A question for an MVP

On 10/31/2015 02:23 PM, ~BD~ wrote:
On 31/10/2015 19:18, OG38 wrote:
On 10/31/2015 01:58 PM, ~BD~ wrote:
On 31/10/2015 17:58, OG38 wrote:
On 10/31/2015 12:55 PM, Nil wrote:
On 31 Oct 2015, ~BD~ wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

It would have been MORE helpful if you had advised of whether you
could, or could not, read the words at the link. It was/is a
simple request to fulfill.

Would you like to try again 'Nil'?

I'd rather eat slugs than help support your off-topic delusional
vendetta.

You are part of a rapidly growing crowd. g

It has been like this for YEARS, OG38.

Can YOU read the messages shown here?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/74rgevudcl...ning.tiff?dl=0




A yes or no will be fine!


No

Do you see ANYTHING at the link I posted above, OG?


Yes I could see something but could not read it... a tad blurry and
poor eye sight.

--
OG38
Just West Of Nowhere

On 31/10/2015 19:27, OG38 wrote:
On 10/31/2015 02:23 PM, ~BD~ wrote:
On 31/10/2015 19:18, OG38 wrote:
On 10/31/2015 01:58 PM, ~BD~ wrote:
On 31/10/2015 17:58, OG38 wrote:
On 10/31/2015 12:55 PM, Nil wrote:
On 31 Oct 2015, ~BD~ wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

It would have been MORE helpful if you had advised of whether you
could, or could not, read the words at the link. It was/is a
simple request to fulfill.

Would you like to try again 'Nil'?

I'd rather eat slugs than help support your off-topic delusional
vendetta.

You are part of a rapidly growing crowd. g

It has been like this for YEARS, OG38.

Can YOU read the messages shown here?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/74rgevudcl...ning.tiff?dl=0





A yes or no will be fine!


No

Do you see ANYTHING at the link I posted above, OG?


Yes I could see something but could not read it... a tad blurry and
poor eye sight.

Thank you. I appreciate your assistance.

Please .... *do NOT try to look here*:

https://urlquery.net/report.php?id=1446319918860

It's for techie eyes only, IYKWIM!

On 31/10/2015 19:40, ~BD~ wrote:
On 31/10/2015 19:27, OG38 wrote:
On 10/31/2015 02:23 PM, ~BD~ wrote:
On 31/10/2015 19:18, OG38 wrote:
On 10/31/2015 01:58 PM, ~BD~ wrote:
On 31/10/2015 17:58, OG38 wrote:
On 10/31/2015 12:55 PM, Nil wrote:
On 31 Oct 2015, ~BD~ wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

It would have been MORE helpful if you had advised of whether you
could, or could not, read the words at the link. It was/is a
simple request to fulfill.

Would you like to try again 'Nil'?

I'd rather eat slugs than help support your off-topic delusional
vendetta.

You are part of a rapidly growing crowd. g

It has been like this for YEARS, OG38.

Can YOU read the messages shown here?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/74rgevudcl...ning.tiff?dl=0






A yes or no will be fine!


No

Do you see ANYTHING at the link I posted above, OG?


Yes I could see something but could not read it... a tad blurry and
poor eye sight.

Thank you. I appreciate your assistance.

Please .... *do NOT try to look here*:

https://urlquery.net/report.php?id=1446319918860

It's for techie eyes only, IYKWIM!

Techie guys look here please: http://131.253.61.98/

On 2015-10-31 3:46 PM, ~BD~ wrote:
On 31/10/2015 19:40, ~BD~ wrote:
On 31/10/2015 19:27, OG38 wrote:
On 10/31/2015 02:23 PM, ~BD~ wrote:
On 31/10/2015 19:18, OG38 wrote:
On 10/31/2015 01:58 PM, ~BD~ wrote:
On 31/10/2015 17:58, OG38 wrote:
On 10/31/2015 12:55 PM, Nil wrote:
On 31 Oct 2015, ~BD~ wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

It would have been MORE helpful if you had advised of whether you
could, or could not, read the words at the link. It was/is a
simple request to fulfill.

Would you like to try again 'Nil'?

I'd rather eat slugs than help support your off-topic delusional
vendetta.

You are part of a rapidly growing crowd. g

It has been like this for YEARS, OG38.

Can YOU read the messages shown here?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/74rgevudcl...ning.tiff?dl=0







A yes or no will be fine!


No

Do you see ANYTHING at the link I posted above, OG?


Yes I could see something but could not read it... a tad blurry and
poor eye sight.

Thank you. I appreciate your assistance.

Please .... *do NOT try to look here*:

https://urlquery.net/report.php?id=1446319918860

It's for techie eyes only, IYKWIM!

Techie guys look here please: http://131.253.61.98/

Here is a rope, either go **** up it, or hang yourself, pick one.

--
Froz...

Quando omni flunkus, moritati

On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 18:58:27 +0000, ~BD~ wrote:

On 31/10/2015 17:58, OG38 wrote:
On 10/31/2015 12:55 PM, Nil wrote:
I'd rather eat slugs than help support your off-topic delusional
vendetta.

You are part of a rapidly growing crowd. g

It has been like this for YEARS, OG38.

Perhaps so, but your fouling of this particular nest is relatively
new.

Can YOU read the messages shown here?

https://www.dropbox.com/

The question is not "can we" but "will we"? All your actions are
having the effect of making that less likely.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://BrownMath.com/
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
Shikata ga nai...

On 31/10/2015 19:58, FrozenNorth wrote:
[....]
Here is a rope, either go **** up it, or hang yourself, pick one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itvnQ2QB4yc

On 31/10/2015 17:15, Stan Brown wrote:
I prefer not to hide my identity.

Ah! :-) So we do have something in common after all!

On 31/10/2015 19:04, Steve Hayes wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 23:37:23 +0000, ~BD~
wrote:

On 29/10/2015 22:39, Stan Brown wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 22:16:58 +0000, ~BD~ wrote:

On 29/10/2015 18:27, Mike Easter wrote:
~BD~ wrote:

snip

Off-topic for Win7 group. Take it somewhere else.

There is at least one MVP operating in this group. That in itself makes
it *ON* topic - in my opinion. Why are you being 'difficult' again?

Can YOU read the posts at the image I posted?


Hello Stan

Speaking for myself, why should I try?

Simply because I asked for help? :-)

I don't click on links without some indication of their contents.

You don't know the boss of Microsoft Answers?!! His name is clearly
shown in the link - Mr David Wolters. Do you know how to check if he
does REALLY work for Microsoft?

Seriously, you are very sensible regarding caution before clicking on
links. I wonder, though, how many folk _you_ expect to click on the
links you have placed in YOUR signature block. *DO* people visit your
sites via this group?

I do sometimes click on Stan's sig links, because I know him from this
and other ngs.

That's good to learn, Steve.

Thank you. :-)

I'm a little surprised, though, that Stan doesn't appear to know who
visits his sites. I had imagined there would be some kind of visitors
'log' on his server.

On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 20:30:04 +0000, ~BD~
wrote:

On 31/10/2015 19:04, Steve Hayes wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 23:37:23 +0000, ~BD~
wrote:

On 29/10/2015 22:39, Stan Brown wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 22:16:58 +0000, ~BD~ wrote:

On 29/10/2015 18:27, Mike Easter wrote:
~BD~ wrote:

snip

Off-topic for Win7 group. Take it somewhere else.

There is at least one MVP operating in this group. That in itself makes
it *ON* topic - in my opinion. Why are you being 'difficult' again?

Can YOU read the posts at the image I posted?


Hello Stan

Speaking for myself, why should I try?

Simply because I asked for help? :-)

I don't click on links without some indication of their contents.

You don't know the boss of Microsoft Answers?!! His name is clearly
shown in the link - Mr David Wolters. Do you know how to check if he
does REALLY work for Microsoft?

Seriously, you are very sensible regarding caution before clicking on
links. I wonder, though, how many folk _you_ expect to click on the
links you have placed in YOUR signature block. *DO* people visit your
sites via this group?

I do sometimes click on Stan's sig links, because I know him from this
and other ngs.

That's good to learn, Steve.

Thank you. :-)

I'm a little surprised, though, that Stan doesn't appear to know who
visits his sites. I had imagined there would be some kind of visitors
'log' on his server.

I don't have one on mine, and see no reason why Stan should have one
on his. There used to be "guestbooks" for web sites but they died
because of spam, I think.

Stan's web site is mainly about maths, which isn't my field, so I
don't visit it often, but I am grateful that people I've met on Usenet
provide links to their web sites so one can connect with them in other
ways.

On the other hand, I don't like it much when people post messages on
Usenet consisting of nothing but a URL. If I respond to those at all I
do so with another URL, this one:

http://www.khanya.org.za/peeves.hrm

so those who speak only URL get replies in the same language.




--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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On Sun, 01 Nov 2015 05:35:37 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:
On the other hand, I don't like it much when people post messages on
Usenet consisting of nothing but a URL. If I respond to those at all I
do so with another URL, this one:

http://www.khanya.org.za/peeves.hrm

so those who speak only URL get replies in the same language.

ITYM: http://www.khanya.org.za/peeves.htm

Nice one, and an excellent reply to the lying troll who is now in my
kill file.


--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://BrownMath.com/
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
Shikata ga nai...

| I'm a little surprised, though, that Stan doesn't appear to know who
| visits his sites. I had imagined there would be some kind of visitors
| 'log' on his server.
|
| I don't have one on mine, and see no reason why Stan should have one
| on his. There used to be "guestbooks" for web sites but they died
| because of spam, I think.
|

All servers have logs. You may not have access
if you have a cheapo host. Also, if you use a company
like Wix or Squarespace you've got a kiddie site that's
hosted remotely by them. I wouldn't be surprised if they
don't provide logs. Their customers are mainly small
business people who don't understand the Web, have
no idea how it works, and don't really believe a website
is useful to their business. So they go to Wix and get
a free site through simple drag/drop and multiple choice
options.

Your site looks like it's on a standard webhost server.
If you have access to upload files to your own server
via ftp you should find your server logs somewhere in
the file system you're allowed to access. If not, then if
you want to you can add a snippet of Google Analytics
script. In exchange for letting them spy on your
visitors they'll give you access to the data they
collect.

Personally I find it very interesting and helpful to read
my logs. I download them every morning. I have
my site hosted on a Unix server. There's a "logs_web"
folder with daily logs as text files GZIP-ed. Any other
Unix server should be similar. I don't know how Windows
does it, but a look through your server folders should
turn up the logs.

The log is plain text, with a line for each GET, containing
IP address, time, request, response, referrer, useragent.
I run my logs through a VBScript to convert the IP address
to hostname and get a location from a free database from
MaxMind. I have a package to get you started here, if
you're curious:

http://www.jsware.net/jsware/scrfiles.php5#weblog

Your site seems to be somewhat private, so maybe
you don't have many visitors, but if you do I think you'd
find your logs interesting.
In addition to getting a sense of who's visiting your
site, reading logs also helps to discover broken links
or problem pages. And it gives you a sense of how
people use your site, in real time. Anyone who doesn't
read their logs would likely be surprised to learn what
people visit and what they don't. To a great extent it
really depends on 1) incoming links that are popular and
2) what Google thinks is worthwhile. I have pages that
routinely show up #1 in Google search and other pages
that are almost never found. Frequency of page update
seems to have a lot to do with it (in addition to relevance
of content, of course). That's really a dumb thing to value
highly in most cases, but it's how Google works.

| On the other hand, I don't like it much when people post messages on
| Usenet consisting of nothing but a URL.

I usually just ignore those posts. There are
also a lot of people who just don't bother to
explain themselves. I think it's a matter of
both common consideration of others and
literacy both going downhill. Perhaps those are
linked. People who are spoiled as children don't
really need to communicate well in order to get
what they want.

On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 07:57:41 -0500, Stan Brown
wrote:

On Sun, 01 Nov 2015 05:35:37 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:
On the other hand, I don't like it much when people post messages on
Usenet consisting of nothing but a URL. If I respond to those at all I
do so with another URL, this one:

http://www.khanya.org.za/peeves.hrm

so those who speak only URL get replies in the same language.

ITYM: http://www.khanya.org.za/peeves.htm

Nice one, and an excellent reply to the lying troll who is now in my
kill file.

You are welcome to use it when you encounter URL-only posts, and to
suggest improvements.


--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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On 01/11/2015 14:17, Mayayana wrote:
| I'm a little surprised, though, that Stan doesn't appear to know who
| visits his sites. I had imagined there would be some kind of visitors
| 'log' on his server.
|
| I don't have one on mine, and see no reason why Stan should have one
| on his. There used to be "guestbooks" for web sites but they died
| because of spam, I think.
|

All servers have logs. You may not have access
if you have a cheapo host. Also, if you use a company
like Wix or Squarespace you've got a kiddie site that's
hosted remotely by them. I wouldn't be surprised if they
don't provide logs. Their customers are mainly small
business people who don't understand the Web, have
no idea how it works, and don't really believe a website
is useful to their business. So they go to Wix and get
a free site through simple drag/drop and multiple choice
options.

Your site looks like it's on a standard webhost server.
If you have access to upload files to your own server
via ftp you should find your server logs somewhere in
the file system you're allowed to access. If not, then if
you want to you can add a snippet of Google Analytics
script. In exchange for letting them spy on your
visitors they'll give you access to the data they
collect.

Personally I find it very interesting and helpful to read
my logs. I download them every morning. I have
my site hosted on a Unix server. There's a "logs_web"
folder with daily logs as text files GZIP-ed. Any other
Unix server should be similar. I don't know how Windows
does it, but a look through your server folders should
turn up the logs.

The log is plain text, with a line for each GET, containing
IP address, time, request, response, referrer, useragent.
I run my logs through a VBScript to convert the IP address
to hostname and get a location from a free database from
MaxMind. I have a package to get you started here, if
you're curious:

http://www.jsware.net/jsware/scrfiles.php5#weblog

Your site seems to be somewhat private, so maybe
you don't have many visitors, but if you do I think you'd
find your logs interesting.
In addition to getting a sense of who's visiting your
site, reading logs also helps to discover broken links
or problem pages. And it gives you a sense of how
people use your site, in real time. Anyone who doesn't
read their logs would likely be surprised to learn what
people visit and what they don't. To a great extent it
really depends on 1) incoming links that are popular and
2) what Google thinks is worthwhile. I have pages that
routinely show up #1 in Google search and other pages
that are almost never found. Frequency of page update
seems to have a lot to do with it (in addition to relevance
of content, of course). That's really a dumb thing to value
highly in most cases, but it's how Google works.

| On the other hand, I don't like it much when people post messages on
| Usenet consisting of nothing but a URL.

I usually just ignore those posts. There are
also a lot of people who just don't bother to
explain themselves. I think it's a matter of
both common consideration of others and
literacy both going downhill. Perhaps those are
linked. People who are spoiled as children don't
really need to communicate well in order to get
what they want.

An excellent response, Mayayana. :-)

Thank you in particular for the link to JS Ware. I've visited the site
before but was never quite sure who 'JS' is - do YOU know?

I have a suspicion (and it is only that) that the author has died.

How might I check the validity of the JS website?

D.

On 01/11/2015 17:47, Steve Hayes wrote:
On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 07:57:41 -0500, Stan Brown
wrote:

On Sun, 01 Nov 2015 05:35:37 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:
On the other hand, I don't like it much when people post messages on
Usenet consisting of nothing but a URL. If I respond to those at all I
do so with another URL, this one:

http://www.khanya.org.za/peeves.hrm

so those who speak only URL get replies in the same language.

ITYM: http://www.khanya.org.za/peeves.htm

Nice one, and an excellent reply to the lying troll who is now in my
kill file.

You are welcome to use it when you encounter URL-only posts, and to
suggest improvements.

Perhaps you'd ask your 'friend' what he THINKS I have ever lied about.

All I ever try to do is seek the truth. Some people lie, but not me.

I also wonder why '...winston' - an MVP - didn't respond. Maybe you'd
like to ask him why he avoided my question (he KNOWS my question was
posted specifically for HIS attention!).

As you may well know, God moves in mysterious ways. :-)

D.

On 31/10/2015 20:17, ~BD~ wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itvnQ2QB4yc


THE WORLD IS COMING TO AN END


Better to *listen* to the video clip .... but here are the words:-


The air is polluted, the oceans contaminated
The animals are going extinct, the economy’s collapsed
Education is shot, police are corrupt
Intelligence is shunned and ignorance rewarded
The people are depressed and angry
We can't live with each other and we can't live with ourselves
So everyone’s medicated
We pass each other on the streets
And if we do speak it's meaningless robotic communication
More people want 15 seconds of fame
Than a lifetime of meaning and purpose
Because what’s popular is more important than what’s right
Ratings are more important than the truth
Our government builds twice as many prisons than schools
It’s easier to find a Big Mac than an apple
And when you find the apple
It's been genetically processed and modified
Presidents lie, politicians trick us
Race is still an issue and so is religion
Your God doesn’t exist, my God does and he is All-Loving
If you disagree with me I'll kill you
Or even worse argue you to death
92% of songs on the radio are about sex
Kids don’t play tag, they play twerk videos
The average person watches 5 hours of television a day
And it's more violence on the screen than ever before
Technology has given us everything we could ever want
And at the same time stolen everything we really need
Pride is at an all time high, humility, an all time low
Everybody knows everything, everybody’s going somewhere
Ignoring someone, blaming somebody
Not many human beings left anymore, a lot of human doings
Plenty of human lingerings in the past, not many human beings
Money is still the root of all evil
Yet we tell our kids don’t get that degree
The jobs don’t pay enough
Good deeds are only done when there's a profit margin
Videos of the misfortunes of others go viral
We laugh and share them with our friends to laugh with us
Our role models today
60 years ago would have been examples of what not to be
There are states where people can legally be discriminated against
Because they were born a certain way
Companies invest millions of dollars hiring specialists to make Little
girls feel like they need “make up” to be beautiful Permanently lowering
their self esteem
Because they will never be pretty enough
To meet those impossible standards
Corporations tell us buy, buy, buy, get this, get that
You must keep up, you must fit in
This will make you happy, but it never does for long
So what can we do in the face of all of this madness and chaos?
What is the solution? We can love
Not the love you hear in your favorite song on the radio
I mean real love, true love, boundless love
You can love, love each other
From the moment we wake up to the moment we go to bed
Perform an act of kindness because that is contagious
We can be mindful during every interaction
Planting seeds of goodness
Showing a little more compassion than usual
We can forgive
Because 300 years from now will that grudge you hold against Your
friend, your mother, your father have been worth it?
Instead of trying to change others we can change ourselves
We can change our hearts
We have been sold lies
Brainwashed by our leaders and those we trust
To not recognize our brothers and sisters
And to exhibit anger, hatred and cruelty
But once we truly love we will meet anger with sympathy
Hatred with compassion, cruelty with kindness
Love is the most powerful weapon on the face of the Earth
Robert Kennedy once said that
Few will have the greatness to bend history
But each of us can work to change a small portion of events
And in the total of all those act
Will be written in the history of a generation
So yes, the world is coming to an end
And the path towards a new beginning starts within you

http://genius.com/Prince-ea-why-i-th...uld-end-lyrics