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AnonLinuxUser wrote:
On 1/6/2020 6:37 PM, Paul wrote: nospam wrote: In article , Paul wrote: Apple supplies are contracted out, which is a general industry trend for OEM computers. false. There are no Apple branded electrolytic capacitors, or Apple factories for PSUs. (It says right on the side of the PSU in my Mac G4, that's a 20 year old computer long obsolete, and caps aren't the issue anyway. So you admit then, that it happened and it's true. "20 year old computer" equals "Apple made it and was proud of it at the time". https://www.flickr.com/photos/babz4x...n/photostream/ Because flickr is so much fun to navigate, here is the picture as seen in my browser. https://i.postimg.cc/QChfKHcg/dongguan.jpg Dongguan Samsung Electro-mechanics === This is the OEM making the subassembly Made in China S/N: Apple P/N: 614-0224 === This is the Apple BOM item So, yes, yes, Petunia, Apple is not fully vertically integrated. When it makes sense to buy a subassembly from a third party, they do. Just as when I worked in my fully vertically integrated company, if I needed a "ua741", I didn't go down to the fab and hand-hew the ****ing thing out of raw silicon. I ran down to Radio Shack and got one for a buck. Lots of stuff came as subassemblies. When I was in our "computer making" division, the power supplies were perfectly awful OEM units. "I spit on them" was the brand name. What Apple uses for OEM, are better quality than anything we ever put in a box. HTH, Paul That's the way the industry works. Why reinvent the wheel when someone else has what you want cheap? It's almost a push-button industry. You bring a bag of money, give a list of voltages and currents, indicate what "certs" you want, device dimensions, what protection features (OCP,OVP,UVLO,whatever), and you can have a PSU made for you. (We had a division at work which could do this for you, too. They were so good, we sold them off, lock, stock, and barrel, to a power supply company :-/ The employees, never to be heard of again.) The PSU in the picture (and a few from that generation), have some of the same voltages as ATX. The difference is, that PSU has a +25V DC output for running a computer monitor. Apple "attempted" lockin, by offering some monitors that didn't need a power cord. They would get their power from a 25VDC output on the monitor faceplate. This did not prevent the usage of regular monitors, so it's not "real lockin", but you can see what they were up to. Apple stopped doing that after a while. I'm familiar with this, only in as much as I modded an Apple AGP video card for usage in a PC. I seem to remember four electrical connections needed slight mods (as well as flashing in a PC ROM image). Why did I mod a card intended for an Apple ? It's because I only ever got one driver for the card, and ATI didn't provide any more updates for the driver. So I said "**** it, I'll get some usage of the card in my PC". And I gamed on that card for another five years after the mod. The Mac G4 went back to using the 9000 it came with (still good, for what it is). Paul |
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On 2020-01-07, Joel wrote:
mGhost wrote: On 2020-01-07, Joel wrote: Snit wrote: Could be... though I suspect Marek is Carroll. Not gonna track times or anything else to try to find evidence one way or the other. Either Carroll or someone emulating his tactics. More important things to do in life than figure out who is playing what circus games. I just found it ironic that someone was using multiple fake nyms to falsely accuse you of doing that. In short, at least for now, I am largely taking your advice. Yes, I get pulled into his crap too easily. It is a waste of time, for sure. I owe it to myself not to get too deep into it. oh mr right hand, you sure do get sucked into these things don't you? Thanks for asking mr left hand. I sure do. lol. You're the sock, so you're talking to yourself. Oh mr left foot you are so smart. we're so blessed you're here. That's right mr right hand. i'm a very stable genius. Here let me post my clever recipe pdf system for all to see and praise me. You are so honorable and smart. We're all super glad you came to this group to share your wisdom. -- Я гость в отеле |
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On 07/01/2020 17:29, Snit wrote:
On 1/7/20 4:09 AM, David wrote: On 07/01/2020 00:41, Snit wrote: On 1/6/20 5:16 PM, David wrote: On 06/01/2020 23:15, Snit wrote: On 1/6/20 3:59 PM, David wrote: ... https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_...as_Nevada.html Although we had pre-booked for two nights, we didn't like Vegas and moved on after just a one night stop. Death Valley was much more to our liking! ;-) Been a while since I have been back to Vegas, but I am familiar with the Strip and Circus Circus. Used to go there as a kid and play the games. I got quite good at a car race one -- found a way to not exactly cheat but play focused on things most did not so I won more often than not ... but they got rid of it. I am guessing I am not the only one who found the trick. Sometimes it's advantageous not the be one of the sheeple! ;-) Did you go on to learn about 'computing' so that you could earn a living at what you enjoy doing? Got into computing sorta by accident. Was getting my degree in Vegas (UNLV) in psychology. I worked my way through college to get that degree by working in the computer labs. When I got the job I had used Apple IIe systems but nothing else. Was then put in the library lab which had Macs, DOS machines, and UNIX dummy terminals. I did not know how to turn any of them on... but I caught on quickly. I am one of the few who can say I started working with those three OSs literally on the same day, and very shortly got introduced to MS Word on Macs, Word Perfect on DOS, and vi on UNIX (along with other software on each). Six years later I was running a cluster of education computer labs and teaching computers to at-risk high school students through the Upward Bound program. Left college and was a substitution teacher for a year (K-12 and special ed) and then got a job as head of tech support and the sysop for a communication system that worked with the Clark County School district (about 200 schools at the time) and 100 or so United Way Agencies. To do the training I developed a way to do it on the system we were using (FirstClass, at the time owned by SoftArc) and developed what is now known as an online class (as far as I know the term did not exist). I am sure there were others doing similar things, but I really do not know of any other large scale online classes that happened before the one I designed (and helped to teach). That was back in 1993 or so. Then I moved to Tucson and did tech support for a bit before being moved up to being a trainer. I am more of a teacher at heart than a hard core tech person, though clearly I have a focus on tech. How about you? You can find out a bit about me he- https://www.linkedin.com/in/boaterdave/ If you have any questions, just ask! I'm off to my bed now, though. It's after midnight! 'nite! See you have an interest in Raspberry Pi systems (Pies?). I do not have one but know someone who uses a couple for his own home weather station... do anything interesting with them? My son, who's probably about your age, gave me a Pi for Christmas a few years ago. Sadly, it's still brand new in its box, although I did open up the box to look at it! I wish I'd had such a 'toy' when I was forever experimenting as a lad! I'm sure I'll think of something positive to do with it one day. :-) I am sure I would find use for one if I had one, but not really chomping at the bit to get one. The weather station controller is pretty cool but I am happy just checking weather.com. Yes - me too! ;-) Still, I like to tinker. I was one of those kids who had a 101 in 1 (or whatever) electronic kits who figured out I could have my own TV station and then boost the power (hoping not to blow the thing up) and then walk up and down the street blocking channel 8 (used to be the main news channel people watched at least in my area of Vegas). OK, not exactly the best thing to do but I suppose worse things kids can get into. I apologise for calling you John. I am over it. You are easily pleased. I like you! :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkLRZzukcJc&t= In real life, if I meet someone whose name I do not know (or have maybe forgotten!) I at some stage call them John. Like the 80/20 rule, more often than not it is correct! If it's not, the person will invariably correct me and proffer their ACTUAL name without me asking for it! Yes, cheeky I know! ;-) For men my age in America the name "Michael" works much the same... so you can call me that. Thank you, Michael. :-) -- David |
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On 2020-01-07, David wrote:
On 07/01/2020 17:29, Snit wrote: On 1/7/20 4:09 AM, David wrote: On 07/01/2020 00:41, Snit wrote: On 1/6/20 5:16 PM, David wrote: On 06/01/2020 23:15, Snit wrote: On 1/6/20 3:59 PM, David wrote: ... https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_...as_Nevada.html Although we had pre-booked for two nights, we didn't like Vegas and moved on after just a one night stop. Death Valley was much more to our liking! ;-) Been a while since I have been back to Vegas, but I am familiar with the Strip and Circus Circus. Used to go there as a kid and play the games. I got quite good at a car race one -- found a way to not exactly cheat but play focused on things most did not so I won more often than not ... but they got rid of it. I am guessing I am not the only one who found the trick. Sometimes it's advantageous not the be one of the sheeple! ;-) Did you go on to learn about 'computing' so that you could earn a living at what you enjoy doing? Got into computing sorta by accident. Was getting my degree in Vegas (UNLV) in psychology. I worked my way through college to get that degree by working in the computer labs. When I got the job I had used Apple IIe systems but nothing else. Was then put in the library lab which had Macs, DOS machines, and UNIX dummy terminals. I did not know how to turn any of them on... but I caught on quickly. I am one of the few who can say I started working with those three OSs literally on the same day, and very shortly got introduced to MS Word on Macs, Word Perfect on DOS, and vi on UNIX (along with other software on each). Six years later I was running a cluster of education computer labs and teaching computers to at-risk high school students through the Upward Bound program. Left college and was a substitution teacher for a year (K-12 and special ed) and then got a job as head of tech support and the sysop for a communication system that worked with the Clark County School district (about 200 schools at the time) and 100 or so United Way Agencies. To do the training I developed a way to do it on the system we were using (FirstClass, at the time owned by SoftArc) and developed what is now known as an online class (as far as I know the term did not exist). I am sure there were others doing similar things, but I really do not know of any other large scale online classes that happened before the one I designed (and helped to teach). That was back in 1993 or so. Then I moved to Tucson and did tech support for a bit before being moved up to being a trainer. I am more of a teacher at heart than a hard core tech person, though clearly I have a focus on tech. How about you? You can find out a bit about me he- https://www.linkedin.com/in/boaterdave/ If you have any questions, just ask! I'm off to my bed now, though. It's after midnight! 'nite! See you have an interest in Raspberry Pi systems (Pies?). I do not have one but know someone who uses a couple for his own home weather station... do anything interesting with them? My son, who's probably about your age, gave me a Pi for Christmas a few years ago. Sadly, it's still brand new in its box, although I did open up the box to look at it! I wish I'd had such a 'toy' when I was forever experimenting as a lad! I'm sure I'll think of something positive to do with it one day. :-) I am sure I would find use for one if I had one, but not really chomping at the bit to get one. The weather station controller is pretty cool but I am happy just checking weather.com. Yes - me too! ;-) Still, I like to tinker. I was one of those kids who had a 101 in 1 (or whatever) electronic kits who figured out I could have my own TV station and then boost the power (hoping not to blow the thing up) and then walk up and down the street blocking channel 8 (used to be the main news channel people watched at least in my area of Vegas). OK, not exactly the best thing to do but I suppose worse things kids can get into. I apologise for calling you John. I am over it. You are easily pleased. I like you! :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkLRZzukcJc&t= In real life, if I meet someone whose name I do not know (or have maybe forgotten!) I at some stage call them John. Like the 80/20 rule, more often than not it is correct! If it's not, the person will invariably correct me and proffer their ACTUAL name without me asking for it! Yes, cheeky I know! ;-) For men my age in America the name "Michael" works much the same... so you can call me that. Thank you, Michael. :-) Thank you mr left hand. You sure are cool. -- Я гость в отеле |
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On 07/01/2020 20:43, mGhost was warned.
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On 1/7/20 1:43 PM, mGhost wrote:
On 2020-01-07, Joel wrote: mGhost wrote: On 2020-01-07, Joel wrote: Snit wrote: Could be... though I suspect Marek is Carroll. Not gonna track times or anything else to try to find evidence one way or the other. Either Carroll or someone emulating his tactics. More important things to do in life than figure out who is playing what circus games. I just found it ironic that someone was using multiple fake nyms to falsely accuse you of doing that. In short, at least for now, I am largely taking your advice. Yes, I get pulled into his crap too easily. It is a waste of time, for sure. I owe it to myself not to get too deep into it. oh mr right hand, you sure do get sucked into these things don't you? Thanks for asking mr left hand. I sure do. lol. You're the sock, so you're talking to yourself. Oh mr left foot you are so smart. we're so blessed you're here. That's right mr right hand. i'm a very stable genius. Here let me post my clever recipe pdf system for all to see and praise me. Odd how you would reference a discussion that happened back in 2015 when you are so "new" here, but hey, here is the video you are clearly referencing: https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0 If you have something of value to add to the topic I would love to see it. Heck, Owl took that "challenge" or "task" or whatever and came up with a more complex one. I took that on. We had a number of videos back and forth, but this is where I show one of my solutions: https://youtu.be/IfZIa6PqRFo Odd that you, a new person to the group, would be so interested in such things. What sparked your interest in such things? You are so honorable and smart. We're all super glad you came to this group to share your wisdom. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. |
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On 1/7/20 1:53 PM, David wrote:
On 07/01/2020 17:29, Snit wrote: On 1/7/20 4:09 AM, David wrote: On 07/01/2020 00:41, Snit wrote: On 1/6/20 5:16 PM, David wrote: On 06/01/2020 23:15, Snit wrote: On 1/6/20 3:59 PM, David wrote: ... https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_...as_Nevada.html Although we had pre-booked for two nights, we didn't like Vegas and moved on after just a one night stop. Death Valley was much more to our liking! ;-) Been a while since I have been back to Vegas, but I am familiar with the Strip and Circus Circus. Used to go there as a kid and play the games. I got quite good at a car race one -- found a way to not exactly cheat but play focused on things most did not so I won more often than not ... but they got rid of it. I am guessing I am not the only one who found the trick. Sometimes it's advantageous not the be one of the sheeple! ;-) Did you go on to learn about 'computing' so that you could earn a living at what you enjoy doing? Got into computing sorta by accident. Was getting my degree in Vegas (UNLV) in psychology. I worked my way through college to get that degree by working in the computer labs. When I got the job I had used Apple IIe systems but nothing else. Was then put in the library lab which had Macs, DOS machines, and UNIX dummy terminals. I did not know how to turn any of them on... but I caught on quickly. I am one of the few who can say I started working with those three OSs literally on the same day, and very shortly got introduced to MS Word on Macs, Word Perfect on DOS, and vi on UNIX (along with other software on each). Six years later I was running a cluster of education computer labs and teaching computers to at-risk high school students through the Upward Bound program. Left college and was a substitution teacher for a year (K-12 and special ed) and then got a job as head of tech support and the sysop for a communication system that worked with the Clark County School district (about 200 schools at the time) and 100 or so United Way Agencies. To do the training I developed a way to do it on the system we were using (FirstClass, at the time owned by SoftArc) and developed what is now known as an online class (as far as I know the term did not exist). I am sure there were others doing similar things, but I really do not know of any other large scale online classes that happened before the one I designed (and helped to teach). That was back in 1993 or so. Then I moved to Tucson and did tech support for a bit before being moved up to being a trainer. I am more of a teacher at heart than a hard core tech person, though clearly I have a focus on tech. How about you? You can find out a bit about me he- https://www.linkedin.com/in/boaterdave/ If you have any questions, just ask! I'm off to my bed now, though. It's after midnight! 'nite! See you have an interest in Raspberry Pi systems (Pies?). I do not have one but know someone who uses a couple for his own home weather station... do anything interesting with them? My son, who's probably about your age, gave me a Pi for Christmas a few years ago. Sadly, it's still brand new in its box, although I did open up the box to look at it! I wish I'd had such a 'toy' when I was forever experimenting as a lad! I'm sure I'll think of something positive to do with it one day. :-) I am sure I would find use for one if I had one, but not really chomping at the bit to get one. The weather station controller is pretty cool but I am happy just checking weather.com. Yes - me too! ;-) Still, I like to tinker. I was one of those kids who had a 101 in 1 (or whatever) electronic kits who figured out I could have my own TV station and then boost the power (hoping not to blow the thing up) and then walk up and down the street blocking channel 8 (used to be the main news channel people watched at least in my area of Vegas). OK, not exactly the best thing to do but I suppose worse things kids can get into. I apologise for calling you John. I am over it. You are easily pleased. I like you! :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkLRZzukcJc&t= Like much good humor says something about our cultures. In real life, if I meet someone whose name I do not know (or have maybe forgotten!) I at some stage call them John. Like the 80/20 rule, more often than not it is correct! If it's not, the person will invariably correct me and proffer their ACTUAL name without me asking for it! Yes, cheeky I know! ;-) For men my age in America the name "Michael" works much the same... so you can call me that. Thank you, Michael. :-) -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. |
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On 07/01/2020 21:12, Snit wrote:
Like much good humor says something about our cultures. Is there a comma missing? I don't wish to misunderstand. Please clarify. |
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On 1/7/20 2:16 PM, David wrote:
On 07/01/2020 21:12, Snit wrote: Like much good humor says something about our cultures. Is there a comma missing? I don't wish to misunderstand. Please clarify. Sorry: Like much good humor IT says something about our cultures. Yeah, providing all the words in a sentence is generally recommended. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. |
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On 07/01/2020 21:20, Snit wrote:
On 1/7/20 2:16 PM, David wrote: On 07/01/2020 21:12, Snit wrote: Like much good humor says something about our cultures. Is there a comma missing? I don't wish to misunderstand. Please clarify. Sorry: Like much good humor IT says something about our cultures. Yeah, providing all the words in a sentence is generally recommended. Thanks! :-) I hope you didn't mind me asking. Was that *IT* ..... or IT = https://www.acronymfinder.com/IT.html You seem to have quite a reputation. I've been impressed with all I've seen so far. Why have you not been dissuaded to correspond with me by the shady Shadow? Some folk believe the lies and propaganda some spew forth here on Usenet. How is it that /YOU/ know that I'm telling the truth when I tell you that I've had no alcohol, none whatsoever, since 21 March 2018? Please explain to the other readers! ;-) (Follow up set to 'acw') |
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On 1/7/2020 1:18 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , AnonLinuxUser wrote: Well, you definitely did the research. Wife did have a step wave UPS, and the iMac started doing some strange things, (like emptying trash that doesn't empty the trash and hang). Got her a pure sine wave UPS and those problems disappeared. unrelated and a coincidence. Not a coincidence if you know your electronics well enough. i do, and it is very much a coincidence. stepped sine waves won't cause the trash not to empty. The UPS stepped output can cause harmonics that the iMac power supply can't handle. I put a new UPS pure wave output and the problem went away. false. imacs have no issue with stepped sine waves, nor do other macs. But not in my case. Is it a faulty ps in the iMac? Could be, but the pure sine wave output is a much better options. Whether you put much trust in the GeekSquad or not, they did say that some iMacs are affected by this. So I went up to another store and asked the same question. Funny that the store won't stock the cheap stepped UPS, but they do stock the better ones. you also shouldn't be running anything off a ups for an extended period of time anyway. it's for brief amounts of time, to safely shut down. The UPS has about 2 hours of power before I have to shut down the iMac. that said, i've run several different macs, pcs, upses and many other devices for 30+ minutes off a cheap ups (stepped sine) without issue. But not her iMac. It is not fun to have a hanging process. You have to, in this instance, bring up Activity Monitor and force quit Finder. Which, in this case, also mandates a restart. |
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On 1/7/2020 1:18 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , AnonLinuxUser wrote: That's the way the industry works. Why reinvent the wheel when someone else has what you want cheap? because cheap crap isn't good enough. Which is why I purchased a better UPS. Problem solved. |
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On 1/7/2020 1:34 PM, chrisv wrote:
nospam wrote: AnonLinuxUser wrote: That's the way the industry works. Why reinvent the wheel when someone else has what you want cheap? because cheap crap isn't good enough. Indeed. The fact that the wheel has already been invented, does not mean that all applications for the wheel have been adequately served. There will always be new applications, and the demand for different designs and quality levels. Agree there. A co-worker of mine had purchased a G5 mac, and found that it needed a new power supply. One set of caps had a couple of volts over the working voltage, so he ordered some caps that had twice the working voltage. Seemed to make it more reliable. Sometimes little things like this get overlooked somehow. |
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On 1/7/2020 1:37 PM, Paul wrote:
AnonLinuxUser wrote: On 1/6/2020 6:37 PM, Paul wrote: nospam wrote: In article , Paul wrote: Apple supplies are contracted out, which is a general industry trend for OEM computers. false. There are no Apple branded electrolytic capacitors, or Apple factories for PSUs. (It says right on the side of the PSU in my Mac G4, that's a 20 year old computer long obsolete, and caps aren't the issue anyway. So you admit then, that it happened and it's true. "20 year old computer"** equals** "Apple made it and was proud of it at the time". https://www.flickr.com/photos/babz4x...n/photostream/ Because flickr is so much fun to navigate, here is the picture as seen in my browser. https://i.postimg.cc/QChfKHcg/dongguan.jpg *** Dongguan Samsung Electro-mechanics* === This is the OEM making the subassembly *** Made in China *** S/N: *** Apple P/N: 614-0224**************** === This is the Apple BOM item So, yes, yes, Petunia, Apple is not fully vertically integrated. When it makes sense to buy a subassembly from a third party, they do. Just as when I worked in my fully vertically integrated company, if I needed a "ua741", I didn't go down to the fab and hand-hew the ****ing thing out of raw silicon. I ran down to Radio Shack and got one for a buck. Lots of stuff came as subassemblies. When I was in our "computer making" division, the power supplies were perfectly awful OEM units. "I spit on them" was the brand name. What Apple uses for OEM, are better quality than anything we ever put in a box. HTH, ***** Paul That's the way the industry works.* Why reinvent the wheel when someone else has what you want cheap? It's almost a push-button industry. You bring a bag of money, give a list of voltages and currents, indicate what "certs" you want, device dimensions, what protection features (OCP,OVP,UVLO,whatever), and you can have a PSU made for you. (We had a division at work which could do this for you, too. They were so good, we sold them off, lock, stock, and barrel, to a power supply company :-/ The employees, never to be heard of again.) The PSU in the picture (and a few from that generation), have some of the same voltages as ATX. The difference is, that PSU has a +25V DC output for running a computer monitor. Apple "attempted" lockin, by offering some monitors that didn't need a power cord. They would get their power from a 25VDC output on the monitor faceplate. This did not prevent the usage of regular monitors, so it's not "real lockin", but you can see what they were up to. Apple stopped doing that after a while. I'm familiar with this, only in as much as I modded an Apple AGP video card for usage in a PC. I seem to remember four electrical connections needed slight mods (as well as flashing in a PC ROM image). Why did I mod a card intended for an Apple ? It's because I only ever got one driver for the card, and ATI didn't provide any more updates for the driver. So I said "**** it, I'll get some usage of the card in my PC". And I gamed on that card for another five years after the mod. The Mac G4 went back to using the 9000 it came with (still good, for what it is). ** Paul Again, you've provided the insight into the industry. No need to spend a lot of money doing the research, only to find out that it can be done by someone with experience and expertise at a much lower cost. |
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In article , AnonLinuxUser
wrote: Well, you definitely did the research. Wife did have a step wave UPS, and the iMac started doing some strange things, (like emptying trash that doesn't empty the trash and hang). Got her a pure sine wave UPS and those problems disappeared. unrelated and a coincidence. Not a coincidence if you know your electronics well enough. i do, and it is very much a coincidence. stepped sine waves won't cause the trash not to empty. The UPS stepped output can cause harmonics that the iMac power supply can't handle. I put a new UPS pure wave output and the problem went away. false. imacs have no issue with stepped sine waves, nor do other macs. But not in my case. Is it a faulty ps in the iMac? Could be, but the pure sine wave output is a much better options. pure sine wave is better but it cannot cause the symptoms you describe. Whether you put much trust in the GeekSquad or not, they did say that some iMacs are affected by this. geeksquad? seriously? So I went up to another store and asked the same question. Funny that the store won't stock the cheap stepped UPS, but they do stock the better ones. that means nothing. you also shouldn't be running anything off a ups for an extended period of time anyway. it's for brief amounts of time, to safely shut down. The UPS has about 2 hours of power before I have to shut down the iMac. higher end upses that last that long normally are pure sinewave. that said, i've run several different macs, pcs, upses and many other devices for 30+ minutes off a cheap ups (stepped sine) without issue. But not her iMac. It is not fun to have a hanging process. You have to, in this instance, bring up Activity Monitor and force quit Finder. Which, in this case, also mandates a restart. no it definitely doesn't require a restart, nor is activity monitor needed to force quit finder. |
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