Update KB890830 disables Windows Mail

kreed wrote:


"Speaking in silver" wrote in message
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"Trev" invalid
"Speaking in silver" wrote in message
Microsoft goes on pushing us W7 users to use their "wonderful" WLM.
Why they do this I still don't know, but the more they push, the
less I like it.

First, they disabled Windows Mail in Windows 7 without a good
reason, even leaving the folder and some unusable files inside
\Program Files\Windows Mail. However, this could be easily worked
around by lots of users happy with Windows Mail, just taking
ownership of that folder and overwriting the unusable files with the
original ones.

Now, Windows Update tries to install a new "improvement" KB890830,
which again won't allow Windows Mail to run.

Please be careful not to install it, or use System Restore if too
late :-)
And thank you again, Microsoft, for caring so much...

My windows is up to date and Live mail is working fine

Im sure the malicious software tool was downloaded and did its job. I
might add I'm on 32 bit

I's talking about "Windows Mail", the program that came with Vista,
which I'm running on W7 too.

WLM is what I'm trying to avoid.
Still successful! :-)
Windows Live Mail as well as the rest of Windows Live Essentials works
perfectly well and considering they are 'free' they are excellent.
Windows Live Mail does all its predecessors did and more. This sounds
like one of those PICNIC situations.
Problem In Chair Not In Computer.
K
More like an ID10t error

Augustus wrote:


"Speaking in silver" wrote in message
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Microsoft goes on pushing us W7 users to use their "wonderful" WLM.
Why they do this I still don't know, but the more they push, the less
I like it.

First, they disabled Windows Mail in Windows 7 without a good reason,
even leaving the folder and some unusable files inside \Program
Files\Windows Mail. However, this could be easily worked around by
lots of users happy with Windows Mail, just taking ownership of that
folder and overwriting the unusable files with the original ones.

Now, Windows Update tries to install a new "improvement" KB890830,
which again won't allow Windows Mail to run.

Please be careful not to install it, or use System Restore if too late
:-)
And thank you again, Microsoft, for caring so much...

Seeing that Windows 7 does not come with any mail or news client
installed I
fail to see how they are "pushing" Windows Live Mail on to their users.
There's no forced Windows Live login and identity creation and no forced
download and
install of any of the Windows Live apps, of which WLM is but one.
Complaining that a version of Windows Mail designed explicitly for a
different MS OS doesn't work properly on your system after a standard
Windows 7 Security Update is like complaining that the alternator I bought
for my '04 Chevy Avalanche doesn't work properly on my '09 Avalanche. MS is
not compelled, nor should they be, to insure that software
bundled and designed to function with a previous specific version of
Windows
is 100% compatible with Windows 7. It was a gift that it could be tweaked
to work. Get over it and use another mail client or roll back to Vista if
Windows Mail is that critical to your existence.



Nobody is pushing anything except this moron pushing his bull****. He's
nothing more than a pathetic little troll

Speaking in silver wrote:
"Augustus" wrote
"Speaking in silver" wrote in message
Seeing that Windows 7 does not come with any mail or news client
installed I
fail to see how they are "pushing" Windows Live Mail on to their users.

I thought "Live Essentials" was downloaded automatically by W7 Update.
Maybe I'm wrong (?)


DUH, really? Of course your wrong you moron. STFU becuase all you're
doing is spewing lies.

"KissThis" wrote
Speaking in silver wrote:

You haven't been pushed to use anything.

Oh, really?
Too bad for you that the Antitrust regulators don't think the same.
Maybe you're happy while being abused, but some of us are not.
Just let's wait and see how much they'll have to pay this time.
Wanna bet?

Speaking in silver wrote:
"KissThis" wrote
Speaking in silver wrote:

You haven't been pushed to use anything.

Oh, really?
Too bad for you that the Antitrust regulators don't think the same.
Maybe you're happy while being abused, but some of us are not.
Just let's wait and see how much they'll have to pay this time.
Wanna bet?

Pay for what?

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of the President, or that we are to stand by
the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the
American public."
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"Speaking in silver" wrote in message
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"KissThis" wrote
Speaking in silver wrote:

You haven't been pushed to use anything.

Oh, really?
Too bad for you that the Antitrust regulators don't think the same.

The Anti-trust regulators are only interested in web browsers AFAIK, not
email clients.

In article ,
says...

"KissThis" wrote
Speaking in silver wrote:

You haven't been pushed to use anything.

Oh, really?
Too bad for you that the Antitrust regulators don't think the same.
Maybe you're happy while being abused, but some of us are not.
Just let's wait and see how much they'll have to pay this time.
Wanna bet?

What keeps you from downloading a different mail/news client and using it? There are a
number of others available that are just as easy to use if not more so. I think the point is
that you don't have to settle for WM or WLM.

Ed

"Richard Crowley" wrote in message
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"R. C. White" wrote...
The current version on that Download site is Version 2009 (Build
14.0.8089.0726), released last July. While many of us users complain of
the pale pastel color scheme and a couple of other "features", this
latest version is, overall, the best to date.

I downloaded the current update, but I don't see any cosmetic
or functional difference?

Perhaps just because I'm an old fogey, but I don't appreciate
the trend towards more "white space", huge subject line fonts,
etc. Having started in computing just after "unit record equip"
I prefer my information single-spaced so I don't have to
scroll up and down to see everything. ;-)

I also hate having my different SMTP accounts all handled
separately with separate folders, etc. Perhaps I don't care
which account the mail came from.

Also, I didn't see any way to specify that I wanted ONLY
the email app, and not the rest of the Live package. I was
trying to keep the buildup of Windows cruft from happening
so quickly on this new machine, but apparently it is as bad
as ever, perhaps worse. Yes, I feel I was _forced_ to install
all the rest of the "Live" family even though I don't want any
of the other pieces, indeed I don't know or care what they
are.
You didn't have to install the whole package. All you had to do was pick the
components you wanted, or uncheck the ones you didn't want. I didn't install
anything except the mail and news clients and left the rest in the package.
--
SC Tom

"Gordon" wrote in message
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"Richard Crowley" wrote in message
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"Don" wrote...
I thought Windows Mail did not come with Windows 7, in fact no email or
newsgroup program comes packaged with it,

On my new VAIO notebook, Win7 came with "Windows Live Mail"

Then your vendor decided to bundle it. Win 7 does not have any email or
newsreader in it...

Err - That's good. sigh Umm. The vendor decided to bundle it. Err.

"Gordon" wrote in message
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"Speaking in silver" wrote in message
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Microsoft goes on pushing us W7 users to use their "wonderful" WLM.
Why they do this I still don't know, but the more they push, the less I
like it.

I've not been "pushed" to use anything. Please tell us how you've been
"pushed"....

Err - Go to a ledge in a 12 story building. Err sigh. Have housekeeping
push you out the window. Umm. Err.
sigh

This groups first troll?

Go back to Vista and your troll mates.

"Speaking in silver" wrote in message
...
Microsoft goes on pushing us W7 users to use their "wonderful" WLM.
Why they do this I still don't know, but the more they push, the less I
like it.

First, they disabled Windows Mail in Windows 7 without a good reason, even
leaving the folder and some unusable files inside \Program Files\Windows
Mail. However, this could be easily worked around by lots of users happy
with Windows Mail, just taking ownership of that folder and overwriting
the unusable files with the original ones.

Now, Windows Update tries to install a new "improvement" KB890830, which
again won't allow Windows Mail to run.

Please be careful not to install it, or use System Restore if too late :-)
And thank you again, Microsoft, for caring so much...

"Bill" wrote in message
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This groups first troll?

Go back to Vista and your troll mates.



Possibly. I mentioned a couple times since finding this group that, it would
not take long for the "I need attention crowd" to show up. It was most
likely slowed a little by from what I hear, a lot of news feeds not carrying
this group, at least not yet. I know it has been a GREAT deal of help to me,
but I need lots of help with anything new. I have just never been interested
in learning the ins and outs of PC's. I learn how to do a few things and the
rest I could care less about, so when something changes, it can be
frustrating. A group like this with people who love to play with new stuff
and offer answers sure beats having to go buy a book.
It's also possible we have someone who is just frustrated and venting.
I do know I will have to look and see how the filter works on my Win. 7
machine.
--
If we are what we eat, I'm cheap, fast, and easy.

"Bill" wrote
This groups first troll?

Go back to Vista and your troll mates.

I'm using Windows Mail in Windows 7, and I'm trying to help people in my
same situation. So what's wrong about that? and How does that make me a
troll?

Please think twice before insulting me or other people without any reason,
because that's what trolls do. That said, I will not answer to any more
flames.

"Bill" wrote in message
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This groups first troll?

Go back to Vista and your troll mates.

"Speaking in silver" wrote in message
-snip-

Nah, SiSilver isn't a troll, just a little agitated/annoyed :-)

I use Windows Live Mail, it isn't perfect, but hey, what is.
When I installed Windows 7 and everything was in place. I clicked on the
Mail button on my keyboard and not a lot happened, then I found out I
needed to download/install Windows Live Mail.

It all works, not as easy to use as Outlook Express, but it's ok.
I can talk to people, they can talk to me, that's all I need :-)

Grenou

"SC Tom" wrote ...
You didn't have to install the whole package. All you had to do was pick
the components you wanted, or uncheck the ones you didn't want. I didn't
install anything except the mail and news clients and left the rest in the
package.

Yes that is what I would have expected (and was led to believe).
But I examined every option offered and none of them included
the ability to download/install selective apps. :-(
Sometimes I wonder if MS got rid of all of their usability experts.