Two pieces of spam this week!!! But still SPAM ALERT

Tim,

As you know, this has been discussed for years in the MS groups, by MVP's
and non. Spam is spam. And it has been dealt with, accordingly.

In addition, read the new Newsspam FAQ v1.5 (which also covers ECP/EMP) and
use it! ) Speaking of, taken directly from his headers: Warning: Junk /
bulk email will be auto-filtered, traced and reported.

Why he continues, you ask? He can only answer that. An intricate
complexity of some sort is most probable, stated by many.

Question to ponder for the rest of the readers he What if "everyone" who
had a link/page/site/faq, etc that pertained to Windows in some fashion,
posted that said link here every two weeks?

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm


"Tim Robinson" wrote in message
...
I wouldn't dream of abusing my position as MVP, even if it is just to say
"I'm an MVP!".

But it seems odd that Timo continues to post his FAQs, in irrelevant
groups,
despite the fact that the resident MVPs in said groups have asked him not
to.

--
Tim Robinson (MVP, Windows SDK)
http://mobius.sourceforge.net/

David Candy wrote:
Excellent.


"Kelly" wrote in message
...
He slipped through, this time, David. But will be a goner soon.

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm


"David Candy" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 19:40:47 -0700, Hilary Karp
wrote:

There is absolutely no comparison between Tim and Kelly to make your
suggestion have even a miniscule amount of validity. Kelly contributes
tirelessly to help people out in these rooms. I have never seen Timo
contribute one thing here except for his spam. Kelly is one of the most
respected and well liked members of this community just because of all
she gives.

Not to knock Kelly, but these aren't "rooms", but usenet news
groups. MS has very cleverly made a web based usenet news reader
and called it their "community" and try to take credit for all
the postings. I assume you post through the below site, thinking
that it is all done by and under the control of MS. Bzzzzzt!
Below are your posting headers showing how your post are actually
being sent to usenet. Obviously MS is keeping you in the dark
about what is really going on.

http://communities2.microsoft.com/co...s/default.aspx

Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 19:40:47 -0700
From: Hilary Karp
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax)
X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: SPAM Alert
References:






In-Reply-To:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:
Newsgroups:
alt.msdos.batch.nt,microsoft.public.win2000.cmdpro mpt.admin,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
NNTP-Posting-Host: c-67-161-8-191.client.comcast.net 67.161.8.191
Path:
news.infoave.net!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.c om!easynews!news-feed01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net!nntp.frontiernet.net !nntp.giganews.com.MISMATCH!border1.nntp.dca.gigan ews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!TK2MSF TNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl
Lines: 1
Xref: news.infoave.net alt.msdos.batch.nt:20159
microsoft.public.win2000.cmdprompt.admin:21216
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:558873

Whatever name you apply to the beast, what I stated still applies. There
is no comparison.

Si Ballenger wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 19:40:47 -0700, Hilary Karp
wrote:


There is absolutely no comparison between Tim and Kelly to make your
suggestion have even a miniscule amount of validity. Kelly contributes
tirelessly to help people out in these rooms. I have never seen Timo
contribute one thing here except for his spam. Kelly is one of the most
respected and well liked members of this community just because of all
she gives.


Not to knock Kelly, but these aren't "rooms", but usenet news
groups. MS has very cleverly made a web based usenet news reader
and called it their "community" and try to take credit for all
the postings. I assume you post through the below site, thinking
that it is all done by and under the control of MS. Bzzzzzt!
Below are your posting headers showing how your post are actually
being sent to usenet. Obviously MS is keeping you in the dark
about what is really going on.

http://communities2.microsoft.com/co...s/default.aspx

Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 19:40:47 -0700
From: Hilary Karp
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax)
X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: SPAM Alert
References:






In-Reply-To:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:
Newsgroups:
alt.msdos.batch.nt,microsoft.public.win2000.cmdpro mpt.admin,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
NNTP-Posting-Host: c-67-161-8-191.client.comcast.net 67.161.8.191
Path:
news.infoave.net!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.c om!easynews!news-feed01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net!nntp.frontiernet.net !nntp.giganews.com.MISMATCH!border1.nntp.dca.gigan ews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!TK2MSF TNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl
Lines: 1
Xref: news.infoave.net alt.msdos.batch.nt:20159
microsoft.public.win2000.cmdprompt.admin:21216
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:558873

Tim Robinson wrote:
I wouldn't dream of abusing my position as MVP, even if it is just to say
"I'm an MVP!".
But it seems odd that Timo continues to post his FAQs, in irrelevant groups,
despite the fact that the resident MVPs in said groups have asked him not
to.

Who are acting like nothing but common net hooligans with no
netiquette manners, and consequently ignored as such.


All the best, Timo

--
Prof. Timo Salmi ftp & http://garbo.uwasa.fi/ archives 193.166.120.5
Department of Accounting and Business Finance ; University of Vaasa
http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/ ; FIN-65101, Finland
Timo's FAQ materials at http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/http/tsfaq.html

Tim,

As you know, this has been discussed for years in the MS groups, by MVP's
and non. Spam is spam. And it has been dealt with, accordingly.

In addition, read the new Newsspam FAQ v1.5 (which also covers ECP/EMP) and
use it! ) Speaking of, taken directly from his headers: Warning: Junk /
bulk email will be auto-filtered, traced and reported.

Why he continues, you ask? He can only answer that. An intricate
complexity of some sort is most probable, stated by many.

Question to ponder for the rest of the readers he What if "everyone" who
had a link/page/site/faq, etc that pertained to Windows in some fashion,
posted that said link here every two weeks?

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm


"Tim Robinson" wrote in message
...
I wouldn't dream of abusing my position as MVP, even if it is just to say
"I'm an MVP!".

But it seems odd that Timo continues to post his FAQs, in irrelevant
groups,
despite the fact that the resident MVPs in said groups have asked him not
to.

--
Tim Robinson (MVP, Windows SDK)
http://mobius.sourceforge.net/

David Candy wrote:
Excellent.


"Kelly" wrote in message
...
He slipped through, this time, David. But will be a goner soon.

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm


"David Candy" wrote in message
...

There is absolutely no comparison between Tim and Kelly to make your
suggestion have even a miniscule amount of validity. Kelly contributes
tirelessly to help people out in these rooms. I have never seen Timo
contribute one thing here except for his spam. Kelly is one of the most
respected and well liked members of this community just because of all
she gives.

Si Ballenger wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 03:53:10 -0500, "Kelly"
wrote:


Tim,

As you know, this has been discussed for years in the MS groups, by MVP's
and non. Spam is spam. And it has been dealt with, accordingly.

In addition, read the new Newsspam FAQ v1.5 (which also covers ECP/EMP) and
use it! ) Speaking of, taken directly from his headers: Warning: Junk /
bulk email will be auto-filtered, traced and reported.

Why he continues, you ask? He can only answer that. An intricate
complexity of some sort is most probable, stated by many.

Question to ponder for the rest of the readers he What if "everyone" who
had a link/page/site/faq, etc that pertained to Windows in some fashion,
posted that said link here every two weeks?


Look at your excessivly long sig file. You post the links you
complain about ***every time you post***. MVP pot calling the
Timo kettle black! Guess we be pondering! ;-)


--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm

Tim Robinson wrote:
I wouldn't dream of abusing my position as MVP, even if it is just to say
"I'm an MVP!".
But it seems odd that Timo continues to post his FAQs, in irrelevant groups,
despite the fact that the resident MVPs in said groups have asked him not
to.

Who are acting like nothing but common net hooligans with no
netiquette manners, and consequently ignored as such.


All the best, Timo

--
Prof. Timo Salmi ftp & http://garbo.uwasa.fi/ archives 193.166.120.5
Department of Accounting and Business Finance ; University of Vaasa
http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/ ; FIN-65101, Finland
Timo's FAQ materials at http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/http/tsfaq.html

Thanks, David and Hilary. Game playing is showing his true color, how sad.

What a mature approach and mindset, Timo!

--
Have a Great Day,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm


"Timo Salmi" wrote in message
...
Kelly wrote:
He slipped through, this time, David. But will be a goner soon.

Sounds a bit like a declaration of cancel-bot-wars. If need be, I
know how to play that particular game both ways, so please be
forewarned.

All the best, Timo

--
Prof. Timo Salmi ftp & http://garbo.uwasa.fi/ archives 193.166.120.5
Department of Accounting and Business Finance ; University of Vaasa
http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/ ; FIN-65101, Finland
Useful script files and tricks ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/link/tscmd.zip

There is absolutely no comparison between Tim and Kelly to make your
suggestion have even a miniscule amount of validity. Kelly contributes
tirelessly to help people out in these rooms. I have never seen Timo
contribute one thing here except for his spam. Kelly is one of the most
respected and well liked members of this community just because of all
she gives.

Si Ballenger wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 03:53:10 -0500, "Kelly"
wrote:


Tim,

As you know, this has been discussed for years in the MS groups, by MVP's
and non. Spam is spam. And it has been dealt with, accordingly.

In addition, read the new Newsspam FAQ v1.5 (which also covers ECP/EMP) and
use it! ) Speaking of, taken directly from his headers: Warning: Junk /
bulk email will be auto-filtered, traced and reported.

Why he continues, you ask? He can only answer that. An intricate
complexity of some sort is most probable, stated by many.

Question to ponder for the rest of the readers he What if "everyone" who
had a link/page/site/faq, etc that pertained to Windows in some fashion,
posted that said link here every two weeks?


Look at your excessivly long sig file. You post the links you
complain about ***every time you post***. MVP pot calling the
Timo kettle black! Guess we be pondering! ;-)


--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm

Tim,

As you know, this has been discussed for years in the MS groups, by MVP's
and non. Spam is spam. And it has been dealt with, accordingly.

In addition, read the new Newsspam FAQ v1.5 (which also covers ECP/EMP) and
use it! ) Speaking of, taken directly from his headers: Warning: Junk /
bulk email will be auto-filtered, traced and reported.

Why he continues, you ask? He can only answer that. An intricate
complexity of some sort is most probable, stated by many.

Question to ponder for the rest of the readers he What if "everyone" who
had a link/page/site/faq, etc that pertained to Windows in some fashion,
posted that said link here every two weeks?

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm


"Tim Robinson" wrote in message
...
I wouldn't dream of abusing my position as MVP, even if it is just to say
"I'm an MVP!".

But it seems odd that Timo continues to post his FAQs, in irrelevant
groups,
despite the fact that the resident MVPs in said groups have asked him not
to.

--
Tim Robinson (MVP, Windows SDK)
http://mobius.sourceforge.net/

David Candy wrote:
Excellent.


"Kelly" wrote in message
...
He slipped through, this time, David. But will be a goner soon.

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm


"David Candy" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 19:40:47 -0700, Hilary Karp
wrote:

There is absolutely no comparison between Tim and Kelly to make your
suggestion have even a miniscule amount of validity. Kelly contributes
tirelessly to help people out in these rooms. I have never seen Timo
contribute one thing here except for his spam. Kelly is one of the most
respected and well liked members of this community just because of all
she gives.

Not to knock Kelly, but these aren't "rooms", but usenet news
groups. MS has very cleverly made a web based usenet news reader
and called it their "community" and try to take credit for all
the postings. I assume you post through the below site, thinking
that it is all done by and under the control of MS. Bzzzzzt!
Below are your posting headers showing how your post are actually
being sent to usenet. Obviously MS is keeping you in the dark
about what is really going on.

http://communities2.microsoft.com/co...s/default.aspx

Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 19:40:47 -0700
From: Hilary Karp
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax)
X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: SPAM Alert
References:






In-Reply-To:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:
Newsgroups:
alt.msdos.batch.nt,microsoft.public.win2000.cmdpro mpt.admin,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
NNTP-Posting-Host: c-67-161-8-191.client.comcast.net 67.161.8.191
Path:
news.infoave.net!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.c om!easynews!news-feed01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net!nntp.frontiernet.net !nntp.giganews.com.MISMATCH!border1.nntp.dca.gigan ews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!TK2MSF TNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl
Lines: 1
Xref: news.infoave.net alt.msdos.batch.nt:20159
microsoft.public.win2000.cmdprompt.admin:21216
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:558873

Whatever name you apply to the beast, what I stated still applies. There
is no comparison.

Si Ballenger wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 19:40:47 -0700, Hilary Karp
wrote:


There is absolutely no comparison between Tim and Kelly to make your
suggestion have even a miniscule amount of validity. Kelly contributes
tirelessly to help people out in these rooms. I have never seen Timo
contribute one thing here except for his spam. Kelly is one of the most
respected and well liked members of this community just because of all
she gives.


Not to knock Kelly, but these aren't "rooms", but usenet news
groups. MS has very cleverly made a web based usenet news reader
and called it their "community" and try to take credit for all
the postings. I assume you post through the below site, thinking
that it is all done by and under the control of MS. Bzzzzzt!
Below are your posting headers showing how your post are actually
being sent to usenet. Obviously MS is keeping you in the dark
about what is really going on.

http://communities2.microsoft.com/co...s/default.aspx

Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 19:40:47 -0700
From: Hilary Karp
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax)
X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: SPAM Alert
References:






In-Reply-To:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID:
Newsgroups:
alt.msdos.batch.nt,microsoft.public.win2000.cmdpro mpt.admin,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
NNTP-Posting-Host: c-67-161-8-191.client.comcast.net 67.161.8.191
Path:
news.infoave.net!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.c om!easynews!news-feed01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net!nntp.frontiernet.net !nntp.giganews.com.MISMATCH!border1.nntp.dca.gigan ews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!TK2MSF TNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl
Lines: 1
Xref: news.infoave.net alt.msdos.batch.nt:20159
microsoft.public.win2000.cmdprompt.admin:21216
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:558873

Thanks, David and Hilary. Game playing is showing his true color, how sad.

What a mature approach and mindset, Timo!

--
Have a Great Day,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm


"Timo Salmi" wrote in message
...
Kelly wrote:
He slipped through, this time, David. But will be a goner soon.

Sounds a bit like a declaration of cancel-bot-wars. If need be, I
know how to play that particular game both ways, so please be
forewarned.

All the best, Timo

--
Prof. Timo Salmi ftp & http://garbo.uwasa.fi/ archives 193.166.120.5
Department of Accounting and Business Finance ; University of Vaasa
http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/ ; FIN-65101, Finland
Useful script files and tricks ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/link/tscmd.zip

Timo, your thread and all our replies have been deleted.

--=20
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"Timo Salmi" wrote in message =
...
Kelly wrote:
Tim,
=20
I won't counter the misspelling.
=20
As you know, this has been discussed for years in the MS groups, by =
MVP's=20
and non. Spam is spam. And it has been dealt with, accordingly.
=20
Why he continues, you ask? He can only answer that. An intricate=20
=20
Please show that you should be taken seriously by first doing some
proper cleaning of your own house:
=20
1) Anonymity
2) Overquoting
3) Top posting
4) Excessive signaturing
=20
With all those netiquette flaws there is no indication whether you
are on a bona fide mission or just part of the inevitable Usenet
news nuisance background noise. If good evidence of the former, then
I'll consider listening.
=20
The same goes likewise, or even more for your partner in arms David
Candy, exept that 1 is replaced by his (still worse) Nazi
insinuations and his uncouth language such as shown by
=20
All the best, Timo
=20
--=20
Prof. Timo Salmi ftp & http://garbo.uwasa.fi/ archives 193.166.120.5
Department of Accounting and Business Finance ; University of Vaasa
http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/ ; FIN-65101, Finland
Timo's FAQ materials at http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/http/tsfaq.html
=20

1. Kelly is well known. Her surname is part of one of her domain names. =
It's Theriot. Anyway in this group it is reccommended under the =
'charter' that anonymity be used. Kelly and I provide proper email =
addresses.
2. We quote fully in this group so threads can be followed. This group =
gets 2000 posts a day at least. Those that participate here delete post =
older than x days.
3. We can post however we want.
4. We can sig however we want.

However your posts AREN'T allowed, because it is spam. And you are =
posting your spam to two private NNTP newsgroups that are commercially =
owned and are for support of the owner's software.

I know you aren't very experienced in newsgroups, the equivalent of this =
groups charter is the Terms and Conditions of Use and the Rules of =
Conduct.. You are aware by posting here you give MS the right to use the =
material anyway they please. But then what would a nation of traitors.

If you actually participated here, rather than only spamming, people =
would tolerate your spam. But you DON'T participate here.

And I'm an australian. We speak real english. It's the americians who =
are overly polite (yet they kill all the time). So politness is not a =
virtue.

From http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
USE OF SERVICES
The Services may contain e-mail services, bulletin board services, chat =
areas, news groups, forums, communities, personal web pages, calendars, =
photo albums, file cabinets and/or other message or communication =
facilities designed to enable you to communicate with others (each a =
"Communication Service" and collectively "Communication Services"). You =
agree to use the Communication Services only to post, send and receive =
messages and material that are proper and, when applicable, related to =
the particular Communication Service. By way of example, and not as a =
limitation, you agree that when using the Communication Services, you =
will not:

=95 Use the Communication Services in connection with surveys, =
contests, pyramid schemes, chain letters, junk email, spamming or any =
duplicative or unsolicited messages (commercial or otherwise).
=20
=95 Defame, abuse, harass, stalk, threaten or otherwise violate =
the legal rights (such as rights of privacy and publicity) of others.
=20
=95 Publish, post, upload, distribute or disseminate any =
inappropriate, profane, defamatory, obscene, indecent or unlawful topic, =
name, material or information.
=20
=95 Upload, or otherwise make available, files that contain =
images, photographs, software or other material protected by =
intellectual property laws, including, by way of example, and not as =
limitation, copyright or trademark laws (or by rights of privacy or =
publicity) unless you own or control the rights thereto or have received =
all necessary consent to do the same.
=20
=95 Use any material or information, including images or =
photographs, which are made available through the Services in any manner =
that infringes any copyright, trademark, patent, trade secret, or other =
proprietary right of any party.
=20
=95 Upload files that contain viruses, Trojan horses, worms, time =
bombs, cancelbots, corrupted files, or any other similar software or =
programs that may damage the operation of another's computer or property =
of another.
=20
=95 Advertise or offer to sell or buy any goods or services for =
any business purpose, unless such Communication Services specifically =
allows such messages.
=20
=95 Download any file posted by another user of a Communication =
Service that you know, or reasonably should know, cannot be legally =
reproduced, displayed, performed, and/or distributed in such manner.
=20
=95 Falsify or delete any copyright management information, such =
as author attributions, legal or other proper notices or proprietary =
designations or labels of the origin or source of software or other =
material contained in a file that is uploaded.
=20
=95 Restrict or inhibit any other user from using and enjoying the =
Communication Services.
=20
=95 Violate any code of conduct or other guidelines which may be =
applicable for any particular Communication Service.
=20
=95 Harvest or otherwise collect information about others, =
including e-mail addresses.
=20
=95 Violate any applicable laws or regulations.
=20
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'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"Timo Salmi" wrote in message =
...
Kelly wrote:
Tim,
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I won't counter the misspelling.
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As you know, this has been discussed for years in the MS groups, by =
MVP's=20
and non. Spam is spam. And it has been dealt with, accordingly.
=20
Why he continues, you ask? He can only answer that. An intricate=20
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Please show that you should be taken seriously by first doing some
proper cleaning of your own house:
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1) Anonymity
2) Overquoting
3) Top posting
4) Excessive signaturing
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With all those netiquette flaws there is no indication whether you
are on a bona fide mission or just part of the inevitable Usenet
news nuisance background noise. If good evidence of the former, then
I'll consider listening.
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The same goes likewise, or even more for your partner in arms David
Candy, exept that 1 is replaced by his (still worse) Nazi
insinuations and his uncouth language such as shown by
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All the best, Timo
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Prof. Timo Salmi ftp & http://garbo.uwasa.fi/ archives 193.166.120.5
Department of Accounting and Business Finance ; University of Vaasa
http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/ ; FIN-65101, Finland
Timo's FAQ materials at http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/http/tsfaq.html
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