the fund to wrong individual, we have
decided to contact you for confirmation.Your
personal information is also required immediately as below which will
be needed for confirmations before we transfer the funds to her.



(A) Full name......... Joe Blow
(B) country........... On the border
(C) Residential address....... 123456 nowhere Ave
(D) Active Telephone numbers...... same as address
(E) YOUR ID........ same as phone number
(F) Ocupation.......... ****ing you off




we are waiting to hear from you soon, if you are still alive.

best Regards:
Barr. Alberto Lancioli

Director audit unit
EMail:
EMail:



  #305  
Old August 5th 18, 02:02 AM posted to alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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"Dan Purgert" wrote

| Honestly, I skipped right over it from 98SE to XP ... so, I didn't
| really use it.
|

I did the same, sticking with 98 for as long as
possible. I thought XP required a lot of taming,
but once I got settled I found it was much more
stable and hearty than Win98, able to handle
more load.

I ended up feeling similarly with 7: After a couple
weeks of exploring I decided that it's basically
salvageable, but not preferable. I'm still on XP
for most things.

When I tried 8 it just seemed too far gone to
bother with. On a single-core 1 GHz machine it
barely managed to sit there. And Metro was such
an irrelevant monstrosity. Then Win10... a rental
spyware version of 8.... at that point I gave up on
using a future version of Windows. Though I
suspect 8 could be salvaged in a pinch.



  #306  
Old August 5th 18, 02:02 AM posted to alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Rene Lamontagne wrote:

(A) Full name......... Joe Blow
(B) country........... On the border
(C) Residential address....... 123456 nowhere Ave
(D) Active Telephone numbers...... same as address
(E) YOUR ID........ same as phone number
(F) Ocupation.......... ****ing you off


You realize the poster is in "alt.privacy.anon-server"
and wants you to stop cross-posting to that group.

Notice the Newsgroups list was slightly changed
to alt.test, and your response went there instead
of to alt.privacy.anon-server .

Keep your newsgroup field display turned on...
To receive the full effect... (USENET in 3D)

It's not an actual MMF. Or a Nigerian prince
down on his luck. (There actually is a Nigerian
oil prince, but he's worth about $2 billion. So
if some guy needs $300 Wells Fargo in exchange for
$2 billion in oil funds, that one will be for real :-) )

Paul
  #307  
Old August 5th 18, 02:21 AM posted to alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Rene Lamontagne
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On 08/04/2018 8:02 PM, Paul wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:

(A) Full name......... Joe Blow
(B) country........... On the border
(C) Residential address....... 123456 nowhere Ave
(D) Active Telephone numbers...... same as address
(E) YOUR ID........ same as phone number
(F) Ocupation.......... ****ing you off


You realize the poster is in "alt.privacy.anon-server"
and wants you to stop cross-posting to that group.

Notice the Newsgroups list was slightly changed
to alt.test, and your response went there instead
of to alt.privacy.anon-server .

Keep your newsgroup field display turned on...
To receive the full effect... (USENET in 3D)

It's not an actual MMF. Or a Nigerian prince
down on his luck. (There actually is a Nigerian
oil prince, but he's worth about $2 billion. So
if some guy needs $300 Wells Fargo in exchange for
$2 billion in oil funds, that one will be for real :-) )

Â*Â* Paul


Yeah, I had the field turned off to add 2 more lines to my message space.
Funny how these would be shysters never learn.

Rene

  #308  
Old August 5th 18, 04:21 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2018-08-02, mike wrote:
On 8/2/2018 5:17 AM, Caver1 wrote:

Please list those distros; CURRENT version.
Enumerate the GUI tools to:
Seamlessly integrate with a windows network


If you need a tool to do that it's not seamless.
What does that even mean?

Share the desktop, either direction, with windows


assuming you actually mean "Windows": vinagre, teamviewer...

Install software (It's amazing that some distros require
the command line to install a GUI software installer.)


eg: Synaptic?

Configure a firewall, on the fly, as new situations are encountered


eg: gufw ?

Then, there's the whole nightmare of hardware drivers that actually
enable all the functions of hardware devices that don't come with
linux drivers.

I got this far without even mentioning CHAOS...oops...


Yeah, they use linux but what of it?

The command line is useless if you don't know what to type...or if
they moved or renamed the file you need to edit...
GUI has the options listed on the screen. Pick one and you're done.


the gui has maybe the 5 most popular options listed, fine if you're a
cookie-cutter robot, but if you want something slightly different yer
stuck.

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Old August 5th 18, 04:50 AM posted to alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In alt.comp.os.windows-10 Mayayana wrote:
"Dan Purgert" wrote


| Honestly, I skipped right over it from 98SE to XP ... so, I didn't
| really use it.
|


I did the same, sticking with 98 for as long as
possible. I thought XP required a lot of taming,
but once I got settled I found it was much more
stable and hearty than Win98, able to handle
more load.


For me on PCs: DOS v4 (newbie days) - DOS v5 - v6 -- all with WIndows
3.x. And then Windows 95 - 98 - XP (skipped 2K, but used it briefly
like at work) - 7 (right now). Who knows what's next. Maybe full time
Linux/Debian. I really hate v8 and v10. Vista was decent to me. :P


I ended up feeling similarly with 7: After a couple
weeks of exploring I decided that it's basically
salvageable, but not preferable. I'm still on XP
for most things.


Are you online with it too? :/ I had to let go of XP Pro. SP3 on October
2016 due to a nasty HDD crash (clicks of death). It was time to let it
go so I finally my bought 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 retail. Better late than
never. I'm happy with it to start clean with it. I will keep using it
as long as I can!


When I tried 8 it just seemed too far gone to
bother with. On a single-core 1 GHz machine it
barely managed to sit there. And Metro was such
an irrelevant monstrosity. Then Win10... a rental
spyware version of 8.... at that point I gave up on
using a future version of Windows. Though I
suspect 8 could be salvaged in a pinch.


Its usability was awful. I had to use it for testing at work. Argh. W10
was slightly better, but still annoying especially with its privacy
issues!

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Old August 5th 18, 05:12 AM posted to alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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"Ant" wrote

| I ended up feeling similarly with 7: After a couple
| weeks of exploring I decided that it's basically
| salvageable, but not preferable. I'm still on XP
| for most things.
|
| Are you online with it too?

Yes, indeed. And my trusty old OE6. XP probably
doesn't even support the most popular malware
attacks. But I'm also careful. If I need to allow
script, iframes, etc I use a secondary Win7 box.

| When I tried 8........
| Its usability was awful. I had to use it for testing at work. Argh. W10
| was slightly better, but still annoying especially with its privacy
| issues!
|
I used it a bit recently. A friend had a laptop with
a crashed hard disk and I reinstalled from an ISO
I got from MS. It wasn't too bad, actually. I installed
one of those Start Menu repair things. I don't remember
which. But I never tried to really use the system. I was
just getting it installed and doing basic setup. The worst
part was getting the ISO. Microsoft required me to
download some kind of intermediary tool that then
downloaded the ISO. It was ridiculously complicated.
They wouldn't allow just downloading from a direct link!
That's the kind of thing I do with the Win7 box: Grubby,
risky stuff where I have to let sleazeballs have access
to the machine. I have to assume that the only reason
MS made me jump through hoops was so that they
could rummage around while giving me the ISO.




  #311  
Old August 5th 18, 05:33 AM posted to alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2018-08-04, Mayayana wrote:
"Dan Purgert" wrote

| So MS pretended .Net was good for Desktop
| software. Then with the arrival of Metro trinket apps (the
| world of giant GUI buttons linking to online services and
| Microsoft store applets) MS pretended that .Net was just
|
| Was Metro the Win 8 UI? That was what made me sign off Windows
| permanently.
|
Yes. For some reason they suddenly ditched that
name. Maybe people in the Midwest didn't cotton
to it? I don't know. I think the next name was "Modern"
UI. A typical, passive-aggressive Microsoft language
hijack. Calling it modern made everything else out of
date.


Modern means many things:

"Tableau I" and "Composition II in Red, Blue, and Yellow"
works by Piet Mondrian (1872-1944) are considered
Modern Art, and are not entirely dissimilar to the "Metro" look.

And there was the world of WinRT, which I don't
think was ever defined. Lately I think they're talking
about "universal apps", but it's hard to keep track.


At-least it was a better name than WinCE

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Old August 5th 18, 05:41 AM posted to alt.test,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article
Jasen Betts wrote:

On 2018-08-02, mike wrote:
On 8/2/2018 5:17 AM, Caver1 wrote:

Please list those distros; CURRENT version.
Enumerate the GUI tools to:
Seamlessly integrate with a windows network


If you need a tool to do that it's not seamless.
What does that even mean?

Share the desktop, either direction, with windows


assuming you actually mean "Windows": vinagre, teamviewer...

Install software (It's amazing that some distros require
the command line to install a GUI software installer.)


eg: Synaptic?

Configure a firewall, on the fly, as new situations are encountered


eg: gufw ?

Then, there's the whole nightmare of hardware drivers that actually
enable all the functions of hardware devices that don't come with
linux drivers.

I got this far without even mentioning CHAOS...oops...


Yeah, they use linux but what of it?

The command line is useless if you don't know what to type...or if
they moved or renamed the file you need to edit...
GUI has the options listed on the screen. Pick one and you're done.


the gui has maybe the 5 most popular options listed, fine if you're a
cookie-cutter robot, but if you want something slightly different yer
stuck.

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Old August 5th 18, 05:48 AM posted to alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2018-08-03, mike wrote:
On 8/2/2018 7:02 PM, Paul wrote:
Jonathan N. Little wrote:


The primary reason that linux didn't take over the desktop decades
ago is that they don't give a flying @#(+ about ordinary users
AKA windows refugees.


@#(+ing refugees, they should get with the program or go home.
Make Unix Great Agai - i mean Maintain Unix Greatness Always. :^)

Desktop linux needs a radical trimming and consolidation.


why?

And that will never happen with the current developer mindset.


True, you'd have to pay them (buy them off) to even have a chance
at partial success.

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Old August 5th 18, 08:18 AM posted to alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2018-08-03, Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article
Dan Purgert wrote:
To be fair, the "low skill level" people are just as lost in Windows as
they would be in Linux.


And most Linux people complicate things beyond belief
attemnpting to do things in Windows the same way they do in
Linux.


Admittedly attempting anything slightly complicated on the the windows
command line is usually a mistake. Are there any other common mistakes?

Windows systems, on the other hand, tended to have everyone running
around "as administrators" (although that has gotten considerably better
since Win7).


Again you'd be wrong. Windows doesn't do that. Lazy Linux
administrators do that trying to force Windows to work like
Linux.


seems unlikely, what could they have been trying to do?

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Old August 5th 18, 12:27 PM posted to alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , Mayayana
wrote:


A friend had a laptop with
a crashed hard disk and I reinstalled from an ISO
I got from MS. It wasn't too bad, actually. I installed
one of those Start Menu repair things. I don't remember
which. But I never tried to really use the system. I was
just getting it installed and doing basic setup. The worst
part was getting the ISO. Microsoft required me to
download some kind of intermediary tool that then
downloaded the ISO. It was ridiculously complicated.
They wouldn't allow just downloading from a direct link!


of course they do.

choose the edition & language and then click the download link for the
full iso (32 or 64 bit), no intermediate steps or tools required.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO

That's the kind of thing I do with the Win7 box: Grubby,
risky stuff where I have to let sleazeballs have access
to the machine. I have to assume that the only reason
MS made me jump through hoops was so that they
could rummage around while giving me the ISO.


the only hoops are the ones you created for yourself, but the bigger
question is if you don't trust microsoft for a simple download, why do
you use their products?
 




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