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With DaaS Windows Coming, Say Goodbye To Your PC As You Know It
Carlos E R writes:
On 2018-08-01 09:04, Chris wrote: nospam wrote: [No idea what news:alt.privacy.anon-server has to do with the topic; dropped.] [...] quite a bit does. chromebooks are very strong in education and web apps (mainly google) are winning out over ms office. Not in the UK. Schools and universities are wall to wall MS. Which is particularly depressing given the lack of money in schools. I was in a classroom a few years back here (Spain), and the funny thing was that the school officially embraced free software; yet the teachers wrote their pieces on Word instead of LibreOffice, so the students did the same (without licenses). Someone really using LO had a bit of a problem because the formatting often is not accurately converted. Most of the people I saw used Windows and Office without licenses, so MS was getting nothing - except that the people got familiar with MS and demand MS products later. I don't know how [1] is reliable as a source, but I'm going to quote it anyway. "Although about 3 million computers get sold every year in China, people don't pay for the software. Someday they will, though," Gates told an audience at the University of Washington. "And as long as they're going to steal it, we want them to steal ours. They'll get sort of addicted, and then we'll somehow figure out how to collect sometime in the next decade." [1] How Piracy Opens Doors for Windows // Los Angeles Times. URI: http://articles.latimes.com/2006/apr...i-micropiracy9 -- FSF associate member #7257 http://am-1.org/~ivan/ |
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On 01/08/18 14:14, Wolf K wrote:
The desktop is becoming a business machine. Plus a niche product for a handful of hobbyists. Gamers have already moved to the laptop, which will also become a business product. I think that is largely true. Also a hobbyists machine. I wouldnt want to do 3D CAD on a tablet.. I would say the desktop is by and large for creating content. The phones and tablets by and large for consuming content. But the boundary is very soft. -- Gun Control: The law that ensures that only criminals have guns. |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
But companies are just rubbish really. I mean would you believe a=20 company that prints from WORD onto letterhead PAPER, scans the result=20 and emails it as a PDF? Yeah, better let the recipient's fax machine do the PDF conversion. |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote
| Just as well. Your Surface as a Service probably | isn't water-resistant. | | | Seriously though, isn't notebook as a service what a chromebook is? Or | smartphone as a service, android? | | Indeed Liux itself is desktop as a service, except its free...It's all | about where the line is drawn between stuff that is upgraded centrally | and installed on your computer or upgraded cenrally and NOT permanently | stored on your computer, and if you actually care. | These days I don't think that aspect is very relevant. Office 365 is installed locally. Adobe Creative Suite is installed locally. They're far too complex to actually be "cloud based". But they're both rental software and both claim the right to call home, under the pretense that they're services. They pretend to be cloud-based. Both also require that you make repeat payments to keep using them. Aside from offering some online storage, the service designation and cloudiness have no functional aspect. It's just a redefinition to justify spyware and rental fees. It's marketing and commerical propaganda, aimed at changing customer expectations. It's as though GM or Ford put a meter in your car and told you they now charge per mile. If you're sucker enough to accept that then they'll collect payments from you. And they are fooling most of the people most of the time. Adobe's scam has been very sucessful. As I understand it, you can actually use CS disconnected as long as you let it call home every 90 days or so. On the other hand, it defaults to storing your work on their server and not locally. So for anyone who's not moderately tech savvy it does seem to be running on the cloud: Stop paying them and you lose all your files! As the old saying goes, a sucker whips out his credit card every minute. Linux? That's not really a desktop or a service. And as you say, it's free. I don't know how you define a service if it doesn't involve paying. Do you think of it as a service because it updates itself without asking? You may allow Linux to auto-update and auto-install libraries. You may allow Ubuntu adware, or whatever their latest monstrosity is. I wouldn't. That's one of the many reasons I'm not using Linux. The others being that it's perennially unfinished, lacks complete GUI support, lacks docs, and sorely lacks software. I don't know what the Linux designers are thinking. They're increasingly designing "for dummies" with an unrealistic dream that eventually Linux will take over the desktop, but only so long as your definition of a desktop is a console window and emacs. One can't get anything done without opening console windows or digging into config files buried in /etc. Conversely, auto-updating, crippling root, limiting installer options... those are all for-dummies designs that only make things more difficult for experienced people. It's becoming the worst of both worlds. What the Linux fans never seem to get is that people don't use GUIs because they're dumb. They use GUIs because GUIs are much easier and more functional than commandline. Ironically, the Linux paradigm is not so far from the Apple paradigm these days, positing two groups: The techies who make things work and the detestable, dumb "users" who shouldn't be allowed to touch the controls. As with Office 365 and CS, MS DaaS will be installed locally. It just won't be controllable by the person who pays for it. That's very different from WinXP or 7, or what came before, which can be run without the dubious dripfeed of patches that people have got used to allowing, and without the spyware. With pre-10, your computer is your property. (Yes, the software is technically "licensed", but it's yours to use as you see fit for as long as you like.) I run both XP and 7. I don't allow either to call home. Nor do I allow software on either to call out without permission. Nor do I allow destabilizing dripfeed updates of who-knows-what. I'm using a computer with installed software. Windows 10 users are using a device infested with spyware and have been unofficially conscripted as unpaid beta testers for the endless updates. I'd say that's a very big difference, even though it's not really a difference in the basic software or device. If Win10 gets officially designated DaaS it will be a way for Microsoft to take even more control. It will then be like a shopping mall: You're free to be there, but only for the purposes of buying stuff. You're subject to mall rules and mall security. In other words, the service is mainly in the legal definitions and the rights you give up to use the product. I see what you mean about tablets and computer phones. But I think of those as semi-kiosk systems, aimed mainly at "consumer services" -- devices for buying stuff, looking at stuff you want to buy, or telling your friends about stuff you just bought... as well as diddling Facebook. PCs vs computer phones or tablets are two very different things. They share having a CPU and connecting to the Internet. But the former is a tool while the latter are mainly commercial kiosk devices. But even those are not actually services. You have a right to control the software on your phone, if only you could get to it. Microsoft are getting away with running Windows 10 as spyware. They're gradually redefining it as a service and in doing so they define you as using your computer "on their property". If you view all of these things as just services then you're defining yourself as a "consumer" on someone else's property. Which means you *don't* define yourself as a citizen. Cows are consumers. They eat grass and the cowherds then extract payment. The cows are happy because all they really care about is eating grass. But cows cannot be citizens. Do you really want to be a cow? |
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After serious thinking The Natural Philosopher wrote :
On 01/08/18 12:51, Mayayana wrote: "Rene Lamontagne" wrote | Nevertheless, Computerworld, twisted the story | and made up a dramatic crisis out of thin air. The | author says straight out that MS are replacing Win10 | with a rental you'll have no control over. There's no | basis at all for that statement that I can find. | | I'm not likely to jump off a bridge over that overblown article. | Just as well. Your Surface as a Service probably isn't water-resistant. Seriously though, isn't notebook as a service what a chromebook is? Or smartphone as a service, android? Indeed Liux itself is desktop as a service, except its free...It's all about where the line is drawn between stuff that is upgraded centrally and installed on your computer or upgraded cenrally and NOT permanently stored on your computer, and if you actually care. Not sure how an OS installed on my computer can be considered a service. I use Slackware and there are no requirements by anyone to run it. |
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Anssi Saari wrote:
mike writes: MS underestimated Android in the phone market. They might fail again with the desktop. Here's hoping (for Microsoft's demise). With a stack of cash ($131B) that goes half way to the moon, how will that happen exactly ? They can **** it away buying other companies, and if they're to have a demise, that will be the preferred route. Buy a company for X billion, write off X-1 billion assets the next year. If they use their cash reserve purely for R&D, and dump the excess employees, they could last a long time and produce nothing. Even selling licenses to Android for Microsoft patents, they could retire and drink rum on the beach all day. Paul |
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On 01/08/18 14:56, Mayayana wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote | Just as well. Your Surface as a Service probably | isn't water-resistant. | | | Seriously though, isn't notebook as a service what a chromebook is? Or | smartphone as a service, android? | | Indeed Liux itself is desktop as a service, except its free...It's all | about where the line is drawn between stuff that is upgraded centrally | and installed on your computer or upgraded cenrally and NOT permanently | stored on your computer, and if you actually care. | ... Linux? That's not really a desktop or a service. And as you say, it's free. I don't know how you define a service if it doesn't involve paying. Do you think of it as a service because it updates itself without asking? A service is something that does something useful. So a maid who makes the bed is a service. Linuxs does something useful. It is a service as much as it is software. It is perhaps a service enabled by software much as the bedmaking is a service enabled by a maid. The ley element to a service is you dontown it . I dont own linux. Its owned by the people who nmaitina it, if its owned by anybody You may allow Linux to auto-update and auto-install libraries. You may allow Ubuntu adware, or whatever their latest monstrosity is. I wouldn't. That's one of the many reasons I'm not using Linux. The others being that it's perennially unfinished, lacks complete GUI support, lacks docs, and sorely lacks software. I don't know what the Linux designers are thinking. They're increasingly designing "for dummies" with an unrealistic dream that eventually Linux will take over the desktop, but only so long as your definition of a desktop is a console window and emacs. One can't get anything done without opening console windows or digging into config files buried in /etc. Conversely, auto-updating, crippling root, limiting installer options... those are all for-dummies designs that only make things more difficult for experienced people. It's becoming the worst of both worlds. Oh dear oh dear. I remember when lunix was like that. In 1999. What the Linux fans never seem to get is that people don't use GUIs because they're dumb. They use GUIs because GUIs are much easier and more functional than commandline. Actually in many cases they are not, but let's not go there. Ironically, the Linux paradigm is not so far from the Apple paradigm these days, positing two groups: The techies who make things work and the detestable, dumb "users" who shouldn't be allowed to touch the controls. Oh dear As with Office 365 and CS, MS DaaS will be installed locally. It just won't be controllable by the person who pays for it. That's very different from WinXP or 7, or what came before, which can be run without the dubious dripfeed of patches that people have got used to allowing, and without the spyware. With pre-10, your computer is your property. (Yes, the software is technically "licensed", but it's yours to use as you see fit for as long as you like.) I run both XP and 7. I don't allow either to call home. Nor do I allow software on either to call out without permission. Nor do I allow destabilizing dripfeed updates of who-knows-what. I'm using a computer with installed software. Windows 10 users are using a device infested with spyware and have been unofficially conscripted as unpaid beta testers for the endless updates. I'd say that's a very big difference, even though it's not really a difference in the basic software or device. If Win10 gets officially designated DaaS it will be a way for Microsoft to take even more control. It will then be like a shopping mall: You're free to be there, but only for the purposes of buying stuff. You're subject to mall rules and mall security. In other words, the service is mainly in the legal definitions and the rights you give up to use the product. I see what you mean about tablets and computer phones. But I think of those as semi-kiosk systems, aimed mainly at "consumer services" -- devices for buying stuff, looking at stuff you want to buy, or telling your friends about stuff you just bought... as well as diddling Facebook. PCs vs computer phones or tablets are two very different things. They share having a CPU and connecting to the Internet. But the former is a tool while the latter are mainly commercial kiosk devices. But even those are not actually services. You have a right to control the software on your phone, if only you could get to it. Microsoft are getting away with running Windows 10 as spyware. They're gradually redefining it as a service and in doing so they define you as using your computer "on their property". If you view all of these things as just services then you're defining yourself as a "consumer" on someone else's property. Which means you *don't* define yourself as a citizen. Cows are consumers. They eat grass and the cowherds then extract payment. The cows are happy because all they really care about is eating grass. But cows cannot be citizens. Do you really want to be a cow? Oh dear. -- "And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch". Gospel of St. Mathew 15:14 |
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On 01/08/18 15:31, Anonymous wrote:
After serious thinking The Natural Philosopher wrote : On 01/08/18 12:51, Mayayana wrote: "Rene Lamontagne" wrote | Â*Â*Â* Nevertheless, Computerworld, twisted the story | and made up a dramatic crisis out of thin air. The | author says straight out that MS are replacing Win10 | with a rental you'll have no control over. There's no | basis at all for that statement that I can find. | | I'm not likely to jump off a bridge over that overblown article. | Â*Â* Just as well. Your Surface as a Service probably isn't water-resistant. Seriously though, isn't notebook as a service what a chromebook is? Or smartphone as a service, android? Indeed Liux itself is desktop as a service, except its free...It's all about where the line is drawn between stuff that is upgraded centrally and installed on your computer or upgraded cenrally and NOT permanently stored on your computer, and if you actually care. Â*Not sure how an OS installed on my computer can be considered a service. Easily if it was downloaded and is maintained by someone else. I use Slackware and there are no requirements by anyone to run it. I am not sure I even understand that statement let alone its relevance? -- Of what good are dead warriors? … Warriors are those who desire battle more than peace. Those who seek battle despite peace. Those who thump their spears on the ground and talk of honor. Those who leap high the battle dance and dream of glory … The good of dead warriors, Mother, is that they are dead. Sheri S Tepper: The Awakeners. |
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Linux? That's not really a desktop or a service. And as you say, it's free. I don't know how you define a service if it doesn't involve paying. Do you think of it as a service because it updates itself without asking? You may allow Linux to auto-update and auto-install libraries. You may allow Ubuntu adware, or whatever their latest monstrosity is. I wouldn't. That's one of the many reasons I'm not using Linux. The others being that it's perennially unfinished, lacks complete GUI support, lacks docs, and sorely lacks software. I don't know what the Linux designers are thinking. They're increasingly designing "for dummies" with an unrealistic dream that eventually Linux will take over the desktop, but only so long as your definition of a desktop is a console window and emacs. One can't get anything done without opening console windows or digging into config files buried in /etc. Conversely, auto-updating, crippling root, limiting installer options... those are all for-dummies designs that only make things more difficult for experienced people. It's becoming the worst of both worlds. What the Linux fans never seem to get is that people don't use GUIs because they're dumb. They use GUIs because GUIs are much easier and more functional than commandline. Ironically, the Linux paradigm is not so far from the Apple paradigm these days, positing two groups: The techies who make things work and the detestable, dumb "users" who shouldn't be allowed to touch the controls. This is really a very disappointing explanation of the various Linux systems. I am almost certain that you have never done more than installed a Linux GUI system, played with it for a short time, condemned it in you mind, and uninstalled it. Debian alone has 32,000+ free software programs available. Those who have converted off of Windows have not found Linux to restrict their needs and uses for a computer. I would never use Ubumtoo because of the spying it does. The other Linux distributions make it easy to install some good programs right there in their interface. I am a software engineer and hated to have to re-learn how to use the Linux comandline. But there were many places on the web that explained how to install programs using the Linux comandline that were not in the GUI install interface. Most people would probably not need to install something from another deb lib anyway. A result of having to learn a couple of basic commandline entries, I eventually ended up running a Debian commandline server that runs a remailer and bitmessage server. |
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The Natural Philosopher explained :
On 01/08/18 14:56, Mayayana wrote: "The Natural Philosopher" wrote | Just as well. Your Surface as a Service probably | isn't water-resistant. | | | Seriously though, isn't notebook as a service what a chromebook is? Or | smartphone as a service, android? | | Indeed Liux itself is desktop as a service, except its free...It's all | about where the line is drawn between stuff that is upgraded centrally | and installed on your computer or upgraded cenrally and NOT permanently | stored on your computer, and if you actually care. | ... Linux? That's not really a desktop or a service. And as you say, it's free. I don't know how you define a service if it doesn't involve paying. Do you think of it as a service because it updates itself without asking? A service is something that does something useful. So a maid who makes the bed is a service. Linuxs does something useful. It is a service as much as it is software. It is perhaps a service enabled by software much as the bedmaking is a service enabled by a maid. My lawn mower would be a service with this explanation. Linux is NOT a service. It is an OS that runs on my personally owned machine. Linux on my machine is my property. A service is something that is external. A service is provided by someone or something that is not owned by me. A service does something for me and then leaves until I call for it to serve me again. When I buy a computer, I buy the hardware and software. I don't have to upate it, I can block MS altogether, I don't have to connect it to the internet (except to initially initialize the windows system), I don't have to do anything per MS snoopy demands to make updates or otherwise connect my computer to the web. Only when MS starts selling their OS as a service do I have to connect to the internet so that MS can determine if I have forked over mega dollars to continue to use their service (OS). |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote on 8/1/2018 :
On 01/08/18 15:31, Anonymous wrote: After serious thinking The Natural Philosopher wrote : On 01/08/18 12:51, Mayayana wrote: "Rene Lamontagne" wrote | *** Nevertheless, Computerworld, twisted the story | and made up a dramatic crisis out of thin air. The | author says straight out that MS are replacing Win10 | with a rental you'll have no control over. There's no | basis at all for that statement that I can find. | | I'm not likely to jump off a bridge over that overblown article. | ** Just as well. Your Surface as a Service probably isn't water-resistant. Seriously though, isn't notebook as a service what a chromebook is? Or smartphone as a service, android? Indeed Liux itself is desktop as a service, except its free...It's all about where the line is drawn between stuff that is upgraded centrally and installed on your computer or upgraded cenrally and NOT permanently stored on your computer, and if you actually care. *Not sure how an OS installed on my computer can be considered a service. Easily if it was downloaded and is maintained by someone else. Voluntarism and/or hobby pursuits does not equal a service. A service always has dollar marks assigned to it. I use Slackware and there are no requirements by anyone to run it. I am not sure I even understand that statement let alone its relevance? |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote on 8/1/2018 : On 01/08/18 15:31, Anonymous wrote: After serious thinking The Natural Philosopher wrote : On 01/08/18 12:51, Mayayana wrote: "Rene Lamontagne" wrote Nevertheless, Computerworld, twisted the story and made up a dramatic crisis out of thin air. The author says straight out that MS are replacing Win10 with a rental you'll have no control over. There's no basis at all for that statement that I can find. I'm not likely to jump off a bridge over that overblown article. Just as well. Your Surface as a Service probably isn't water-resistant. Seriously though, isn't notebook as a service what a chromebook is Or smartphone as a service, android Indeed Liux itself is desktop as a service, except its free...It's all about where the line is drawn between stuff that is upgraded centrally and installed on your computer or upgraded cenrally and NOT permanently stored on your computer, and if you actually care. Not sure how an OS installed on my computer can be considered a service. Easily if it was downloaded and is maintained by someone else. Voluntarism and/or hobby pursuits does not equal a service. A service always has dollar marks assigned to it. Yes. The creators of Linux OS's are not doing their work with a mind to produce a service for others, but they are doing it out of their technical interest in producing and programming software. It may also include that ego thing, with those that identify themselves, although that is not necessarily a bad thing. |
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wrote: | Seriously though, isn't notebook as a service what a chromebook is? Or | smartphone as a service, android? | | Indeed Liux itself is desktop as a service, except its free...It's all | about where the line is drawn between stuff that is upgraded centrally | and installed on your computer or upgraded cenrally and NOT permanently | stored on your computer, and if you actually care. | These days I don't think that aspect is very relevant. Office 365 is installed locally. Adobe Creative Suite is installed locally. They're far too complex to actually be "cloud based". But they're both rental software and both claim the right to call home, under the pretense that they're services. They pretend to be cloud-based. Both also require that you make repeat payments to keep using them. as opposed to a larger one-time payment to keep using them, which many people can't afford. $10/mo for the full photoshop (not elements) and lightroom is a *lot* more palatable than ~$1000 every 2-3 years. Aside from offering some online storage, the service designation and cloudiness have no functional aspect. It's just a redefinition to justify spyware and rental fees. It's marketing and commerical propaganda, aimed at changing customer expectations. nonsense. It's as though GM or Ford put a meter in your car and told you they now charge per mile. If you're sucker enough to accept that then they'll collect payments from you. cars require ongoing fuel purchases every 200-300 miles or they stop working. they also require periodic maintenance (often done at the dealer, at least for the first few years), yearly emissions inspections, insurance payments, etc. or they stop working or are no longer legal to operate on public roads. not a good comparison. And they are fooling most of the people most of the time. Adobe's scam has been very sucessful. As I understand it, except that you don't understand it. you can actually use CS disconnected as long as you let it call home every 90 days or so. only to check if you paid. it's also a monthly check for those who pay monthly. for those who pay yearly (which has a discount), it checks less often. if you no longer are paying, it stops working. photos are local and can be accessed by any software that can read jpeg, tiff, raw or photoshop format (which is published). lightroom continues to be able to access catalogues and many other features, you just can't modify the images. On the other hand, it defaults to storing your work on their server and not locally. So for anyone who's not moderately tech savvy it does seem to be running on the cloud: Stop paying them and you lose all your files! absolutely wrong and you've been told that many, many times. everything is local unless the *user* decides to put it in the cloud. it's not a requirement. As the old saying goes, a sucker whips out his credit card every minute. as the old saying goes, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Linux? That's not really a desktop or a service. And as you say, it's free. I don't know how you define a service if it doesn't involve paying. Do you think of it as a service because it updates itself without asking? You may allow Linux to auto-update and auto-install libraries. You may allow Ubuntu adware, or whatever their latest monstrosity is. I wouldn't. That's one of the many reasons I'm not using Linux. The others being that it's perennially unfinished, lacks complete GUI support, lacks docs, and sorely lacks software. I don't know what the Linux designers are thinking. They're increasingly designing "for dummies" with an unrealistic dream that eventually Linux will take over the desktop, but only so long as your definition of a desktop is a console window and emacs. One can't get anything done without opening console windows or digging into config files buried in /etc. Conversely, auto-updating, crippling root, limiting installer options... those are all for-dummies designs that only make things more difficult for experienced people. It's becoming the worst of both worlds. add linux to the list of things you don't understand. I see what you mean about tablets and computer phones. But I think of those as semi-kiosk systems, aimed mainly at "consumer services" -- devices for buying stuff, looking at stuff you want to buy, or telling your friends about stuff you just bought... as well as diddling Facebook. yet another thing you don't understand. PCs vs computer phones or tablets are two very different things. They share having a CPU and connecting to the Internet. that part is true. But the former is a tool while the latter are mainly commercial kiosk devices. that part is not true. But even those are not actually services. You have a right to control the software on your phone, if only you could get to it. nothing prevents anyone from 'controlling' the software on a phone or tablet. the methods may be a little different, that's all. |
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On 01/08/18 16:20, Anonymous wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote on 8/1/2018 : On 01/08/18 15:31, Anonymous wrote: After serious thinking The Natural Philosopher wrote : On 01/08/18 12:51, Mayayana wrote: "Rene Lamontagne" wrote | Â*Â*Â* Nevertheless, Computerworld, twisted the story | and made up a dramatic crisis out of thin air. The | author says straight out that MS are replacing Win10 | with a rental you'll have no control over. There's no | basis at all for that statement that I can find. | | I'm not likely to jump off a bridge over that overblown article. | Â*Â* Just as well. Your Surface as a Service probably isn't water-resistant. Seriously though, isn't notebook as a service what a chromebook is? Or smartphone as a service, android? Indeed Liux itself is desktop as a service, except its free...It's all about where the line is drawn between stuff that is upgraded centrally and installed on your computer or upgraded cenrally and NOT permanently stored on your computer, and if you actually care. Â*Â*Not sure how an OS installed on my computer can be considered a service. Easily if it was downloaded and is maintained by someone else. Voluntarism and/or hobby pursuits does not equal a service.Â* A service always has dollar marks assigned to it. Golly. What a strange attitude. And who do you think actually maintains Linux? Volunteer and hobbyists? Are you mad? IBM, RedHat,Google - all have paid employees. And there are many many more paid employees. All supporting Linux. I use Slackware and there are no requirements by anyone to run it. I am not sure I even understand that statement let alone its relevance? -- "Corbyn talks about equality, justice, opportunity, health care, peace, community, compassion, investment, security, housing...." "What kind of person is not interested in those things?" "Jeremy Corbyn?" |
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On 01/08/18 16:43, Nomen Nescio wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote on 8/1/2018 : On 01/08/18 15:31, Anonymous wrote: After serious thinking The Natural Philosopher wrote : On 01/08/18 12:51, Mayayana wrote: "Rene Lamontagne" wrote Nevertheless, Computerworld, twisted the story and made up a dramatic crisis out of thin air. The author says straight out that MS are replacing Win10 with a rental you'll have no control over. There's no basis at all for that statement that I can find. I'm not likely to jump off a bridge over that overblown article. Just as well. Your Surface as a Service probably isn't water-resistant. Seriously though, isn't notebook as a service what a chromebook is Or smartphone as a service, android Indeed Liux itself is desktop as a service, except its free...It's all about where the line is drawn between stuff that is upgraded centrally and installed on your computer or upgraded cenrally and NOT permanently stored on your computer, and if you actually care. Not sure how an OS installed on my computer can be considered a service. Easily if it was downloaded and is maintained by someone else. Voluntarism and/or hobby pursuits does not equal a service. A service always has dollar marks assigned to it. Yes. The creators of Linux OS's are not doing their work with a mind to produce a service for others, but they are doing it out of their technical interest in producing and programming software. It may also include that ego thing, with those that identify themselves, although that is not necessarily a bad thing. I have extreme trouble understanding what on earth you are talking about. With the exception of Apple and Microsoft just about every other major player in the hardware and systems software game has a hand in supporting Linux. The only precondition for being an avid supporter of Linux is that you are NOT involved in SELLING operating systems, but hardware or applications. And there you are claiming to actually know something about computers and operating systems! Great Haggis! -- "The great thing about Glasgow is that if there's a nuclear attack it'll look exactly the same afterwards." Billy Connolly |
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