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OT: Scripts - can anyone here understand what this one might'do'?
On 16/05/2018 16:15, Auric__ wrote:
David B. wrote: On 15/05/2018 17:26, Auric__ wrote: David B. wrote: [snip] Personally, I would leave this script where you found it, as-is. It doesn't do anything bothersome, and for all you know, something important might miss it. *Too late now*! As long as the system is booting, it's not too late. That's what I think too! ;-) but although I deleted the item found by 'KnockKnock' I STILL have the rc.common file on my machine! It's possible that something in the system recreates it if it's deleted. But since you have the entire contents of the script already (in your post on bleepingcomputer), you could always recreate it using that. I also enquired he https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topi...k-my-question/ I've sent a private message to 'treed' - he's the Apple man who developed the software purchased by Malwarebytes for scanning Mac computers. He should know if anyone does! I have that file on both my MacBook (El Capitan, 10.11) and my iMac (Snow Leopard, 10.6). I didn't create either copy; I assume it was installed with the system. Have you tried KnockKnock? If so, with what result? I'm 99.99% certain that it will not harm your computers. https://objective-see.com/products/knockknock.html [snip] I'm not trying to become a 'techie', I'm just curious about things which don't appear logical when I turn over a few stones. I'm also intrigued when some folk become exasperated by my questions instead of simply answering them or, alternatively, ignore them! I'd recommend against deleting files in "system" locations (and /etc very definitely counts as one of those) if you don't know what their purpose is. You didn't do any damage this time, but next time might result in an unbootable system, and Mac repairs aren't cheap. I appreciate your concern and thank you once again for your help. :-) -- David B. |
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OT: Scripts - can anyone here understand what this one might'do'?
On 16/05/2018 16:33, nospam wrote:
In article 23, Auric__ wrote: I'm not trying to become a 'techie', I'm just curious about things which don't appear logical when I turn over a few stones. I'm also intrigued when some folk become exasperated by my questions instead of simply answering them or, alternatively, ignore them! I'd recommend against deleting files in "system" locations (and /etc very definitely counts as one of those) if you don't know what their purpose is. You didn't do any damage this time, actually, he did, but he doesn't realize it. Explain WHAT damage you claim I have done to my iMac but next time might result in an unbootable system, and Mac repairs aren't cheap. fixing an unbootable system is simply reinstall, which is cheap, as in free. deleting system related files will not cause hardware damage. I agree - I don't believe my computer has been damaged in ANY way. -- David B. |
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OT: Scripts - can anyone here understand what this one might 'do'?
In article , Paul
wrote: My old Mac at least, came with a re-install DVD. I copied that to an .iso file with Imgburn or similar, and this is what I can see in there right now with 7ZIP (that's why I keep copies of DVDs on my hard drive, for this sort of exercise). I opened the file with WordPad for a look (as it does a good job on line terminations), just to see it's the same file. https://s31.postimg.cc/szw904vt7/whe..._rc_common.gif 10.2??? yikes. |
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OT: Scripts - can anyone here understand what this one might 'do'?
In article , David B.
wrote: Have you tried KnockKnock? If so, with what result? I'm 99.99% certain that it will not harm your computers. it will when you don't understand what it does and end up removing stuff you shouldn't. |
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OT: Scripts - can anyone here understand what this one might 'do'?
In article , David B.
wrote: I'm not trying to become a 'techie', I'm just curious about things which don't appear logical when I turn over a few stones. I'm also intrigued when some folk become exasperated by my questions instead of simply answering them or, alternatively, ignore them! I'd recommend against deleting files in "system" locations (and /etc very definitely counts as one of those) if you don't know what their purpose is. You didn't do any damage this time, actually, he did, but he doesn't realize it. Explain WHAT damage you claim I have done to my iMac obviously not enough, because you're still online. but next time might result in an unbootable system, and Mac repairs aren't cheap. fixing an unbootable system is simply reinstall, which is cheap, as in free. deleting system related files will not cause hardware damage. I agree - I don't believe my computer has been damaged in ANY way. you believe a lot of things, few of which have any relation to reality. |
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OT: Scripts - can anyone here understand what this one might'do'?
nospam wrote:
In article , Paul wrote: My old Mac at least, came with a re-install DVD. I copied that to an .iso file with Imgburn or similar, and this is what I can see in there right now with 7ZIP (that's why I keep copies of DVDs on my hard drive, for this sort of exercise). I opened the file with WordPad for a look (as it does a good job on line terminations), just to see it's the same file. https://s31.postimg.cc/szw904vt7/whe..._rc_common.gif 10.2??? yikes. I work with the materials I own. And even though the disc is old, it still shows the file in question. Which suggests the file probably isn't even used, and is presented like a bowling trophy. The purpose of me doing that, is to demonstrate to the OP how you go about using your "materials on hand" to good effect. If you look hard enough, you will likely find a copy on the disc. Even if you have to burrow into a zipped archive. (A naive search won't find it, you have to use your nose.) Paul |
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OT: Scripts - can anyone here understand what this one might 'do'?
In article , Paul
wrote: My old Mac at least, came with a re-install DVD. I copied that to an .iso file with Imgburn or similar, and this is what I can see in there right now with 7ZIP (that's why I keep copies of DVDs on my hard drive, for this sort of exercise). I opened the file with WordPad for a look (as it does a good job on line terminations), just to see it's the same file. https://s31.postimg.cc/szw904vt7/whe..._rc_common.gif 10.2??? yikes. I work with the materials I own. And even though the disc is old, it still shows the file in question. because it's part of the unix layer. Which suggests the file probably isn't even used, and is presented like a bowling trophy. it's used. The purpose of me doing that, is to demonstrate to the OP how you go about using your "materials on hand" to good effect. If you look hard enough, you will likely find a copy on the disc. Even if you have to burrow into a zipped archive. (A naive search won't find it, you have to use your nose.) except that the original poster is not interested in what it actually does. |
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OT: Scripts - can anyone here understand what this one might 'do'?
David B. wrote:
I also enquired he https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topi...ter-place-to-a sk-my-question/ You really should pick a single forum to ask a question in. There's no real need to ask your question all over the place. Have you tried KnockKnock? No If so, with what result? I'm 99.99% certain that it will not harm your computers. https://objective-see.com/products/knockknock.html I imagine it's fine, but I'm not really interested in trying it. -- You deny me Freshmaker?!?!?!?!? |
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OT: Scripts - can anyone here understand what this one might'do'?
On 17/05/2018 08:36, Auric__ wrote:
David B. wrote: I also enquired he https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topi...ter-place-to-a sk-my-question/ You really should pick a single forum to ask a question in. There's no real need to ask your question all over the place. Point taken. Have you tried KnockKnock? No If so, with what result? I'm 99.99% certain that it will not harm your computers. https://objective-see.com/products/knockknock.html I imagine it's fine, but I'm not really interested in trying it. OK. No biggie. Have a grand day :-) -- David B. |
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OT: Scripts - can anyone here understand what this one might'do'?
On 17/05/2018 02:16, nospam wrote:
In article , Paul wrote: My old Mac at least, came with a re-install DVD. I copied that to an .iso file with Imgburn or similar, and this is what I can see in there right now with 7ZIP (that's why I keep copies of DVDs on my hard drive, for this sort of exercise). I opened the file with WordPad for a look (as it does a good job on line terminations), just to see it's the same file. https://s31.postimg.cc/szw904vt7/whe..._rc_common.gif 10.2??? yikes. I work with the materials I own. And even though the disc is old, it still shows the file in question. because it's part of the unix layer. Which suggests the file probably isn't even used, and is presented like a bowling trophy. it's used. What for? The purpose of me doing that, is to demonstrate to the OP how you go about using your "materials on hand" to good effect. If you look hard enough, you will likely find a copy on the disc. Even if you have to burrow into a zipped archive. (A naive search won't find it, you have to use your nose.) except that the original poster is not interested in what it actually does. Yes, I am. Sadly, YOU don't know the answer. shrug -- David B. |
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OT: Scripts - can anyone here understand what this one might 'do'?
In article , David B.
wrote: And even though the disc is old, it still shows the file in question. because it's part of the unix layer. Which suggests the file probably isn't even used, and is presented like a bowling trophy. it's used. What for? you've been told what for close to a dozen times so far (that i've seen), yet you keep asking the same question over and over again. The purpose of me doing that, is to demonstrate to the OP how you go about using your "materials on hand" to good effect. If you look hard enough, you will likely find a copy on the disc. Even if you have to burrow into a zipped archive. (A naive search won't find it, you have to use your nose.) except that the original poster is not interested in what it actually does. Yes, I am. no, you are very clearly not. if you were, you would not keep asking the same question over and over and over in multiple threads and in multiple groups, ignoring all answers given. Sadly, YOU don't know the answer. shrug oh yes i do. |
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OT: Scripts - can anyone here understand what this one might'do'?
On 17/05/2018 14:39, nospam wrote:
In article , David B. wrote: And even though the disc is old, it still shows the file in question. because it's part of the unix layer. Which suggests the file probably isn't even used, and is presented like a bowling trophy. it's used. What for? you've been told what for close to a dozen times so far (that i've seen), yet you keep asking the same question over and over again. I'm FAR more inclined to believe Paul than take YOUR false word. Please tell HIM what it's purpose is and we'll see if he believes you. The purpose of me doing that, is to demonstrate to the OP how you go about using your "materials on hand" to good effect. If you look hard enough, you will likely find a copy on the disc. Even if you have to burrow into a zipped archive. (A naive search won't find it, you have to use your nose.) except that the original poster is not interested in what it actually does. Yes, I am. no, you are very clearly not. You are wrong again. if you were, you would not keep asking the same question over and over and over in multiple threads and in multiple groups, ignoring all answers given. Perhaps those answers are being filtered out because I deleted the rogue copy of the file. Might that be it? Sadly, YOU don't know the answer. shrug oh yes i do. Really? Well then - Tell Paul and any other folk reading this thread. *Put your money where your mouth is*! -- David B. |
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OT: Scripts - can anyone here understand what this one might 'do'?
In article , David B.
wrote: The purpose of me doing that, is to demonstrate to the OP how you go about using your "materials on hand" to good effect. If you look hard enough, you will likely find a copy on the disc. Even if you have to burrow into a zipped archive. (A naive search won't find it, you have to use your nose.) except that the original poster is not interested in what it actually does. Yes, I am. no, you are very clearly not. You are wrong again. given that you've asked the same question nearly a dozen times (and no doubt plenty more on the various web forums you infest), ignoring any explanations given, i'm exactly correct. if you were, you would not keep asking the same question over and over and over in multiple threads and in multiple groups, ignoring all answers given. Perhaps those answers are being filtered out because I deleted the rogue copy of the file. Might that be it? no, that is not it. nothing is being filtered out. you've even responded to some of the answers, making it quite clear that nothing is being filtered out. in other words, you've just been caught lying again. Sadly, YOU don't know the answer. shrug oh yes i do. Really? Well then - Tell Paul and any other folk reading this thread. people in this newsgroup don't give a **** what a system file on a mac does, and the people in the mac groups already know you're a dumb**** troll. *Put your money where your mouth is*! how about you put a gun where your mouth is. |
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OT: Scripts - can anyone here understand what this one might'do'?
On 16/05/2018 15:45, nospam wrote:
In article , David B. wrote: fearing malware, he actually removed the script: I removed the script *identified by KnockKnock* as an unknown item. it's not an unknown item. it's a critical part of mac os. A good job I still have it then, even though I deleted the copy, eh?!!! The relevant REAL file is still installed and can still be found on my machine. It is NOT, though, found by KnockKnock when 'not including os/known items' is selected. not if you removed it, it isn't. I apparently removed a *COPY* I still don't understand why KnockKnock found the 'rogue' script which I deleted. I'm content now that I've investigated to some extent. :-) because knockknock and it's ilk are buggy. A bad workman often blames his tools! you also have zero knowledge of what's going on internally to understand what any such utility is actually telling you. You'd be amazed at how much I've learned by experimentation. -- David B. |
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OT: Scripts - can anyone here understand what this one might 'do'?
In article , David B.
wrote: fearing malware, he actually removed the script: I removed the script *identified by KnockKnock* as an unknown item. it's not an unknown item. it's a critical part of mac os. A good job I still have it then, even though I deleted the copy, eh?!!! bull****. changing your story so quickly? The relevant REAL file is still installed and can still be found on my machine. It is NOT, though, found by KnockKnock when 'not including os/known items' is selected. not if you removed it, it isn't. I apparently removed a *COPY* 'apparently'. you have absolutely no idea what you did or what you're doing. I still don't understand why KnockKnock found the 'rogue' script which I deleted. I'm content now that I've investigated to some extent. :-) because knockknock and it's ilk are buggy. A bad workman often blames his tools! a smart workman knows how the tools work internally, their limitations and what they are actually telling the user. a smart workman also knows the purpose of the file in question and why any tool that claims that such a file is malware is buggy crap. you also have zero knowledge of what's going on internally to understand what any such utility is actually telling you. You'd be amazed at how much I've learned by experimentation. no i wouldn't, because it's absolutely nothing. had you learned *anything*, you wouldn't repeatedly ask the *same* questions over and over and over and over again. |
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