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  #46  
Old February 19th 13, 10:51 PM posted to alt.cellular.verizon,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 2/16/2013 8:16 PM, Paul wrote:
BillW50 wrote:
On 2/16/2013 3:37 PM, Paul wrote:



(Unix-like)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ory-simple.svg


Paul


Anything regarding IM for Linux is really stripped down and isn't
worth much. The only thing for IM for Linux is somewhat respectable is
Skype, which I never used for Linux, but what I have heard. Everything
else for Linux is pretty much plain text and that is it.

Are there malware associated with IM software? Yes I have heard this
too. Although all of the attempts I have seen requires user
interaction. Like clicking on a link or something. I suppose this
isn't always the case, but I have never run across it yet.

Does the proprietary IM services foil to disable other third party IM
software? Yes indeed they do. While it has been done time and time
again, Trillian has a team that quickly patches theirs to work with
the changes. I don't know who all works with them, but they are indeed
very good. Others are not so lucky.

Java? Java is a malware magnetic. If that isn't bad enough, Java is
very slow. I guess for some, slow is ok. But I don't like slow coding.
Plus it is more difficult to protect against Java malware.


I see I forgot to paste the other link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...saging_clients

That has some useful tables in it.

Paul


Yes, I am familiar with most of them. This table is very lacking though.
There are things like fonts, bold, italics, underline, emoticons, mic,
webcam, etc. that they don't tell you about.

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  #47  
Old February 19th 13, 10:53 PM posted to alt.cellular.verizon,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 2/16/2013 6:46 PM, becky wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:10:47 -0600, wrote:


Anything regarding IM for Linux is really stripped down and isn't worth
much. The only thing for IM for Linux is somewhat respectable is Skype,
which I never used for Linux, but what I have heard. Everything else for
Linux is pretty much plain text and that is it.


you like to get nekkid and show yer junk on that there video skyp?


No, not really. But when someone suddenly stops typing and you see them
walk away or not there, it make total sense. ;-)

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Old February 19th 13, 10:55 PM posted to alt.cellular.verizon,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 2/16/2013 10:21 PM, Justin wrote:
BillW50 wrote on [Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:10:47 -0600]:

Anything regarding IM for Linux is really stripped down and isn't worth
much. The only thing for IM for Linux is somewhat respectable is Skype,
which I never used for Linux, but what I have heard. Everything else for
Linux is pretty much plain text and that is it.


That's what IM is, plain text.


Naw... it is much more than that. Fonts, italics, bold, underline,
emoticons, mic, webcam, file transfers, etc.

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  #49  
Old February 20th 13, 12:34 AM posted to alt.cellular.verizon,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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BillW50 wrote on [Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:55:13 -0600]:
On 2/16/2013 10:21 PM, Justin wrote:
BillW50 wrote on [Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:10:47 -0600]:

Anything regarding IM for Linux is really stripped down and isn't worth
much. The only thing for IM for Linux is somewhat respectable is Skype,
which I never used for Linux, but what I have heard. Everything else for
Linux is pretty much plain text and that is it.


That's what IM is, plain text.


Naw... it is much more than that. Fonts, italics, bold, underline,
emoticons, mic, webcam, file transfers, etc.


Webcam is not a requirement of IM. Nor is microphone.
I've never had a problem with any of these though
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Old February 20th 13, 12:49 AM posted to alt.cellular.verizon,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:44:15 -0600, BillW50 wrote:

I have been waiting for Linux to catch up since '95. Sadly Linus
Torvalds, his father, and his sister even uses Windows. Only Linus'
mother uses Linux. That should tell you something right there.


His mother is the only smart one in the family?

Disclaimer: I use Windows :-)

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  #51  
Old February 20th 13, 01:02 AM posted to alt.cellular.verizon,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 2/19/2013 5:34 PM, Justin wrote:
BillW50 wrote on [Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:55:13 -0600]:
On 2/16/2013 10:21 PM, Justin wrote:
BillW50 wrote on [Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:10:47 -0600]:

Anything regarding IM for Linux is really stripped down and isn't worth
much. The only thing for IM for Linux is somewhat respectable is Skype,
which I never used for Linux, but what I have heard. Everything else for
Linux is pretty much plain text and that is it.

That's what IM is, plain text.


Naw... it is much more than that. Fonts, italics, bold, underline,
emoticons, mic, webcam, file transfers, etc.


Webcam is not a requirement of IM. Nor is microphone.
I've never had a problem with any of these though


Lots of problems with Linux. As Linux has the most limited support for
IM among other things. And as far as I know, there is no such thing as
an IM standard. They are all proprietary AFAIK. And I think this is the
best myself. As let the best one win and we don't need any group like
WC3 to make themselves king and screw up everything. I didn't vote for
them, nor do they take any votes. They make themselves dictators and
that is how they work.

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  #52  
Old February 20th 13, 01:15 AM posted to alt.cellular.verizon,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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BillW50 wrote on [Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:02:42 -0600]:
On 2/19/2013 5:34 PM, Justin wrote:
BillW50 wrote on [Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:55:13 -0600]:
On 2/16/2013 10:21 PM, Justin wrote:
BillW50 wrote on [Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:10:47 -0600]:

Anything regarding IM for Linux is really stripped down and isn't worth
much. The only thing for IM for Linux is somewhat respectable is Skype,
which I never used for Linux, but what I have heard. Everything else for
Linux is pretty much plain text and that is it.

That's what IM is, plain text.

Naw... it is much more than that. Fonts, italics, bold, underline,
emoticons, mic, webcam, file transfers, etc.


Webcam is not a requirement of IM. Nor is microphone.
I've never had a problem with any of these though


Lots of problems with Linux. As Linux has the most limited support for


Yep, must be some PEBCAK issues

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Old February 20th 13, 01:23 AM posted to alt.cellular.verizon,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 2/19/2013 5:49 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:44:15 -0600, BillW50 wrote:

I have been waiting for Linux to catch up since '95. Sadly Linus
Torvalds, his father, and his sister even uses Windows. Only Linus'
mother uses Linux. That should tell you something right there.


His mother is the only smart one in the family?

Disclaimer: I use Windows :-)


I use both Linux and Windows. And Linux got to be the worst! The
majority of the Linux programmers are rejects that couldn't get a real
job programming. Most of your smart devices use Linux like Microwaves,
smart phones, routers, broadband modems, etc. And they work for a day or
two and then you have to reboot them. I have never seen such an unstable
OS since IBM had taken over OS/2. I have no idea how IBM programmers got
their jobs, as they got to be the worst of the lot. About on par with
open source programmers. :-(

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Old February 20th 13, 01:27 AM posted to alt.cellular.verizon,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 2/19/2013 6:15 PM, Justin wrote:
BillW50 wrote on [Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:02:42 -0600]:
On 2/19/2013 5:34 PM, Justin wrote:
BillW50 wrote on [Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:55:13 -0600]:
On 2/16/2013 10:21 PM, Justin wrote:
BillW50 wrote on [Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:10:47 -0600]:

Anything regarding IM for Linux is really stripped down and isn't worth
much. The only thing for IM for Linux is somewhat respectable is Skype,
which I never used for Linux, but what I have heard. Everything else for
Linux is pretty much plain text and that is it.

That's what IM is, plain text.

Naw... it is much more than that. Fonts, italics, bold, underline,
emoticons, mic, webcam, file transfers, etc.

Webcam is not a requirement of IM. Nor is microphone.
I've never had a problem with any of these though


Lots of problems with Linux. As Linux has the most limited support for


Yep, must be some PEBCAK issues


You wish Justin. I am a perfectionists and I can find bugs that nobody
else can find. While you are fine with crap, I am not! I know it can be
done better and I will not accept anything substandard.

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Old February 20th 13, 03:05 AM posted to alt.cellular.verizon,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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BillW50 wrote on [Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:27:23 -0600]:
On 2/19/2013 6:15 PM, Justin wrote:
BillW50 wrote on [Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:02:42 -0600]:
On 2/19/2013 5:34 PM, Justin wrote:
BillW50 wrote on [Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:55:13 -0600]:
On 2/16/2013 10:21 PM, Justin wrote:
BillW50 wrote on [Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:10:47 -0600]:

Anything regarding IM for Linux is really stripped down and isn't worth
much. The only thing for IM for Linux is somewhat respectable is Skype,
which I never used for Linux, but what I have heard. Everything else for
Linux is pretty much plain text and that is it.

That's what IM is, plain text.

Naw... it is much more than that. Fonts, italics, bold, underline,
emoticons, mic, webcam, file transfers, etc.

Webcam is not a requirement of IM. Nor is microphone.
I've never had a problem with any of these though

Lots of problems with Linux. As Linux has the most limited support for


Yep, must be some PEBCAK issues


You wish Justin. I am a perfectionists and I can find bugs that nobody
else can find.


hahahahahahahah

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Old February 20th 13, 03:06 AM posted to alt.cellular.verizon,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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BillW50 wrote on [Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:23:57 -0600]:
On 2/19/2013 5:49 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:44:15 -0600, BillW50 wrote:

I have been waiting for Linux to catch up since '95. Sadly Linus
Torvalds, his father, and his sister even uses Windows. Only Linus'
mother uses Linux. That should tell you something right there.


His mother is the only smart one in the family?

Disclaimer: I use Windows :-)


I use both Linux and Windows. And Linux got to be the worst! The


Yes, Windows needs to be rebooted daily or weekly and sometimes Linux
needs to be rebooted annually

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Old February 20th 13, 04:24 AM posted to alt.cellular.verizon,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:27:23 -0600, BillW50 wrote:

I am a perfectionists ...


Do tell :-) .

... and I can find bugs that nobody else can find.


And conversely, it would appear :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp
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Old February 20th 13, 05:13 AM posted to alt.cellular.verizon,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 02/19/2013 08:06 PM, Justin wrote:
Yes, Windows needs to be rebooted daily or weekly and sometimes Linux
needs to be rebooted annually



I had a Debian Sarge BIND9 DNS server that ran for 6-1/2 years without rebooting.

Then I accidentally killed the power to the UPS, and the battery was too old
to keep it running. :-(

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Old February 20th 13, 05:16 AM posted to alt.cellular.verizon,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 02/19/2013 06:15 PM, Justin wrote:
BillW50 wrote on [Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:02:42 -0600]:
On 2/19/2013 5:34 PM, Justin wrote:
BillW50 wrote on [Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:55:13 -0600]:
On 2/16/2013 10:21 PM, Justin wrote:
BillW50 wrote on [Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:10:47 -0600]:
Anything regarding IM for Linux is really stripped down and isn't worth
much. The only thing for IM for Linux is somewhat respectable is Skype,
which I never used for Linux, but what I have heard. Everything else for
Linux is pretty much plain text and that is it.
That's what IM is, plain text.
Naw... it is much more than that. Fonts, italics, bold, underline,
emoticons, mic, webcam, file transfers, etc.
Webcam is not a requirement of IM. Nor is microphone.
I've never had a problem with any of these though

Lots of problems with Linux. As Linux has the most limited support for

Yep, must be some PEBCAK issues



That is Bill, the child molester.

Must have served out his latest sentence.

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Old February 20th 13, 06:14 AM posted to alt.cellular.verizon,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, BillW50 said:

I use both Linux and Windows. And Linux got to be the worst! The
majority of the Linux programmers are rejects that couldn't get a real
job programming. Most of your smart devices use Linux like Microwaves,
smart phones, routers, broadband modems, etc. And they work for a day or
two and then you have to reboot them. I have never seen such an unstable
OS since IBM had taken over OS/2. I have no idea how IBM programmers got
their jobs, as they got to be the worst of the lot. About on par with
open source programmers. :-(


Android is Open Source...

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