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Need help Installing Windows XP !!!
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I have a small question regarding the installation of my new Windows XP Operating System. First, let me give an overview of what I have on my system currently. Currently, I have 2 Hard Drives on my PC. One is 120GB and the other is 40 GB. On this 120GB Hard Drive, I have Windows 98. And I use this 40 GB Hard Drive as an addditional drive. And both the drives are using the FAT32 file system. Now I got the upgrade version of Windows XP. What I want to do is to convert this 40GB Hard Drive to NTFS File System and install Windows XP on this drive and use this 120GB (which is currently FAT32 and have Windows 98)Hard Drive as an additional drive. I primarily want to use Windows XP on my system. Now the question is... Can this NTFS 40GB Hard Drive running Windows XP recognises this FAT32 Hard Drive and vice versa ? Can I transfer the data back and forth between both the drives ? Are there any compatibility issues ? My plan is, once I setup Windows XP on this NTFS 40GB Hard Drive, I will slowly transfer files from this FAT32 120GB Hard Drive to this NTFS 40GB Hard Drive and once I am done copying all the files to this 40GB Hard Drive, I will reformat this 120GB Hard Drive to NTFS File System. So is it possible to have that transition time ? OR am I better off with the FAT32 File System on both the Hard Drives ? If someone please help me with this problem, I really appreciate. Will be waiting for your responses. If you need further information, please contact me. Thank you very much. Ram. |
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ram,
if you are going to convert the 40 gig drive (which i think would be drive d, unless the 120 gig drive is partitioned) to ntfs, you can only access this drive when you are using windows xp. with win xp, you can have access to fat, fat16, fat32, and ntfs drives. with win98 you can only have to fat, fat16, and fat32. however, if you are concerned about security, such that, you don't want other people to access your files and folders, then ntfs is the answer. tip: it would be better if you could make the 40gig drive your drive c, install windows and all applications there. make the 120 gig drive your data drive as it is always assumed that data takes more space than the operating system and application files. i hope that helps you a bit. -- Regards, Dennis Lazo the email address from where this message has been sent from is unmonitored. e-mails may be sent at http://dennislazo.com/email/. information herein is provided as is with no warranties, and confers no rights. "Ram" wrote in message ... Hi Guys I have a small question regarding the installation of my new Windows XP Operating System. First, let me give an overview of what I have on my system currently. Currently, I have 2 Hard Drives on my PC. One is 120GB and the other is 40 GB. On this 120GB Hard Drive, I have Windows 98. And I use this 40 GB Hard Drive as an addditional drive. And both the drives are using the FAT32 file system. Now I got the upgrade version of Windows XP. What I want to do is to convert this 40GB Hard Drive to NTFS File System and install Windows XP on this drive and use this 120GB (which is currently FAT32 and have Windows 98)Hard Drive as an additional drive. I primarily want to use Windows XP on my system. Now the question is... Can this NTFS 40GB Hard Drive running Windows XP recognises this FAT32 Hard Drive and vice versa ? Can I transfer the data back and forth between both the drives ? Are there any compatibility issues ? My plan is, once I setup Windows XP on this NTFS 40GB Hard Drive, I will slowly transfer files from this FAT32 120GB Hard Drive to this NTFS 40GB Hard Drive and once I am done copying all the files to this 40GB Hard Drive, I will reformat this 120GB Hard Drive to NTFS File System. So is it possible to have that transition time ? OR am I better off with the FAT32 File System on both the Hard Drives ? If someone please help me with this problem, I really appreciate. Will be waiting for your responses. If you need further information, please contact me. Thank you very much. Ram. |
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-----Original Message----- ram, if you are going to convert the 40 gig drive (which i think would be drive d, unless the 120 gig drive is partitioned) to ntfs, you can only access this drive when you are using windows xp. with win xp, you can have access to fat, fat16, fat32, and ntfs drives. with win98 you can only have to fat, fat16, and fat32. however, if you are concerned about security, such that, you don't want other people to access your files and folders, then ntfs is the answer. tip: it would be better if you could make the 40gig drive your drive c, install windows and all applications there. make the 120 gig drive your data drive as it is always assumed that data takes more space than the operating system and application files. This is exactly what I want to do. In this case, do I need to convert this 120 gig drive to NTFS ? OR can I just leave it just like it was (FAT32) ? Thank you very much for your quick reply. Ram i hope that helps you a bit. -- Regards, Dennis Lazo the email address from where this message has been sent from is unmonitored. e-mails may be sent at http://dennislazo.com/email/. information herein is provided as is with no warranties, and confers no rights. "Ram" wrote in message ... Hi Guys I have a small question regarding the installation of my new Windows XP Operating System. First, let me give an overview of what I have on my system currently. Currently, I have 2 Hard Drives on my PC. One is 120GB and the other is 40 GB. On this 120GB Hard Drive, I have Windows 98. And I use this 40 GB Hard Drive as an addditional drive. And both the drives are using the FAT32 file system. Now I got the upgrade version of Windows XP. What I want to do is to convert this 40GB Hard Drive to NTFS File System and install Windows XP on this drive and use this 120GB (which is currently FAT32 and have Windows 98)Hard Drive as an additional drive. I primarily want to use Windows XP on my system. Now the question is... Can this NTFS 40GB Hard Drive running Windows XP recognises this FAT32 Hard Drive and vice versa ? Can I transfer the data back and forth between both the drives ? Are there any compatibility issues ? My plan is, once I setup Windows XP on this NTFS 40GB Hard Drive, I will slowly transfer files from this FAT32 120GB Hard Drive to this NTFS 40GB Hard Drive and once I am done copying all the files to this 40GB Hard Drive, I will reformat this 120GB Hard Drive to NTFS File System. So is it possible to have that transition time ? OR am I better off with the FAT32 File System on both the Hard Drives ? If someone please help me with this problem, I really appreciate. Will be waiting for your responses. If you need further information, please contact me. Thank you very much. Ram. . |
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ram,
if you plan to just discard win98 completely, go ahead and install winxp on your 40 gig drive as ntfs. anyways, i believe that your data is already in the 120 gig drive. just make your 40 gig drive your drive c, install windows, make it as ntfs and you still would have access to your 120 gig drive using ntfs. if you plan to use win98 still, then install winxp on the 40 gig drive using fat32. win98 cannot access ntfs drives. hope this helps again. -- Regards, Dennis Lazo the email address from where this message has been sent from is unmonitored. e-mails may be sent at http://dennislazo.com/email/. information herein is provided as is with no warranties, and confers no rights. "Ram" wrote in message ... -----Original Message----- ram, if you are going to convert the 40 gig drive (which i think would be drive d, unless the 120 gig drive is partitioned) to ntfs, you can only access this drive when you are using windows xp. with win xp, you can have access to fat, fat16, fat32, and ntfs drives. with win98 you can only have to fat, fat16, and fat32. however, if you are concerned about security, such that, you don't want other people to access your files and folders, then ntfs is the answer. tip: it would be better if you could make the 40gig drive your drive c, install windows and all applications there. make the 120 gig drive your data drive as it is always assumed that data takes more space than the operating system and application files. This is exactly what I want to do. In this case, do I need to convert this 120 gig drive to NTFS ? OR can I just leave it just like it was (FAT32) ? Thank you very much for your quick reply. Ram i hope that helps you a bit. -- Regards, Dennis Lazo the email address from where this message has been sent from is unmonitored. e-mails may be sent at http://dennislazo.com/email/. information herein is provided as is with no warranties, and confers no rights. "Ram" wrote in message ... Hi Guys I have a small question regarding the installation of my new Windows XP Operating System. First, let me give an overview of what I have on my system currently. Currently, I have 2 Hard Drives on my PC. One is 120GB and the other is 40 GB. On this 120GB Hard Drive, I have Windows 98. And I use this 40 GB Hard Drive as an addditional drive. And both the drives are using the FAT32 file system. Now I got the upgrade version of Windows XP. What I want to do is to convert this 40GB Hard Drive to NTFS File System and install Windows XP on this drive and use this 120GB (which is currently FAT32 and have Windows 98)Hard Drive as an additional drive. I primarily want to use Windows XP on my system. Now the question is... Can this NTFS 40GB Hard Drive running Windows XP recognises this FAT32 Hard Drive and vice versa ? Can I transfer the data back and forth between both the drives ? Are there any compatibility issues ? My plan is, once I setup Windows XP on this NTFS 40GB Hard Drive, I will slowly transfer files from this FAT32 120GB Hard Drive to this NTFS 40GB Hard Drive and once I am done copying all the files to this 40GB Hard Drive, I will reformat this 120GB Hard Drive to NTFS File System. So is it possible to have that transition time ? OR am I better off with the FAT32 File System on both the Hard Drives ? If someone please help me with this problem, I really appreciate. Will be waiting for your responses. If you need further information, please contact me. Thank you very much. Ram. . |
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Ram an ntfs file system can 'see' a fat32 file system, but a fat32 file
system cannot see an ntfs file system. So, basically you can transfer data from your windows xp ntfs partition to your windows 98 fat32 file system but you cannot transfer files from win 98 fat 32 to win xp ntfs. A little complex I know but that's how things work I'm afraid. It is basically the same if you use a Dos windows 98 start-up disk. The start-up disk will read the windows 98 partition but not the windows xp partition. -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert www.freelanceit.glowinternet.net "Ram" wrote in message ... Hi Guys I have a small question regarding the installation of my new Windows XP Operating System. First, let me give an overview of what I have on my system currently. Currently, I have 2 Hard Drives on my PC. One is 120GB and the other is 40 GB. On this 120GB Hard Drive, I have Windows 98. And I use this 40 GB Hard Drive as an addditional drive. And both the drives are using the FAT32 file system. Now I got the upgrade version of Windows XP. What I want to do is to convert this 40GB Hard Drive to NTFS File System and install Windows XP on this drive and use this 120GB (which is currently FAT32 and have Windows 98)Hard Drive as an additional drive. I primarily want to use Windows XP on my system. Now the question is... Can this NTFS 40GB Hard Drive running Windows XP recognises this FAT32 Hard Drive and vice versa ? Can I transfer the data back and forth between both the drives ? Are there any compatibility issues ? My plan is, once I setup Windows XP on this NTFS 40GB Hard Drive, I will slowly transfer files from this FAT32 120GB Hard Drive to this NTFS 40GB Hard Drive and once I am done copying all the files to this 40GB Hard Drive, I will reformat this 120GB Hard Drive to NTFS File System. So is it possible to have that transition time ? OR am I better off with the FAT32 File System on both the Hard Drives ? If someone please help me with this problem, I really appreciate. Will be waiting for your responses. If you need further information, please contact me. Thank you very much. Ram. |
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correction: second paragraph should read:
just make your 40 gig drive your drive c, install windows, make it as ntfs and you still would have access to your 120 gig drive using fat32. additional note: after installing winxp, you can convert fat32 drives to ntfs. but you will need a third party application to convert ntfs drives to fat32. "Dennis Lazo" wrote in message ... ram, if you plan to just discard win98 completely, go ahead and install winxp on your 40 gig drive as ntfs. anyways, i believe that your data is already in the 120 gig drive. just make your 40 gig drive your drive c, install windows, make it as ntfs and you still would have access to your 120 gig drive using ntfs. if you plan to use win98 still, then install winxp on the 40 gig drive using fat32. win98 cannot access ntfs drives. hope this helps again. -- Regards, Dennis Lazo the email address from where this message has been sent from is unmonitored. e-mails may be sent at http://dennislazo.com/email/. information herein is provided as is with no warranties, and confers no rights. "Ram" wrote in message ... -----Original Message----- ram, if you are going to convert the 40 gig drive (which i think would be drive d, unless the 120 gig drive is partitioned) to ntfs, you can only access this drive when you are using windows xp. with win xp, you can have access to fat, fat16, fat32, and ntfs drives. with win98 you can only have to fat, fat16, and fat32. however, if you are concerned about security, such that, you don't want other people to access your files and folders, then ntfs is the answer. tip: it would be better if you could make the 40gig drive your drive c, install windows and all applications there. make the 120 gig drive your data drive as it is always assumed that data takes more space than the operating system and application files. This is exactly what I want to do. In this case, do I need to convert this 120 gig drive to NTFS ? OR can I just leave it just like it was (FAT32) ? Thank you very much for your quick reply. Ram i hope that helps you a bit. -- Regards, Dennis Lazo the email address from where this message has been sent from is unmonitored. e-mails may be sent at http://dennislazo.com/email/. information herein is provided as is with no warranties, and confers no rights. "Ram" wrote in message .. . Hi Guys I have a small question regarding the installation of my new Windows XP Operating System. First, let me give an overview of what I have on my system currently. Currently, I have 2 Hard Drives on my PC. One is 120GB and the other is 40 GB. On this 120GB Hard Drive, I have Windows 98. And I use this 40 GB Hard Drive as an addditional drive. And both the drives are using the FAT32 file system. Now I got the upgrade version of Windows XP. What I want to do is to convert this 40GB Hard Drive to NTFS File System and install Windows XP on this drive and use this 120GB (which is currently FAT32 and have Windows 98)Hard Drive as an additional drive. I primarily want to use Windows XP on my system. Now the question is... Can this NTFS 40GB Hard Drive running Windows XP recognises this FAT32 Hard Drive and vice versa ? Can I transfer the data back and forth between both the drives ? Are there any compatibility issues ? My plan is, once I setup Windows XP on this NTFS 40GB Hard Drive, I will slowly transfer files from this FAT32 120GB Hard Drive to this NTFS 40GB Hard Drive and once I am done copying all the files to this 40GB Hard Drive, I will reformat this 120GB Hard Drive to NTFS File System. So is it possible to have that transition time ? OR am I better off with the FAT32 File System on both the Hard Drives ? If someone please help me with this problem, I really appreciate. Will be waiting for your responses. If you need further information, please contact me. Thank you very much. Ram. . |
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I really appreciate your responses. I got my answer. This will be of a great help. No. I don't want to use Windows 98 anymore once I setup WindowsXP. So I will make this 40GB as my C drive format it to NTFS File System and install WindowsXP and will use the 120GB FAT32 Hard Drive for my data. Thank you very much. Ram. -----Original Message----- correction: second paragraph should read: just make your 40 gig drive your drive c, install windows, make it as ntfs and you still would have access to your 120 gig drive using fat32. additional note: after installing winxp, you can convert fat32 drives to ntfs. but you will need a third party application to convert ntfs drives to fat32. "Dennis Lazo" wrote in message ... ram, if you plan to just discard win98 completely, go ahead and install winxp on your 40 gig drive as ntfs. anyways, i believe that your data is already in the 120 gig drive. just make your 40 gig drive your drive c, install windows, make it as ntfs and you still would have access to your 120 gig drive using ntfs. if you plan to use win98 still, then install winxp on the 40 gig drive using fat32. win98 cannot access ntfs drives. hope this helps again. -- Regards, Dennis Lazo the email address from where this message has been sent from is unmonitored. e-mails may be sent at http://dennislazo.com/email/. information herein is provided as is with no warranties, and confers no rights. "Ram" wrote in message ... -----Original Message----- ram, if you are going to convert the 40 gig drive (which i think would be drive d, unless the 120 gig drive is partitioned) to ntfs, you can only access this drive when you are using windows xp. with win xp, you can have access to fat, fat16, fat32, and ntfs drives. with win98 you can only have to fat, fat16, and fat32. however, if you are concerned about security, such that, you don't want other people to access your files and folders, then ntfs is the answer. tip: it would be better if you could make the 40gig drive your drive c, install windows and all applications there. make the 120 gig drive your data drive as it is always assumed that data takes more space than the operating system and application files. This is exactly what I want to do. In this case, do I need to convert this 120 gig drive to NTFS ? OR can I just leave it just like it was (FAT32) ? Thank you very much for your quick reply. Ram i hope that helps you a bit. -- Regards, Dennis Lazo the email address from where this message has been sent from is unmonitored. e-mails may be sent at http://dennislazo.com/email/. information herein is provided as is with no warranties, and confers no rights. "Ram" wrote in message . .. Hi Guys I have a small question regarding the installation of my new Windows XP Operating System. First, let me give an overview of what I have on my system currently. Currently, I have 2 Hard Drives on my PC. One is 120GB and the other is 40 GB. On this 120GB Hard Drive, I have Windows 98. And I use this 40 GB Hard Drive as an addditional drive. And both the drives are using the FAT32 file system. Now I got the upgrade version of Windows XP. What I want to do is to convert this 40GB Hard Drive to NTFS File System and install Windows XP on this drive and use this 120GB (which is currently FAT32 and have Windows 98) Hard Drive as an additional drive. I primarily want to use Windows XP on my system. Now the question is... Can this NTFS 40GB Hard Drive running Windows XP recognises this FAT32 Hard Drive and vice versa ? Can I transfer the data back and forth between both the drives ? Are there any compatibility issues ? My plan is, once I setup Windows XP on this NTFS 40GB Hard Drive, I will slowly transfer files from this FAT32 120GB Hard Drive to this NTFS 40GB Hard Drive and once I am done copying all the files to this 40GB Hard Drive, I will reformat this 120GB Hard Drive to NTFS File System. So is it possible to have that transition time ? OR am I better off with the FAT32 File System on both the Hard Drives ? If someone please help me with this problem, I really appreciate. Will be waiting for your responses. If you need further information, please contact me. Thank you very much. Ram. . . |
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Thank you very much for your response. This is going to help me understand the File Systems. I am not going to use Windows 98 once I setup Windows XP on my computer. I am planning to install Windows XP on 40GB NTFS Drive and use this 120GB FAT32 Drive as a Data Drive. That way I will have access to both the drives from Windows XP. Thanks again for the response. Ram. -----Original Message----- Ram an ntfs file system can 'see' a fat32 file system, but a fat32 file system cannot see an ntfs file system. So, basically you can transfer data from your windows xp ntfs partition to your windows 98 fat32 file system but you cannot transfer files from win 98 fat 32 to win xp ntfs. A little complex I know but that's how things work I'm afraid. It is basically the same if you use a Dos windows 98 start-up disk. The start- up disk will read the windows 98 partition but not the windows xp partition. -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert www.freelanceit.glowinternet.net "Ram" wrote in message ... Hi Guys I have a small question regarding the installation of my new Windows XP Operating System. First, let me give an overview of what I have on my system currently. Currently, I have 2 Hard Drives on my PC. One is 120GB and the other is 40 GB. On this 120GB Hard Drive, I have Windows 98. And I use this 40 GB Hard Drive as an addditional drive. And both the drives are using the FAT32 file system. Now I got the upgrade version of Windows XP. What I want to do is to convert this 40GB Hard Drive to NTFS File System and install Windows XP on this drive and use this 120GB (which is currently FAT32 and have Windows 98)Hard Drive as an additional drive. I primarily want to use Windows XP on my system. Now the question is... Can this NTFS 40GB Hard Drive running Windows XP recognises this FAT32 Hard Drive and vice versa ? Can I transfer the data back and forth between both the drives ? Are there any compatibility issues ? My plan is, once I setup Windows XP on this NTFS 40GB Hard Drive, I will slowly transfer files from this FAT32 120GB Hard Drive to this NTFS 40GB Hard Drive and once I am done copying all the files to this 40GB Hard Drive, I will reformat this 120GB Hard Drive to NTFS File System. So is it possible to have that transition time ? OR am I better off with the FAT32 File System on both the Hard Drives ? If someone please help me with this problem, I really appreciate. Will be waiting for your responses. If you need further information, please contact me. Thank you very much. Ram. . |
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Ram there is an easier way of doing it. Your XP cd has a program called Files
and settings Transfer network. This will save all the settings and files that are on the windows 98 system. I would use that. As with any installing of any os save all things that you don't want to lose. I usually burn to a cd in case the unforseeable happens. Michael L Hereid Sr "Ram" wrote: John Thank you very much for your response. This is going to help me understand the File Systems. I am not going to use Windows 98 once I setup Windows XP on my computer. I am planning to install Windows XP on 40GB NTFS Drive and use this 120GB FAT32 Drive as a Data Drive. That way I will have access to both the drives from Windows XP. Thanks again for the response. Ram. -----Original Message----- Ram an ntfs file system can 'see' a fat32 file system, but a fat32 file system cannot see an ntfs file system. So, basically you can transfer data from your windows xp ntfs partition to your windows 98 fat32 file system but you cannot transfer files from win 98 fat 32 to win xp ntfs. A little complex I know but that's how things work I'm afraid. It is basically the same if you use a Dos windows 98 start-up disk. The start- up disk will read the windows 98 partition but not the windows xp partition. -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert www.freelanceit.glowinternet.net "Ram" wrote in message ... Hi Guys I have a small question regarding the installation of my new Windows XP Operating System. First, let me give an overview of what I have on my system currently. Currently, I have 2 Hard Drives on my PC. One is 120GB and the other is 40 GB. On this 120GB Hard Drive, I have Windows 98. And I use this 40 GB Hard Drive as an addditional drive. And both the drives are using the FAT32 file system. Now I got the upgrade version of Windows XP. What I want to do is to convert this 40GB Hard Drive to NTFS File System and install Windows XP on this drive and use this 120GB (which is currently FAT32 and have Windows 98)Hard Drive as an additional drive. I primarily want to use Windows XP on my system. Now the question is... Can this NTFS 40GB Hard Drive running Windows XP recognises this FAT32 Hard Drive and vice versa ? Can I transfer the data back and forth between both the drives ? Are there any compatibility issues ? My plan is, once I setup Windows XP on this NTFS 40GB Hard Drive, I will slowly transfer files from this FAT32 120GB Hard Drive to this NTFS 40GB Hard Drive and once I am done copying all the files to this 40GB Hard Drive, I will reformat this 120GB Hard Drive to NTFS File System. So is it possible to have that transition time ? OR am I better off with the FAT32 File System on both the Hard Drives ? If someone please help me with this problem, I really appreciate. Will be waiting for your responses. If you need further information, please contact me. Thank you very much. Ram. . |
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"MikeHereidSr" wrote: Ram there is an easier way of doing it. Your XP cd has a program called Files and settings Transfer network. This will save all the settings and files that are on the windows 98 system. I would use that. As with any installing of any os save all things that you don't want to lose. I usually burn to a cd in case the unforseeable happens. Michael L Hereid Sr "Ram" wrote: John Thank you very much for your response. This is going to help me understand the File Systems. I am not going to use Windows 98 once I setup Windows XP on my computer. I am planning to install Windows XP on 40GB NTFS Drive and use this 120GB FAT32 Drive as a Data Drive. That way I will have access to both the drives from Windows XP. Thanks again for the response. Ram. -----Original Message----- Ram an ntfs file system can 'see' a fat32 file system, but a fat32 file system cannot see an ntfs file system. So, basically you can transfer data from your windows xp ntfs partition to your windows 98 fat32 file system but you cannot transfer files from win 98 fat 32 to win xp ntfs. A little complex I know but that's how things work I'm afraid. It is basically the same if you use a Dos windows 98 start-up disk. The start- up disk will read the windows 98 partition but not the windows xp partition. -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert www.freelanceit.glowinternet.net "Ram" wrote in message ... Hi Guys I have a small question regarding the installation of my new Windows XP Operating System. First, let me give an overview of what I have on my system currently. Currently, I have 2 Hard Drives on my PC. One is 120GB and the other is 40 GB. On this 120GB Hard Drive, I have Windows 98. And I use this 40 GB Hard Drive as an addditional drive. And both the drives are using the FAT32 file system. Now I got the upgrade version of Windows XP. What I want to do is to convert this 40GB Hard Drive to NTFS File System and install Windows XP on this drive and use this 120GB (which is currently FAT32 and have Windows 98)Hard Drive as an additional drive. I primarily want to use Windows XP on my system. Now the question is... Can this NTFS 40GB Hard Drive running Windows XP recognises this FAT32 Hard Drive and vice versa ? Can I transfer the data back and forth between both the drives ? Are there any compatibility issues ? My plan is, once I setup Windows XP on this NTFS 40GB Hard Drive, I will slowly transfer files from this FAT32 120GB Hard Drive to this NTFS 40GB Hard Drive and once I am done copying all the files to this 40GB Hard Drive, I will reformat this 120GB Hard Drive to NTFS File System. So is it possible to have that transition time ? OR am I better off with the FAT32 File System on both the Hard Drives ? If someone please help me with this problem, I really appreciate. Will be waiting for your responses. If you need further information, please contact me. Thank you very much. Ram. . |
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