Need Advice (System Restore and Backup)

Running XP Pro.
200GB HD#1 (C-E Partitions)
80GB HD#2 (S)
1GB RAM

I create a system restore point each week of "C" and System State.

I backup to S once a week "C" and System State.

My two main concerns are being able to keep the O/S viable and save 5GB
of music in case of a disaster. The music currently resides on the
second hard drive (S). I have all important files, etc on the
second hard drive (S). Both hard drives are less than six months old.

What would be the "ideal" method of being able to restore the O/S and
have the music files in tact in case of a hard drive (s) failure ??

TIA

That wastes a lot of space + resources with that schedule in place.Microsoft
techs dont use either method,the best way is to run the file transfer wizard
from xp cd,set as old computer,select files,settings for it to save,save
data in
a new folder you created,once the data is completed,move it to a cd and/or
youre 2nd hd.This way if xp or a hd fails,you run a fresh xp install,then
in xp
run the wizard,get updates and youre set......

"Lemmer" wrote:

Running XP Pro.
200GB HD#1 (C-E Partitions)
80GB HD#2 (S)
1GB RAM

I create a system restore point each week of "C" and System State.

I backup to S once a week "C" and System State.

My two main concerns are being able to keep the O/S viable and save 5GB
of music in case of a disaster. The music currently resides on the
second hard drive (S). I have all important files, etc on the
second hard drive (S). Both hard drives are less than six months old.

What would be the "ideal" method of being able to restore the O/S and
have the music files in tact in case of a hard drive (s) failure ??

TIA

All backups should be made to removable media.. tape drives and DVDs are
useful in this respect, or an external drive exclusively for back and only
powered up for either backup or recovery usage..

--
Mike Hall
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User



"Lemmer" wrote in message
m...
Running XP Pro.
200GB HD#1 (C-E Partitions)
80GB HD#2 (S)
1GB RAM

I create a system restore point each week of "C" and System State.

I backup to S once a week "C" and System State.

My two main concerns are being able to keep the O/S viable and save 5GB
of music in case of a disaster. The music currently resides on the
second hard drive (S). I have all important files, etc on the
second hard drive (S). Both hard drives are less than six months old.

What would be the "ideal" method of being able to restore the O/S and
have the music files in tact in case of a hard drive (s) failure ??

TIA

Andrew E. wrote:

That wastes a lot of space + resources with that schedule in

(snip Andrew's cr*p)

Troll Alert

Go away, Andrew. You are an idiot.

Malke
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ROFLMAO.. Tell him how you really feel, girl.. :-)

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"Malke" wrote in message
...
Andrew E. wrote:

That wastes a lot of space + resources with that schedule in

(snip Andrew's cr*p)

Troll Alert

Go away, Andrew. You are an idiot.

Malke
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Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User wrote:

ROFLMAO.. Tell him how you really feel, girl.. :-)


I can't. It would never make it past the filters. ;-)

Malke
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"Don't Panic!"
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Storing your backups on your computer is a bad idea. It is not really a
backup but a copy that is a convenience if something happens to a partition
other than where the copy is stored. You need a backup method that uses some
kind of external media. My recommendation is a USB drive large enough to
hold a couple of backups and a disk imaging program. I would also backup any
crucial data to DVD or CD.

--
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca/forum/Forum.htm


Lemmer wrote:
Running XP Pro.
200GB HD#1 (C-E Partitions)
80GB HD#2 (S)
1GB RAM

I create a system restore point each week of "C" and System State.

I backup to S once a week "C" and System State.

My two main concerns are being able to keep the O/S viable and save
5GB of music in case of a disaster. The music currently resides on
the second hard drive (S). I have all important files, etc on the
second hard drive (S). Both hard drives are less than six months old.

What would be the "ideal" method of being able to restore the O/S and
have the music files in tact in case of a hard drive (s) failure ??

TIA

Lemmer wrote:

Running XP Pro.
200GB HD#1 (C-E Partitions)
80GB HD#2 (S)
1GB RAM

I create a system restore point each week of "C" and System State.

I backup to S once a week "C" and System State.

My two main concerns are being able to keep the O/S viable and save
5GB of music in case of a disaster. The music currently resides on
the second hard drive (S). I have all important files, etc on the
second hard drive (S). Both hard drives are less than six months old.

What would be the "ideal" method of being able to restore the O/S and
have the music files in tact in case of a hard drive (s) failure ??


First, note that System Restore protects the operating system only. It does
nothing for your music files or any other data files.

Second, regardless of how old the drives are, or whether your data files are
separated on a second hard drive, if you don't have a strong backup regimen
in place, and don't backup to an external device, you are extremely
vulnerable to data loss. Here's my standard blurb on backup:

First of all, almost everyone should be backing up regularly. It is always
possible that a hard drive crash, user error, nearby lightning strike, virus
attack, even theft of the computer, can cause the loss of everything on your
drive. As has often been said, it's not a matter of whether you will have
such a problem, but when.

Essentially you should back up what you can't afford to lose--what you can't
readily recreate. What that is depends on how you use your computer and what
you use it for.

It takes time and effort to backup, but it also takes time and effort to
recreate lost data. If you back up daily, you should never have to recreate
more than one day's worth of last data. If weekly, there's potentially a lot
more to recreate. You should assess how much pain and trouble you would have
if you lost x days of data, and then choose a backup frequency that doesn't
involve more pain and trouble than that you would have if you had to
recreate what was lost.

Some things (photographs, for instance) can never be recreated, and more
frequent backup may be wanted for them.

At one extreme is the professional user who would likely go out of business
if his data was lost. He probably needs to back up at least daily. At the
other extreme is the kid who doesn't use his computer except to play games.
He probably needs no backup at all, since worst case he can easily reinstall
his games.

Most of us fall somewhere between those extremes, but nobody can tell you
where you fall; you need to determine that for yourself.

Should you back up Windows? Should you back up your applications? Most
people will tell you no, since you can always reinstall these easily from
the original media. But I don't think the answer is so clear-cut. Many
people have substantial time and effort invested in customizing Windows and
configuring their apps to work the way they want to. Putting all of that
back the way it was can be a difficult, time-consuming effort. Whether you
should backup up Windows and apps depends, once again, on you.

How to backup? What software to use? There are many choices, including the
Windows-supplied backup program. Which choice is best for you depends at
least in part on the answers to some of the questions above.

Finally what backup media should you choose, and how should it be stored?
There are many choices, including CDs, tape, zip drives, and second hard
drives.

I don't recommend backup to a second non-removable hard drive because it
leaves you susceptible to simultaneous loss of the original and backup to
many of the most common dangers: severe power glitches, nearby lightning
strikes, virus attacks, even theft of the computer.

In my view, secure backup needs to be on removable media, and not kept in
the computer. For really secure backup (needed, for example, if the life of
your business depends on your data) you should have multiple generations of
backup, and at least one of those generations should be stored off-site.

My computer isn't used for business, but my personal backup scheme uses two
identical removable hard drives. I alternate between the two, and use
Acronis True Image to make a complete copy of the primary drive.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
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Malke wrote:

Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User wrote:

ROFLMAO.. Tell him how you really feel, girl.. :-)


I can't. It would never make it past the filters. ;-)


LOL! You and me both.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

In article ,
in says...


Lemmer wrote:

Running XP Pro.
200GB HD#1 (C-E Partitions)
80GB HD#2 (S)
1GB RAM

I create a system restore point each week of "C" and System State.

I backup to S once a week "C" and System State.

My two main concerns are being able to keep the O/S viable and save
5GB of music in case of a disaster. The music currently resides on
the second hard drive (S). I have all important files, etc on the
second hard drive (S). Both hard drives are less than six months old.

What would be the "ideal" method of being able to restore the O/S and
have the music files in tact in case of a hard drive (s) failure ??


First, note that System Restore protects the operating system only. It does
nothing for your music files or any other data files.

Second, regardless of how old the drives are, or whether your data files are
separated on a second hard drive, if you don't have a strong backup regimen
in place, and don't backup to an external device, you are extremely
vulnerable to data loss. Here's my standard blurb on backup:

First of all, almost everyone should be backing up regularly. It is always
possible that a hard drive crash, user error, nearby lightning strike, virus
attack, even theft of the computer, can cause the loss of everything on your
drive. As has often been said, it's not a matter of whether you will have
such a problem, but when.

Essentially you should back up what you can't afford to lose--what you can't
readily recreate. What that is depends on how you use your computer and
what
you use it for.

It takes time and effort to backup, but it also takes time and effort to
recreate lost data. If you back up daily, you should never have to recreate
more than one day's worth of last data. If weekly, there's potentially a lot
more to recreate. You should assess how much pain and trouble you would
have
if you lost x days of data, and then choose a backup frequency that doesn't
involve more pain and trouble than that you would have if you had to
recreate what was lost.

Some things (photographs, for instance) can never be recreated, and more
frequent backup may be wanted for them.

At one extreme is the professional user who would likely go out of business
if his data was lost. He probably needs to back up at least daily. At the
other extreme is the kid who doesn't use his computer except to play games.
He probably needs no backup at all, since worst case he can easily reinstall
his games.

Most of us fall somewhere between those extremes, but nobody can tell you
where you fall; you need to determine that for yourself.

Should you back up Windows? Should you back up your applications? Most
people will tell you no, since you can always reinstall these easily from
the original media. But I don't think the answer is so clear-cut. Many
people have substantial time and effort invested in customizing Windows and
configuring their apps to work the way they want to. Putting all of that
back the way it was can be a difficult, time-consuming effort. Whether you
should backup up Windows and apps depends, once again, on you.

How to backup? What software to use? There are many choices, including the
Windows-supplied backup program. Which choice is best for you depends at
least in part on the answers to some of the questions above.

Finally what backup media should you choose, and how should it be stored?
There are many choices, including CDs, tape, zip drives, and second hard
drives.

I don't recommend backup to a second non-removable hard drive because it
leaves you susceptible to simultaneous loss of the original and backup to
many of the most common dangers: severe power glitches, nearby lightning
strikes, virus attacks, even theft of the computer.

In my view, secure backup needs to be on removable media, and not kept in
the computer. For really secure backup (needed, for example, if the life of
your business depends on your data) you should have multiple generations of
backup, and at least one of those generations should be stored off-site.

My computer isn't used for business, but my personal backup scheme uses
two
identical removable hard drives. I alternate between the two, and use
Acronis True Image to make a complete copy of the primary drive.


Thank you for your clear, situational response and to all others who gave their
opinions.

Lemmer wrote:

In article ,
in says...

Here's my
standard blurb on backup:


Thank you for your clear, situational response and to all others who
gave their opinions.



You're welcome. Glad to help.


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Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
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In article ,
in says...


Lemmer wrote:

Running XP Pro.
200GB HD#1 (C-E Partitions)
80GB HD#2 (S)
1GB RAM

I create a system restore point each week of "C" and System State.

I backup to S once a week "C" and System State.

My two main concerns are being able to keep the O/S viable and save
5GB of music in case of a disaster. The music currently resides on
the second hard drive (S). I have all important files, etc on the
second hard drive (S). Both hard drives are less than six months old.

What would be the "ideal" method of being able to restore the O/S and
have the music files in tact in case of a hard drive (s) failure ??


First, note that System Restore protects the operating system only. It does
nothing for your music files or any other data files.

Second, regardless of how old the drives are, or whether your data files are
separated on a second hard drive, if you don't have a strong backup regimen
in place, and don't backup to an external device, you are extremely
vulnerable to data loss. Here's my standard blurb on backup:

First of all, almost everyone should be backing up regularly. It is always
possible that a hard drive crash, user error, nearby lightning strike, virus
attack, even theft of the computer, can cause the loss of everything on your
drive. As has often been said, it's not a matter of whether you will have
such a problem, but when.

Essentially you should back up what you can't afford to lose--what you can't
readily recreate. What that is depends on how you use your computer and
what
you use it for.

It takes time and effort to backup, but it also takes time and effort to
recreate lost data. If you back up daily, you should never have to recreate
more than one day's worth of last data. If weekly, there's potentially a lot
more to recreate. You should assess how much pain and trouble you would
have
if you lost x days of data, and then choose a backup frequency that doesn't
involve more pain and trouble than that you would have if you had to
recreate what was lost.

Some things (photographs, for instance) can never be recreated, and more
frequent backup may be wanted for them.

At one extreme is the professional user who would likely go out of business
if his data was lost. He probably needs to back up at least daily. At the
other extreme is the kid who doesn't use his computer except to play games.
He probably needs no backup at all, since worst case he can easily reinstall
his games.

Most of us fall somewhere between those extremes, but nobody can tell you
where you fall; you need to determine that for yourself.

Should you back up Windows? Should you back up your applications? Most
people will tell you no, since you can always reinstall these easily from
the original media. But I don't think the answer is so clear-cut. Many
people have substantial time and effort invested in customizing Windows and
configuring their apps to work the way they want to. Putting all of that
back the way it was can be a difficult, time-consuming effort. Whether you
should backup up Windows and apps depends, once again, on you.

How to backup? What software to use? There are many choices, including the
Windows-supplied backup program. Which choice is best for you depends at
least in part on the answers to some of the questions above.

Finally what backup media should you choose, and how should it be stored?
There are many choices, including CDs, tape, zip drives, and second hard
drives.

I don't recommend backup to a second non-removable hard drive because it
leaves you susceptible to simultaneous loss of the original and backup to
many of the most common dangers: severe power glitches, nearby lightning
strikes, virus attacks, even theft of the computer.

In my view, secure backup needs to be on removable media, and not kept in
the computer. For really secure backup (needed, for example, if the life of
your business depends on your data) you should have multiple generations of
backup, and at least one of those generations should be stored off-site.

My computer isn't used for business, but my personal backup scheme uses
two
identical removable hard drives. I alternate between the two, and use
Acronis True Image to make a complete copy of the primary drive.


Thank you for your clear, situational response and to all others who gave their
opinions.

Odd. Even though this shows up in my newsreader as being sent by me, it's
not. oh well...

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User