Fax Console Dialing Rules

I send faxes using the fax console that comes with XP. I want the fax
console to dial a 1 and the area code regardless of the area code I am
sending to.

But apparently, it's not possible to enter that kind of universal rule.
Rather, it's necessary to enter a separate dialing rule for every area code
in the United States.

Am I correct about that? Microsoft can't be that obtuse can it? I am
running XP with SP2 on a Dell 4550.

On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:17:01 -0800, richardpu
wrote:

I send faxes using the fax console that comes with XP. I want the fax
console to dial a 1 and the area code regardless of the area code I am
sending to.

WHY?

The fax console will do it when it's necessary.

That hasn't been my experience. For example, my own fax number is (212)
427-6057. If I don't have an area code rule for (212), the fax console won't
dial the "1" or the (212).

"Rob Talley" wrote:

On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:17:01 -0800, richardpu
wrote:

I send faxes using the fax console that comes with XP. I want the fax
console to dial a 1 and the area code regardless of the area code I am
sending to.

WHY?

The fax console will do it when it's necessary.

That hasn't been my experience. For example, my own fax number is (212)
427-6057. If I don't have an area code rule for (212), the fax console won't
dial the "1" or the (212).

"Rob Talley" wrote:

On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:17:01 -0800, richardpu
wrote:

I send faxes using the fax console that comes with XP. I want the fax
console to dial a 1 and the area code regardless of the area code I am
sending to.

WHY?

The fax console will do it when it's necessary.

On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 13:50:03 -0800, richardpu
wrote:

That hasn't been my experience. For example, my own fax number is (212)
427-6057. If I don't have an area code rule for (212), the fax console won't
dial the "1" or the (212).

You do not NEEED the "1" and "(212)" to dial a call to the "212" area
code. I suspect that using them would end up in no connection anyway.

If you find yourself away from home and have to fax home, you need to
setup an additional dialing location.

"Rob Talley" wrote:

On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:17:01 -0800, richardpu
wrote:

I send faxes using the fax console that comes with XP. I want the fax
console to dial a 1 and the area code regardless of the area code I am
sending to.

WHY?

The fax console will do it when it's necessary.

Yes you do. When dialing from the 212 area code to another 212 number, you
need to dial a 1 and 212.

But that's beside the point. Let's say I want to send a fax to the 410 area
code. Unless I enter an area code rule for 410, the fax console won't dial
a 1 and 410 before the phone number.

That means that for every area code in the United States, I have to enter a
separate area code rule. That simply can't be.

"Rob Talley" wrote:

On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 13:50:03 -0800, richardpu
wrote:

That hasn't been my experience. For example, my own fax number is (212)
427-6057. If I don't have an area code rule for (212), the fax console won't
dial the "1" or the (212).

You do not NEEED the "1" and "(212)" to dial a call to the "212" area
code. I suspect that using them would end up in no connection anyway.

If you find yourself away from home and have to fax home, you need to
setup an additional dialing location.

"Rob Talley" wrote:

On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:17:01 -0800, richardpu
wrote:

I send faxes using the fax console that comes with XP. I want the fax
console to dial a 1 and the area code regardless of the area code I am
sending to.

WHY?

The fax console will do it when it's necessary.

On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:21:00 -0800, richardpu
wrote:

Yes you do. When dialing from the 212 area code to another 212 number, you
need to dial a 1 and 212.

Then you're screwed. The dialing program doesn't understand that (nor
do I) so it's requiring you to manually setup ALL area codes.

Live with it or get a new fax program like Snappy Fax and see if it
handles things differently.

But that's beside the point. Let's say I want to send a fax to the 410 area
code. Unless I enter an area code rule for 410, the fax console won't dial
a 1 and 410 before the phone number.

That means that for every area code in the United States, I have to enter a
separate area code rule. That simply can't be.

"Rob Talley" wrote:

On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 13:50:03 -0800, richardpu
wrote:

That hasn't been my experience. For example, my own fax number is (212)
427-6057. If I don't have an area code rule for (212), the fax console won't
dial the "1" or the (212).

You do not NEEED the "1" and "(212)" to dial a call to the "212" area
code. I suspect that using them would end up in no connection anyway.

If you find yourself away from home and have to fax home, you need to
setup an additional dialing location.

"Rob Talley" wrote:

On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:17:01 -0800, richardpu
wrote:

I send faxes using the fax console that comes with XP. I want the fax
console to dial a 1 and the area code regardless of the area code I am
sending to.

WHY?

The fax console will do it when it's necessary.

richardpu wrote:
I send faxes using the fax console that comes with XP. I want the fax
console to dial a 1 and the area code regardless of the area code I am
sending to.

But apparently, it's not possible to enter that kind of universal rule.
Rather, it's necessary to enter a separate dialing rule for every area code
in the United States.

Am I correct about that? Microsoft can't be that obtuse can it? I am
running XP with SP2 on a Dell 4550.

I'm sure that the MS dialing rules were created at a time when virtually
all (if not actually all) US telephone numbers *within* any given area
code were dialed without using the area code. Thus, the default rule for
numbers in the same area or city code is Prefix-SubscriberNumber. For
example, 555-0101.

OTOH, the default rule for numbers in other area or city codes is:
LongDistanceOperator (AreaOrCityCode) Prefix-SubscriberNumber. For
example, 1 (425) 555-0101.

As you point out, some areas (e.g., NYC) now require the use of the
entire 10-digit number, plus the prefix "1", for all numbers, regardless
of whether they are local calls.

You don't need to set up a rule for every area code in the US, because
the default rule for *other* area codes is, in fact, what you want. Your
problem is that for local calls, the default rule is now obsolete. So
set up an area code rule for your home area code that overrides the
default by adding the prefix and the area code.

Search "dialing rules" in Help & Support for details.

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