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Disposing of a hard drive.
On 16/06/2018 01:11, mick wrote:
On 16/06/2018 00:23:55, Bill Ward wrote: On 15/06/2018 19:40, Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 06/15/2018 1:22 PM, Bill Ward wrote: On 15/06/2018 19:02, Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 06/15/2018 12:28 PM, Mayayana wrote: "Bill Ward" wrote Most hard drives seem quite indestructible. What is the best method of | disposal ? I do live on the coast with some 500ft high cliffs nearby. | Bill. ** Open it up. You'll find that the actual disks are very brittle and shatter into *lots* of pieces. You could probably also achieve that by just bending it a bit in a vice. PS - Watch out for tiny shards. They can be very sharp. It's best to contain the destruction. I take them apart to salvage the very powerful magnets They come in handy and they are super strong. Rene I've never managed to take one apart. Is there a Youtube video for it? Bill. Mostly all you need is a set of small Torx screw drivers, Remove cover than all visible screws. Rene I've got that far in the past but never felt that I had damaged them enough to stop clever people getting data from them from stories I've read. Bill. Just take the platters out, score them with a screwdriver, sand paper them, put them in a bag and hammer them into bits, bury the bits all over the garden.* By the time someone has found all the bits, re-assembled them and tried to get the info you will be long gone and past worrying. :-) At my age that may not be too long:-) Bill. |
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On 16/06/2018 05:42, NotMe wrote:
On 6/15/2018 7:11 PM, mick wrote: On 16/06/2018 00:23:55, Bill Ward wrote: On 15/06/2018 19:40, Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 06/15/2018 1:22 PM, Bill Ward wrote: On 15/06/2018 19:02, Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 06/15/2018 12:28 PM, Mayayana wrote: "Bill Ward" wrote Most hard drives seem quite indestructible. What is the best method of | disposal ? I do live on the coast with some 500ft high cliffs nearby. | Bill. ** Open it up. You'll find that the actual disks are very brittle and shatter into *lots* of pieces. You could probably also achieve that by just bending it a bit in a vice. PS - Watch out for tiny shards. They can be very sharp. It's best to contain the destruction. I take them apart to salvage the very powerful magnets They come in handy and they are super strong. Rene I've never managed to take one apart. Is there a Youtube video for it? Bill. Mostly all you need is a set of small Torx screw drivers, Remove cover than all visible screws. Rene I've got that far in the past but never felt that I had damaged them enough to stop clever people getting data from them from stories I've read. Bill. Just take the platters out, score them with a screwdriver, sand paper them, put them in a bag and hammer them into bits, bury the bits all over the garden.* By the time someone has found all the bits, re-assembled them and tried to get the info you will be long gone and past worrying. :-) All the screws are not visible, some are hidden under labels and stickers. Takes about ten minutes to completely dissemble, worth it for the magnets. The magnets must be buried so deep as not to attract anything. Bill. |
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On 06/16/2018 6:24 PM, Bill Ward wrote:
On 16/06/2018 01:11, mick wrote: On 16/06/2018 00:23:55, Bill Ward wrote: On 15/06/2018 19:40, Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 06/15/2018 1:22 PM, Bill Ward wrote: On 15/06/2018 19:02, Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 06/15/2018 12:28 PM, Mayayana wrote: "Bill Ward" wrote Most hard drives seem quite indestructible. What is the best method of | disposal ? I do live on the coast with some 500ft high cliffs nearby. | Bill. ** Open it up. You'll find that the actual disks are very brittle and shatter into *lots* of pieces. You could probably also achieve that by just bending it a bit in a vice. PS - Watch out for tiny shards. They can be very sharp. It's best to contain the destruction. I take them apart to salvage the very powerful magnets They come in handy and they are super strong. Rene I've never managed to take one apart. Is there a Youtube video for it? Bill. Mostly all you need is a set of small Torx screw drivers, Remove cover than all visible screws. Rene I've got that far in the past but never felt that I had damaged them enough to stop clever people getting data from them from stories I've read. Bill. Just take the platters out, score them with a screwdriver, sand paper them, put them in a bag and hammer them into bits, bury the bits all over the garden.* By the time someone has found all the bits, re-assembled them and tried to get the info you will be long gone and past worrying. :-) At my age that may not be too long :-) Bill. I haven't had a bad HD in 15 or 18 years, so haven't had the pleasure of dismantling one in a long time. :-) Rene |
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On 16/06/2018 17:06, hah wrote:
On 06/15/2018 07:11 PM, mick wrote: [snip] Just take the platters out, score them with a screwdriver, sand paper them, put them in a bag and hammer them into bits, bury the bits all over the garden. You might even put a few bits in other peoples' gardens. By the time someone has found all the bits, re-assembled them and tried to get the info you will be long gone and past worrying. :-) "long gone and past worrying". Was there poison gas in that hard drive? :-) Where I first lived in London my landlady used to pick her best roses seal them in a tin box and bury it in her garden and retrieve them at Christmas. As she died in late summer there must have been a box there. I've looked at the end of terrace corner house now worth over a million and an extension covers most of the garden. Bill. |
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On 16/06/2018 20:39, Paul wrote:
Mark Lloyd wrote: On 06/15/2018 01:22 PM, Bill Ward wrote: [snip] I've never managed to take one apart. Is there a Youtube video for it? Bill. I've never needed a video to remove a few screws, especially from something that wasn't going to be reassembled afterward. You'll need a video to get the Helium ones open. And a can opener. The lid is laser-welded to make it gas-tight. Â*Â* Paul There was an article the other week that the younger generation are unable to open a Fray Bentos tin of steak pie and it has had to be redesigned. Bill. |
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On 17/06/2018 00:31, Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-06-16 19:28, Bill Ward wrote: On 16/06/2018 05:42, NotMe wrote: [...] All the screws are not visible, some are hidden under labels and stickers. Takes about ten minutes to completely dissemble, worth it for the magnets. The magnets must be buried so deep as not to attract anything. Bill. Shielded by the steel case. Right. Bill. |
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On 17/06/2018 00:32, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 06/16/2018 6:24 PM, Bill Ward wrote: On 16/06/2018 01:11, mick wrote: On 16/06/2018 00:23:55, Bill Ward wrote: On 15/06/2018 19:40, Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 06/15/2018 1:22 PM, Bill Ward wrote: On 15/06/2018 19:02, Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 06/15/2018 12:28 PM, Mayayana wrote: "Bill Ward" wrote Most hard drives seem quite indestructible. What is the best method of | disposal ? I do live on the coast with some 500ft high cliffs nearby. | Bill. ** Open it up. You'll find that the actual disks are very brittle and shatter into *lots* of pieces. You could probably also achieve that by just bending it a bit in a vice. PS - Watch out for tiny shards. They can be very sharp. It's best to contain the destruction. I take them apart to salvage the very powerful magnets They come in handy and they are super strong. Rene I've never managed to take one apart. Is there a Youtube video for it? Bill. Mostly all you need is a set of small Torx screw drivers, Remove cover than all visible screws. Rene I've got that far in the past but never felt that I had damaged them enough to stop clever people getting data from them from stories I've read. Bill. Just take the platters out, score them with a screwdriver, sand paper them, put them in a bag and hammer them into bits, bury the bits all over the garden.* By the time someone has found all the bits, re-assembled them and tried to get the info you will be long gone and past worrying. :-) At my age that may not be too long :-) Bill. I haven't had a bad HD in 15 or 18 years, so haven't had the pleasure of dismantling one in a long time. :-) Rene Like eggs you don't often get a bad one. What is the main reason disks fail? Bill. |
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On 16/06/2018 02:55, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
Ant wrote: Bill Ward wrote: Most hard drives seem quite indestructible. What is the best method of disposal ? I do live on the coast with some 500ft high cliffs nearby. Bill. Throw it into a volcano. :P We have a local (NJ) recycling company that has a shredder which will shred your drive into small pieces so it is completely unusable. They charge $5 per drive and you can stand there a watch them do it. That's a good deal. Do they burn your old money a well ? Bill. |
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On 16/06/2018 02:55, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
Ant wrote: Bill Ward wrote: Most hard drives seem quite indestructible. What is the best method of disposal ? I do live on the coast with some 500ft high cliffs nearby. Bill. Throw it into a volcano. :P We have a local (NJ) recycling company that has a shredder which will shred your drive into small pieces so it is completely unusable. They charge $5 per drive and you can stand there a watch them do it. Did they dispose of Jimmy Hoffa as well ? Some kidnappers here once fed the victims body to pigs. Bill. |
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On 06/16/2018 6:45 PM, Bill Ward wrote:
On 17/06/2018 00:31, Wolf K wrote: On 2018-06-16 19:28, Bill Ward wrote: On 16/06/2018 05:42, NotMe wrote: [...] All the screws are not visible, some are hidden under labels and stickers. Takes about ten minutes to completely dissemble, worth it for the magnets. The magnets must be buried so deep as not to attract anything. Bill. Shielded by the steel case. Right. Bill. The 2 magnets, 1 on each side of the voice coil are glued to the 2 mounting brackets which are made of Mu-Metal which is a magnetic shielding material. Rene |
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Bill Ward wrote:
On 16/06/2018 20:39, Paul wrote: Mark Lloyd wrote: On 06/15/2018 01:22 PM, Bill Ward wrote: [snip] I've never managed to take one apart. Is there a Youtube video for it? Bill. I've never needed a video to remove a few screws, especially from something that wasn't going to be reassembled afterward. You'll need a video to get the Helium ones open. And a can opener. The lid is laser-welded to make it gas-tight. Paul There was an article the other week that the younger generation are unable to open a Fray Bentos tin of steak pie and it has had to be redesigned. Bill. I thought you just swallowed those whole ? I see in a news site article, the secret is: "we have concluded that the cans require a robust 'cut from the top' opener rather than a 'cut from the side' opener. " It's a good thing when I was born, each of us was given a "cut from the top" opener, in an effort to avoid starvation. This is the one you want, because it has a bit of mechanical advantage. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Amco-407-...orted/15204013 Electric can openers are so 1960's. Even when the power goes off... I can eat. I even have two different camp stoves and fuel, for those "special eating moments". I don't know though, how well a steak pie would do on a camp stove. I suppose a microwave burrito wouldn't be too happy either. (One of the guys at work swore those were "excellent for breakfast".) Paul |
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Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 06/16/2018 6:45 PM, Bill Ward wrote: On 17/06/2018 00:31, Wolf K wrote: On 2018-06-16 19:28, Bill Ward wrote: On 16/06/2018 05:42, NotMe wrote: [...] All the screws are not visible, some are hidden under labels and stickers. Takes about ten minutes to completely dissemble, worth it for the magnets. The magnets must be buried so deep as not to attract anything. Bill. Shielded by the steel case. Right. Bill. The 2 magnets, 1 on each side of the voice coil are glued to the 2 mounting brackets which are made of Mu-Metal which is a magnetic shielding material. Rene Another name for the function, might be "flux concentrator". If it was Mu Metal, it would cost a fortune. Compared to some other, less ideal materials. Paul |
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Paul wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 06/16/2018 6:45 PM, Bill Ward wrote: On 17/06/2018 00:31, Wolf K wrote: On 2018-06-16 19:28, Bill Ward wrote: On 16/06/2018 05:42, NotMe wrote: [...] All the screws are not visible, some are hidden under labels and stickers. Takes about ten minutes to completely dissemble, worth it for the magnets. The magnets must be buried so deep as not to attract anything. Bill. Shielded by the steel case. Right. Bill. The 2 magnets, 1 on each side of the voice coil are glued to the 2 mounting brackets which are made of Mu-Metal which is a magnetic shielding material. Rene Another name for the function, might be "flux concentrator". If it was Mu Metal, it would cost a fortune. Compared to some other, less ideal materials. Paul The keeper is nickel-plated iron. I suppose the nickel plating is there, to prevent "shedding" inside the super-clean environment. You can't have the iron bits rusting in there. http://rack1.ul.cs.cmu.edu/rotaryvoicecoil/ Paul |
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On 06/16/2018 8:17 PM, Paul wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 06/16/2018 6:45 PM, Bill Ward wrote: On 17/06/2018 00:31, Wolf K wrote: On 2018-06-16 19:28, Bill Ward wrote: On 16/06/2018 05:42, NotMe wrote: [...] All the screws are not visible, some are hidden under labels and stickers. Takes about ten minutes to completely dissemble, worth it for the magnets. The magnets must be buried so deep as not to attract anything. Bill. Shielded by the steel case. Right. Bill. The 2 magnets, 1 on each side of the voice coil are glued to the 2 mounting brackets which are made of Mu-Metal which is a magnetic shielding material. Rene Another name for the function, might be "flux concentrator". If it was Mu Metal, it would cost a fortune. Compared to some other, less ideal materials. ** Paul Well I don't know about nowadays, but it was used for that purpose some years back, I suppose they have come up with cheaper materials over the years, I also remember Mu-Metal shields around the CRTs of our analog oscilloscopes back in the 60s. Rene |
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