SP2 Paranoia

My new computer (middle of Oct build) shows it has all hotfixes for SP2
except for a final KB.

I ordered (and received in less than a week!) the SP2 disk anyway as the
box isn't connected to the net yet.

I have a good firewall, AV (Zone Alarm) and anti-spyware and can already
block pop-ups/ads and spam. (I do connect my laptop to it and transfer
data from the web, I do not use OE as my primary browser but have some
old e-mail I refer to.)

1. Hearing the scary stories about SP2, I'd rather not slide the disk in
and let it have its way--if, there is only one "fix" missing, is that a
reasonable concern?

2. I obtained the info on the intalled fixes using Belarc---Should I
trust it?

3. Are there any hidden goodies on the disk that I should be aware of
(or does the SP2 section at MS cover everything)?

4. The SP2 site made my eyes glaze over. It is difficult to separate the
caveats from the true concerns or dangers. (let alone the horror stories
in these groups)

Other than the final KB that I appear to be missing, what if any
features on the disk would be essential to install?

Again, Belarc shows "SP2", a list of fixes (all checked) and the KB with
an X---
As I can't go to the Update site and am leary about letting the disk run
wild, am I prolly pretty safe for the time being?

That is, might I do more harm than good by "using" the disk (other than
"extracting" something I don't know about, yet)

!A side question---I dual boot w/W2k w/SP4 does that complicate things?

When I re-installed FrontPage 97 in W2k recently (I only use it to
access/maintain my webs) it called for a re-install of SP4?!

I have yet to install FP97 in XP as I don't need any more problems.

Is that an undue concern--or should I go ahead and install FP97?

Michael

On 10/9/2004 7:49 AM, Michael wrote:
My new computer (middle of Oct build) shows it has all hotfixes for SP2
^^^^^
Sept, Duh?

except for a final KB.

I ordered (and received in less than a week!) the SP2 disk anyway as the
box isn't connected to the net yet.

I have a good firewall, AV (Zone Alarm) and anti-spyware and can already
block pop-ups/ads and spam. (I do connect my laptop to it and transfer
data from the web, I do not use OE as my primary browser but have some
old e-mail I refer to.)

1. Hearing the scary stories about SP2, I'd rather not slide the disk in
and let it have its way--if, there is only one "fix" missing, is that a
reasonable concern?

2. I obtained the info on the intalled fixes using Belarc---Should I
trust it?

3. Are there any hidden goodies on the disk that I should be aware of
(or does the SP2 section at MS cover everything)?

4. The SP2 site made my eyes glaze over. It is difficult to separate the
caveats from the true concerns or dangers. (let alone the horror stories
in these groups)

Other than the final KB that I appear to be missing, what if any
features on the disk would be essential to install?

Again, Belarc shows "SP2", a list of fixes (all checked) and the KB with
an X---
As I can't go to the Update site and am leary about letting the disk run
wild, am I prolly pretty safe for the time being?

That is, might I do more harm than good by "using" the disk (other than
"extracting" something I don't know about, yet)

!A side question---I dual boot w/W2k w/SP4 does that complicate things?

When I re-installed FrontPage 97 in W2k recently (I only use it to
access/maintain my webs) it called for a re-install of SP4?!

I have yet to install FP97 in XP as I don't need any more problems.

Is that an undue concern--or should I go ahead and install FP97?

Michael

SP2 is a solid, secure release. It is a major "Critical Update"
for Windows XP and updates over 5 million lines of code,
enabling much stronger security, stability, and affords a tad better
performance benefit. SP2 was extensively tested on hundreds of
thousands of various computer configurations over a period of
many, many months. I would encourage you to install it at your
earliest convenience.

You may wish to view the following:

Top 10 Reasons to Install Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2)
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/topten.mspx

List of fixes included in Windows XP Service Pack 2
http://support.microsoft.com/default...t=windowsxpsp2

Learn About Windows XP Service Pack 2
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/preinstall.mspx

Changes to Functionality in Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro.../sp2chngs.mspx

What to Know Before You Download and Install Windows XP Service Pack 2
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...hattoknow.mspx

Windows XP Service Pack 2 Checklist
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/xpsp2.htm

[Courtesy of MS-MVP Jupiter Jones]

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx

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"Michael" wrote:

| My new computer (middle of Oct build) shows it has all hotfixes for SP2
| except for a final KB.
|
| I ordered (and received in less than a week!) the SP2 disk anyway as the
| box isn't connected to the net yet.
|
| I have a good firewall, AV (Zone Alarm) and anti-spyware and can already
| block pop-ups/ads and spam. (I do connect my laptop to it and transfer
| data from the web, I do not use OE as my primary browser but have some
| old e-mail I refer to.)
|
| 1. Hearing the scary stories about SP2, I'd rather not slide the disk in
| and let it have its way--if, there is only one "fix" missing, is that a
| reasonable concern?
|
| 2. I obtained the info on the intalled fixes using Belarc---Should I
| trust it?
|
| 3. Are there any hidden goodies on the disk that I should be aware of
| (or does the SP2 section at MS cover everything)?
|
| 4. The SP2 site made my eyes glaze over. It is difficult to separate the
| caveats from the true concerns or dangers. (let alone the horror stories
| in these groups)
|
| Other than the final KB that I appear to be missing, what if any
| features on the disk would be essential to install?
|
| Again, Belarc shows "SP2", a list of fixes (all checked) and the KB with
| an X---
| As I can't go to the Update site and am leary about letting the disk run
| wild, am I prolly pretty safe for the time being?
|
| That is, might I do more harm than good by "using" the disk (other than
| "extracting" something I don't know about, yet)
|
| !A side question---I dual boot w/W2k w/SP4 does that complicate things?
|
| When I re-installed FrontPage 97 in W2k recently (I only use it to
| access/maintain my webs) it called for a re-install of SP4?!
|
| I have yet to install FP97 in XP as I don't need any more problems.
|
| Is that an undue concern--or should I go ahead and install FP97?
|
| Michael

On 10/9/2004 8:04 AM, Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:

SP2 is a solid, secure release. It is a major "Critical Update"
for Windows XP and updates over 5 million lines of code,
enabling much stronger security, stability, and affords a tad better
performance benefit. SP2 was extensively tested on hundreds of
thousands of various computer configurations over a period of
many, many months. I would encourage you to install it at your
earliest convenience.

You may wish to view the following:

Top 10 Reasons to Install Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2)
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/topten.mspx

List of fixes included in Windows XP Service Pack 2
http://support.microsoft.com/default...t=windowsxpsp2

Learn About Windows XP Service Pack 2
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/preinstall.mspx

Changes to Functionality in Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro.../sp2chngs.mspx

What to Know Before You Download and Install Windows XP Service Pack 2
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...hattoknow.mspx

Windows XP Service Pack 2 Checklist
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/xpsp2.htm

[Courtesy of MS-MVP Jupiter Jones]


Thanks Colin, was a leary to ask, things have been dicey here for me!


Please address my FP97 concerns--

Aslo, you say slide that SP4 CD in and let it go---------?

Learn how to acquire FrontPage 2003 and order it today
http://www.microsoft.com/office/fron...y/default.mspx

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Michael" wrote:
|
| Please address my FP97 concerns--

MS really dropped the ball with the newer FrontPage editions, and they =
are not worth the money. best to buy MAcromedia DreamWeaver for more, =
and get better pricing on future upgrades.


"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote in message =
...
Learn how to acquire FrontPage 2003 and order it today
http://www.microsoft.com/office/fron...y/default.mspx
=20
--=20
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
=20
Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx
=20
=
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=20
"Michael" wrote:
|=20
| Please address my FP97 concerns--

With a new computer and newly installed copy of XP you should have no
problems with installation of SP2. The majority of problems appear to be on
poorly maintained machines. I suggest you defragment the hard drive (a
desirable thing to do following installations), but other than that, as Nike
says, 'just do it.'

"Michael" wrote in message
...
My new computer (middle of Oct build) shows it has all hotfixes for SP2
except for a final KB.

I ordered (and received in less than a week!) the SP2 disk anyway as the
box isn't connected to the net yet.

I have a good firewall, AV (Zone Alarm) and anti-spyware and can already
block pop-ups/ads and spam. (I do connect my laptop to it and transfer
data from the web, I do not use OE as my primary browser but have some old
e-mail I refer to.)

1. Hearing the scary stories about SP2, I'd rather not slide the disk in
and let it have its way--if, there is only one "fix" missing, is that a
reasonable concern?

2. I obtained the info on the intalled fixes using Belarc---Should I trust
it?

3. Are there any hidden goodies on the disk that I should be aware of (or
does the SP2 section at MS cover everything)?

4. The SP2 site made my eyes glaze over. It is difficult to separate the
caveats from the true concerns or dangers. (let alone the horror stories
in these groups)

Other than the final KB that I appear to be missing, what if any features
on the disk would be essential to install?

Again, Belarc shows "SP2", a list of fixes (all checked) and the KB with
an X---
As I can't go to the Update site and am leary about letting the disk run
wild, am I prolly pretty safe for the time being?

That is, might I do more harm than good by "using" the disk (other than
"extracting" something I don't know about, yet)

!A side question---I dual boot w/W2k w/SP4 does that complicate things?

When I re-installed FrontPage 97 in W2k recently (I only use it to
access/maintain my webs) it called for a re-install of SP4?!

I have yet to install FP97 in XP as I don't need any more problems.

Is that an undue concern--or should I go ahead and install FP97?

Michael

On 10/9/2004 10:58 AM, Colin Barnhorst wrote:

With a new computer and newly installed copy of XP you should have no
problems with installation of SP2. The majority of problems appear to be on
poorly maintained machines. I suggest you defragment the hard drive (a
desirable thing to do following installations), but other than that, as Nike
says, 'just do it.'

Thanks----more questions though....further down---

Though not needed, I defrag at the end of he day...it zaps through
several large partitions in a flash. On the other hand? XP didn't accept
the version of Diskeeper I use on W2k....? That version seem to be more
particular, that is the MS version is either very fast or Diskeeper
"does more?". Am I missing something...the XP defrag is rather
basic----are there any options?



Actualy, I only used FP as I had a contrac with ATT and 90+% of the
sites were on FP servers---as my own, which has been dormant.

I spoke to may host about changing it, I don't have many FP extentions
to remove, so I'll probably bail on the FP server. I've been using more
current editors for years.

An added concern? When I was having difficuty with XP (I also dual-boot
w/W2k)? One person issued a not to subtle threat to the effect: I can't
wait til you try to install SP2? Why would W2k enter into the equation
(its SP4)?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I wrote back that I'd booted W2k with Dos, NT, 95 9, and SE---no prob?
I do have a DOS partition, XP, and W2k follow.

Without reading? Is it a standard SP install where one can designate a
partition to "store" the setup? While I do have 900 meg of space in the
XP partition, I may want to keep it around for a few days if there is a
problem.

Curious? Who so much space if the whole package is under 300 meg?

Also, my XP is very current---I have the new Media Player and again do
not use IE6, OE and my firewall is better than the MS version---I have
good spam blocking, anti-popup, antispy, AV....

!!!If I am only missing the final KB...can someone be concise and let me
know my benefits? I realize we only hear the bad news here? Then
again, my stories have not been explained (XP repair gave me a fresh
install---twice?). (Not to mention that I went in and out of the
Activation routine---and never did activate?!)

If you were me, I believe you might be a bit wary as well?

Michael wrote:
On 10/9/2004 10:58 AM, Colin Barnhorst wrote:

With a new computer and newly installed copy of XP you should have no
problems with installation of SP2. The majority of problems appear to
be on poorly maintained machines. I suggest you defragment the hard
drive (a desirable thing to do following installations), but other
than that, as Nike says, 'just do it.'


Thanks----more questions though....further down---

Though not needed, I defrag at the end of he day...it zaps through
several large partitions in a flash. On the other hand? XP didn't accept
the version of Diskeeper I use on W2k....? That version seem to be more
particular, that is the MS version is either very fast or Diskeeper
"does more?". Am I missing something...the XP defrag is rather
basic----are there any options?



Actualy, I only used FP as I had a contrac with ATT and 90+% of the
sites were on FP servers---as my own, which has been dormant.

I spoke to may host about changing it, I don't have many FP extentions
to remove, so I'll probably bail on the FP server. I've been using more
current editors for years.

An added concern? When I was having difficuty with XP (I also dual-boot
w/W2k)? One person issued a not to subtle threat to the effect: I can't
wait til you try to install SP2? Why would W2k enter into the equation
(its SP4)?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I wrote back that I'd booted W2k with Dos, NT, 95 9, and SE---no prob? I
do have a DOS partition, XP, and W2k follow.

Without reading? Is it a standard SP install where one can designate a
partition to "store" the setup? While I do have 900 meg of space in the
XP partition, I may want to keep it around for a few days if there is a
problem.

Curious? Who so much space if the whole package is under 300 meg?

Also, my XP is very current---I have the new Media Player and again do
not use IE6, OE and my firewall is better than the MS version---I have
good spam blocking, anti-popup, antispy, AV....

!!!If I am only missing the final KB...can someone be concise and let me
know my benefits? I realize we only hear the bad news here? Then
again, my stories have not been explained (XP repair gave me a fresh
install---twice?). (Not to mention that I went in and out of the
Activation routine---and never did activate?!)

If you were me, I believe you might be a bit wary as well?

You might want to try asking concise questions using complete sentences
and standard punctuation. This is not a nitpicking dig--it's very hard
to determine exactly what you're asking.

Standard Diskeeper 8 works with XP Home only. XP Pro requires Diskeeper 8
PRO. You may need to upgrade. Since the standard version works with all
versions of Windows prior to XP, you probably did not notice that there was
a different version required for XP Pro.

"Michael" wrote in message
...
On 10/9/2004 10:58 AM, Colin Barnhorst wrote:

With a new computer and newly installed copy of XP you should have no
problems with installation of SP2. The majority of problems appear to be
on poorly maintained machines. I suggest you defragment the hard drive
(a desirable thing to do following installations), but other than that,
as Nike says, 'just do it.'

Thanks----more questions though....further down---

Though not needed, I defrag at the end of he day...it zaps through several
large partitions in a flash. On the other hand? XP didn't accept the
version of Diskeeper I use on W2k....? That version seem to be more
particular, that is the MS version is either very fast or Diskeeper "does
more?". Am I missing something...the XP defrag is rather basic----are
there any options?



Actualy, I only used FP as I had a contrac with ATT and 90+% of the sites
were on FP servers---as my own, which has been dormant.

I spoke to may host about changing it, I don't have many FP extentions to
remove, so I'll probably bail on the FP server. I've been using more
current editors for years.

An added concern? When I was having difficuty with XP (I also dual-boot
w/W2k)? One person issued a not to subtle threat to the effect: I can't
wait til you try to install SP2? Why would W2k enter into the equation
(its SP4)?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I wrote back that I'd booted W2k with Dos, NT, 95 9, and SE---no prob? I
do have a DOS partition, XP, and W2k follow.

Without reading? Is it a standard SP install where one can designate a
partition to "store" the setup? While I do have 900 meg of space in the
XP partition, I may want to keep it around for a few days if there is a
problem.

Curious? Who so much space if the whole package is under 300 meg?

Also, my XP is very current---I have the new Media Player and again do not
use IE6, OE and my firewall is better than the MS version---I have good
spam blocking, anti-popup, antispy, AV....

!!!If I am only missing the final KB...can someone be concise and let me
know my benefits? I realize we only hear the bad news here? Then again,
my stories have not been explained (XP repair gave me a fresh
install---twice?). (Not to mention that I went in and out of the
Activation routine---and never did activate?!)

If you were me, I believe you might be a bit wary as well?

On 10/9/2004 2:15 PM, Phil McCracken wrote:
Michael wrote:

On 10/9/2004 10:58 AM, Colin Barnhorst wrote:

With a new computer and newly installed copy of XP you should have no
problems with installation of SP2. The majority of problems appear
to be on poorly maintained machines. I suggest you defragment the
hard drive (a desirable thing to do following installations), but
other than that, as Nike says, 'just do it.'



Thanks----more questions though....further down---

Though not needed, I defrag at the end of he day...it zaps through
several large partitions in a flash. On the other hand? XP didn't
accept the version of Diskeeper I use on W2k....? That version seem
to be more particular, that is the MS version is either very fast or
Diskeeper "does more?". Am I missing something...the XP defrag is
rather basic----are there any options?



Actualy, I only used FP as I had a contrac with ATT and 90+% of the
sites were on FP servers---as my own, which has been dormant.

I spoke to may host about changing it, I don't have many FP extentions
to remove, so I'll probably bail on the FP server. I've been using
more current editors for years.

An added concern? When I was having difficuty with XP (I also
dual-boot w/W2k)? One person issued a not to subtle threat to the
effect: I can't wait til you try to install SP2? Why would W2k enter
into the equation (its SP4)?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I wrote back that I'd booted W2k with Dos, NT, 95 9, and SE---no prob?
I do have a DOS partition, XP, and W2k follow.

Without reading? Is it a standard SP install where one can designate a
partition to "store" the setup? While I do have 900 meg of space in
the XP partition, I may want to keep it around for a few days if there
is a problem.

Curious? Who so much space if the whole package is under 300 meg?

Also, my XP is very current---I have the new Media Player and again do
not use IE6, OE and my firewall is better than the MS version---I have
good spam blocking, anti-popup, antispy, AV....

!!!If I am only missing the final KB...can someone be concise and let
me know my benefits? I realize we only hear the bad news here? Then
again, my stories have not been explained (XP repair gave me a fresh
install---twice?). (Not to mention that I went in and out of the
Activation routine---and never did activate?!)

If you were me, I believe you might be a bit wary as well?


You might want to try asking concise questions using complete sentences
and standard punctuation. This is not a nitpicking dig--it's very hard
to determine exactly what you're asking.
Or, you didn't have any answers.

A hint (when you see this at the end of a sentence [?]. That means I'm
asking a question.

It really isn't to tough, Phil. If you're reading and see that symbol,
work backwork, as the words before one of these [?] is probably a clue
that I need an answer.

So, either there was nothing in the post you *could* address, or yes,
one might consider you to be "nitpicking".

If you find it to not be a true question, rather it is a stylist
gesture, feel free to not answer.

I have no problem in obtaining answers from others. You are the only
one that seems lost. No, that suggests it is not me.

Except that most of ther sentences ending with a "?" look more like =
statements, than question. Here's a hint; most questions (98%) begin =
with "How, What, When, Where, Who, and Why".

"Michael" wrote in message =
...
On 10/9/2004 2:15 PM, Phil McCracken wrote:
Michael wrote:
=20
On 10/9/2004 10:58 AM, Colin Barnhorst wrote:

With a new computer and newly installed copy of XP you should have =
no=20
problems with installation of SP2. The majority of problems appear =

to be on poorly maintained machines. I suggest you defragment the=20
hard drive (a desirable thing to do following installations), but=20
other than that, as Nike says, 'just do it.'



Thanks----more questions though....further down---

Though not needed, I defrag at the end of he day...it zaps through=20
several large partitions in a flash. On the other hand? XP didn't=20
accept the version of Diskeeper I use on W2k....? That version seem =

to be more particular, that is the MS version is either very fast or =

Diskeeper "does more?". Am I missing something...the XP defrag is=20
rather basic----are there any options?



Actualy, I only used FP as I had a contrac with ATT and 90+% of the=20
sites were on FP servers---as my own, which has been dormant.

I spoke to may host about changing it, I don't have many FP =
extentions=20
to remove, so I'll probably bail on the FP server. I've been using=20
more current editors for years.

An added concern? When I was having difficuty with XP (I also=20
dual-boot w/W2k)? One person issued a not to subtle threat to the=20
effect: I can't wait til you try to install SP2? Why would W2k =
enter=20
into the equation (its SP4)?
=
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^=
^^^^^^=20

I wrote back that I'd booted W2k with Dos, NT, 95 9, and SE---no =
prob?=20
I do have a DOS partition, XP, and W2k follow.

Without reading? Is it a standard SP install where one can designate =
a=20
partition to "store" the setup? While I do have 900 meg of space in =

the XP partition, I may want to keep it around for a few days if =
there=20
is a problem.

Curious? Who so much space if the whole package is under 300 meg?

Also, my XP is very current---I have the new Media Player and again =
do=20
not use IE6, OE and my firewall is better than the MS version---I =
have=20
good spam blocking, anti-popup, antispy, AV....

!!!If I am only missing the final KB...can someone be concise and =
let=20
me know my benefits? I realize we only hear the bad news here? =
Then=20
again, my stories have not been explained (XP repair gave me a fresh =

install---twice?). (Not to mention that I went in and out of the=20
Activation routine---and never did activate?!)

If you were me, I believe you might be a bit wary as well?
=20
=20
You might want to try asking concise questions using complete =
sentences=20
and standard punctuation. This is not a nitpicking dig--it's very =
hard=20
to determine exactly what you're asking.
Or, you didn't have any answers.
=20
A hint (when you see this at the end of a sentence [?]. That means I'm =

asking a question.
=20
It really isn't to tough, Phil. If you're reading and see that symbol, =

work backwork, as the words before one of these [?] is probably a clue =

that I need an answer.
=20
So, either there was nothing in the post you *could* address, or yes,=20
one might consider you to be "nitpicking".
=20
If you find it to not be a true question, rather it is a stylist=20
gesture, feel free to not answer.
=20
I have no problem in obtaining answers from others. You are the only=20
one that seems lost. No, that suggests it is not me.

Michael wrote:

On 10/9/2004 2:15 PM, Phil McCracken wrote:

Michael wrote:

On 10/9/2004 10:58 AM, Colin Barnhorst wrote:

With a new computer and newly installed copy of XP you should have
no problems with installation of SP2. The majority of problems
appear to be on poorly maintained machines. I suggest you
defragment the hard drive (a desirable thing to do following
installations), but other than that, as Nike says, 'just do it.'




Thanks----more questions though....further down---

Though not needed, I defrag at the end of he day...it zaps through
several large partitions in a flash. On the other hand? XP didn't
accept the version of Diskeeper I use on W2k....? That version seem
to be more particular, that is the MS version is either very fast or
Diskeeper "does more?". Am I missing something...the XP defrag is
rather basic----are there any options?



Actualy, I only used FP as I had a contrac with ATT and 90+% of the
sites were on FP servers---as my own, which has been dormant.

I spoke to may host about changing it, I don't have many FP
extentions to remove, so I'll probably bail on the FP server. I've
been using more current editors for years.

An added concern? When I was having difficuty with XP (I also
dual-boot w/W2k)? One person issued a not to subtle threat to the
effect: I can't wait til you try to install SP2? Why would W2k enter
into the equation (its SP4)?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I wrote back that I'd booted W2k with Dos, NT, 95 9, and SE---no
prob? I do have a DOS partition, XP, and W2k follow.

Without reading? Is it a standard SP install where one can designate
a partition to "store" the setup? While I do have 900 meg of space
in the XP partition, I may want to keep it around for a few days if
there is a problem.

Curious? Who so much space if the whole package is under 300 meg?

Also, my XP is very current---I have the new Media Player and again
do not use IE6, OE and my firewall is better than the MS version---I
have good spam blocking, anti-popup, antispy, AV....

!!!If I am only missing the final KB...can someone be concise and let
me know my benefits? I realize we only hear the bad news here? Then
again, my stories have not been explained (XP repair gave me a fresh
install---twice?). (Not to mention that I went in and out of the
Activation routine---and never did activate?!)

If you were me, I believe you might be a bit wary as well?



You might want to try asking concise questions using complete
sentences and standard punctuation. This is not a nitpicking dig--it's
very hard to determine exactly what you're asking.

Or, you didn't have any answers.

A hint (when you see this at the end of a sentence [?]. That means I'm
asking a question.

It really isn't to tough, Phil. If you're reading and see that symbol,
work backwork, as the words before one of these [?] is probably a clue
that I need an answer.

So, either there was nothing in the post you *could* address, or yes,
one might consider you to be "nitpicking".

If you find it to not be a true question, rather it is a stylist
gesture, feel free to not answer.

I have no problem in obtaining answers from others. You are the only
one that seems lost. No, that suggests it is not me.

Look, Mike, you don't know (or don't care about) the difference between
"to" and "too." It's a simple fact of life: If you are asking for help,
there's some obligation on your part to ask for it clearly and
unambiguously, and not whine when someone asks politely for
clarification. I had problems with an SP2 installation and *might* be
able to help. I can't give an answer, though, if I don't know what the
question is.

On 10/9/2004 6:55 PM, Tom wrote:

Except that most of ther sentences ending with a "?" look more like statements, than question. Here's a hint; most questions (98%) begin with "How, What, When, Where, Who, and Why".


How's this Tom?

1. I dual boot w. W2k. One person issued a not to subtle threat to the
effect: I can't wait til you try to install SP2? Why would W2k enter
into the equation? (it has SP4)

2. I wrote back that I'd booted W2k with Dos, NT, 95 9, and SE---no
prob--Was that an empty threat? (My setup has a DOS partition, XP,
and W2k follows.)

3.Is it a standard SP install where one can designate a partition to
"store" the setup?

4. Who is so much space necessary for SP install (900 meg) if the whole
package is under 300 meg?

5. Does it really take two hours?

6. My XP is very current---I have the new Media Player and do
not use IE6, OE and my firewall is better than the MS version---I
have good spam blocking, anti-popup, antispy, AV....What is SP2
giving me that I'm missing?

7. If I am *only* missing the final KB...can someone be concise and
let me know my benefits? Name five?

8. I realize we only hear the bad news here. Then again, my stories
have not been explained (XP repair gave me a fresh install---twice?).
(Not to mention that I went in and out of the Activation routine---
and never needed to re-activate?!)
What are the top 3 risks and consequenses one faces with SP2?

There ya go, buddy. Questions that dependon on one's point of
view--but question. I'm here to *not* get the standard company line.
Unless one beieves the the Man is never wrong...which would require a
leap of faith.

--
Lead, follow or get of of the way.

I'll help you if I can.

If you don't have a solution? I don't want to hear from you.

"Michael" wrote in message =
...

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There ya go, buddy. Questions that dependon on one's point of
view--but question. I'm here to *not* get the standard company line.=20
Unless one beieves the the Man is never wrong...which would require a=20
leap of faith.

Well, you back pedaled now! Look, if you're going to complain about not =
asking literal questions by making statements that you did, by simply =
ending them with your own meaning of corresponding symbols, you =
shouldn't expect to have the respondent comply to your usage of curved =
English.


Lead, follow or get of of the way.

Ask, don't complain, or don't bother!

=20
I'll help you if I can.

Is that a statement or a question, could be either using your standards?

=20
If you don't have a solution? I don't want to hear from you.
=20

If you don't have a REAL question, don't ask for solutions!