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  #46  
Old March 23rd 17, 04:02 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.cellular-phone-tech
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Default Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man'selectrocution

On 3/23/2017 9:24 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2017-03-23, PAS wrote:
On 3/22/2017 5:17 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Silver-Tongued Heel
wrote:

I guess this goes along with the lady that burned herself with
McDonald's hot coffee and won a suit that they should have warned her.

And they walk among us?
The reason the woman was burned, if I recall correctly, is because the
coffee's temperature was too hot (obviously) and because the ****ty car
she was in had no cup holder. In the end, if McDonald's can be sued for
the coffee being too hot then the car manufacturer should also have been
sued for not providing a place for the old bag to put her drink.
you don't recall correctly, or at all, actually.

mcdonald's knowingly served coffee that was far too hot for human
consumption, which they knew could cause serious burns, which had
burned over 700 other people and they had *no* interest in changing
anything.


Of course, the woman who put the cup between her legs and drove away
with it still between her legs bears no responsibility at all.


1. The vehicle was stopped when the spill occurred.
2. The court ruled McDonalds was shirking their own responsibilities.


Just made a fresh pot of coffee with Proctor Silex 12 cup coffee maker
and poured a cup and tested it wit an accurate Photo thermometer and it
was 139 degrees F.
Just right for drinking, 180-190 is way way too hot, .

Mcdonalds are definitely in the wrong. The End.

Rene



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  #47  
Old March 23rd 17, 04:20 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.cellular-phone-tech
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Default Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution

On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 10:45:12 -0400, Wolf K wrote:

On 2017-03-23 10:26, Jolly Roger wrote:
Nope. The car wasn't moving when she put the cup between her legs to
remove the lid in order to add creamer, etc.


Good grief. Do you mean that McDonald's didn't add that before handing
her the coffee?

I guess one reason that we prefer Timmie's is that they add the
cream/milk/sugar before they hand you the coffee. And while it's hot,
it's never too hot.


I guess it comes down to expectations and what you're used to, but I'd
be quite put off if I ordered coffee and they tried to add sugar or
creamer before they handed me the coffee. Good grief, do they also
pre-condiment your burger? :-)

  #48  
Old March 23rd 17, 04:34 PM posted to alt.test, comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.cellular-phone-tech
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Default Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man'selectrocution

In article
nospam wrote:

In article , Alrescha
wrote:


you continue to ignore the over 700 other patrons who were seriously burned


Yes, I ignore them, because they are a red herring. What part of "made
with boiling water" do you fail to understand? It is not a surprise
that a few dozen people a year manage to burn themseves.


the issue was not the temperature of the coffee.

the issue was that mcdonald's knowingly sold a product that could cause
burns on contact and that hundreds of people had been injured, some by
mcdonald's own employees (something which you keep ignoring), at the
rate of more than one per week over a period of ten years, all of this
by mcdonald's own testimony.

what really did them in was that mcdonald's testified that they had no
interest in trying to reduce the number of injuries, calling it
'statistically insignificant'.

in short, they didn't give a ****, and *that* is why they lost.

the number of galaxy note 7s that caught fire was also 'statistically
insignificant' (100 or so, out of a couple of million sold), which
caused not one, but *two* recalls and the ultimate cancelation of the
product.


  #49  
Old March 23rd 17, 04:56 PM posted to alt.test, comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.cellular-phone-tech
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Default Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man'selectrocution

In article
Tim Streater wrote:

In article , Wolf K
wrote:

On 2017-03-23 06:05, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Wolf K
wrote:

On 2017-03-22 18:14, Alrescha wrote:

As for our electrocution victim, I do not know what UK chargers look
like, but in the US if the charger was in the tub, so was the end of
the extension cord. Death was inevitable regardless of manufacturer.

I think your surmise is correct about how it happened is correct. Of
course, the other factor is that the UK apparently doesn't require GFI
receptacles in bathrooms.

Sockets in bathroom in the UK are *forbidden*. End of story.


Thanks, I'd forgotten that. Makes sense, considering that they use 220/240V.


FTAOD, I should add that transformer-isolated shaver sockets are
permitted, but they only allow a tiny power draw and will only be
useable by such as shavers, or chargers for shavers or (as in my case)
electric toothbrushes. They are only 2-pin, use a different type of
(moulded only) plug, and are typically switchable 120/240V.

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  #50  
Old March 23rd 17, 05:06 PM posted to alt.test, comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.cellular-phone-tech
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Default Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man'selectrocution

In article
PAS wrote:

On 3/23/2017 10:06 AM, PAS wrote:
On 3/22/2017 5:17 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Silver-Tongued Heel
wrote:

I guess this goes along with the lady that burned herself with
McDonald's hot coffee and won a suit that they should have warned her.

And they walk among us?
The reason the woman was burned, if I recall correctly, is because the
coffee's temperature was too hot (obviously) and because the ****ty car
she was in had no cup holder. In the end, if McDonald's can be sued for
the coffee being too hot then the car manufacturer should also have
been
sued for not providing a place for the old bag to put her drink.
you don't recall correctly, or at all, actually.

mcdonald's knowingly served coffee that was far too hot for human
consumption, which they knew could cause serious burns, which had
burned over 700 other people and they had *no* interest in changing
anything.


Of course, the woman who put the cup between her legs and drove away
with it still between her legs bears no responsibility at all.


To clarify: she was not driving the car, she was a passenger. The
driver drove off while she held the cup of coffee between her legs.


  #51  
Old March 23rd 17, 05:06 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.cellular-phone-tech
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Default Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution

On 2017-03-23 03:48:41 +0000, nospam said:

the issue was that mcdonald's knowingly sold a product that could cause
burns on contact


Have you never been to a real restaurant? They regularly serve food
that can cause burns on contact. e.g.:

The local pizza shop pops that pie out of its 450F oven, cuts four
lines into it and
slides it onto your table before the cheese stops bubbling. i.e.: 212F

The plate of nachos made in that same oven, edges of the chips smoking, and
served on a plate that is too hot to be touched by human hands.

That crazy portable skillet at the fajita place where the whole skillet,
meat and all is brought out to your table still smoking and sizzling.

- not to mention anything fresh out of a fryolater - I have had fries
that were untouchable.

The issue was that this woman badly burned herself, and in their
sympathy a large number of people turned off their brains and concluded
that somehow the big mean company was at fault and needed to be
punished.

McD's still serves their coffee at the same temperature, as does
Starbucks. If temperature was an issue, this would not be the case.

A.


  #52  
Old March 23rd 17, 05:43 PM posted to alt.test, comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.cellular-phone-tech
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Default Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man'selectrocution

In article
Rene Lamontagne wrote:

On 3/23/2017 9:24 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2017-03-23, PAS wrote:
On 3/22/2017 5:17 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Silver-Tongued Heel
wrote:

I guess this goes along with the lady that burned herself with
McDonald's hot coffee and won a suit that they should have warned her.

And they walk among us?
The reason the woman was burned, if I recall correctly, is because the
coffee's temperature was too hot (obviously) and because the ****ty car
she was in had no cup holder. In the end, if McDonald's can be sued for
the coffee being too hot then the car manufacturer should also have been
sued for not providing a place for the old bag to put her drink.
you don't recall correctly, or at all, actually.

mcdonald's knowingly served coffee that was far too hot for human
consumption, which they knew could cause serious burns, which had
burned over 700 other people and they had *no* interest in changing
anything.

Of course, the woman who put the cup between her legs and drove away
with it still between her legs bears no responsibility at all.


1. The vehicle was stopped when the spill occurred.
2. The court ruled McDonalds was shirking their own responsibilities.


Just made a fresh pot of coffee with Proctor Silex 12 cup coffee maker
and poured a cup and tested it wit an accurate Photo thermometer and it
was 139 degrees F.
Just right for drinking, 180-190 is way way too hot, .

Mcdonalds are definitely in the wrong. The End.

Rene


  #53  
Old March 23rd 17, 05:53 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.cellular-phone-tech
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Default Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution

In article , PAS wrote:

mcdonald's knowingly served coffee that was far too hot for human
consumption, which they knew could cause serious burns, which had
burned over 700 other people and they had *no* interest in changing
anything.


Of course, the woman who put the cup between her legs and drove away
with it still between her legs bears no responsibility at all.


she didn't do that.

the vehicle was parked and she was the passenger.
  #54  
Old March 23rd 17, 05:53 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.cellular-phone-tech
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Default Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution

In article , Alrescha
wrote:


the issue was that mcdonald's knowingly sold a product that could cause
burns on contact


Have you never been to a real restaurant? They regularly serve food
that can cause burns on contact. e.g.:


no they don't.

you also snipped the part where mcdonald's ignored over 700 injuries.

they didn't give a ****.
  #55  
Old March 23rd 17, 06:08 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.cellular-phone-tech
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Default Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution

On 2017-03-23 16:53:09 +0000, nospam said:

In article , Alrescha
wrote:


the issue was that mcdonald's knowingly sold a product that could cause
burns on contact


Have you never been to a real restaurant? They regularly serve food
that can cause burns on contact. e.g.:


no they don't.


They do, and I gave you several examples. Why do you not address them?

you also snipped the part where mcdonald's ignored over 700 injuries.


In a country where tens of thousands of people die from accidents every
year, the 70 people who burn themselves with coffee should be ignored.
Completely.

they didn't give a ****.


And we get to the heart of the matter. McDonald's was punished for
being insenstive - not because they did anything wrong. The bulk of
the damages were punitive, and unreleated to the case. The judge
struck down 80% of those, probably because he knew it was irrational
madness.

A.

  #56  
Old March 23rd 17, 06:11 PM posted to alt.test, comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.cellular-phone-tech
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Default Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man'selectrocution

In article
PAS wrote:

On 3/22/2017 5:17 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Silver-Tongued Heel
wrote:

I guess this goes along with the lady that burned herself with
McDonald's hot coffee and won a suit that they should have warned her.

And they walk among us?
The reason the woman was burned, if I recall correctly, is because the
coffee's temperature was too hot (obviously) and because the ****ty car
she was in had no cup holder. In the end, if McDonald's can be sued for
the coffee being too hot then the car manufacturer should also have been
sued for not providing a place for the old bag to put her drink.

you don't recall correctly, or at all, actually.

mcdonald's knowingly served coffee that was far too hot for human
consumption, which they knew could cause serious burns, which had
burned over 700 other people and they had *no* interest in changing
anything.


Of course, the woman who put the cup between her legs and drove away
with it still between her legs bears no responsibility at all.


  #57  
Old March 23rd 17, 06:18 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.cellular-phone-tech
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Default Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution

In article , Alrescha
wrote:


the issue was that mcdonald's knowingly sold a product that could cause
burns on contact

Have you never been to a real restaurant? They regularly serve food
that can cause burns on contact. e.g.:


no they don't.


They do, and I gave you several examples. Why do you not address them?


because the temperature is not the issue.

you also snipped the part where mcdonald's ignored over 700 injuries.


In a country where tens of thousands of people die from accidents every
year, the 70 people who burn themselves with coffee should be ignored.
Completely.


nonsense.

you keep ignoring that some of those burns were caused by mcdonald's
own employees and some were children and babies.

burns were occurring at a rate of more than one per week, and
mcdonald's, by their own admission, had no interest in reducing that.
they simply didn't give a ****.

it is unacceptable for any business to disregard the safety and well
being of their customers.

around 100 galaxy note 7 fires occurred, causing two recalls and an
ultimate cancelation of the product.

numerous products are recalled for safety related issues:
https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/Recalls-by-Product/

they didn't give a ****.


And we get to the heart of the matter. McDonald's was punished for
being insenstive - not because they did anything wrong.


nope. they were punished for a willful reckless disregard for the
safety of their customers.

The bulk of
the damages were punitive, and unreleated to the case. The judge
struck down 80% of those, probably because he knew it was irrational
madness.


the damages were related and the judge didn't strike down anything.
  #58  
Old March 23rd 17, 06:42 PM posted to alt.test, comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.cellular-phone-tech
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Default Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man'selectrocution

In article
Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2017-03-23, PAS wrote:
On 3/22/2017 5:17 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Silver-Tongued Heel
wrote:

I guess this goes along with the lady that burned herself with
McDonald's hot coffee and won a suit that they should have warned her.

And they walk among us?
The reason the woman was burned, if I recall correctly, is because the
coffee's temperature was too hot (obviously) and because the ****ty car
she was in had no cup holder. In the end, if McDonald's can be sued for
the coffee being too hot then the car manufacturer should also have been
sued for not providing a place for the old bag to put her drink.
you don't recall correctly, or at all, actually.

mcdonald's knowingly served coffee that was far too hot for human
consumption, which they knew could cause serious burns, which had
burned over 700 other people and they had *no* interest in changing
anything.


Of course, the woman who put the cup between her legs and drove away
with it still between her legs bears no responsibility at all.


1. The vehicle was stopped when the spill occurred.
2. The court ruled McDonalds was shirking their own responsibilities.

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  #59  
Old March 23rd 17, 06:45 PM posted to alt.test, comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.cellular-phone-tech
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Default Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man'selectrocution

In article
Char Jackson wrote:

On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 10:45:12 -0400, Wolf K wrote:

On 2017-03-23 10:26, Jolly Roger wrote:
Nope. The car wasn't moving when she put the cup between her legs to
remove the lid in order to add creamer, etc.


Good grief. Do you mean that McDonald's didn't add that before handing
her the coffee?

I guess one reason that we prefer Timmie's is that they add the
cream/milk/sugar before they hand you the coffee. And while it's hot,
it's never too hot.


I guess it comes down to expectations and what you're used to, but I'd
be quite put off if I ordered coffee and they tried to add sugar or
creamer before they handed me the coffee. Good grief, do they also
pre-condiment your burger? :-)


  #60  
Old March 23rd 17, 07:23 PM posted to alt.test, comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.cellular-phone-tech
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Default Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man'selectrocution

In article
nospam wrote:

In article , PAS wrote:

mcdonald's knowingly served coffee that was far too hot for human
consumption, which they knew could cause serious burns, which had
burned over 700 other people and they had *no* interest in changing
anything.


Of course, the woman who put the cup between her legs and drove away
with it still between her legs bears no responsibility at all.


she didn't do that.

the vehicle was parked and she was the passenger.


 




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