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Old October 12th 15, 06:35 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
micky[_2_]
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Default Everything doesn't find notepad, Vista

I'm using Vista, but it seems similar to 7.

I wanted to validate my recollection of where notepad.exe resides, so I
opened Everything, which I just installed a few days ago because I saw
it praised here or maybe some other ng.

I only entered notepad and I got 14 objects, but none were the basic
notepad.exe!! When I finishedwriting notepad.exe, there were 9, but
two were notepad.exe.mui, one was prefetch, and 6 were long names that
start
C:\windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-notepad, or

notepadwin_31bf38....

I later verified that it's in windows\system32.

Why didn't that one show up and what else isn't showing up?

Thanks.
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Old October 12th 15, 06:59 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Cy Burnot
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Default Everything doesn't find notepad, Vista

micky wrote on 10/12/2015 1:35 PM:
I'm using Vista, but it seems similar to 7.

I wanted to validate my recollection of where notepad.exe resides, so I
opened Everything, which I just installed a few days ago because I saw
it praised here or maybe some other ng.

I only entered notepad and I got 14 objects, but none were the basic
notepad.exe!! When I finishedwriting notepad.exe, there were 9, but
two were notepad.exe.mui, one was prefetch, and 6 were long names that
start
C:\windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-notepad, or

notepadwin_31bf38....

I later verified that it's in windows\system32.

Why didn't that one show up and what else isn't showing up?

Thanks.


Did you look under "Search" and select the appropriate option?
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Old October 12th 15, 07:03 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default Everything doesn't find notepad, Vista

micky wrote:

I'm using Vista, but it seems similar to 7.

I wanted to validate my recollection of where notepad.exe resides, so I
opened Everything, which I just installed a few days ago because I saw
it praised here or maybe some other ng.

I only entered notepad and I got 14 objects, but none were the basic
notepad.exe!! When I finishedwriting notepad.exe, there were 9, but
two were notepad.exe.mui, one was prefetch, and 6 were long names that
start
C:\windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-notepad, or

notepadwin_31bf38....

I later verified that it's in windows\system32.

Why didn't that one show up and what else isn't showing up?


Sounds like an application issue, not an OS issue. Have you tried
asking the user community over in their forums?

http://www.voidtools.com/forum/

Could be you need to change an app option, like what to index.
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Old October 12th 15, 08:00 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mayayana
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Default Everything doesn't find notepad, Vista

| I later verified that it's in windows\system32.
|
| Why didn't that one show up and what else isn't showing up?
|

Is it possible that you're using the 32-bit version on
Vista-64?

Have you tried Agent Ransack? It's fairly easy to
search for file names and doesn't require
indexing. Agent Ransack can also search within any
file for specific text, then displays how the text
appears on the right side for any file selected. It
also searches for file names, of course, but I
find that looking for text is a far more common
need for me. Typically I'm looking for information or
an article that I saved and I usually know where it
should be, but I'm not sure what I would have named
the file.

I started using Agent Ransack with XP, because XP
search, even when indexing was enabled, was so bad.
And XP could no longer return text in many file types.
For example, CAB files have a plain text file list in their
headers. That makes it very easy to find a specific
system file among the dozens of Windows CABs. But s
tarting with XP, Windows Find could no longer search
text in CABs.


  #6  
Old October 12th 15, 10:34 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
micky[_2_]
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Default Everything doesn't find notepad, Vista

In alt.windows7.general, on Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:24 +0100 (BST),
(John K.Eason) wrote:

In article ,

(micky) wrote:

*From:* micky
*Date:* Mon, 12 Oct 2015 13:35:05 -0400

I'm using Vista, but it seems similar to 7.

I wanted to validate my recollection of where notepad.exe resides,
so I opened Everything, which I just installed a few days ago because I
saw it praised here or maybe some other ng.

I only entered notepad and I got 14 objects, but none were the basic
notepad.exe!! When I finishedwriting notepad.exe, there were 9,
but two were notepad.exe.mui, one was prefetch, and 6 were long names
that start
C:\windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-notepad, or
notepadwin_31bf38....

I later verified that it's in windows\system32.

Why didn't that one show up and what else isn't showing up?


Simplest way to find an executable is to Right-click on the shortcut to it and


I don't have a shortcut to it, because either the file extension calls
it, Right-click / Edit calls it, or I use Start / Run / Notepad.

But your idea will work for other programs. Thanks.

choose 'Properties' from the popup menu. The location will be in the 'Target' field
on the Shortcut tab.

Regards
John ) Remove the obvious to reply...


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Old October 12th 15, 10:58 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
micky[_2_]
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Default Everything doesn't find notepad, Vista

In alt.windows7.general, on Mon, 12 Oct 2015 13:59:21 -0400, Cy Burnot
wrote:

micky wrote on 10/12/2015 1:35 PM:
I'm using Vista, but it seems similar to 7.

I wanted to validate my recollection of where notepad.exe resides, so I
opened Everything, which I just installed a few days ago because I saw
it praised here or maybe some other ng.

I only entered notepad and I got 14 objects, but none were the basic
notepad.exe!! When I finishedwriting notepad.exe, there were 9, but
two were notepad.exe.mui, one was prefetch, and 6 were long names that
start
C:\windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-notepad, or

notepadwin_31bf38....

I later verified that it's in windows\system32.

Why didn't that one show up and what else isn't showing up?

Thanks.


Did you look under "Search" and select the appropriate option?


Match whole word is checked -- is that what you mean? -- though it came
up with many hits much longer than what I had entered.

Since I posted, I turned on the USB HDD dock, and 3 separate partitions
in two HDDs have the same file, and they all showed up. But still not
the one in the C: partition! The other 9 that I mentioned are still
there.

I have another wierdo problem I'm going to post about soon.
  #8  
Old October 12th 15, 10:58 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
micky[_2_]
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Default Everything doesn't find notepad, Vista

In alt.windows7.general, on Mon, 12 Oct 2015 13:03:33 -0500, VanguardLH
wrote:

micky wrote:

I'm using Vista, but it seems similar to 7.

I wanted to validate my recollection of where notepad.exe resides, so I
opened Everything, which I just installed a few days ago because I saw
it praised here or maybe some other ng.

I only entered notepad and I got 14 objects, but none were the basic
notepad.exe!! When I finishedwriting notepad.exe, there were 9, but
two were notepad.exe.mui, one was prefetch, and 6 were long names that
start
C:\windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-notepad, or

notepadwin_31bf38....

I later verified that it's in windows\system32.

Why didn't that one show up and what else isn't showing up?


Sounds like an application issue, not an OS issue. Have you tried


Good point.

asking the user community over in their forums?

http://www.voidtools.com/forum/


Thanks for the url. I hate web-forums.

Could be you need to change an app option, like what to index.


  #9  
Old October 12th 15, 10:59 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
micky[_2_]
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Default Everything doesn't find notepad, Vista

In alt.windows7.general, on Mon, 12 Oct 2015 15:00:01 -0400, "Mayayana"
wrote:

| I later verified that it's in windows\system32.
|
| Why didn't that one show up and what else isn't showing up?
|

Is it possible that you're using the 32-bit version on
Vista-64?


I just checked. Nol.

Have you tried Agent Ransack? It's fairly easy to
search for file names and doesn't require
indexing. Agent Ransack can also search within any
file for specific text, then displays how the text
appears on the right side for any file selected. It


That would all be good. Ransack got praise in the same thread that
praised Everything, but i remembered the second name.

also searches for file names, of course, but I
find that looking for text is a far more common
need for me. Typically I'm looking for information or
an article that I saved and I usually know where it
should be, but I'm not sure what I would have named
the file.

I started using Agent Ransack with XP, because XP
search, even when indexing was enabled, was so bad.
And XP could no longer return text in many file types.
For example, CAB files have a plain text file list in their
headers. That makes it very easy to find a specific
system file among the dozens of Windows CABs. But s
tarting with XP, Windows Find could no longer search
text in CABs.


I had never done that anyhow. I think our needs are pretty different,
but I'm still going to look at Ransack. Thanks

But I still have to solve this problem.

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Old October 12th 15, 11:08 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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Default Everything doesn't find notepad, Vista

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 13:35:05 -0400, micky wrote:

I'm using Vista, but it seems similar to 7.

I wanted to validate my recollection of where notepad.exe resides, so I
opened Everything, which I just installed a few days ago because I saw
it praised here or maybe some other ng.

I only entered notepad and I got 14 objects, but none were the basic
notepad.exe!! When I finishedwriting notepad.exe, there were 9, but
two were notepad.exe.mui, one was prefetch, and 6 were long names that
start
C:\windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-notepad, or

notepadwin_31bf38....

I later verified that it's in windows\system32.

Why didn't that one show up and what else isn't showing up?


I've been using Everything for years and every now and then something
doesn't show up that I think should be there. I don't keep track of how
often, but it feels like about 9-12 months or so. When that happens, I
simply rebuild the database and I'm back in business. It only takes 15-20
seconds here.

In Everything, select Options, Indexes, Force Rebuild.

With a blank search, check the number of indexed files in the lower left
corner of the Everything GUI. Mine is 218,636. Rebuild the index and see if
the total number of indexed files has changed (increased).

--

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Old October 12th 15, 11:45 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default Everything doesn't find notepad, Vista

On 10/12/2015 2:34 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.windows7.general, on Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:24 +0100 (BST),
(John K.Eason) wrote:

In article ,

(micky) wrote:

*From:* micky
*Date:* Mon, 12 Oct 2015 13:35:05 -0400

I'm using Vista, but it seems similar to 7.

I wanted to validate my recollection of where notepad.exe resides,
so I opened Everything, which I just installed a few days ago because I
saw it praised here or maybe some other ng.

I only entered notepad and I got 14 objects, but none were the basic
notepad.exe!! When I finishedwriting notepad.exe, there were 9,
but two were notepad.exe.mui, one was prefetch, and 6 were long names
that start
C:\windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-notepad, or
notepadwin_31bf38....

I later verified that it's in windows\system32.

Why didn't that one show up and what else isn't showing up?


Simplest way to find an executable is to Right-click on the shortcut to it and


I don't have a shortcut to it, because either the file extension calls
it, Right-click / Edit calls it, or I use Start / Run / Notepad.

But your idea will work for other programs. Thanks.

choose 'Properties' from the popup menu. The location will be in the 'Target' field
on the Shortcut tab.

Regards
John ) Remove the obvious to reply...



In this case (that is, with Notepad running on file), open Windows Task
Manager by Ctrl-Alt-Del. Select the Applications tab. right-click on
Notepad and select Go To Process in the pull-down context menu. On the
Processes tab, right-click on the notepad.exe process (already
selected), and select Open File Location in the pull-down context menu.

--
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Is Kim Davis a hero or a villain? See my
http://www.rossde.com/KimDavis.html.
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Old October 12th 15, 11:50 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
David E. Ross[_2_]
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Default Everything doesn't find notepad, Vista

On 10/12/2015 10:35 AM, micky wrote:
I'm using Vista, but it seems similar to 7.

I wanted to validate my recollection of where notepad.exe resides, so I
opened Everything, which I just installed a few days ago because I saw
it praised here or maybe some other ng.

I only entered notepad and I got 14 objects, but none were the basic
notepad.exe!! When I finishedwriting notepad.exe, there were 9, but
two were notepad.exe.mui, one was prefetch, and 6 were long names that
start
C:\windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-notepad, or

notepadwin_31bf38....

I later verified that it's in windows\system32.

Why didn't that one show up and what else isn't showing up?

Thanks.


Very interesting.

Using Everything from http://www.voidtools.com/, searching on
notepad.exe and selecting Executable in the pull-down list at the right
of the search area, I get 11 file. None of them are the Notepad that I
use.

Using SearchMyFiles from
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/search_my_files.html, I get 19 files.
One of them is the Notepad that I use.

Now I have to test to see which of the redundant files I can delete
without causing problems. Arrggghhh!

--
David E. Ross

Is Kim Davis a hero or a villain? See my
http://www.rossde.com/KimDavis.html.
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Old October 12th 15, 11:58 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
David E. Ross[_2_]
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Default Everything doesn't find notepad, Vista

On 10/12/2015 3:50 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 10/12/2015 10:35 AM, micky wrote:
I'm using Vista, but it seems similar to 7.

I wanted to validate my recollection of where notepad.exe resides, so I
opened Everything, which I just installed a few days ago because I saw
it praised here or maybe some other ng.

I only entered notepad and I got 14 objects, but none were the basic
notepad.exe!! When I finishedwriting notepad.exe, there were 9, but
two were notepad.exe.mui, one was prefetch, and 6 were long names that
start
C:\windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-notepad, or

notepadwin_31bf38....

I later verified that it's in windows\system32.

Why didn't that one show up and what else isn't showing up?

Thanks.


Very interesting.

Using Everything from http://www.voidtools.com/, searching on
notepad.exe and selecting Executable in the pull-down list at the right
of the search area, I get 11 file. None of them are the Notepad that I
use.

Using SearchMyFiles from
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/search_my_files.html, I get 19 files.
One of them is the Notepad that I use.

Now I have to test to see which of the redundant files I can delete
without causing problems. Arrggghhh!


Agent Ransack from http://www.mythicsoft.com/agentransack/ also gave
me 19 files. No, I did not check to see if they are the same 19 found
by SearchMyFiles.

--
David E. Ross

Is Kim Davis a hero or a villain? See my
http://www.rossde.com/KimDavis.html.
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Old October 13th 15, 12:49 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Cy Burnot
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Default Everything doesn't find notepad, Vista

micky wrote on 10/12/2015 5:58 PM:


Did you look under "Search" and select the appropriate option?


Match whole word is checked -- is that what you mean?


No. Look further down that menu.
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Old October 13th 15, 02:47 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default Everything doesn't find notepad, Vista

David E. Ross wrote:

Agent Ransack from http://www.mythicsoft.com/agentransack/ also gave
me 19 files. No, I did not check to see if they are the same 19 found
by SearchMyFiles.


You'll find that many of the notepad.exe instances are in the winsxs
subfolders. WinSXS is the Side-by-Side repository to avoid the "DLL
Hell" problems encountered with prior versions of Windows. An app's
install may create its own repository and it may include files other
than just for the program, like Notepad. Why some author thinks they
need an specific and old version of Notepad is known only to the program
author but my guess is that they rolled up several ancilliary files to
create an image of their program without ever considering if a specific
version of a text editor was really needed. Microsoft came up with a
means of allowing programs to access older versions of files. That
doesn't mean authors suddenly became expert in deciding what to bundle
in their installer.

By the way, Agent Ransack got renamed to FileLocator Lite. Companies
and end users were leery of products that implied they ransacked their
computers plus the program didn't ransack anything so it was an
inappropriate product name.
 




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