Slow track 10074 now avail

On 04/29/2015 05:54 PM, Paul wrote:
philo wrote:
Downloading now

"Calling Dr.Todd to surgery.
Calling Dr.Todd to surgery.
Your shipment of Frankenstein is in."

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...so-update-1504

Windows 10 Insider Preview (x64) - Build 10074
SHA1 E354B44994B46FB7CDC295FA1F075D9F95FECEA8
Download (3.78 GB)
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/p/?LinkId=522144 (USA version)

Windows 10 Insider Preview (x86) - Build 10074
SHA1 563FFADAE3577E7AD0E1CB61BEF58D48A17A9D91
Download (2.77 GB)
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/p/?LinkId=522145 (USA version)

HTH,
Paul


Hi Paul,

THANK YOU!

New product key too: 6P99N-YF42M-TPGBG-9VMJP-YKHCF

-T

Me thinks a wipe and full reinstall. Would love to see if
it eats up my full 40 GB dynamically expanding virtual
hard drive again.

Also want to see if they are up to their usually trickery to
avoid a local account.

On 04/30/2015 06:31 AM, Chris S wrote:

"Paul" wrote in message
...
philo wrote:
Downloading now

"Calling Dr.Todd to surgery.
Calling Dr.Todd to surgery.
Your shipment of Frankenstein is in."

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...so-update-1504

Windows 10 Insider Preview (x64) - Build 10074
SHA1 E354B44994B46FB7CDC295FA1F075D9F95FECEA8
Download (3.78 GB)
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/p/?LinkId=522144 (USA version)

Windows 10 Insider Preview (x86) - Build 10074
SHA1 563FFADAE3577E7AD0E1CB61BEF58D48A17A9D91
Download (2.77 GB)
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/p/?LinkId=522145 (USA version)

HTH,
Paul

Got it! 64bit. Downloaded in 10 minutes! Love my FiOS!

Chris


FiOS ???? You know this means I have to hate you. :-)

On 01 May 2015, Brian Gregory wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-10:

Drat, it's also NOT an EXE file.
:-(

No - the Guest Additions is an ISO, and the Extension Pack has the file
extension "vbox-extpack", which is associated only with Virtualbox.

I've never understood what the Extension Pack does, exactly, but it
never seems to hurt anything, so I keep installing it.

T wrote:

Would love to see if it eats up my full 40 GB dynamically expanding
virtual hard drive again.

I installed it into a 16GB virtual disk, and it either used 6GB, or left
6GB, can't remember which.

Also want to see if they are up to their usually trickery to avoid a
local account.

I had to say it was a 'company owned computer' to allow it to create a
local account, when I said it was a 'personally owned computer', it
seemed to insist on logging on with an MS account - I didn't try with it
isolated from the internet.

On 05/01/2015 01:21 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
T wrote:

Would love to see if it eats up my full 40 GB dynamically expanding
virtual hard drive again.

I installed it into a 16GB virtual disk, and it either used 6GB, or left
6GB, can't remember which.

Hi Andy,

Where it starts to eat you alive is when it starts downloading
and installing new releases. As far as I can tell, it creates
a copy of the iso like file it downloads for twice the
space, then it rename the windows directory to windows.old
and installs an entirely new windows directory.

The time I tried to get rid of windows.old, I have to boot
into a Linux Live CD to whack it.


Also want to see if they are up to their usually trickery to avoid a
local account.

I had to say it was a 'company owned computer' to allow it to create a
local account, when I said it was a 'personally owned computer', it
seemed to insist on logging on with an MS account - I didn't try with it
isolated from the internet.

M$ is being tricky. For a personally owned computer. At the
account sign up screen screen, select:
"Or Create new account", "Sign up" (gray box)

Then, "Connect my account Later"

The normal, local account creation screen will then appear

-T

On 05/01/2015 12:07 PM, Bob Henson wrote:
On 01/05/2015 7:34 pm, Bob Henson wrote:
On 29/04/2015 11:44 pm, philo wrote:
Downloading now


Anyone found out how to colour the taskbar in this version? On here
volume/network/etc. icons are white on nearly white - what genius
thought that one up. The Windows border colur setting has no effect on
it, and I can't find anmything else that does.


Ah, found the problem - this version clashes with Classic Start -
without which it is unusable anyway. Hmmm, there's probably a way round it.

Regards,

Bob



Hi Bob,

Great find. Thank you for sharing.

-T

T wrote:


The time I tried to get rid of windows.old, I have to boot
into a Linux Live CD to whack it.


And I thought you were some kind of IT guy ?

The policies differ, from one OS to the next, but
the latest policy is:

1) Automatic removal of Windows.old after 30 days.
Do an upgrade install, and 30 days later, if you
haven't tended to it, Windows removes Windows.old itself.
Obviously, this has pros and cons.

2) Windows.old is removed by Disk Cleanup, by ticking
the appropriate box. In my case, right after 10074
upgrade installation (USB stick, setup.exe), I
used "cleanmgr.exe" to get rid of it. The Disk Cleanup
dialog indicated a saving of around 13GB.

3) While you can remove Windows.old with Linux, it's silly
to do it that way when Disk Cleanup (cleanmgr) has that
capability. You might make the argument that you could
remove it faster from Linux - but the test I did in
10074, it wasn't one of those 60 minute long deletion
exercises. It completed in less time than that. By the
time I booted a Linux CD, and tended to the matter, then
booted back, I doubt I would have saved any time. There was
a time, when Disk Cleanup was "such a clunker", I would have
been tempted to use Linux.

And modern systems (not the ones we're testing on here),
will be using WIM-boot. For which the upgrade procedure,
the "saved" file situation, will be different. I'm not
aware of anyone here, doing Preview installs on a
WIM-boot tablet, so information will be scarce. Microsoft
knows they have to deal with a 32GB storage device, with user
files on it, so space is limited.

Paul

Paul wrote:


There are currently two dialogs on the computer "Device Setup".
The LAN LED is going crazy, and something is being downloaded.
It's been running for a while.

It turned out, the two weird looking icons, and rather large
dialog boxes, were for the "dual heads" of the video card. One
large driver package should be downloaded, then used twice (once
per head), to load the video driver. I suppose Microsoft was
using this as a test case of automated driver updating. My video
card was ATI HD6450 (el cheapo video).

Paul

On 05/01/2015 11:42 PM, Paul wrote:
T wrote:


The time I tried to get rid of windows.old, I have to boot
into a Linux Live CD to whack it.


And I thought you were some kind of IT guy ?

Private contractor, I.T. for hire. I have a
BS degree in Computer and Electrical Engineering
and have been involved in electronics for over
41 years.


The policies differ, from one OS to the next, but
the latest policy is:

1) Automatic removal of Windows.old after 30 days.
Do an upgrade install, and 30 days later, if you
haven't tended to it, Windows removes Windows.old itself.
Obviously, this has pros and cons.

2) Windows.old is removed by Disk Cleanup, by ticking
the appropriate box. In my case, right after 10074
upgrade installation (USB stick, setup.exe), I
used "cleanmgr.exe" to get rid of it. The Disk Cleanup
dialog indicated a saving of around 13GB.

3) While you can remove Windows.old with Linux, it's silly
to do it that way when Disk Cleanup (cleanmgr) has that
capability. You might make the argument that you could
remove it faster from Linux - but the test I did in
10074, it wasn't one of those 60 minute long deletion
exercises. It completed in less time than that. By the
time I booted a Linux CD, and tended to the matter, then
booted back, I doubt I would have saved any time. There was
a time, when Disk Cleanup was "such a clunker", I would have
been tempted to use Linux.

And modern systems (not the ones we're testing on here),
will be using WIM-boot. For which the upgrade procedure,
the "saved" file situation, will be different. I'm not
aware of anyone here, doing Preview installs on a
WIM-boot tablet, so information will be scarce. Microsoft
knows they have to deal with a 32GB storage device, with user
files on it, so space is limited.

Paul

Hi Paul,

Did not know about the 30 day thing. Thank you!

My use of tools differs from that of a standard user.
So, some of the things I do may seem a bit odd to you.

I haven't had the best of luck at times with Disk
Cleanup. But, usually when that happens, a lot of
other things are wrong too. And bear in mind, I tend
to look for trouble with the previews so I can learn
how to cope with them. And I only get called to
customer sites after they have given up trying
to fix it themselves.

On my virtual machine, it is so ridiculously easy
to mount a Live CD's ISO. And, they boot in a
blink of an eye. Plus, it is good practice, as
I use Live CD's/USB's all the time in the field
to rescue Windows machines. I once used a Bart
PE disk to rescue Linux. Had a good chuckle over
that! (Bart PE and W7 PE take so long to boot, they
drive me nuts! But they definitely have their uses.)

Sometimes when I am doing a network project, I will
boot my Live USB just because Linux has all
the cool network goodies and it reduces the frustration
factor by about 80%. (I have a tricked out Live USB
with all my favorite tools and their documentation.)

Plus, I also do other things, such as the cleanup of
temp files while I am at it, as the file locks are
all inactive.

And, well, it is fun.

As for Disk Cleanup, I usually do it manually. (The user
has typically already tried that avenue.) I especially
go after the Temp directories manually because I want to
see who has what locked. It is a favorite hiding place
for malware/junkware. (If I can't unlock them, in comes
Live CD/USB.)

-T

You got to wait 30 days? :'(

On 05/01/2015 11:17 PM, T wrote:
On 05/01/2015 12:07 PM, Bob Henson wrote:
On 01/05/2015 7:34 pm, Bob Henson wrote:
On 29/04/2015 11:44 pm, philo wrote:
Downloading now


Anyone found out how to colour the taskbar in this version? On here
volume/network/etc. icons are white on nearly white - what genius
thought that one up. The Windows border colur setting has no effect on
it, and I can't find anmything else that does.


Ah, found the problem - this version clashes with Classic Start -
without which it is unusable anyway. Hmmm, there's probably a way
round it.

Regards,

Bob



Hi Bob,

Great find. Thank you for sharing.

-T

Hi Bob,

You know the cure is to either remove or upgrade
Classic Shell before upgrading. Problem: who remembers!
Plus M$ is now forcing upgraded on us, so you never know
when it will happen.

-T

On 02/05/2015 8:31 am, T wrote:
On 05/01/2015 11:17 PM, T wrote:
On 05/01/2015 12:07 PM, Bob Henson wrote:
On 01/05/2015 7:34 pm, Bob Henson wrote:
On 29/04/2015 11:44 pm, philo wrote:
Downloading now


Anyone found out how to colour the taskbar in this version? On here
volume/network/etc. icons are white on nearly white - what genius
thought that one up. The Windows border colur setting has no effect on
it, and I can't find anmything else that does.


Ah, found the problem - this version clashes with Classic Start -
without which it is unusable anyway. Hmmm, there's probably a way
round it.

Regards,

Bob



Hi Bob,

Great find. Thank you for sharing.

-T

Hi Bob,

You know the cure is to either remove or upgrade
Classic Shell before upgrading. Problem: who remembers!
Plus M$ is now forcing upgraded on us, so you never know
when it will happen.

-T


It needed a couple of settings changed to fix it - even when
re-installed after the update. If anyone had all the default settings
for Classic Shell it would have been OK, but a couple that I had
previously changed caused the problem.


--
Bob
Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England

A slug is just a homeless snail.

On 01/05/2015 20:56, Nil wrote:
On 01 May 2015, Brian Gregory wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-10:

Drat, it's also NOT an EXE file.
:-(

No - the Guest Additions is an ISO, and the Extension Pack has the file
extension "vbox-extpack", which is associated only with Virtualbox.

Yes, I made a right fool of myself with that sequence of posts.
:-)


I've never understood what the Extension Pack does, exactly, but it
never seems to hurt anything, so I keep installing it.


I install it because it lets me choose selected USB2 devices on the host
and let the VM see them as if they were plugged in to the VM directly.

Without the Extension Pack this I think this can only be done with USB1
devices.

--

Brian Gregory (in the UK).
To email me please remove all the letter vee from my email address.

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On 30 Apr 2015, philo wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-10:

I went to Oracle's home page and see no Guest Additions avail for
4.3.26

I guess I would need them for shared folders

AArgh, found them and now installed.

Time for another coffee I think

They are hard to find. I have this location bookmarked:

http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/

Normally, when you upgrade Virtualbox, it will offer to download the
guest additions, but I've found that sometimes it doesn't. I will
always have already downloaded them. Also the Extension Pack.

Ths newsgroup is for stuff about windows 10

On 15 May 2015, User wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-10:

Ths newsgroup is for stuff about windows 10

Did you figure that out on your own or did you have help?