What is Windows 10 Fall Creators Update? Everything you need to knowabout Microsoft's big upgrade

Rolling out from the 17th October, the ​Windows 10 Fall Creators Update
promises to deliver new features big and small to Windows desktops.
By Nick Heath | October 11, 2017, 9:10 AM PST

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/...ts-big-upgrade

The fourth major update to Windows 10 is almost here, promising to
deliver new features big and small to Windows desktops.

Rolling out from the 17th October, the headline features in the free
Fall Creators Update are changes to how Windows 10 handles cloud
storage, easier sharing with friends and family, better security, longer
battery life and a more-intuitive design for the OS and its apps.

As with previous updates, however, don't expect massive leaps forward,
more general tinkering around the edges.

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David B.

He who is David_B said on Fri, 13 Oct 2017 09:15:09 +0100:

As with previous updates, however, don't expect massive leaps forward,

I don't fault you, but I didn't see anything concrete in that listing worth
even the bother of the backup before the update, let alone the update.

Changes to "x" and better "y" is essentially meaningless, for example.

On 2017-10-13, David_B wrote:
Rolling out from the 17th October, the ​Windows 10 Fall Creators Update
promises to deliver new features big and small to Windows desktops.
By Nick Heath | October 11, 2017, 9:10 AM PST


I have to wonder what fresh new hell this is going to be.

I recently had to do a fresh install of Windows 10 on a Dell PC due to
hard drive failure. (Factory SSD went belly up just out of warranty.)
So I used the Media Creation Tool to get make a current installation
thumb drive.

When Cortana started blabbing at me from the damned computer and wanting
to learn my voice (which I do not recall it doing with earlier Windows
10 installations) I wanted to thrown the whole mess down the stairs.
Get out of my face, Cortana. WTF, I just need to install the damned
operating system and don't need or want all the extraneous crap and fluff.

The amount of crap you have to turn off to make Windows 10 palatable
in a business environment just keeps getting worse with each "exciting
new update." (Though to give the devil his due I do appreciate finally
having some control over updates in recent iterations of Win10 Pro.)

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Roger Blake wrote:


When Cortana started blabbing at me from the damned computer and wanting
to learn my voice (which I do not recall it doing with earlier Windows
10 installations) I wanted to thrown the whole mess down the stairs.
Get out of my face, Cortana. WTF, I just need to install the damned
operating system and don't need or want all the extraneous crap and fluff.


There's an icon you can click in that section of the
installer, to stop the blabbing. I wasn't able to find
a picture. It might look like a microphone icon.

On my first install, I let it blabber away.

On my second install, I managed to turn it off. And that
was much better.

Paul

On 2017-10-14, Paul wrote:
There's an icon you can click in that section of the
installer, to stop the blabbing. I wasn't able to find
a picture. It might look like a microphone icon.

I did find that. I'm just getting very tired of the ever-increasing
amount of Win10 garbage that needs to be turned off, now starting with
initial setup of the base operating system.

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On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 03:58:41 -0000 (UTC), Roger Blake
wrote:

On 2017-10-13, David_B wrote:
Rolling out from the 17th October, the ?Windows 10 Fall Creators Update
promises to deliver new features big and small to Windows desktops.
By Nick Heath | October 11, 2017, 9:10 AM PST


I have to wonder what fresh new hell this is going to be.

I recently had to do a fresh install of Windows 10 on a Dell PC due to
hard drive failure. (Factory SSD went belly up just out of warranty.)
So I used the Media Creation Tool to get make a current installation
thumb drive.

When Cortana started blabbing at me from the damned computer and wanting
to learn my voice (which I do not recall it doing with earlier Windows
10 installations) I wanted to thrown the whole mess down the stairs.
Get out of my face, Cortana. WTF, I just need to install the damned
operating system and don't need or want all the extraneous crap and fluff.

If you install Winaero Tweaker you can disable Cortana.

Start Winaero Tweaker and enter "disable Cortana" in the search box
(you don't need the quotes).

The amount of crap you have to turn off to make Windows 10 palatable
in a business environment just keeps getting worse with each "exciting
new update." (Though to give the devil his due I do appreciate finally
having some control over updates in recent iterations of Win10 Pro.)

You might do yourself a favor by installing the MVPS Hosts file. You
can do your own research for that task.

He who is Monty said on Sat, 14 Oct 2017 16:51:24 +1100:

If you install Winaero Tweaker you can disable Cortana.

Start Winaero Tweaker and enter "disable Cortana" in the search box
(you don't need the quotes).

Thanks for that tip as I had manually turned off all the Cortana buttons in
Windows 10 Pro myself (which seemed to work) but if clicking this one
button in Winaero Tweaker does the same thing, that's a neat trick.

WinAero: Windows Apps Disable Cortana [x]Disable Cortana
http://wetakepic.com/images/2017/10/14/disable_cortana2.jpg

Not surprisingly, it requires a reboot, but it allows you to do it later.
http://wetakepic.com/images/2017/10/14/disable_cortana.jpg

The amount of crap you have to turn off to make Windows 10 palatable
in a business environment just keeps getting worse with each "exciting
new update." (Though to give the devil his due I do appreciate finally
having some control over updates in recent iterations of Win10 Pro.)

You might do yourself a favor by installing the MVPS Hosts file. You
can do your own research for that task.

The MVP hosts file is great.
MVP Hosts http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm

But does the MVP Hosts file inherently contain the "block cortana" stuff?

As a related aside, Mayayana loves the asterisk feature of Acrylic:
Acrylic DNS https://sourceforge.net/projects/acrylic/

On 10/14/2017 7:22 AM, KenW wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 04:51:56 -0000 (UTC), Roger Blake
wrote:

On 2017-10-14, Paul wrote:
There's an icon you can click in that section of the
installer, to stop the blabbing. I wasn't able to find
a picture. It might look like a microphone icon.

I did find that. I'm just getting very tired of the ever-increasing
amount of Win10 garbage that needs to be turned off, now starting with
initial setup of the base operating system.

At least with the Pro version, you can turn the bitch off. Wonder when
MS will screw up Pro ?


KenW

With all of the fancy additions to Windows 10 there are some that I have
never openned ie 3D paint. I have absolutely no need for any of them.

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Monty wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 03:58:41 -0000 (UTC), Roger Blake
wrote:

On 2017-10-13, David_B wrote:
Rolling out from the 17th October, the ?Windows 10 Fall Creators Update
promises to deliver new features big and small to Windows desktops.
By Nick Heath | October 11, 2017, 9:10 AM PST


I have to wonder what fresh new hell this is going to be.

I recently had to do a fresh install of Windows 10 on a Dell PC due to
hard drive failure. (Factory SSD went belly up just out of warranty.)
So I used the Media Creation Tool to get make a current installation
thumb drive.

When Cortana started blabbing at me from the damned computer and wanting
to learn my voice (which I do not recall it doing with earlier Windows
10 installations) I wanted to thrown the whole mess down the stairs.
Get out of my face, Cortana. WTF, I just need to install the damned
operating system and don't need or want all the extraneous crap and fluff.

If you install Winaero Tweaker you can disable Cortana.

Start Winaero Tweaker and enter "disable Cortana" in the search box
(you don't need the quotes).

The amount of crap you have to turn off to make Windows 10 palatable
in a business environment just keeps getting worse with each "exciting
new update." (Though to give the devil his due I do appreciate finally
having some control over updates in recent iterations of Win10 Pro.)

You might do yourself a favor by installing the MVPS Hosts file. You
can do your own research for that task.



Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
;; DisableCortana.reg
;; Disable Cortana and set to local Windows Search
;; MS removed the removed the option in 1703

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Win dows\Windows Search]
"AllowCortana"=dword:00000000

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Jonathan
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LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

On 2017-10-14, Monty wrote:
Start Winaero Tweaker and enter "disable Cortana" in the search box
(you don't need the quotes).

You might do yourself a favor by installing the MVPS Hosts file. You
can do your own research for that task.

Thanks for the tips! I'm still ticked off though at having to waste my
time dealing with this garbage which should not be there in the first place,
at least not in the "Pro" version used by businesses. It's a shame because
Win10 definitely has its good points but it seems like you have to wade
through a cesspool to get to them.

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On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 10:12:50 +0000 (UTC), harry newton
wrote:

He who is Monty said on Sat, 14 Oct 2017 16:51:24 +1100:

If you install Winaero Tweaker you can disable Cortana.

Start Winaero Tweaker and enter "disable Cortana" in the search box
(you don't need the quotes).

Thanks for that tip as I had manually turned off all the Cortana buttons in
Windows 10 Pro myself (which seemed to work) but if clicking this one
button in Winaero Tweaker does the same thing, that's a neat trick.

WinAero: Windows Apps Disable Cortana [x]Disable Cortana
http://wetakepic.com/images/2017/10/14/disable_cortana2.jpg

Not surprisingly, it requires a reboot, but it allows you to do it later.
http://wetakepic.com/images/2017/10/14/disable_cortana.jpg

The amount of crap you have to turn off to make Windows 10 palatable
in a business environment just keeps getting worse with each "exciting
new update." (Though to give the devil his due I do appreciate finally
having some control over updates in recent iterations of Win10 Pro.)

You might do yourself a favor by installing the MVPS Hosts file. You
can do your own research for that task.

The MVP hosts file is great.
MVP Hosts http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm

But does the MVP Hosts file inherently contain the "block cortana" stuff?

As a related aside, Mayayana loves the asterisk feature of Acrylic:
Acrylic DNS https://sourceforge.net/projects/acrylic/

That is why gpedit.msc is in Pro. To kill dumb stuff.


KenW

On 2017-10-14, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
;; DisableCortana.reg
;; Disable Cortana and set to local Windows Search
;; MS removed the removed the option in 1703

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Win dows\Windows Search]
"AllowCortana"=dword:00000000

Cool, I think that's one of the registry tweaks used by programs like O&O
ShutUp10 and Spybot Anti-beacon. Of course that doesn't stop Cortana
from mouthing off during initial setup, particularly on a laptop or
all-in-one with built-in speakers. (I know you can turn it off with
a click but I'd rather not hear her spouting off to begin with even
for a few seconds.)

I also need to check if there are group policy settings to disable all
the stuff in Privacy settings system-wide. Through the built-in GUI many
of the settings are per-user and it becomes a PITA on PCs with multiple
users to keep it all turned off that way.

Really the Win10 Pro version should come with all this crap disabled by
default. I can't think of a single good reason for burdening businesses
and system administrators with any of it. (Maybe it just takes a few
minutes to go in and disable the most egregious garbage, but it's a moving
target you need to keep on top of. Multiply that by millions of Win10 PCs
being deployed and how much total time is being wasted on this stuff?)

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He who is KenW said on Sat, 14 Oct 2017 10:15:27 -0600:

As a related aside, Mayayana loves the asterisk feature of Acrylic:
Acrylic DNS https://sourceforge.net/projects/acrylic/

That is why gpedit.msc is in Pro. To kill dumb stuff.

I didn't understand the connection, so I tried it:
Start Run gpedit.msc

This brought up the "Local Group Policy Editor" of which I'm ignorant.

Most of my stuff was empty.
http://wetakepic.com/images/2017/10/14/lgpe.jpg

I guess there's a lot for me to learn here!
Group Policy For Beginners
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh147307(v=ws.10).aspx

He who is Roger Blake said on Sat, 14 Oct 2017 16:11:17 -0000 (UTC):

You might do yourself a favor by installing the MVPS Hosts file. You
can do your own research for that task.

Thanks for the tips! I'm still ticked off though at having to waste my
time dealing with this garbage which should not be there in the first place,
at least not in the "Pro" version used by businesses. It's a shame because
Win10 definitely has its good points but it seems like you have to wade
through a cesspool to get to them.

Might I bluntly and openly ask how the heck is the MVP Hosts file supposed
to help with blocking Cortana?

Does it contain cortana-specific hosts?

He who is Jonathan N. Little said on Sat, 14 Oct 2017 09:49:49 -0400:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
;; DisableCortana.reg
;; Disable Cortana and set to local Windows Search
;; MS removed the removed the option in 1703

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Win dows\Windows Search]
"AllowCortana"=dword:00000000

May I ask bluntly if this admittedly neat trick does something that I
didn't already just do with the WinAero tweak to turn off Cortana?
http://wetakepic.com/images/2017/10/14/disable_cortana2.jpg

I get the power of having the registry edited manually with a set of text
tweaks saved in a directory - so I'm not dissing the tweak.

I'm just asking if this tweak above and the Winaero tweak accomplish the
same result or not.