"Dear Microsoft: Please stop breaking my perfectly good Windows 7"

On 2015-10-28 6:22 PM, Linux User wrote:
Yahhh! We are using ubuntu now and it is wonderful.

ROFL!

I tried Ubuntu and Ubuntu GNOME 15.10's live CD on this MSI GT72 laptop
of mine; it wouldn't even boot to the desktop whether I used the GTX
970M or the Intel HD 4600 on the machine. That's Linux quality right there.


--
Charmed Tuna

Charmed Tuna wrote:
On 2015-10-28 6:22 PM, Linux User wrote:
Yahhh! We are using ubuntu now and it is wonderful.

ROFL!

I tried Ubuntu and Ubuntu GNOME 15.10's live CD on this MSI GT72 laptop
of mine; it wouldn't even boot to the desktop whether I used the GTX
970M or the Intel HD 4600 on the machine. That's Linux quality right there.



A machine with Optimus (video architecture, two GPUs, gamer GPU
takes over for heavy 3D acceleration) is difficult both on
Windows and Linux. Example of a recipe, here.

https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee

( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2296761 )

You can suffer just as much misery in Windows. For example,
when Win10 came out, Optimus laptops were one of the things
"blocked" from getting the free Win10 update.

Paul

Charmed Tuna wrote on 10/28/2015 8:17 PM:
On 2015-10-28 6:22 PM, Linux User wrote:
Yahhh! We are using ubuntu now and it is wonderful.

ROFL!

I tried Ubuntu and Ubuntu GNOME 15.10's live CD on this MSI GT72 laptop
of mine; it wouldn't even boot to the desktop whether I used the GTX
970M or the Intel HD 4600 on the machine. That's Linux quality right there.



I'm a market-share as well as a technology kinda guy. Well, and
usability and supportability advocate. Linux? No, don't think so in
any aspect. Tried it, used it, unimpressed. Techie (which I like!) but
impenetrable (which, for my supported users, a dead deal.).

It's a niche market as the penetration has proven over the last ten or
more years. Have fun all you users but it'll NEVER be mainstream. It's
been around for, what? ten? Fifteen years? And it's where,
market-share wise? Nowhere.

Call any (major or minor) PC manufacturer and ask them what the
overwhelming percentage of OS's they install on new machines. It's Windows.

Apple is a distant second. Linux? Is anyone installing Linux in any
significant numbers as a default?

No.

Wal-Mart toyed with it for a brief time. Well, that didn't make them any
money so they stopped.

Hey, if you like playing with it? I'm all supportive of your
experiment. Just don't think you are mainstream. You're not.

And whenever I see, in any usenet group, a message subject that includes
"Linux" I mark it as "read" and move one.

--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net/
Evening news is where they begin with 'Good evening', and then proceed
to tell you why it isn't.

-= Hawk =- wrote on 10/28/2015 2:14 PM:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 02:13:40 -0400, "Andy" scribbled:

Belongs in alt.windows7.general news group not windows 10 this is for
windows 10 posts only
thank you

And how the hell do you plan on enforcing this imaginary power you do
not have, ****tard? Just shut the **** up and mop a floor somewhere.

Wow. that just ensured I'll ignore you forever.

--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net/
Everybody repeat after me ...We are all individuals.

On 2015-10-27 1:23 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
"Dear Microsoft: Please stop breaking my perfectly good Windows 7"

http://www.zdnet.com/article/dear-mi...ood-windows-7/


Amen!

Lynn

I think I have found a solution. Win10 is the natural OS platform on
modern powerful equipment. I installed Oracle VirtualBox on my Win10
device. On that I installed WinXP and all shorts of great software.
WinXP is great on Win10.

On 29/10/2015 03:44, Norm X wrote:
WinXP is great on Win10.


You are a very clever little stupid nutter around here. Stan Brown and
Canadian "Small boys" abuser would be proud of you.

On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 13:28:22 -0400, Big Al wrote
in

I've turned off most if not all the telemetry I can find and don't need. Which is probably 100%. :-)

Are you using ShutUp10?
http://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
--
Web based forums are like subscribing to 10 different newspapers
and having to visit 10 different news stands to pickup each one.
Email list-server groups and USENET are like having all of those
newspapers delivered to your door every morning.

I'll correct a miss poster's post and give the proper news group any time i
wish.


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AL'S COMPUTERS
"-= Hawk =-" wrote in message
web.com...
On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 02:13:40 -0400, "Andy" scribbled:

Belongs in alt.windows7.general news group not windows 10 this is for
windows 10 posts only
thank you

And how the hell do you plan on enforcing this imaginary power you do
not have, ****tard? Just shut the **** up and mop a floor somewhere.

--
'What Profiteth It A Kingdom If The Oxen Be Deflated?'
Riddles II, v3
- T. Pratchett

He is one of the oldest trolls in any news group be it windows road runner
ect you name it.


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AL'S COMPUTERS
"Ed Mullen" wrote in message
...
-= Hawk =- wrote on 10/28/2015 2:14 PM:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 02:13:40 -0400, "Andy" scribbled:

Belongs in alt.windows7.general news group not windows 10 this is for
windows 10 posts only
thank you

And how the hell do you plan on enforcing this imaginary power you do
not have, ****tard? Just shut the **** up and mop a floor somewhere.

Wow. that just ensured I'll ignore you forever.

--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net/
Everybody repeat after me ...We are all individuals.

Says a women who can hardly even fix her own stuff


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AL'S COMPUTERS
"Char Jackson" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 02:13:40 -0400, "Andy" wrote:

Belongs in alt.windows7.general news group not windows 10 this is for
windows 10 posts only
thank you

I see that someone forgot to lock the office at the mall again.

You do realize you can run windows xp or windows 7 ect in a Vm environment.


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AL'S COMPUTERS
"Good Guy" wrote in message ...
On 29/10/2015 03:44, Norm X wrote:

WinXP is great on Win10.



You are a very clever little stupid nutter around here. Stan Brown and Canadian "Small boys" abuser would be proud of you.

On 10/28/2015 11:22 PM, CRNG wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 13:28:22 -0400, Big Al wrote
in

I've turned off most if not all the telemetry I can find and don't need. Which is probably 100%. :-)

Are you using ShutUp10?
http://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

Does that modify the hosts file? It's very easy to do/undo.
http://www.sysprobs.com/how-to-edit-...-windows-8-1-8
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r302...s-to-host-file
https://www.astaro.org/gateway-produ...10-spying.html

Mike S wrote:
On 10/28/2015 11:22 PM, CRNG wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 13:28:22 -0400, Big Al wrote
in

I've turned off most if not all the telemetry I can find and don't
need. Which is probably 100%. :-)

Are you using ShutUp10?
http://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

Does that modify the hosts file? It's very easy to do/undo.
http://www.sysprobs.com/how-to-edit-...-windows-8-1-8
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r302...s-to-host-file

https://www.astaro.org/gateway-produ...10-spying.html

It should not need to modify the HOSTS file.

Many of those settings just adjust something
in the Registry.

The problem with HOSTS, is the OS has a list of
whitelisted sites you cannot stop with HOSTS. So
it's rather pointless to try to use the HOSTS
file to stop Microsoft. HOSTS might be perfectly
adequate to stop DoubleClick or Facebook. But Microsoft
made sure a trivial setting in HOSTS will not
prevent the "Microsoft mission".

Paul

On 2015-10-28 10:32 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:
Charmed Tuna wrote on 10/28/2015 8:17 PM:
On 2015-10-28 6:22 PM, Linux User wrote:
Yahhh! We are using ubuntu now and it is wonderful.

ROFL!

I tried Ubuntu and Ubuntu GNOME 15.10's live CD on this MSI GT72 laptop
of mine; it wouldn't even boot to the desktop whether I used the GTX
970M or the Intel HD 4600 on the machine. That's Linux quality right
there.



I'm a market-share as well as a technology kinda guy. Well, and
usability and supportability advocate. Linux? No, don't think so in
any aspect. Tried it, used it, unimpressed. Techie (which I like!) but
impenetrable (which, for my supported users, a dead deal.).

It's a niche market as the penetration has proven over the last ten or
more years. Have fun all you users but it'll NEVER be mainstream. It's
been around for, what? ten? Fifteen years? And it's where,
market-share wise? Nowhere.

It's been around for longer than that. I believe that the first Linux
distributions appeared in 1992. I remember trying it out in 1994 myself.

Call any (major or minor) PC manufacturer and ask them what the
overwhelming percentage of OS's they install on new machines. It's
Windows.

Apple is a distant second. Linux? Is anyone installing Linux in any
significant numbers as a default?

No.

The Linux advocates will tell you that it's on most of the servers on
the Internet. In reality, Windows and Linux are on about the same
amount. I believe that the last numbers were 34% for Linux and 32% for
Windows.

Wal-Mart toyed with it for a brief time. Well, that didn't make them any
money so they stopped.

Hey, if you like playing with it? I'm all supportive of your
experiment. Just don't think you are mainstream. You're not.

And whenever I see, in any usenet group, a message subject that includes
"Linux" I mark it as "read" and move one.

As you should. I don't mind supporting free software projects myself but
a whole operating system made of free software, so far, has been disastrous.

--
Charmed Tuna

On 2015-10-29 8:37 AM, David Hume wrote:
Charmed Tuna writes:


As you should. I don't mind supporting free software projects myself but
a whole operating system made of free software, so far, has been disastrous.

When you say free, do you mean free or open? Not that it matters
much. Anyway, I use opensuse every day for pretty much anything I want
to do. The only way anyone could describe it as a disaster is if he had
never used it and didn't know anything about it.

I know very well how Linux works and can operate in a number of
distributions without problems... as long as they work. Nowadays, it
seems that fewer and fewer actually work properly. It might be because
this laptop makes use of UEFI, but it shouldn't be a problem at all.

As for free vs. open, I prefer to use the term free. Open suggests that
it shares the code but isn't necessarily free of charge whereas the term
free indicates a freedom to use, share, modify and copy. Linux is free
software.

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Charmed Tuna