When does System Restore refuse to put Restore Point down?

It's clear that System Restore does not simply put down a given Registry of
a Restore Point instead of one in existence. Before this System Restore
examines for compatibility the coming Registry and established programmes.
Sometimes System Restore adjusts them, makes some corrections and informs
user about this. But in a complicate situation System Restore cannot make
corrections and refuses to put Restore Point down.

Where can I read about:

1) What does System Restore control specifically?

2) In which situation specifically does System Restore refuse to put Restore
Point down?

3) Is it possible to exclude these testings from System Restore?

Thanks in advance

Lev

How to restore the operating system to a previous state in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;Q306084

Windows XP System Restore Is Easy to Use
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...w_03may19.mspx

Frequently Asked Questions Regarding System Restore in Windows XP
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com.../faqsrwxp.mspx

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"Lev" wrote:

| It's clear that System Restore does not simply put down a given Registry of
| a Restore Point instead of one in existence. Before this System Restore
| examines for compatibility the coming Registry and established programmes.
| Sometimes System Restore adjusts them, makes some corrections and informs
| user about this. But in a complicate situation System Restore cannot make
| corrections and refuses to put Restore Point down.
|
| Where can I read about:
|
| 1) What does System Restore control specifically?
|
| 2) In which situation specifically does System Restore refuse to put Restore
| Point down?
|
| 3) Is it possible to exclude these testings from System Restore?
|
| Thanks in advance
|
| Lev

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote in message
...
How to restore the operating system to a previous state in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;Q306084

Windows XP System Restore Is Easy to Use
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...w_03may19.mspx

Frequently Asked Questions Regarding System Restore in Windows XP
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com.../faqsrwxp.mspx

--
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Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.mspx

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Lev" wrote:

| It's clear that System Restore does not simply put down a given Registry
of
| a Restore Point instead of one in existence. Before this System Restore
| examines for compatibility the coming Registry and established
programmes.
| Sometimes System Restore adjusts them, makes some corrections and
informs
| user about this. But in a complicate situation System Restore cannot
make
| corrections and refuses to put Restore Point down.
|
| Where can I read about:
|
| 1) What does System Restore control specifically?
|
| 2) In which situation specifically does System Restore refuse to put
Restore
| Point down?
|
| 3) Is it possible to exclude these testings from System Restore?
|
| Thanks in advance
|
| Lev

System Restore does not automatically create Restore Points for me as the
vent Log 'claims' I have insufficient space. All partitions and drives have
10GB plus free space. Have tried reloading SR but have not yet been able to
solve the problem. Any suggestions? I can create Restore Points manually,
any number on any day, but all but one are deleted after 24 hours
presumeably by FIFO.

Hi Lev,

Microsoft Windows XP System Restore (Windows XP Technical Articles)
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en...emrestore_auto

Troubleshooting System Restore in Windows XP:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q302796

System Restore "Restore Points" Are Missing or Deleted :
http://support.microsoft.com/support.../Q301/2/24.asp

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/


Lev wrote:
It's clear that System Restore does not simply put down a
given Registry of a Restore Point instead of one in
existence. Before this System Restore examines for
compatibility the coming Registry and established
programmes. Sometimes System Restore adjusts them, makes
some corrections and informs user about this. But in a
complicate situation System Restore cannot make
corrections and refuses to put Restore Point down.
Where can I read about:

1) What does System Restore control specifically?

2) In which situation specifically does System Restore
refuse to put Restore Point down?

3) Is it possible to exclude these testings from System
Restore?
Thanks in advance

Lev

Hi Edward,

I would suggest you start by disabling SR on all drives and
partitions.

Do a virus scan with up to date virus software, and a scan for any
installed spyware.

Turn SR back on on the partition where Windows is installed and any
other partition where applications are installed. SR will be of little
use on partitions used for data storage.

Follow the link below and download "XPSystemRestorePointFrequency.vbs"
utility. Click on the script and it will show the frequency on which
Restore Points are created. It should be set to no more than 24 hours.
http://www.billsway.com/notes%5Fpublic/WinXP%5FTweaks/

If you are in need of virus software, here are a couple to choose
from, for free.
Download the software, and in Update Manager run Update
then do a complete virus scan.
Free Offer: eTrust EZ Armor Security Suite from Computer Associates
http://www.my-etrust.com/microsoft/index.cfm

Here is a combination of utilities that works very well in the removal
of Spyware, Parasites and the like:
Ad-aware Personal Edition from Lavasoft http://www.lavasoftusa.com/ is
a free multi spyware removal utility that scans your memory, registry
and hard drives for known spyware components and lets you remove them
safely. Ad-aware PE is does not prevent spyware from being installed.
After installing Ad-Aware and before each scan make sure to run the
update feature before scanning. For large amounts of installed
spyware and such, it may be necessary to run Ad-Aware several times to
clear them all.

Ad-aware Personal Edition finds and removes spyware and the like, it
does not prevent it.
There is no one tool that I know of that removes all known spyware.
Here is a combination that works very well. There is an update feature
in each of these utilities and it *should* be used before they are run
to keep up to date. After these utility are run, re-run them in a week
and see what they pick up.

Here are a couple more removal tools that should also be run.
CWShredder -
http://www.intermute.com/spysubtract..._download.html

Spybot: http://www.safer-networking.org/
Spybot Search and Destroy is more powerful and there is a slight
chance of problems. Using WinXP create a restore point first and see
the Parasite Fight link below.

SpywareBlaster:
http://www.wilderssecurity.net/spywareblaster.html
SpywareBlaster is a preventative non-memory resident program.
Spywareblaster does not scan and clean. Instead, it sets flags (or
kill bits) in the registry to prevent the running of a specific list
of bad spyware related ActiveX controls. This includes general spyware
and malicious dialers. It also blocks a list of known spyware related
cookies in IE6.

--
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Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/


Edward W. Thompson wrote:
System Restore does not automatically create Restore
Points for me as the vent Log 'claims' I have
insufficient space. All partitions and drives have 10GB
plus free space. Have tried reloading SR but have not
yet been able to solve the problem. Any suggestions? I
can create Restore Points manually, any number on any
day, but all but one are deleted after 24 hours
presumeably by FIFO.

Edward

System Restore will create Restore Points for each and every drive /
partition unless told otherwise. As Restore Points essentially only
contain information relating to the windows system there is little point
creating Restore Points for drives / partitions only containing
programme files and or data files.

The way you have phrased your message infers that your 10 gb plus free
space is spread across all drives / partitions. However, only the free
space on the partition containing your Windows operating system will be
taken into account in determining whether it is possible to create
restore points. How large is the partition containing the windows
operating system and how large is the free space on that partition.

If I have deduced the cause of your problem properly it may be possible
to resolve your problem by moving folders / files to another partition.
Where are your temporary internet files and your My Documents located?
Also where is your Outlook Express store folder?

How much drive space is allocated to System Restore for your windows
partition -System Restore -Settings.

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Hope this helps.

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"Edward W. Thompson" wrote in message
...


System Restore does not automatically create Restore Points for me as
the vent Log 'claims' I have insufficient space. All partitions and
drives have 10GB plus free space. Have tried reloading SR but have
not yet been able to solve the problem. Any suggestions? I can
create Restore Points manually, any number on any day, but all but
one are deleted after 24 hours presumeably by FIFO.

My thanks to you and Bert for your replies. Unfortunately I have tried all
the methods suggested without result. I run KAV and NOD32 as AVPs and
CWShredder, Spybot S&D, Ad Aware and SpyBlaster so I think I have as much
protection as is available against 'nasties, as there is. I have also run
on line scanners on the machine and as far as I can determine the the
machine is 'clean'. As far as actual free space is concerned the 10GB plus
free is the space free on partition. I take your point re the need to
create restore points for partitions containing data and program files.

I haven't have yet tried XPSystem RestorePointFrequency.vbs but will do so.

This problem, while it seems rare is not unique. I have seen two other
references to the same problem but no solution so far. As I create daily
copies of the Registry using ERUNT the problem for me is an annoyance rather
than 'critical'.

Once more thanks to you and Bert for your kind advice.


"Gerry Cornell" wrote in message
...
Edward

System Restore will create Restore Points for each and every drive /
partition unless told otherwise. As Restore Points essentially only
contain information relating to the windows system there is little point
creating Restore Points for drives / partitions only containing programme
files and or data files.

The way you have phrased your message infers that your 10 gb plus free
space is spread across all drives / partitions. However, only the free
space on the partition containing your Windows operating system will be
taken into account in determining whether it is possible to create restore
points. How large is the partition containing the windows operating system
and how large is the free space on that partition.

If I have deduced the cause of your problem properly it may be possible to
resolve your problem by moving folders / files to another partition. Where
are your temporary internet files and your My Documents located? Also
where is your Outlook Express store folder?

How much drive space is allocated to System Restore for your windows
partition -System Restore -Settings.

--


Hope this helps.

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"Edward W. Thompson" wrote in message
...


System Restore does not automatically create Restore Points for me as the
vent Log 'claims' I have insufficient space. All partitions and drives
have 10GB plus free space. Have tried reloading SR but have not yet been
able to solve the problem. Any suggestions? I can create Restore Points
manually, any number on any day, but all but one are deleted after 24
hours presumeably by FIFO.

Hi Edward,

Yes run the RestorePointFrequency.vbs script. Make sure the frequency
is set to no more than 24 hours.

If the Disk Cleanup utility is being used, make sure clean up under
System Restore is unchecked on the More Options tab. Having this
checked will remove all restore points except the most recent one.

Perform this test:
1. Confirm that Task Scheduler Service is running.
a. Click Start, click Run, and then type CMD then press enter.
b. Type Net Start at the command prompt and press enter to make
sure that the Task Scheduler service is up and running.
2. Disable and re-enable system restore to delete all the restore
points on the system.
3. Turn off SR on all partitions/drives other than the one Windows is
installed on.
4. Reduce the "Disk space usage" to just under 1GB.
5. Open My Computer and right click on the drive where Windows is
installed and SR is monitoring, then click properties. Confirm that
the free disk space is over 10gbs as noted earlier.
In SR reduce the "Disk space usage" to just under 1GB.
6. Turn off the screen saver, and adjust the power management options
so the system will not go into standby or hibernate.
7. Use the RestorePointFrequency.vbs script and set the frequency to 1
hour. Leave the system unattended for 1 hour, then check SR for an
automatic RP. Restore points are only created during idle time; for
example, when there is no mouse, keyboard, or disk i/o activity.
8. Check the event viewer to see if there are any events denoting
Restore points being purged.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/

Edward W. Thompson wrote:
My thanks to you and Bert for your replies. Unfortunately I have
tried all the methods suggested
without result. I run KAV and NOD32 as AVPs and
CWShredder, Spybot S&D, Ad Aware and SpyBlaster so I
think I have as much protection as is available against
'nasties, as there is. I have also run on line scanners
on the machine and as far as I can determine the the
machine is 'clean'. As far as actual free space is
concerned the 10GB plus free is the space free on
partition. I take your point re the need to create
restore points for partitions containing data and program
files.
I haven't have yet tried XPSystem
RestorePointFrequency.vbs but will do so.
This problem, while it seems rare is not unique. I have
seen two other references to the same problem but no
solution so far. As I create daily copies of the
Registry using ERUNT the problem for me is an annoyance
rather than 'critical'.
Once more thanks to you and Bert for your kind advice.


"Gerry Cornell" wrote
System Restore will create Restore Points for each and
every drive / partition unless told otherwise. As
Restore Points essentially only contain information
relating to the windows system there is little point
creating Restore Points for drives / partitions only
containing programme files and or data files. The way you have
phrased your message infers that your
10 gb plus free space is spread across all drives /
partitions. However, only the free space on the
partition containing your Windows operating system will
be taken into account in determining whether it is
possible to create restore points. How large is the
partition containing the windows operating system and
how large is the free space on that partition. If I have deduced
the cause of your problem properly it
may be possible to resolve your problem by moving
folders / files to another partition. Where are your
temporary internet files and your My Documents located?
Also where is your Outlook Express store folder? How much drive
space is allocated to System Restore for
your windows partition -System Restore -Settings.

--


Hope this helps.

Gerry

"Edward W. Thompson" wrote
System Restore does not automatically create Restore
Points for me as the vent Log 'claims' I have
insufficient space. All partitions and drives have
10GB plus free space. Have tried reloading SR but have
not yet been able to solve the problem. Any
suggestions? I can create Restore Points manually, any
number on any day, but all but one are deleted after
24 hours presumeably by FIFO.

Thanks to all, but I have not received an answer to my second question -
In which situation specifically does System Restore refuse to put
Restore Point down?
In other words - very often I can see such message: "restore point failed.
No changes have been made to the system". And I would like to know: why?
I have read many articles, but have not find the answer. In most cases it is
an old Restore Point - 2 - 3 days old. But if it's so, why should I reserve
significant part of my space for System Restore?
Thanks in advance
Lev

"Bert Kinney" wrote in message
...
Hi Lev,

Microsoft Windows XP System Restore (Windows XP Technical Articles)
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en...emrestore_auto

Troubleshooting System Restore in Windows XP:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q302796

System Restore "Restore Points" Are Missing or Deleted :
http://support.microsoft.com/support.../Q301/2/24.asp

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/


Lev wrote:
It's clear that System Restore does not simply put down a
given Registry of a Restore Point instead of one in
existence. Before this System Restore examines for
compatibility the coming Registry and established
programmes. Sometimes System Restore adjusts them, makes
some corrections and informs user about this. But in a
complicate situation System Restore cannot make
corrections and refuses to put Restore Point down.
Where can I read about:

1) What does System Restore control specifically?

2) In which situation specifically does System Restore
refuse to put Restore Point down?

3) Is it possible to exclude these testings from System
Restore?
Thanks in advance

Lev

Hi Bert:

Your comprehensive suggestions are much appreciated. I have followed your
suggestions and the machine made multiple Restore Points (every hour
setting). The next day, today, after the machine shut down for the night
there are no Restore Points, all have been deleted overnight. This is
typical of my problem. I can make multiple restore poiints on day one but
after an overnight shutdown all are gone. Event Viewer/System shows the
following at about 1700h yesterday

"The System Restore service has been suspended because there is not enough
disk space available on the drive
\\?\Volume{92c3ffeb-0d3d-11d9-9650-806d6172696f}\. System Restore will
automatically resume service once at least 200 MB of free disk space is
available on the system drive".

At startup today in Event Viewer/System the following shows

"The System Restore service has resumed monitoring due to space freed on the
system drive."

Only the partition on drive C is being monitoired by SR and the free space
on the drive is shown as 11.65GB. As only the C: partition is monitored by
SR I am assuming the reference

\\?\Volume{92c3ffeb-0d3d-11d9-9650-806d6172696f}\.

relates to the C: partition although the designator \\?\ seems strange.

Any suggestions on how to solve this will be appreciated.

"Bert Kinney" wrote in message
...
Hi Edward,

Yes run the RestorePointFrequency.vbs script. Make sure the frequency is
set to no more than 24 hours.

If the Disk Cleanup utility is being used, make sure clean up under System
Restore is unchecked on the More Options tab. Having this checked will
remove all restore points except the most recent one.

Perform this test:
1. Confirm that Task Scheduler Service is running.
a. Click Start, click Run, and then type CMD then press enter.
b. Type Net Start at the command prompt and press enter to make sure
that the Task Scheduler service is up and running.
2. Disable and re-enable system restore to delete all the restore points
on the system.
3. Turn off SR on all partitions/drives other than the one Windows is
installed on.
4. Reduce the "Disk space usage" to just under 1GB.
5. Open My Computer and right click on the drive where Windows is
installed and SR is monitoring, then click properties. Confirm that the
free disk space is over 10gbs as noted earlier.
In SR reduce the "Disk space usage" to just under 1GB.
6. Turn off the screen saver, and adjust the power management options so
the system will not go into standby or hibernate.
7. Use the RestorePointFrequency.vbs script and set the frequency to 1
hour. Leave the system unattended for 1 hour, then check SR for an
automatic RP. Restore points are only created during idle time; for
example, when there is no mouse, keyboard, or disk i/o activity.
8. Check the event viewer to see if there are any events denoting Restore
points being purged.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/

Edward W. Thompson wrote:
My thanks to you and Bert for your replies. Unfortunately I have tried
all the methods suggested
without result. I run KAV and NOD32 as AVPs and
CWShredder, Spybot S&D, Ad Aware and SpyBlaster so I
think I have as much protection as is available against
'nasties, as there is. I have also run on line scanners
on the machine and as far as I can determine the the
machine is 'clean'. As far as actual free space is
concerned the 10GB plus free is the space free on
partition. I take your point re the need to create
restore points for partitions containing data and program
files.
I haven't have yet tried XPSystem
RestorePointFrequency.vbs but will do so.
This problem, while it seems rare is not unique. I have
seen two other references to the same problem but no
solution so far. As I create daily copies of the
Registry using ERUNT the problem for me is an annoyance
rather than 'critical'.
Once more thanks to you and Bert for your kind advice.


"Gerry Cornell" wrote
System Restore will create Restore Points for each and
every drive / partition unless told otherwise. As
Restore Points essentially only contain information
relating to the windows system there is little point
creating Restore Points for drives / partitions only
containing programme files and or data files. The way you have phrased
your message infers that your
10 gb plus free space is spread across all drives /
partitions. However, only the free space on the
partition containing your Windows operating system will
be taken into account in determining whether it is
possible to create restore points. How large is the
partition containing the windows operating system and
how large is the free space on that partition. If I have deduced the
cause of your problem properly it
may be possible to resolve your problem by moving
folders / files to another partition. Where are your
temporary internet files and your My Documents located?
Also where is your Outlook Express store folder? How much drive space is
allocated to System Restore for
your windows partition -System Restore -Settings.

--


Hope this helps.

Gerry

"Edward W. Thompson" wrote
System Restore does not automatically create Restore
Points for me as the vent Log 'claims' I have
insufficient space. All partitions and drives have
10GB plus free space. Have tried reloading SR but have
not yet been able to solve the problem. Any
suggestions? I can create Restore Points manually, any
number on any day, but all but one are deleted after
24 hours presumeably by FIFO.

Edward

Have you check the size of the accumulated restore points?

How to Gain Access to the System Volume Information Folder
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;309531

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"Edward W. Thompson" wrote in message
...
Hi Bert:

Your comprehensive suggestions are much appreciated. I have followed
your
suggestions and the machine made multiple Restore Points (every hour
setting). The next day, today, after the machine shut down for the
night
there are no Restore Points, all have been deleted overnight. This is
typical of my problem. I can make multiple restore poiints on day one
but
after an overnight shutdown all are gone. Event Viewer/System shows
the
following at about 1700h yesterday

"The System Restore service has been suspended because there is not
enough
disk space available on the drive
\\?\Volume{92c3ffeb-0d3d-11d9-9650-806d6172696f}\. System Restore will
automatically resume service once at least 200 MB of free disk space
is
available on the system drive".

At startup today in Event Viewer/System the following shows

"The System Restore service has resumed monitoring due to space freed
on the
system drive."

Only the partition on drive C is being monitoired by SR and the free
space
on the drive is shown as 11.65GB. As only the C: partition is
monitored by
SR I am assuming the reference

\\?\Volume{92c3ffeb-0d3d-11d9-9650-806d6172696f}\.

relates to the C: partition although the designator \\?\ seems
strange.

Any suggestions on how to solve this will be appreciated.

"Bert Kinney" wrote in message
...
Hi Edward,

Yes run the RestorePointFrequency.vbs script. Make sure the frequency
is set to no more than 24 hours.

If the Disk Cleanup utility is being used, make sure clean up under
System Restore is unchecked on the More Options tab. Having this
checked will remove all restore points except the most recent one.

Perform this test:
1. Confirm that Task Scheduler Service is running.
a. Click Start, click Run, and then type CMD then press enter.
b. Type Net Start at the command prompt and press enter to make
sure that the Task Scheduler service is up and running.
2. Disable and re-enable system restore to delete all the restore
points on the system.
3. Turn off SR on all partitions/drives other than the one Windows is
installed on.
4. Reduce the "Disk space usage" to just under 1GB.
5. Open My Computer and right click on the drive where Windows is
installed and SR is monitoring, then click properties. Confirm that
the free disk space is over 10gbs as noted earlier.
In SR reduce the "Disk space usage" to just under 1GB.
6. Turn off the screen saver, and adjust the power management options
so the system will not go into standby or hibernate.
7. Use the RestorePointFrequency.vbs script and set the frequency to
1 hour. Leave the system unattended for 1 hour, then check SR for an
automatic RP. Restore points are only created during idle time; for
example, when there is no mouse, keyboard, or disk i/o activity.
8. Check the event viewer to see if there are any events denoting
Restore points being purged.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/

Edward W. Thompson wrote:
My thanks to you and Bert for your replies. Unfortunately I have
tried all the methods suggested
without result. I run KAV and NOD32 as AVPs and
CWShredder, Spybot S&D, Ad Aware and SpyBlaster so I
think I have as much protection as is available against
'nasties, as there is. I have also run on line scanners
on the machine and as far as I can determine the the
machine is 'clean'. As far as actual free space is
concerned the 10GB plus free is the space free on
partition. I take your point re the need to create
restore points for partitions containing data and program
files.
I haven't have yet tried XPSystem
RestorePointFrequency.vbs but will do so.
This problem, while it seems rare is not unique. I have
seen two other references to the same problem but no
solution so far. As I create daily copies of the
Registry using ERUNT the problem for me is an annoyance
rather than 'critical'.
Once more thanks to you and Bert for your kind advice.


"Gerry Cornell" wrote
System Restore will create Restore Points for each and
every drive / partition unless told otherwise. As
Restore Points essentially only contain information
relating to the windows system there is little point
creating Restore Points for drives / partitions only
containing programme files and or data files. The way you have
phrased your message infers that your
10 gb plus free space is spread across all drives /
partitions. However, only the free space on the
partition containing your Windows operating system will
be taken into account in determining whether it is
possible to create restore points. How large is the
partition containing the windows operating system and
how large is the free space on that partition. If I have deduced
the cause of your problem properly it
may be possible to resolve your problem by moving
folders / files to another partition. Where are your
temporary internet files and your My Documents located?
Also where is your Outlook Express store folder? How much drive
space is allocated to System Restore for
your windows partition -System Restore -Settings.

--


Hope this helps.

Gerry

"Edward W. Thompson" wrote
System Restore does not automatically create Restore
Points for me as the vent Log 'claims' I have
insufficient space. All partitions and drives have
10GB plus free space. Have tried reloading SR but have
not yet been able to solve the problem. Any
suggestions? I can create Restore Points manually, any
number on any day, but all but one are deleted after
24 hours presumeably by FIFO.

Hi Edward,

SR is doing exactly what it was designed to do when free disk space
reaches 50mb's. At 50mb's SR SR Suspends, and purges all restore
points. So there should be none.

Now what we need to do is track down what's using up all the free
space causing this to happen.

Use the frequency script to set the auto restore point time back to 24
hours. We know auto restore is working.

Download the "Print the list of available System Restore Points.vbs"
script from the following page and run it. It should show only the
restore points made today.
http://home.earthlink.net/~mvp_bert/html/srscripts.html

Check and make note of how much free disk space is available in the
C:\ partition.
Create another restore point and recheck the free disk space. How much
did is use.

When you say shut down at night, how is the system being shut down? Is
it by chance going into Suspend or Hibernate?


--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/


Edward W. Thompson wrote:
Hi Bert:

Your comprehensive suggestions are much appreciated. I
have followed your suggestions and the machine made
multiple Restore Points (every hour setting). The next
day, today, after the machine shut down for the night
there are no Restore Points, all have been deleted
overnight. This is typical of my problem. I can make
multiple restore poiints on day one but after an
overnight shutdown all are gone. Event Viewer/System
shows the following at about 1700h yesterday
"The System Restore service has been suspended because
there is not enough disk space available on the drive
\\?\Volume{92c3ffeb-0d3d-11d9-9650-806d6172696f}\. System
Restore will automatically resume service once at least
200 MB of free disk space is available on the system
drive".
At startup today in Event Viewer/System the following
shows
"The System Restore service has resumed monitoring due to
space freed on the system drive."

Only the partition on drive C is being monitoired by SR
and the free space on the drive is shown as 11.65GB. As
only the C: partition is monitored by SR I am assuming
the reference
\\?\Volume{92c3ffeb-0d3d-11d9-9650-806d6172696f}\.

relates to the C: partition although the designator \\?\
seems strange.
Any suggestions on how to solve this will be appreciated.

"Bert Kinney" wrote in message
...
Hi Edward,

Yes run the RestorePointFrequency.vbs script. Make sure
the frequency is set to no more than 24 hours.

If the Disk Cleanup utility is being used, make sure
clean up under System Restore is unchecked on the More
Options tab. Having this checked will remove all restore
points except the most recent one. Perform this test:
1. Confirm that Task Scheduler Service is running.
a. Click Start, click Run, and then type CMD then
press enter. b. Type Net Start at the command
prompt and press enter to make sure that the Task
Scheduler service is up and running. 2. Disable and re-enable
system restore to delete all
the restore points on the system.
3. Turn off SR on all partitions/drives other than the
one Windows is installed on.
4. Reduce the "Disk space usage" to just under 1GB.
5. Open My Computer and right click on the drive where
Windows is installed and SR is monitoring, then click
properties. Confirm that the free disk space is over
10gbs as noted earlier. In SR reduce the "Disk space usage" to just
under 1GB.
6. Turn off the screen saver, and adjust the power
management options so the system will not go into
standby or hibernate. 7. Use the RestorePointFrequency.vbs script
and set the
frequency to 1 hour. Leave the system unattended for 1
hour, then check SR for an automatic RP. Restore points
are only created during idle time; for example, when
there is no mouse, keyboard, or disk i/o activity. 8. Check the
event viewer to see if there are any events
denoting Restore points being purged.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/

Edward W. Thompson wrote:
My thanks to you and Bert for your replies.
Unfortunately I have tried all the methods suggested
without result. I run KAV and NOD32 as AVPs and
CWShredder, Spybot S&D, Ad Aware and SpyBlaster so I
think I have as much protection as is available against
'nasties, as there is. I have also run on line scanners
on the machine and as far as I can determine the the
machine is 'clean'. As far as actual free space is
concerned the 10GB plus free is the space free on
partition. I take your point re the need to create
restore points for partitions containing data and
program files.
I haven't have yet tried XPSystem
RestorePointFrequency.vbs but will do so.
This problem, while it seems rare is not unique. I have
seen two other references to the same problem but no
solution so far. As I create daily copies of the
Registry using ERUNT the problem for me is an annoyance
rather than 'critical'.
Once more thanks to you and Bert for your kind advice.


"Gerry Cornell" wrote
System Restore will create Restore Points for each and
every drive / partition unless told otherwise. As
Restore Points essentially only contain information
relating to the windows system there is little point
creating Restore Points for drives / partitions only
containing programme files and or data files. The way
you have phrased your message infers that your
10 gb plus free space is spread across all drives /
partitions. However, only the free space on the
partition containing your Windows operating system
will be taken into account in determining whether it is
possible to create restore points. How large is the
partition containing the windows operating system and
how large is the free space on that partition. If I
have deduced the cause of your problem properly it
may be possible to resolve your problem by moving
folders / files to another partition. Where are your
temporary internet files and your My Documents located?
Also where is your Outlook Express store folder? How
much drive space is allocated to System Restore for
your windows partition -System Restore -Settings.

--


Hope this helps.

Gerry

"Edward W. Thompson" wrote
System Restore does not automatically create Restore
Points for me as the vent Log 'claims' I have
insufficient space. All partitions and drives have
10GB plus free space. Have tried reloading SR but
have not yet been able to solve the problem. Any
suggestions? I can create Restore Points manually,
any number on any day, but all but one are deleted
after 24 hours presumeably by FIFO.

Hi Bert:

Not sure what you mean by SR doing what it is designed to do. I have over
10GB free space on C: partition so SR should not suspend operation. It
seems as if SR is misreading the available space.

Anyway, have done what you suggested and only one restore point was showing
after running "Print the list of available System Restore Points.vbs".

I then turned off System Restore, thus deleting all Restore Points,
rebooted, then turned on SR for C:, rebooted. A single SR was automatically
made and the free space on the partition (C shows as 11.50GB and space
available for SR 1799MB. I then created manually two other Restore Points,
each Restore Point decreased the free space on the drive by 0.04GB (40MB).
After each Restore Point I ran "Print the list of available System Restore
Points.vbs and the output showed each Restore Point created for a total of
three SRs. After three restore points the free space was 11.42GB.

With respect to my previous post, what I mean by shut down, I actually turn
the machine off.

I greatly appreciate your assistance in trying to solve this problem.

I have not 'snipped' the earlier posts as I think a full record of the steps
taken may assist others with a similar problem.

I re-examined 'Event Viewer' for yesterday and it again records that SR was
shut down due to insufficient space on
\\?\Volume{92c3ffeb-0d3d-11d9-9650-806d6172696f}\. Do you know how I check
what this refers to? I assume it must be the C: partition as this is the
only partition being monitored. I ran this through 'Find' in Regedit but
there is no record of this designator in the Registry.

"Bert Kinney" wrote in message
...
Hi Edward,

SR is doing exactly what it was designed to do when free disk space
reaches 50mb's. At 50mb's SR SR Suspends, and purges all restore points.
So there should be none.

Now what we need to do is track down what's using up all the free space
causing this to happen.

Use the frequency script to set the auto restore point time back to 24
hours. We know auto restore is working.

Download the "Print the list of available System Restore Points.vbs"
script from the following page and run it. It should show only the restore
points made today.
http://home.earthlink.net/~mvp_bert/html/srscripts.html

Check and make note of how much free disk space is available in the C:\
partition.
Create another restore point and recheck the free disk space. How much did
is use.

When you say shut down at night, how is the system being shut down? Is it
by chance going into Suspend or Hibernate?


--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/


Edward W. Thompson wrote:
Hi Bert:

Your comprehensive suggestions are much appreciated. I
have followed your suggestions and the machine made
multiple Restore Points (every hour setting). The next
day, today, after the machine shut down for the night
there are no Restore Points, all have been deleted
overnight. This is typical of my problem. I can make
multiple restore poiints on day one but after an
overnight shutdown all are gone. Event Viewer/System
shows the following at about 1700h yesterday
"The System Restore service has been suspended because
there is not enough disk space available on the drive
\\?\Volume{92c3ffeb-0d3d-11d9-9650-806d6172696f}\. System
Restore will automatically resume service once at least
200 MB of free disk space is available on the system
drive".
At startup today in Event Viewer/System the following
shows
"The System Restore service has resumed monitoring due to
space freed on the system drive."

Only the partition on drive C is being monitoired by SR
and the free space on the drive is shown as 11.65GB. As
only the C: partition is monitored by SR I am assuming
the reference
\\?\Volume{92c3ffeb-0d3d-11d9-9650-806d6172696f}\.

relates to the C: partition although the designator \\?\
seems strange.
Any suggestions on how to solve this will be appreciated.

"Bert Kinney" wrote in message
...
Hi Edward,

Yes run the RestorePointFrequency.vbs script. Make sure
the frequency is set to no more than 24 hours.

If the Disk Cleanup utility is being used, make sure
clean up under System Restore is unchecked on the More
Options tab. Having this checked will remove all restore
points except the most recent one. Perform this test:
1. Confirm that Task Scheduler Service is running.
a. Click Start, click Run, and then type CMD then
press enter. b. Type Net Start at the command
prompt and press enter to make sure that the Task
Scheduler service is up and running. 2. Disable and re-enable system
restore to delete all
the restore points on the system.
3. Turn off SR on all partitions/drives other than the
one Windows is installed on.
4. Reduce the "Disk space usage" to just under 1GB.
5. Open My Computer and right click on the drive where
Windows is installed and SR is monitoring, then click
properties. Confirm that the free disk space is over
10gbs as noted earlier. In SR reduce the "Disk space usage" to just
under 1GB.
6. Turn off the screen saver, and adjust the power
management options so the system will not go into
standby or hibernate. 7. Use the RestorePointFrequency.vbs script and
set the
frequency to 1 hour. Leave the system unattended for 1
hour, then check SR for an automatic RP. Restore points
are only created during idle time; for example, when
there is no mouse, keyboard, or disk i/o activity. 8. Check the event
viewer to see if there are any events
denoting Restore points being purged.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/

Edward W. Thompson wrote:
My thanks to you and Bert for your replies.
Unfortunately I have tried all the methods suggested
without result. I run KAV and NOD32 as AVPs and
CWShredder, Spybot S&D, Ad Aware and SpyBlaster so I
think I have as much protection as is available against
'nasties, as there is. I have also run on line scanners
on the machine and as far as I can determine the the
machine is 'clean'. As far as actual free space is
concerned the 10GB plus free is the space free on
partition. I take your point re the need to create
restore points for partitions containing data and
program files.
I haven't have yet tried XPSystem
RestorePointFrequency.vbs but will do so.
This problem, while it seems rare is not unique. I have
seen two other references to the same problem but no
solution so far. As I create daily copies of the
Registry using ERUNT the problem for me is an annoyance
rather than 'critical'.
Once more thanks to you and Bert for your kind advice.


"Gerry Cornell" wrote
System Restore will create Restore Points for each and
every drive / partition unless told otherwise. As
Restore Points essentially only contain information
relating to the windows system there is little point
creating Restore Points for drives / partitions only
containing programme files and or data files. The way
you have phrased your message infers that your
10 gb plus free space is spread across all drives /
partitions. However, only the free space on the
partition containing your Windows operating system
will be taken into account in determining whether it is
possible to create restore points. How large is the
partition containing the windows operating system and
how large is the free space on that partition. If I
have deduced the cause of your problem properly it
may be possible to resolve your problem by moving
folders / files to another partition. Where are your
temporary internet files and your My Documents located?
Also where is your Outlook Express store folder? How
much drive space is allocated to System Restore for
your windows partition -System Restore -Settings.

--


Hope this helps.

Gerry

"Edward W. Thompson" wrote
System Restore does not automatically create Restore
Points for me as the vent Log 'claims' I have
insufficient space. All partitions and drives have
10GB plus free space. Have tried reloading SR but
have not yet been able to solve the problem. Any
suggestions? I can create Restore Points manually,
any number on any day, but all but one are deleted
after 24 hours presumeably by FIFO.

Edward

"With respect to my previous post, what I mean by shut down, I actually
turn the machine off."
Are you using Start, Turn Off Computer, Turn Off OR pressing the button
on the computer. You should not be doing the latter as it prevents
necessary activities which occur when the computer is Shutdown.

You mention an error report in Event Viewer. Can you please provide the
Event ID no: and Source. How does the time date of the Event relate to
other things you are doing on the computer? Is it for example on StartUp
or Shutdown. Is another application starting immediately before the
System Restore Event?

Try Start, Run, type regedit, hit OK, select Edit, Find and search for
92c3ffeb-0d3d-11d9-9650-806d6172696f

Does it find anything? What appears on the status bar?

How many partitions on the hard drive? How were they created? Are you
using Norton Utilities?

--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
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"Edward W. Thompson" wrote in message
...
Hi Bert:

Not sure what you mean by SR doing what it is designed to do. I have
over 10GB free space on C: partition so SR should not suspend
operation. It seems as if SR is misreading the available space.

Anyway, have done what you suggested and only one restore point was
showing after running "Print the list of available System Restore
Points.vbs".

I then turned off System Restore, thus deleting all Restore Points,
rebooted, then turned on SR for C:, rebooted. A single SR was
automatically made and the free space on the partition (C shows as
11.50GB and space available for SR 1799MB. I then created manually
two other Restore Points, each Restore Point decreased the free space
on the drive by 0.04GB (40MB). After each Restore Point I ran "Print
the list of available System Restore Points.vbs and the output showed
each Restore Point created for a total of three SRs. After three
restore points the free space was 11.42GB.

With respect to my previous post, what I mean by shut down, I
actually turn the machine off.

I greatly appreciate your assistance in trying to solve this problem.

I have not 'snipped' the earlier posts as I think a full record of the
steps taken may assist others with a similar problem.

I re-examined 'Event Viewer' for yesterday and it again records that
SR was shut down due to insufficient space on
\\?\Volume{92c3ffeb-0d3d-11d9-9650-806d6172696f}\. Do you know how I
check what this refers to? I assume it must be the C: partition as
this is the only partition being monitored. I ran this through 'Find'
in Regedit but there is no record of this designator in the Registry.

"Bert Kinney" wrote in message
...
Hi Edward,

SR is doing exactly what it was designed to do when free disk space
reaches 50mb's. At 50mb's SR SR Suspends, and purges all restore
points. So there should be none.

Now what we need to do is track down what's using up all the free
space causing this to happen.

Use the frequency script to set the auto restore point time back to
24 hours. We know auto restore is working.

Download the "Print the list of available System Restore Points.vbs"
script from the following page and run it. It should show only the
restore points made today.
http://home.earthlink.net/~mvp_bert/html/srscripts.html

Check and make note of how much free disk space is available in the
C:\ partition.
Create another restore point and recheck the free disk space. How
much did is use.

When you say shut down at night, how is the system being shut down?
Is it by chance going into Suspend or Hibernate?


--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/


Edward W. Thompson wrote:
Hi Bert:

Your comprehensive suggestions are much appreciated. I
have followed your suggestions and the machine made
multiple Restore Points (every hour setting). The next
day, today, after the machine shut down for the night
there are no Restore Points, all have been deleted
overnight. This is typical of my problem. I can make
multiple restore poiints on day one but after an
overnight shutdown all are gone. Event Viewer/System
shows the following at about 1700h yesterday
"The System Restore service has been suspended because
there is not enough disk space available on the drive
\\?\Volume{92c3ffeb-0d3d-11d9-9650-806d6172696f}\. System
Restore will automatically resume service once at least
200 MB of free disk space is available on the system
drive".
At startup today in Event Viewer/System the following
shows
"The System Restore service has resumed monitoring due to
space freed on the system drive."

Only the partition on drive C is being monitoired by SR
and the free space on the drive is shown as 11.65GB. As
only the C: partition is monitored by SR I am assuming
the reference
\\?\Volume{92c3ffeb-0d3d-11d9-9650-806d6172696f}\.

relates to the C: partition although the designator \\?\
seems strange.
Any suggestions on how to solve this will be appreciated.

"Bert Kinney" wrote in message
...
Hi Edward,

Yes run the RestorePointFrequency.vbs script. Make sure
the frequency is set to no more than 24 hours.

If the Disk Cleanup utility is being used, make sure
clean up under System Restore is unchecked on the More
Options tab. Having this checked will remove all restore
points except the most recent one. Perform this test:
1. Confirm that Task Scheduler Service is running.
a. Click Start, click Run, and then type CMD then
press enter. b. Type Net Start at the command
prompt and press enter to make sure that the Task
Scheduler service is up and running. 2. Disable and re-enable
system restore to delete all
the restore points on the system.
3. Turn off SR on all partitions/drives other than the
one Windows is installed on.
4. Reduce the "Disk space usage" to just under 1GB.
5. Open My Computer and right click on the drive where
Windows is installed and SR is monitoring, then click
properties. Confirm that the free disk space is over
10gbs as noted earlier. In SR reduce the "Disk space usage" to just
under 1GB.
6. Turn off the screen saver, and adjust the power
management options so the system will not go into
standby or hibernate. 7. Use the RestorePointFrequency.vbs script
and set the
frequency to 1 hour. Leave the system unattended for 1
hour, then check SR for an automatic RP. Restore points
are only created during idle time; for example, when
there is no mouse, keyboard, or disk i/o activity. 8. Check the
event viewer to see if there are any events
denoting Restore points being purged.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/

Edward W. Thompson wrote:
My thanks to you and Bert for your replies.
Unfortunately I have tried all the methods suggested
without result. I run KAV and NOD32 as AVPs and
CWShredder, Spybot S&D, Ad Aware and SpyBlaster so I
think I have as much protection as is available against
'nasties, as there is. I have also run on line scanners
on the machine and as far as I can determine the the
machine is 'clean'. As far as actual free space is
concerned the 10GB plus free is the space free on
partition. I take your point re the need to create
restore points for partitions containing data and
program files.
I haven't have yet tried XPSystem
RestorePointFrequency.vbs but will do so.
This problem, while it seems rare is not unique. I have
seen two other references to the same problem but no
solution so far. As I create daily copies of the
Registry using ERUNT the problem for me is an annoyance
rather than 'critical'.
Once more thanks to you and Bert for your kind advice.


"Gerry Cornell" wrote
System Restore will create Restore Points for each and
every drive / partition unless told otherwise. As
Restore Points essentially only contain information
relating to the windows system there is little point
creating Restore Points for drives / partitions only
containing programme files and or data files. The way
you have phrased your message infers that your
10 gb plus free space is spread across all drives /
partitions. However, only the free space on the
partition containing your Windows operating system
will be taken into account in determining whether it is
possible to create restore points. How large is the
partition containing the windows operating system and
how large is the free space on that partition. If I
have deduced the cause of your problem properly it
may be possible to resolve your problem by moving
folders / files to another partition. Where are your
temporary internet files and your My Documents located?
Also where is your Outlook Express store folder? How
much drive space is allocated to System Restore for
your windows partition -System Restore -Settings.

--


Hope this helps.

Gerry

"Edward W. Thompson" wrote
System Restore does not automatically create Restore
Points for me as the vent Log 'claims' I have
insufficient space. All partitions and drives have
10GB plus free space. Have tried reloading SR but
have not yet been able to solve the problem. Any
suggestions? I can create Restore Points manually,
any number on any day, but all but one are deleted
after 24 hours presumeably by FIFO.

Hi Edward,

Run the srdiag.exe tool to create a Cab containing the System Restore
files in text format so we can take a look.
1. Click Start, click Run.
2. Type or paste the following: "%windir%\system32\restore\srdiag.exe"
(without the quotation marks) and either press Enter or click OK.
3. A CMD window will open while the Srdiag.exe runs. The CMD session
will automatically close when complete, and the .CAB file will be
created as desired in your 'Windows\system32\restore' folder. Please
be patient as this could take a couple of minutes.
4. Zip a copy and send it to me at (remove the NS) so
I can take a look.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/


Edward W. Thompson wrote:
Hi Bert:

Not sure what you mean by SR doing what it is designed to
do. I have over 10GB free space on C: partition so SR
should not suspend operation. It seems as if SR is
misreading the available space.
Anyway, have done what you suggested and only one
restore point was showing after running "Print the list
of available System Restore Points.vbs".
I then turned off System Restore, thus deleting all
Restore Points, rebooted, then turned on SR for C:,
rebooted. A single SR was automatically made and the
free space on the partition (C shows as 11.50GB and
space available for SR 1799MB. I then created manually
two other Restore Points, each Restore Point decreased
the free space on the drive by 0.04GB (40MB). After each
Restore Point I ran "Print the list of available System
Restore Points.vbs and the output showed each Restore
Point created for a total of three SRs. After three
restore points the free space was 11.42GB.
With respect to my previous post, what I mean by shut
down, I actually turn the machine off.

I greatly appreciate your assistance in trying to solve
this problem.
I have not 'snipped' the earlier posts as I think a full
record of the steps taken may assist others with a
similar problem.
I re-examined 'Event Viewer' for yesterday and it again
records that SR was shut down due to insufficient space on
\\?\Volume{92c3ffeb-0d3d-11d9-9650-806d6172696f}\. Do
you know how I check what this refers to? I assume it
must be the C: partition as this is the only partition
being monitored. I ran this through 'Find' in Regedit
but there is no record of this designator in the
Registry.
"Bert Kinney" wrote in message
...
Hi Edward,

SR is doing exactly what it was designed to do when free
disk space reaches 50mb's. At 50mb's SR SR Suspends, and
purges all restore points. So there should be none.

Now what we need to do is track down what's using up all
the free space causing this to happen.

Use the frequency script to set the auto restore point
time back to 24 hours. We know auto restore is working.

Download the "Print the list of available System Restore
Points.vbs" script from the following page and run it.
It should show only the restore points made today.
http://home.earthlink.net/~mvp_bert/html/srscripts.html

Check and make note of how much free disk space is
available in the C:\ partition.
Create another restore point and recheck the free disk
space. How much did is use.

When you say shut down at night, how is the system being
shut down? Is it by chance going into Suspend or
Hibernate? --
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/


Edward W. Thompson wrote:
Hi Bert:

Your comprehensive suggestions are much appreciated. I
have followed your suggestions and the machine made
multiple Restore Points (every hour setting). The next
day, today, after the machine shut down for the night
there are no Restore Points, all have been deleted
overnight. This is typical of my problem. I can make
multiple restore poiints on day one but after an
overnight shutdown all are gone. Event Viewer/System
shows the following at about 1700h yesterday
"The System Restore service has been suspended because
there is not enough disk space available on the drive
\\?\Volume{92c3ffeb-0d3d-11d9-9650-806d6172696f}\.
System Restore will automatically resume service once
at least 200 MB of free disk space is available on the
system drive".
At startup today in Event Viewer/System the following
shows
"The System Restore service has resumed monitoring due
to space freed on the system drive."

Only the partition on drive C is being monitoired by SR
and the free space on the drive is shown as 11.65GB. As
only the C: partition is monitored by SR I am assuming
the reference
\\?\Volume{92c3ffeb-0d3d-11d9-9650-806d6172696f}\.

relates to the C: partition although the designator \\?\
seems strange.
Any suggestions on how to solve this will be
appreciated. "Bert Kinney" wrote in message
...
Hi Edward,

Yes run the RestorePointFrequency.vbs script. Make sure
the frequency is set to no more than 24 hours.

If the Disk Cleanup utility is being used, make sure
clean up under System Restore is unchecked on the More
Options tab. Having this checked will remove all
restore points except the most recent one. Perform this test:
1. Confirm that Task Scheduler Service is running.
a. Click Start, click Run, and then type CMD then
press enter. b. Type Net Start at the command
prompt and press enter to make sure that the Task
Scheduler service is up and running. 2. Disable and
re-enable system restore to delete all
the restore points on the system.
3. Turn off SR on all partitions/drives other than the
one Windows is installed on.
4. Reduce the "Disk space usage" to just under 1GB.
5. Open My Computer and right click on the drive where
Windows is installed and SR is monitoring, then click
properties. Confirm that the free disk space is over
10gbs as noted earlier. In SR reduce the "Disk space
usage" to just under 1GB.
6. Turn off the screen saver, and adjust the power
management options so the system will not go into
standby or hibernate. 7. Use the
RestorePointFrequency.vbs script and set the
frequency to 1 hour. Leave the system unattended for 1
hour, then check SR for an automatic RP. Restore points
are only created during idle time; for example, when
there is no mouse, keyboard, or disk i/o activity. 8.
Check the event viewer to see if there are any events
denoting Restore points being purged.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/

Edward W. Thompson wrote:
My thanks to you and Bert for your replies.
Unfortunately I have tried all the methods suggested
without result. I run KAV and NOD32 as AVPs and
CWShredder, Spybot S&D, Ad Aware and SpyBlaster so I
think I have as much protection as is available
against 'nasties, as there is. I have also run on
line scanners on the machine and as far as I can
determine the the machine is 'clean'. As far as
actual free space is concerned the 10GB plus free is
the space free on partition. I take your point re
the need to create restore points for partitions
containing data and program files.
I haven't have yet tried XPSystem
RestorePointFrequency.vbs but will do so.
This problem, while it seems rare is not unique. I
have seen two other references to the same problem
but no solution so far. As I create daily copies of
the Registry using ERUNT the problem for me is an
annoyance rather than 'critical'.
Once more thanks to you and Bert for your kind advice.


"Gerry Cornell" wrote
System Restore will create Restore Points for each
and every drive / partition unless told otherwise. As
Restore Points essentially only contain information
relating to the windows system there is little point
creating Restore Points for drives / partitions only
containing programme files and or data files. The way
you have phrased your message infers that your
10 gb plus free space is spread across all drives /
partitions. However, only the free space on the
partition containing your Windows operating system
will be taken into account in determining whether it
is possible to create restore points. How large is
the partition containing the windows operating
system and how large is the free space on that
partition. If I have deduced the cause of your
problem properly it may be possible to resolve your problem by
moving
folders / files to another partition. Where are your
temporary internet files and your My Documents
located? Also where is your Outlook Express store
folder? How much drive space is allocated to System
Restore for your windows partition -System Restore
-Settings. --


Hope this helps.

Gerry

"Edward W. Thompson" wrote
System Restore does not automatically create Restore
Points for me as the vent Log 'claims' I have
insufficient space. All partitions and drives have
10GB plus free space. Have tried reloading SR but
have not yet been able to solve the problem. Any
suggestions? I can create Restore Points manually,
any number on any day, but all but one are deleted
after 24 hours presumeably by FIFO.