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  #16  
Old October 14th 18, 02:24 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2018-10-13 4:17 p.m., Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-10-13 15:11, SilverSlimer wrote:

[...]

The New York Times haven't been a credible source for a while so I
reject their conclusions and laugh at your attempt to prove your lies
right by using them as a source.

[...]

So you won't read it for yourself, eh?


They are completely biased and have routinely been revealed as
deliberate liars such as yourself so no, I won't waste my time reading it.

Terrified that you may be wrong?


Heh.

Best wishes,


PS:
One of your sources is either out-of-date or wrong about the details of
Carlos Slim's ownership of the NYT:

https://www.forbes.com/billionaires/#29da2b2e251c

And from the Wikipedia article on the NYT:

"Carlos Slim loan and investment

On January 20, 2009, The New York Times reported that its parent
company, The New York Times Company, had reached an agreement to borrow
$250 million from Carlos Slim, a Mexican billionaire "to help the
newspaper company finance its businesses".[28] The New York Times
Company later repaid that loan ahead of schedule.[29] Since then, Slim
has bought large quantities of the company's Class A shares, which are
available for purchase by the public and offer less control over the
company than Class B shares, which are privately held.[29] Slim's
investments in the company included large purchases of Class A shares in
2011, when he increased his stake in the company to 8.1% of Class A
shares,[30] and again in 2015, when he exercised stock options—acquired
as part of a repayment plan on the 2009 loan—to purchase 15.9 million
Class A shares, making him the largest shareholder.[29][31] As of March
7, 2016, Slim owned 17.4% of the company's Class A shares, according to
annual filings submitted by the company.[32][33][34]

Although Slim is the largest shareholder in the company, his investment
does not give him the ability to control the newspaper, as his stake
allows him to vote only for Class A directors, who compose just a third
of the company's board.[29] According to the company's 2016 annual
filings, Slim did not own any of the company's Class B shares.[32]"

But I suppose you'll claim that Forbes and Wikipedia are liberal
sources, too.


Wikipedia is and there is no doubt about it. https://www.conservapedia.com
/index.php?title=Examples_of_Bias_in_Wikipedia

Forbes is not too good with factual reporting.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/forbes/

However, both says that Carlos Slim is the largest shareholder but
_doesn't_ control the paper? You'd have to be a complete Snit to lack
that much common sense.

snip idiocy


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  #17  
Old October 14th 18, 10:50 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 14/10/18 21:49, Nomen Nescio wrote:
Democrats are locusts. They first pervert and eventually
destroy everything they touch.


Yup. Because its not a practical discipline - it's an ideology. And
sooner or later reality becomes at odds with it.


--
Those who want slavery should have the grace to name it by its proper
name. They must face the full meaning of that which they are advocating
or condoning; the full, exact, specific meaning of collectivism, of its
logical implications, of the principles upon which it is based, and of
the ultimate consequences to which these principles will lead. They must
face it, then decide whether this is what they want or not.

Ayn Rand.
  #18  
Old October 14th 18, 11:06 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2018-10-14 4:49 p.m., Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article
SilverSlimer wrote:

On 2018-10-13 4:17 p.m., Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-10-13 15:11, SilverSlimer wrote:

[...]

The New York Times haven't been a credible source for a while so I
reject their conclusions and laugh at your attempt to prove your lies
right by using them as a source.
[...]

So you won't read it for yourself, eh?


They are completely biased and have routinely been revealed as
deliberate liars such as yourself so no, I won't waste my time reading it.

Terrified that you may be wrong?


Heh.

Best wishes,


PS:
One of your sources is either out-of-date or wrong about the details of
Carlos Slim's ownership of the NYT:

https://www.forbes.com/billionaires/#29da2b2e251c

And from the Wikipedia article on the NYT:

"Carlos Slim loan and investment

On January 20, 2009, The New York Times reported that its parent
company, The New York Times Company, had reached an agreement to borrow
$250 million from Carlos Slim, a Mexican billionaire "to help the
newspaper company finance its businesses".[28] The New York Times
Company later repaid that loan ahead of schedule.[29] Since then, Slim
has bought large quantities of the company's Class A shares, which are
available for purchase by the public and offer less control over the
company than Class B shares, which are privately held.[29] Slim's
investments in the company included large purchases of Class A shares in
2011, when he increased his stake in the company to 8.1% of Class A
shares,[30] and again in 2015, when he exercised stock options—acquired
as part of a repayment plan on the 2009 loan—to purchase 15.9 million
Class A shares, making him the largest shareholder.[29][31] As of March
7, 2016, Slim owned 17.4% of the company's Class A shares, according to
annual filings submitted by the company.[32][33][34]

Although Slim is the largest shareholder in the company, his investment
does not give him the ability to control the newspaper, as his stake
allows him to vote only for Class A directors, who compose just a third
of the company's board.[29] According to the company's 2016 annual
filings, Slim did not own any of the company's Class B shares.[32]"

But I suppose you'll claim that Forbes and Wikipedia are liberal
sources, too.


Wikipedia is and there is no doubt about it. https://www.conservapedia.com
/index.php?title=Examples_of_Bias_in_Wikipedia

Forbes is not too good with factual reporting.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/forbes/

However, both says that Carlos Slim is the largest shareholder but
_doesn't_ control the paper? You'd have to be a complete Snit to lack
that much common sense.


Exactly.

Every paper reflects deceptive idioms from the largest
shareholder.


There's a reason why people seek to hold onto 51% of their company once
it becomes public or try to buy that percentage of shares: control. For
Wolf K to recognize that Carlos Slim owns the majority of the New York
Times yet believe that he doesn't get a say means the leftism disease
has already taken over his brain.

The NYT hates Trump because they can't beat him.


They're annoyed that the influence they used to have has all but
vanished today. Those who believe them don't have the attention span to
read an article and anyone who does remembers the paper's history quite
well and their numerous lies. To say that the New York Times has any
kind of credibility is laughable.

The LAT hates Republicans because they simply oppose Democrats.


They hate Republicans, but they seem to be better than the New York
Times in that they actually showed that Trump was going to win the
election according to their polling.
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-polls-20161109-story.html

Meanwhile the "very credible" New York Times were predicting a Hillary
Clinton win with 76% certainty.
https://uproxx.com/news/new-york-times-predicts-hillary-will-win/

The Dallas Morning News, Hartford Courier and Denver Post aren't
worth the gas it would take to burn the dumps down - but it
should be done.

Of course, there is the inevitable bankruptcy of the papers
since they were infiltrated and taken over by leftwing Democrats.

Democrats are locusts. They first pervert and eventually
destroy everything they touch.


Nobody reads the mainstream news anymore because even the dumbest person
can tell that they are no longer actually reporting the news. It's
gotten so bad that some are turning to independent news (which is still
actually accurate in many cases) and word of mouth.

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  #19  
Old October 15th 18, 12:01 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 13/10/18 17:29, Wolf K wrote:
sadly, it's from the NYT, so it's chockful of facts,


ROFLMAO!

I have never yet read a fact in the NYT!

Its ALL faux news.


Faux News? Trump's favorite news channel!
Or is that "Faux & Fiends"....

  #20  
Old October 15th 18, 06:01 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 10/14/18 10:33 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article
"J.O. Aho" wrote:

On 10/12/18 1:12 AM, Anonymous wrote:
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/1...sorship-plan-0


Fellow Europeans, get yourself an American VPS (DigitalOcean is what I am using - $5/month) and follow the simple instructions in the link below on how to serf and post through it. We don't need the EU to dictating to us how to speak and post.


Sadly the laws in US makes it possibly for US agencies to target
Europeans for spying and no matter if you post from "abroad" or not for
EU citizens EU law will still be applied just look at GDPR how it
affects everyone.


I'm waiting for the first attempted GDPR prosecution in the USA.

GDPR is just so much asswipe.


Both Federal Trade Commission and Federal Bureau of Investigation will
are the entities in US which will be enforcing and prosecuting companies
who are only based in US and who fail to follow GDPR.
  #21  
Old October 15th 18, 01:20 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2018-10-14 11:54 p.m., Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article
William Poaster wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 13/10/18 17:29, Wolf K wrote:
sadly, it's from the NYT, so it's chockful of facts,

ROFLMAO!

I have never yet read a fact in the NYT!

Its ALL faux news.


Faux News? Trump's favorite news channel!
Or is that "Faux & Fiends"....


sneer all you want, fauxcts are fauxcts.

"Hillary Clinton’s security clearance removed ‘at her request,’
Judiciary Committee reveals"

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hil...tons-security-
clearance-removed-at-her-request-judiciary-committee-reveals

ss it "fake news" because fox reported it or because your head
is neck deep in your rectum?


"At her request" is very laughable. I guess they want to make it seem as
though she's a moral, ethical individual who was only looking out for
what's best for Americans rather than the heartless, demonic witch that
she actually is.

I will not be satisfied until her head is in a guillotine.


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  #22  
Old October 15th 18, 05:09 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2018-10-15 11:22 a.m., Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-10-15 08:20, SilverSlimer wrote:
[...]

I will not be satisfied until her head is in a guillotine


This is the kind of comment that illustrates why "Silver Slimer" hides
behind a nym.

Gutless coward.


Oh no, someone disagrees with you so you want to have their real name to
satisfy your desire to get them fired or worse, right Wolf?

I imagine that you're so brave that you go out in public with a bandana
over your face as the Soviet flag is waved behind you.

Cowardice isn't hiding behind a nym; it's destroying the person who
shared a contrary opinion.

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  #23  
Old October 15th 18, 05:41 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.usenet.kooks
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2018 12:09:06 -0400, LO AND BEHOLD; "SilverSlimer
" determined that the following was of great importance
and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
:

On 2018-10-15 11:22 a.m., Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-10-15 08:20, SilverSlimer wrote: [...]
I will not be satisfied until her head is in a guillotine

This is the kind of comment that illustrates why "Silver Slimer" hides
behind a nym. Gutless coward.


Oh no, someone disagrees with you so you want to have their real name to
satisfy your desire to get them fired or worse, right Wolf?


things could be much worse he could put you in a guillotine.

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"Thanks to muzzies and their apologist-enablers like puppy whistle, this
seems to be the new norm in the world. It's spreading like a cancer,
and it's time we admit we're at war with pure evil. We need to put an
end to this muzzie plague, or life on Earth is going to become pure hell
everywhere. We need to get these people out of every civilized
country, and there's only one way to do it. IOW, we have to become
like them, with an emphasis on expediency over cruelty." - Checkmate (of alt.checkmate)

"Pussy Willow has just proven that Trump's crackdown on previously
unenforced immigration policies is working. We'll deal with the domestic
terrorists as needed, but we don't need to be letting the muzzie
terrorists get a foothold in our country too. One need only look at what
they're doing in Europe right now to know we're doing the right thing by
keeping them out, which is our right and our duty. - Checkmate (#1 pussy willow fan)

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  #24  
Old October 15th 18, 05:47 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 10/15/18 8:53 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article
"J.O. Aho" wrote:

On 10/14/18 10:33 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article
"J.O. Aho" wrote:

On 10/12/18 1:12 AM, Anonymous wrote:
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/1...sorship-plan-0


Fellow Europeans, get yourself an American VPS (DigitalOcean is what I am using - $5/month) and follow the simple instructions in the link below on how to serf and post through it. We don't need the EU to dictating to us how to speak and post.


Sadly the laws in US makes it possibly for US agencies to target
Europeans for spying and no matter if you post from "abroad" or not for
EU citizens EU law will still be applied just look at GDPR how it
affects everyone.

I'm waiting for the first attempted GDPR prosecution in the USA.

GDPR is just so much asswipe.


Both Federal Trade Commission and Federal Bureau of Investigation will
are the entities in US which will be enforcing and prosecuting companies
who are only based in US and who fail to follow GDPR.


Riiiight. The American federal government is going to enforce
failing European Union (Socialist) legislation in the United
States.

Got it.

Jurisdiction and standing.

See you in court.


You would end up in court and be convicted to pay the heavy penalties to
failing the follow GDPR, as this is something the US government (lead by
the illegal immigrants son you voted for) and EU has agreed on, it's not
a single sided treaty but this allows Act to enforced within EU.

Sure you don't care about your privacy as you are member in NRA and then
your M60 is the most important, you use it for everything warming your
bed, hunt dear with it and you can even use it as a fishing rod when you
have tired on shooting on the fish.


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  #25  
Old October 15th 18, 06:38 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10,misc.legal
J.O. Aho
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On 10/15/18 6:53 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article
Nomen Nescio wrote:

In article
"J.O. Aho" wrote:

On 10/14/18 10:33 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article
"J.O. Aho" wrote:

On 10/12/18 1:12 AM, Anonymous wrote:
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/1...sorship-plan-0


Fellow Europeans, get yourself an American VPS (DigitalOcean is what I am using - $5/month) and follow the simple instructions in the link below on how to serf and post through it. We don't need the EU to dictating to us how to speak and post.


Sadly the laws in US makes it possibly for US agencies to target
Europeans for spying and no matter if you post from "abroad" or not for
EU citizens EU law will still be applied just look at GDPR how it
affects everyone.

I'm waiting for the first attempted GDPR prosecution in the USA.

GDPR is just so much asswipe.

Both Federal Trade Commission and Federal Bureau of Investigation will
are the entities in US which will be enforcing and prosecuting companies
who are only based in US and who fail to follow GDPR.


Riiiight. The American federal government is going to enforce
failing European Union (Socialist) legislation in the United
States.

Got it.

Jurisdiction and standing.

See you in court.


GDPR can be enforced in the EU for any company doing business
there. Outside, as a PP stated, it's just so much nanny state
buttwipe.


I guess you would be surprised to sitting in federal jail in US for not
following GDPR.

On a side note. Besides google, facebook, twitter and the
media, it's the people inside the EU who are the problem. They
post anything and everything on social media, then expect
privacy. Talk about sheeple.


Not everything you post on the net is meant to be shared, what about
your credit card PAN would you like it end used to send money to ISIS?
What about your Social Security Number would end up at a scammer who
then will be doing things and claim it's you?
Sure some people post their address on social media sharing it with the
whole world, but you may not be as happy if your address was aviable to
everyone on the net.

As most companies uses the data they can harvest, they know a lot about
you, not just what you have provided to them, but also what streams you
read, which links you click and a lot more, selling this information to
third parties makes them earn loads of money so that third parties can
target you in the same way as they did during the 2016 election.

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  #26  
Old October 15th 18, 08:48 PM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.misc,misc.legal,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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The only way GPDR would be enforced in the USA is if the country fell and
was divived up like Eurpoe was after every war. GPDR will be enforced by the
EU on firms which do not comply if the firms want to continue to operate in
the EU. Thanks but no thanks. PLONK!
  #28  
Old October 16th 18, 03:50 AM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.misc,misc.legal,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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No, we're not that stupid. Look up US History and "representative democracy"
before commenting.
  #29  
Old October 16th 18, 05:02 PM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.misc,misc.legal,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Agreed that the US constitution waqs written by and for the landowners.
Agreed that there will never be a perfect constitution. However, the Bill of
Rights (1st 10 amendments) were ratified shortly thereafter and the
amendments protect the people.

I agreethat is the ultimate goal, however, until civility and mutual
"respect" return to American politics, it will never happen.

Thanks for the conversation, but I'm afraid we are drifting off-subject.
Have a good day,
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Old October 16th 18, 06:51 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 10/16/18 11:55 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article "J.O. Aho" wrote:


You would end up in court and be convicted to pay the heavy penalties to
failing the follow GDPR, as this is something the US government (lead by
the illegal immigrants son you voted for) and EU has agreed on, it's not
a single sided treaty but this allows Act to enforced within EU.


Nope. It would wind up in court of law and a judge or jury
would determine if we throw United States sovereignty out the
window for bozos who can't and won't even police their own
countries.


Sorry bot you are wrong, bilateral agreement makes violation of GDPR in
US as much of a crime as you would have done it in EU, this why The Act
also applies in EU too.
If you don't like this kind of agreements, then you have to see to that
Trump will not be re-elected.


Sure you don't care about your privacy as you are member in NRA and then
your M60 is the most important, you use it for everything warming your
bed, hunt dear with it and you can even use it as a fishing rod when you
have tired on shooting on the fish.


Yeah well when the great EU manages to get their unsolved crime
rates down from 89-93%, I'll worry about the fish.


See you are reading fake news again, let see what you fish up out of
Breitbart News, maybe that coloured people ain't humans?


That's absolutely stunning that the supposedly superior EU has
an average 11% success rate for solving crimes.


Success rate of my local police last year was 89%, most of the crimes
was solved within 3 days.

Those nanny cams stuck up every where sure did a lot of good...
As an EMC engineer I'm grateful for the amount of money you
spend on storage every year.


No cameras more than at the highway to keep track of speeders.


Don't forget that you have in average 5 mass shootings a week, way more
than whole EU in a year.

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