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Esata - Sata query
I have a couple pcs here have a dedicated Esata port on motherboard. I
also have a number of Sata hard disks just sitting unsued on a shelf. I'm wondering if it's ok to run a standard usb cable from the Esata connector out the back of a pc and connect it to a regular Sata drive. I'd of course give it it's own power supply using a "special" cable I already have. |
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pjp wrote:
I have a couple pcs here have a dedicated Esata port on motherboard. I also have a number of Sata hard disks just sitting unsued on a shelf. I'm wondering if it's ok to run a standard usb cable from the Esata connector out the back of a pc and connect it to a regular Sata drive. I'd of course give it it's own power supply using a "special" cable I already have. Aren't the SATA/eSATA cables completely different than the USB cables? The ones I have most certainly are, just looking at the connectors. |
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pjp wrote:
I have a couple pcs here have a dedicated Esata port on motherboard. I also have a number of Sata hard disks just sitting unsued on a shelf. I'm wondering if it's ok to run a standard usb cable from the Esata connector out the back of a pc and connect it to a regular Sata drive. I'd of course give it it's own power supply using a "special" cable I already have. ESATA is the ******* child of standards. People have been screwing around with it to such a point, I couldn't tell you what additional interfaces they've added to the connector. You see, they *do* put USB pins on at least one flavor. Just for the confusion it will cause. https://sites.google.com/site/displa...esata_pins.jpg "EUHP pinout" USB ESATA EARS-for-power P1 +5V P5 GND P12 VBUS (may be +12V or +5V!) P2 D- P6 TX+ P13 GND P3 D+ P7 TX- P4 GND P8 GND P9 RX+ P10 RX- P11 GND original pins as subset There might be *at least* four or five connector types for these. Plus, you'll need your voltmeter to check what is on P12 and whether it's the right thing for your adapter. (I wouldn't use it without checking first what is on P12.) Look in the barrel with a strong light, to start your journey of discovery. While the Wikipedia article on ESATA is better than nothing, I don't think it has seriously addressed all the variants. I kept seeing little blurbs where small companies seemed to be messing around, and the SATAIO page made no mention of the options at all. P5-P11 Original pinout P5-P11 + P12-P13 Ears +5V for 2.5 drives P5-P11 + P12-P13 Ears +12V for 3.5 drives P5-P11 + P12-P13 Ears + USB2 etc P5-P11 + P12-P13 Ears + USB2 etc You won't catch me using one of those ports! Not interested. If you use a seven pin ESATA to SATA cable (if you can find one), then that solves the "what if P12 shorts to something" problem. Paul |
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In message , Paul
writes: [] You see, they *do* put USB pins on at least one flavor. Just for the confusion it will cause. [] One of the three rectangular connectors on this laptop does indeed look as if it's both USB and ESATA. (The other two are just USB.) I've used it _as_ USB, and it seems to work fine - the only difference from other USB connections being that it feels slightly different on insertion. I haven't tried it as ESATA as I don't have any (E)SATA peripherals. (I have the odd SATA drive, but I've always felt ESATA isn't the same as SATA.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf I hate people who quote Shakespeare at you but are proud that they can't add up. Stupid People. - Carol Vorderman (Radio Times, 1-7 March 2003) |
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In message , pjp
writes: In article , says... In message , Paul writes: [] You see, they *do* put USB pins on at least one flavor. Just for the confusion it will cause. [] One of the three rectangular connectors on this laptop does indeed look as if it's both USB and ESATA. (The other two are just USB.) Yes, two in particular are Dell pc's and what's labelled eSata looks identical to a Sata port. They're almost beside each other. I know difference for USB btw. So do I. This connector on my (Toshiba Portégé) laptop appears to be _both_ - presumably to just save space. I presume it has both lots of connections, and whatever you plug into it - either a USB type A plug, or an ESATA cable - only makes contact with one of them. I've used it _as_ USB, and it seems to work fine - the only difference from other USB connections being that it feels slightly different on insertion. I haven't tried it as ESATA as I don't have any (E)SATA peripherals. (I have the odd SATA drive, but I've always felt ESATA isn't the same as SATA.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf it is easy to make up a lie, but it can take much more time and effort to convincingly refute it. - Patrick Cockburn, i, 2016-9-24 |
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , pjp writes: In article , says... In message , Paul writes: [] You see, they *do* put USB pins on at least one flavor. Just for the confusion it will cause. [] One of the three rectangular connectors on this laptop does indeed look as if it's both USB and ESATA. (The other two are just USB.) Yes, two in particular are Dell pc's and what's labelled eSata looks identical to a Sata port. They're almost beside each other. I know difference for USB btw. So do I. This connector on my (Toshiba Portégé) laptop appears to be _both_ - presumably to just save space. I presume it has both lots of connections, and whatever you plug into it - either a USB type A plug, or an ESATA cable - only makes contact with one of them. Can someone show me a picture of an eSATA - USB connector? Is there even a unique standard for such a thing? Just curious. |
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On 3/7/19 11:27 AM, pjp wrote:
I have a couple pcs here have a dedicated Esata port on motherboard. I also have a number of Sata hard disks just sitting unsued on a shelf. Just run a esata to sata cable to your drive. Star Tech has them You will need a separate power cable. I do this all the time to transfer data from old drives to new drives. I'm wondering if it's ok to run a standard usb cable from the Esata connector out the back of a pc and connect it to a regular Sata drive. I'd of course give it it's own power supply using a "special" cable I already have. square peg, round hole. You could always put your drive in an external carrier with an USB interface, then run a USB cable to a usb port on your computer The only external carrier I like is the Rosewill RX304-APU3-35B. Comes with a esata cable and usb 3 cable. Has a temperature controlled fan too For temporary transfers, I use an adapter from Star Tech. Comes with a power supply too. Does sata, ide, usb(3) |
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