Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8

"Cola Zealot" wrote in :

Nice

I see that the little Dutch punk Clogwog is still befouling Usenet with his oderous secretions. What a loser
he is.

On 09/13/15 12:29, Mark Lloyd so wittily quipped:
On 09/12/2015 03:49 PM, Jack Ryan wrote:
I have had updates turned completely off for over a year now due
to all the government and MS spying going on. Never had any
(known) problems since. I am not so sure that turning off updates
is really such a bad idea. MS had plenty of time to work out any
major bugs/security problems during the years W7 was auto updating
my machine. I know that new problems can arise, but is there
really a bigger problem that MS doing this? I keep all my private
data in encrypted files on external drives that are plugged in only
when I need to use the data.
Programs accessing the data are run in a sandbox.


And I seldom if ever use MS programs to access the internet (browser,
email, media player, FTP, etc...).


a wise practice. "Safe Surfing". also helps NOT to have admin/root
level privs of whatever user is running the browser.

I actually had some W10 advocates in the 'Insider' program tell me that
it was OK now to use an admin user (with IE of course) to surf the
internet, telling me that the OS *now* protected you.

Then of course, last week, was a WHOLE PILE of vulnerability fixes for
every windows release SINCE VISTA (including W10), 2 of which involved
PRIVILEGE ELEVATION. Oops. At least one of those *might* have been
protected against if you didn't surf the web logged in with admin rights.

[and I bet that turning off scripting for all but 'white listed' web
sites, like what 'NoScript' does in Firefox, very well might protect you
THE REST OF THE WAY - and if I can't surf the site with NoScript
enabled, I don't "go there"]

"Safe Surfing", yeah. Obvious STD/CONDOM reference is obvious.

Neil wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

On 9/13/2015 1:46 PM, GreyCloud wrote:

I've been hoping for linux developers to merge and agree on some kind of
standard, but I've been waiting for over 20 years and no soap yet.
But it can be done.

It's not likely to get done with any open source product because there
are no "developer's control organizations" that limit the next guy with
the "better" idea from revising the source code or specs. Even W3C
(HTML) wasn't able to maintain standards beyond 4.01 so now we have
"recommended practices", and there are a lot more reasons to standardize
HTML than for Linux.

Microsoft can't find something and stick with it, either.

--
Tempt not a desperate man.
-- William Shakespeare, "Romeo and Juliet"

On 13/09/2015 20:49, Big Bad Bob wrote:


[although I like BSD, it doesn't have the same kinds of support at this
time, but may in the future...]

Don't count out IBM.


Haha haaaa...

Are they the geniuses that gave us OS2? The Chinese make their PCs now
('Lenovo') and IBM have become what they always were in spirit - an
'empty suit' organisation. Yes, Bill Gates helped pull the rug under
their feet. However they were always destined for mediocrity. May they
RIP ('Rot in Peace').

In article
"p-0''0-h the cat (UK) - The voice of the Sheeple"
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Sep 2015 15:14:15 +0200 (CEST), Bubba wrote:

I'm hoping that Linux developers are closely monitoring
this Micro$py 10 runaway train speeding down the tracks,
so that might further motivate them to join forces and
standardize the Linux OS into a Windows-like, user friendly
version that will become very popular among disillusioned,
more like betrayed and disgusted, Windows users. And PC
hardware manufacturers might consider jumping ship from
the proprietary sinking wreck of the RM$ Titanic.

Too funny.

Once M$ put an Indian in charge of the company, all ethics went
out the window.

These are the same scum who engineer American workers out of
jobs and then send the work to India.

Anonymous wrote:

In article
"p-0''0-h the cat (UK) - The voice of the Sheeple"
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Sep 2015 15:14:15 +0200 (CEST), Bubba wrote:

I'm hoping that Linux developers are closely monitoring
this Micro$py 10 runaway train speeding down the tracks,
so that might further motivate them to join forces and
standardize the Linux OS into a Windows-like, user friendly
version that will become very popular among disillusioned,
more like betrayed and disgusted, Windows users. And PC
hardware manufacturers might consider jumping ship from
the proprietary sinking wreck of the RM$ Titanic.

Too funny.

Once M$ put an Indian in charge of the company, all ethics went
out the window.

These are the same scum who engineer American workers out of
jobs and then send the work to India.

Those "American workers" - are they as stupid as you are, dizum coward?

On 2015-09-13 2:26 PM, Nobody wrote:
On 09/13/2015 12:38 PM, Big Bad Bob wrote:
On 09/13/15 01:56, Nobody so wittily quipped:
On 09/13/2015 12:48 AM, Big Bad Bob wrote:
On 09/12/15 15:46, Lehman so wittily quipped:
In article
Peter =?UTF-8?B?S8O2aGxtYW5u?= wrote:


You MS shills

STFU FOAD.


WOW - an STFU troll! Are you the same one I saw over on
alt.os.linux.ubuntu ???

I know that when someone tells *ME* to "STFU" I do the OPPOSITE,
just to
irritate them and PROVE that *I* can *NOT* be controlled. Or not. my
choice.

You don't seem to have minded the "FOAD" that went along with it...


it's the "trying to silence me" via the 'STFU' that's the most
irritating. the FOAD just kinda rolls off.

people who try to "silence the opposition" are generally arrogant
ass-hats, and potentially, bullies and control freaks.

So the 'STFU' identifies "the type".

And instead of having a discussion or agreeing to disagree, they just
arrogantly insist that what THEY believe is "the only way" and tell
everyone who disagrees with them to SHUT THE **** UP, like they have
some kind of policing authority or it adds weight to their [most likely
thin] position or argument. Alternately it may be because *THEY* don't
like you, and so they want you to go away, because they're still in Jr.
High School or something. Too bad, they just can't have their little
exclusive country club or clique.

So yeah, I generally *HATE* who they are to the core, and will do
whatever I can to *EXPOSE* the STFU trolls for what they a ignorant,
arrogant ass-hats, and potentially, bullies and control freaks.

I like you Bob!

I see you're a BSD user, but you'd make a welcome addition to
comp.os.linux.advocacy.

Why? So you can tell him that he's Snit? comp.os.linux.advocacy doesn't
attract anything but Windows users and liars.


--
A.M

On 2015-09-13 3:02 PM, Nobody wrote:
On 09/13/2015 01:37 PM, Big Bad Bob wrote:
On 09/13/15 11:26, Nobody so wittily quipped:
On 09/13/2015 12:38 PM, Big Bad Bob wrote:
On 09/13/15 01:56, Nobody so wittily quipped:
On 09/13/2015 12:48 AM, Big Bad Bob wrote:
On 09/12/15 15:46, Lehman so wittily quipped:
In article
Peter =?UTF-8?B?S8O2aGxtYW5u?= wrote:


You MS shills

STFU FOAD.


WOW - an STFU troll! Are you the same one I saw over on
alt.os.linux.ubuntu ???

I know that when someone tells *ME* to "STFU" I do the OPPOSITE,
just to
irritate them and PROVE that *I* can *NOT* be controlled. Or
not. my
choice.

You don't seem to have minded the "FOAD" that went along with it...


it's the "trying to silence me" via the 'STFU' that's the most
irritating. the FOAD just kinda rolls off.

people who try to "silence the opposition" are generally arrogant
ass-hats, and potentially, bullies and control freaks.

So the 'STFU' identifies "the type".

And instead of having a discussion or agreeing to disagree, they just
arrogantly insist that what THEY believe is "the only way" and tell
everyone who disagrees with them to SHUT THE **** UP, like they have
some kind of policing authority or it adds weight to their [most likely
thin] position or argument. Alternately it may be because *THEY* don't
like you, and so they want you to go away, because they're still in Jr.
High School or something. Too bad, they just can't have their little
exclusive country club or clique.

So yeah, I generally *HATE* who they are to the core, and will do
whatever I can to *EXPOSE* the STFU trolls for what they a
ignorant,
arrogant ass-hats, and potentially, bullies and control freaks.

I like you Bob!

I see you're a BSD user, but you'd make a welcome addition to
comp.os.linux.advocacy.


thanks - I do a lot with Linux as well (mostly Debian, Ubu, and Mint),
and write or modifie linux kernel drivers on occasion [did a bunch of
netfilter and wifi stuff within the last decade]. Mostly it's 'whatever
makes the most sense' for what I use for my day-to-day stuff.

Impressive!

There are some close ties between Debian and FreeBSD if you haven't
already noticed. Debian having a BSD kernel option is only one of them.

Yes, I've noticed. Some of the internals use the BSD way of doing things.

I see all users of FOSS, whether it's Linux or BSD, to be allies.

BSD users aren't interesting in having liars as allies.


--
A.M

A.M wrote:

On 2015-09-13 3:02 PM, Nobody wrote:
On 09/13/2015 01:37 PM, Big Bad Bob wrote:
On 09/13/15 11:26, Nobody so wittily quipped:
On 09/13/2015 12:38 PM, Big Bad Bob wrote:
On 09/13/15 01:56, Nobody so wittily quipped:
On 09/13/2015 12:48 AM, Big Bad Bob wrote:
On 09/12/15 15:46, Lehman so wittily quipped:
In article
Peter =?UTF-8?B?S8O2aGxtYW5u?= wrote:


You MS shills

STFU FOAD.


WOW - an STFU troll! Are you the same one I saw over on
alt.os.linux.ubuntu ???

I know that when someone tells *ME* to "STFU" I do the OPPOSITE,
just to
irritate them and PROVE that *I* can *NOT* be controlled. Or
not. my
choice.

You don't seem to have minded the "FOAD" that went along with it...


it's the "trying to silence me" via the 'STFU' that's the most
irritating. the FOAD just kinda rolls off.

people who try to "silence the opposition" are generally arrogant
ass-hats, and potentially, bullies and control freaks.

So the 'STFU' identifies "the type".

And instead of having a discussion or agreeing to disagree, they just
arrogantly insist that what THEY believe is "the only way" and tell
everyone who disagrees with them to SHUT THE **** UP, like they have
some kind of policing authority or it adds weight to their [most
likely
thin] position or argument. Alternately it may be because *THEY*
don't like you, and so they want you to go away, because they're still
in Jr.
High School or something. Too bad, they just can't have their little
exclusive country club or clique.

So yeah, I generally *HATE* who they are to the core, and will do
whatever I can to *EXPOSE* the STFU trolls for what they a
ignorant,
arrogant ass-hats, and potentially, bullies and control freaks.

I like you Bob!

I see you're a BSD user, but you'd make a welcome addition to
comp.os.linux.advocacy.


thanks - I do a lot with Linux as well (mostly Debian, Ubu, and Mint),
and write or modifie linux kernel drivers on occasion [did a bunch of
netfilter and wifi stuff within the last decade]. Mostly it's 'whatever
makes the most sense' for what I use for my day-to-day stuff.

Impressive!

There are some close ties between Debian and FreeBSD if you haven't
already noticed. Debian having a BSD kernel option is only one of them.

Yes, I've noticed. Some of the internals use the BSD way of doing
things.

I see all users of FOSS, whether it's Linux or BSD, to be allies.

BSD users aren't interesting in having liars as allies.


That may very well be true. That is why you can't be any of their "allies"

On 2015-09-14 10:50 AM, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
A.M wrote:

On 2015-09-13 3:02 PM, Nobody wrote:
On 09/13/2015 01:37 PM, Big Bad Bob wrote:
On 09/13/15 11:26, Nobody so wittily quipped:
On 09/13/2015 12:38 PM, Big Bad Bob wrote:
On 09/13/15 01:56, Nobody so wittily quipped:
On 09/13/2015 12:48 AM, Big Bad Bob wrote:
On 09/12/15 15:46, Lehman so wittily quipped:
In article
Peter =?UTF-8?B?S8O2aGxtYW5u?= wrote:


You MS shills

STFU FOAD.


WOW - an STFU troll! Are you the same one I saw over on
alt.os.linux.ubuntu ???

I know that when someone tells *ME* to "STFU" I do the OPPOSITE,
just to
irritate them and PROVE that *I* can *NOT* be controlled. Or
not. my
choice.

You don't seem to have minded the "FOAD" that went along with it...


it's the "trying to silence me" via the 'STFU' that's the most
irritating. the FOAD just kinda rolls off.

people who try to "silence the opposition" are generally arrogant
ass-hats, and potentially, bullies and control freaks.

So the 'STFU' identifies "the type".

And instead of having a discussion or agreeing to disagree, they just
arrogantly insist that what THEY believe is "the only way" and tell
everyone who disagrees with them to SHUT THE **** UP, like they have
some kind of policing authority or it adds weight to their [most
likely
thin] position or argument. Alternately it may be because *THEY*
don't like you, and so they want you to go away, because they're still
in Jr.
High School or something. Too bad, they just can't have their little
exclusive country club or clique.

So yeah, I generally *HATE* who they are to the core, and will do
whatever I can to *EXPOSE* the STFU trolls for what they a
ignorant,
arrogant ass-hats, and potentially, bullies and control freaks.

I like you Bob!

I see you're a BSD user, but you'd make a welcome addition to
comp.os.linux.advocacy.


thanks - I do a lot with Linux as well (mostly Debian, Ubu, and Mint),
and write or modifie linux kernel drivers on occasion [did a bunch of
netfilter and wifi stuff within the last decade]. Mostly it's 'whatever
makes the most sense' for what I use for my day-to-day stuff.

Impressive!

There are some close ties between Debian and FreeBSD if you haven't
already noticed. Debian having a BSD kernel option is only one of them.

Yes, I've noticed. Some of the internals use the BSD way of doing
things.

I see all users of FOSS, whether it's Linux or BSD, to be allies.

BSD users aren't interesting in having liars as allies.


That may very well be true. That is why you can't be any of their "allies"

After all of these years, I'm still waiting for you to quote me lying
just once.


--
A.M

On 2015-09-14 3:26 AM, Jenny Telia wrote:
On 13/09/2015 20:49, Big Bad Bob wrote:


[although I like BSD, it doesn't have the same kinds of support at this
time, but may in the future...]

Don't count out IBM.


Haha haaaa...

Are they the geniuses that gave us OS2?

A promising operating system ruined by IBM's general incompetence.

The Chinese make their PCs now
('Lenovo')

And they are ****. My wife wanted to buy a Lenovo when she got her
laptop in 2012 and even though I told her that they are no longer made
by IBM, she was convinced that they were just as good. Three years
later, the hard disk is dying and the hinges holding the lcd to the rest
of the computer broke on their own. The LCD just hangs off of the
computer like Ahlstrom's limp dick. It's so worthless that I convinced
my wife that it was a perfect candidate for Linux.

and IBM have become what they always were in spirit - an
'empty suit' organisation. Yes, Bill Gates helped pull the rug under
their feet. However they were always destined for mediocrity. May they
RIP ('Rot in Peace').

Absolutely. The world of technology will be better once IBM becomes a
distant and ancient memory.

--
A.M

On 9/14/15, 6:18 AM, in article , "A.M"
wrote:

On 2015-09-13 2:26 PM, Nobody wrote:
On 09/13/2015 12:38 PM, Big Bad Bob wrote:
On 09/13/15 01:56, Nobody so wittily quipped:
On 09/13/2015 12:48 AM, Big Bad Bob wrote:
On 09/12/15 15:46, Lehman so wittily quipped:
In article
Peter =?UTF-8?B?S8O2aGxtYW5u?= wrote:


You MS shills

STFU FOAD.


WOW - an STFU troll! Are you the same one I saw over on
alt.os.linux.ubuntu ???

I know that when someone tells *ME* to "STFU" I do the OPPOSITE,
just to
irritate them and PROVE that *I* can *NOT* be controlled. Or not. my
choice.

You don't seem to have minded the "FOAD" that went along with it...


it's the "trying to silence me" via the 'STFU' that's the most
irritating. the FOAD just kinda rolls off.

people who try to "silence the opposition" are generally arrogant
ass-hats, and potentially, bullies and control freaks.

So the 'STFU' identifies "the type".

And instead of having a discussion or agreeing to disagree, they just
arrogantly insist that what THEY believe is "the only way" and tell
everyone who disagrees with them to SHUT THE **** UP, like they have
some kind of policing authority or it adds weight to their [most likely
thin] position or argument. Alternately it may be because *THEY* don't
like you, and so they want you to go away, because they're still in Jr.
High School or something. Too bad, they just can't have their little
exclusive country club or clique.

So yeah, I generally *HATE* who they are to the core, and will do
whatever I can to *EXPOSE* the STFU trolls for what they a ignorant,
arrogant ass-hats, and potentially, bullies and control freaks.

I like you Bob!

I see you're a BSD user, but you'd make a welcome addition to
comp.os.linux.advocacy.

Why? So you can tell him that he's Snit? comp.os.linux.advocacy doesn't
attract anything but Windows users and liars.

LOL! Pretty much true... but also people who use multiple OSs and are honest
about it. Lloyd, as much as he lies about me, is pretty honest about tech
(though right now he is talking about OneNote and how great it is without,
yet, saying what it does other software does not).


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On 09/13/15 13:12, Cola Zealot wrote:
On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 13:48:05 -0600, GreyCloud wrote:

On 09/12/15 11:49, Jeremy Bentham wrote:
The saga continues.

Following news that Windows 10 automatically downloads onto Windows 7
and Windows 8 for users who choose to upgrade,
Microsoft MSFT +0.00% has now confirmed it has taken things one serious
step further: Windows 10 will now download on computers even when users
chose NOT to upgrade.

This somewhat shocking development was discovered by The Inquirer when
a reader reported Windows 10 had been downloaded onto their computer
despite the fact they expressly declined the opportunity to upgrade:

“The symptoms are repeated failed ‘Upgrade to Windows 10' in the WU
update history and a huge 3.5GB to 6GB hidden folder labelled
‘$Windows.~BT’,� the reader explained. “I thought Microsoft [said] this
‘upgrade’ was optional. If so, why is it being pushed out to so many
computers where it wasn’t reserved, and why does it try to install over
and over again?

He continued: “I know of two instances where people on metered
connections went over their data cap for August because of this
unwanted download. My own internet (slow DSL) was crawling for a week
or so until I discovered this problem. In fact, that’s what led me to
it. Not only does it download, it tries to install every time the
computer is booted.�

Microsoft Confirms New Policy

Astonishingly this is not a one-off error. Speaking to The Inquirer,
Microsoft confirmed this is now something they are doing to all
computers running Windows 7 and Windows 8:

“For individuals who have chosen to receive automatic updates through
Windows Update, we help upgradable devices get ready for Windows 10 by
downloading the files they’ll need if they decide to upgrade. When the
upgrade is ready, the customer will be prompted to install Windows 10
on the device,� said a Microsoft spokesperson.

Now let’s be clear he with regards to Windows 7 and Windows 8
“individuals who have chosen to receive automatic updates through
Windows Update� is essentially everyone.

So unless you expressly chose to switch off all Windows updates (not
recommended), you will be receiving (and have already received) a 3-6GB
silent download. As The Inquirer reader points out, this can be found
at: C:\$windows.~BT

Note this is a hidden folder so to view it you need to open File
Explorer and go to: Organize Folder Options View Show hidden
files, folders, and drives.

The Fall Out

So what to make of this? Quite frankly, while opinions remain divided
over Windows 10’s forced updates, for Microsoft to presumptuously take
a substantial chunk of every Windows 7 and Windows 8 user’s storage
(and data allowance) downloading Windows 10 even if they specifically
state they do not want to upgrade is a big step too far.

Personally I cannot see what Microsoft is trying to achieve here. When
a user wants Windows 10 they will expect a large download to begin and
there to be some waiting time. But Microsoft downloading Windows 10
anyway just to skip this wait for users who don’t want Windows 10 is
complete madness.

So what are your options…

What To Do

For those determined not to have their hard drive storage space and/or
Internet data allowance wasted by Windows 10, the options are limited.

The most drastic step is to disable Windows Update completely,
but I would not recommend it as you are then trapped in a manual cycle
of vetting every update to keep your computer update and secure.

Meanwhile the alternative for those who have already had Windows 10
downloaded on their systems is simply to delete the C:\$windows folder.
Then again Microsoft has not disclosed whether it will simply start
downloading it again!

I have reached out to Microsoft for further clarification here and will
update the post when/if the company responds.

In the meantime we are fast seeing Microsoft approach a dangerous
crossing. It has already released updates on Windows 7 and Windows 8
which add detailed user tracking akin to Windows 10 and now it is
downloading Windows 10 on Windows 7 and Windows 8 computers computers
whether users want it or not.

Microsoft needs to be very careful. It took decades to build up user
trust, but now it risks tearing everything down in just a few months…

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonke.../12/microsoft-
confirms-windows-10-now-forced-onto-windows-7-and-windows-8/

That's rather odd... I have win7 and it hasn't downloaded win10 yet.
Nor was it forced upon me.


Wasn't forced on any of my boxes either.

Me too, I installed / upgrade Win 10 on a few old boxes using the
MediaCreationToolx64.exe
The Win 10 Update, KB3035583, is an optional update, I've seen it
because I have updates set to "Let me look at them first".
I do not need KB3035583, so nothing was forced upon me.


I've set mine the same way. There is nothing wrong with win7 for my
uses. I kept the win7 hard drive in a safe place till I need to do any
software changes to a project I delivered a couple of years ago. I
bought a new hard drive and now using Solaris and find that it is
actually faster than linux, plus it has system self fixing capabilities
that linux just doesn't have. Fun to use, but it is very easy to swap
out the drives and boot into win7 when I want to.


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Indian said, "Only the government would believe that you
could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the
bottom, and have a longer blanket."

On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 12:06:37 -0400, "A.M" wrote:

On 2015-09-14 3:26 AM, Jenny Telia wrote:
On 13/09/2015 20:49, Big Bad Bob wrote:


[although I like BSD, it doesn't have the same kinds of support at this
time, but may in the future...]

Don't count out IBM.


Haha haaaa...

Are they the geniuses that gave us OS2?

A promising operating system ruined by IBM's general incompetence.

It still is a very good operating system, if it's not
connected to the internet.

The Chinese make their PCs now
('Lenovo')

And they are ****. My wife wanted to buy a Lenovo when she got her
laptop in 2012 and even though I told her that they are no longer made
by IBM, she was convinced that they were just as good. Three years
later, the hard disk is dying and the hinges holding the lcd to the rest
of the computer broke on their own. The LCD just hangs off of the
computer like Ahlstrom's limp dick. It's so worthless that I convinced
my wife that it was a perfect candidate for Linux.

I know this will come as a shock, but all laptops come
equipped with hard drives made by Asians. So even if you buy 100%
American, when you open it up, you will see it is not.
As to the limp dick thing, I'm sure your wife has a share of
the blame. Don't get depressed, it will only make matters worse.
Appreciate the good word for Linux. If Linux can solve HDon
/limp-dick issues, maybe it should have a bigger following.
[]'s

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We have a new policy - Google 2012

On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 14:42:34 -0300, Shadow wrote:

On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 12:06:37 -0400, "A.M" wrote:

On 2015-09-14 3:26 AM, Jenny Telia wrote:
On 13/09/2015 20:49, Big Bad Bob wrote:


[although I like BSD, it doesn't have the same kinds of support at
this time, but may in the future...]

Don't count out IBM.


Haha haaaa...

Are they the geniuses that gave us OS2?

A promising operating system ruined by IBM's general incompetence.

It still is a very good operating system, if it's not
connected to the internet.

The Chinese make their PCs now ('Lenovo')

And they are ****. My wife wanted to buy a Lenovo when she got her
laptop in 2012 and even though I told her that they are no longer made
by IBM, she was convinced that they were just as good. Three years
later, the hard disk is dying and the hinges holding the lcd to the rest
of the computer broke on their own. The LCD just hangs off of the
computer like Ahlstrom's limp dick. It's so worthless that I convinced
my wife that it was a perfect candidate for Linux.

I know this will come as a shock, but all laptops come
equipped with hard drives made by Asians. So even if you buy 100%
American, when you open it up, you will see it is not.
As to the limp dick thing, I'm sure your wife has a share of
the blame. Don't get depressed, it will only make matters worse.
Appreciate the good word for Linux. If Linux can solve HDon
/limp-dick issues, maybe it should have a bigger following.
[]'s

It would be nice if Linux supported many more wireless cards too! Almost
every laptop I've looked at won't have wifi on install of Linux. You
have to add it later after you find and download the driver. That should
not be the case these days.




--
Lloyd