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MS 8.1 Update
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. . .winston wrote: Keith Nuttle wrote: I downloaded the MS up date yesterday it comes with several critical and one optional update. The optional update is as large as the several critical updates. Once applied I did not note any obvious differences. In fact from all of the hype leading up to the update, I was slightly disappointed. After the update I had to update Adobe Shockwave. Has this upgrade gone that smooth that no one had problems, or have I been tricked into download near 400 MB of male ware. ;-) Please don't say Yes Hi, Keith Nothing earthshaking for this update (aka August update and incorrectly referred to as Update 2). Some under-the-hood and some features. MSFT lingo qp ..customers can expect that we’ll use our already existing monthly update process to deliver more frequent improvements along with the security updates normally provided as part of “Update Tuesday.” So despite rumors and speculation, we are not planning to deliver a Windows 8.1 “Update 2.” /qp In this case those features/improvements appear to be centered on only a few areas - touchpad, Miracast Receive, Login prompt delay for online Sharepointe. Afiacs, any significant changes won't be available until next year (April 2015) when Windows 9 (or whatever its called) will hit GA (General Availability) after RTM (Release to Manufacturing). Do you know if Windows 9 will be a rental? Nothing public is available on the form. The current 'rumor' is that the next Windows will be available in the same/similar forms as in the past for Consumers and Enterprise though a lease-type/subscription version of the same deployment type as Office 365 would seem to be expected/inevitable for Win9 or later. Other things of note that could have an impact. Office 2013 (not 365) is no longer available as media in the retail market (product pack includes a Product Key and download link). Currently Windows 8.1 is only available as full version no upgrade (Download from MSFT with media extra cost *or* Retail and OEM/System Builder with media) - thus Win9 could also follow one of both of those paths (no media, all full version)in addition to a subscription version. A few things seem probable based on how Win8.1 was handled. - Windows 9, like Windows 8.1 won't be designed for installation on pcs running Vista or XP. - Upgrade installs using the full version (download or media) will only retain files/settings when a supported o/s is present on the machine (Win7, Win8, Win8.1 and/or setup.exe is run from within that supported system...though its possible that Win7 to Win9 will only be custom installs. Custom installs are clean installs. As with anything MSFT, we'll know when they tell us. -- ...winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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.. . .winston wrote:
A wrote: . . .winston wrote: Keith Nuttle wrote: I downloaded the MS up date yesterday it comes with several critical and one optional update. The optional update is as large as the several critical updates. Once applied I did not note any obvious differences. In fact from all of the hype leading up to the update, I was slightly disappointed. After the update I had to update Adobe Shockwave. Has this upgrade gone that smooth that no one had problems, or have I been tricked into download near 400 MB of male ware. ;-) Please don't say Yes Hi, Keith Nothing earthshaking for this update (aka August update and incorrectly referred to as Update 2). Some under-the-hood and some features. MSFT lingo qp ..customers can expect that we’ll use our already existing monthly update process to deliver more frequent improvements along with the security updates normally provided as part of “Update Tuesday.” So despite rumors and speculation, we are not planning to deliver a Windows 8.1 “Update 2.” /qp In this case those features/improvements appear to be centered on only a few areas - touchpad, Miracast Receive, Login prompt delay for online Sharepointe. Afiacs, any significant changes won't be available until next year (April 2015) when Windows 9 (or whatever its called) will hit GA (General Availability) after RTM (Release to Manufacturing). Do you know if Windows 9 will be a rental? Nothing public is available on the form. The current 'rumor' is that the next Windows will be available in the same/similar forms as in the past for Consumers and Enterprise though a lease-type/subscription version of the same deployment type as Office 365 would seem to be expected/inevitable for Win9 or later. Other things of note that could have an impact. Office 2013 (not 365) is no longer available as media in the retail market (product pack includes a Product Key and download link). Currently Windows 8.1 is only available as full version no upgrade (Download from MSFT with media extra cost *or* Retail and OEM/System Builder with media) - thus Win9 could also follow one of both of those paths (no media, all full version)in addition to a subscription version. A few things seem probable based on how Win8.1 was handled. - Windows 9, like Windows 8.1 won't be designed for installation on pcs running Vista or XP. - Upgrade installs using the full version (download or media) will only retain files/settings when a supported o/s is present on the machine (Win7, Win8, Win8.1 and/or setup.exe is run from within that supported system...though its possible that Win7 to Win9 will only be custom installs. Custom installs are clean installs. As with anything MSFT, we'll know when they tell us. Thanks. I hope 9 isn't a rental only but, if so, I will continue to use 7 and 8 and slowly migrate to Linux. The idea that the OS, programs and data is on their servers doesn't appeal to me very much. I can, though, see how they will be able to sell it to users who just want it to work and don't want to know how it works, how to fix it if it stops working or have to do any updating. -- A |
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"s|b" wrote... On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 08:19:19 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: Once applied I did not note any obvious differences. In fact from all of the hype leading up to the update, I was slightly disappointed. Isn't that always the case? ;-) After the update I had to update Adobe Shockwave. I think you mean Flash Player, but in case you do mean Shockwave: try uninstalling it. There's a good chance you don't need (same thing with Java). Adobe Flash Player ActiveX and Adobe Flash Player Plugin are called Shockwave Flash in IE and FF. |
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On 2014-08-13 1:29 PM, A wrote:
. . .winston wrote: A wrote: . . .winston wrote: Keith Nuttle wrote: I downloaded the MS up date yesterday it comes with several critical and one optional update. The optional update is as large as the several critical updates. Once applied I did not note any obvious differences. In fact from all of the hype leading up to the update, I was slightly disappointed. After the update I had to update Adobe Shockwave. Has this upgrade gone that smooth that no one had problems, or have I been tricked into download near 400 MB of male ware. ;-) Please don't say Yes Hi, Keith Nothing earthshaking for this update (aka August update and incorrectly referred to as Update 2). Some under-the-hood and some features. MSFT lingo qp ..customers can expect that we’ll use our already existing monthly update process to deliver more frequent improvements along with the security updates normally provided as part of “Update Tuesday.” So despite rumors and speculation, we are not planning to deliver a Windows 8.1 “Update 2.” /qp In this case those features/improvements appear to be centered on only a few areas - touchpad, Miracast Receive, Login prompt delay for online Sharepointe. Afiacs, any significant changes won't be available until next year (April 2015) when Windows 9 (or whatever its called) will hit GA (General Availability) after RTM (Release to Manufacturing). Do you know if Windows 9 will be a rental? Nothing public is available on the form. The current 'rumor' is that the next Windows will be available in the same/similar forms as in the past for Consumers and Enterprise though a lease-type/subscription version of the same deployment type as Office 365 would seem to be expected/inevitable for Win9 or later. Other things of note that could have an impact. Office 2013 (not 365) is no longer available as media in the retail market (product pack includes a Product Key and download link). Currently Windows 8.1 is only available as full version no upgrade (Download from MSFT with media extra cost *or* Retail and OEM/System Builder with media) - thus Win9 could also follow one of both of those paths (no media, all full version)in addition to a subscription version. A few things seem probable based on how Win8.1 was handled. - Windows 9, like Windows 8.1 won't be designed for installation on pcs running Vista or XP. - Upgrade installs using the full version (download or media) will only retain files/settings when a supported o/s is present on the machine (Win7, Win8, Win8.1 and/or setup.exe is run from within that supported system...though its possible that Win7 to Win9 will only be custom installs. Custom installs are clean installs. As with anything MSFT, we'll know when they tell us. Thanks. I hope 9 isn't a rental only but, if so, I will continue to use 7 and 8 and slowly migrate to Linux. The idea that the OS, programs and data is on their servers doesn't appeal to me very much. I can, though, see how they will be able to sell it to users who just want it to work and don't want to know how it works, how to fix it if it stops working or have to do any updating. If they have an approach to the operating system similar to what they have with Office 365, count me in. I find Office 365 INCREDIBLY convenient and love the fact that it saves everything to OneDrive by default. It is virtually impossible to delete any of your work in progress as a result of this default feature. If Microsoft wants to charge me say 5$ or 10$ per months to make sure that my Windows installation updates for as long as I keep paying while still offering stand-alone Windows versions like they do with Office, I'd be very fine with that. -- Silver Slimer OpenMedia Supporter GNU/Linux is a dangerous attack on your data |
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Silver Slimer wrote:
On 2014-08-13 1:29 PM, A wrote: . . .winston wrote: A wrote: . . .winston wrote: Keith Nuttle wrote: I downloaded the MS up date yesterday it comes with several critical and one optional update. The optional update is as large as the several critical updates. Once applied I did not note any obvious differences. In fact from all of the hype leading up to the update, I was slightly disappointed. After the update I had to update Adobe Shockwave. Has this upgrade gone that smooth that no one had problems, or have I been tricked into download near 400 MB of male ware. ;-) Please don't say Yes Hi, Keith Nothing earthshaking for this update (aka August update and incorrectly referred to as Update 2). Some under-the-hood and some features. MSFT lingo qp ..customers can expect that we’ll use our already existing monthly update process to deliver more frequent improvements along with the security updates normally provided as part of “Update Tuesday.” So despite rumors and speculation, we are not planning to deliver a Windows 8.1 “Update 2.” /qp In this case those features/improvements appear to be centered on only a few areas - touchpad, Miracast Receive, Login prompt delay for online Sharepointe. Afiacs, any significant changes won't be available until next year (April 2015) when Windows 9 (or whatever its called) will hit GA (General Availability) after RTM (Release to Manufacturing). Do you know if Windows 9 will be a rental? Nothing public is available on the form. The current 'rumor' is that the next Windows will be available in the same/similar forms as in the past for Consumers and Enterprise though a lease-type/subscription version of the same deployment type as Office 365 would seem to be expected/inevitable for Win9 or later. Other things of note that could have an impact. Office 2013 (not 365) is no longer available as media in the retail market (product pack includes a Product Key and download link). Currently Windows 8.1 is only available as full version no upgrade (Download from MSFT with media extra cost *or* Retail and OEM/System Builder with media) - thus Win9 could also follow one of both of those paths (no media, all full version)in addition to a subscription version. A few things seem probable based on how Win8.1 was handled. - Windows 9, like Windows 8.1 won't be designed for installation on pcs running Vista or XP. - Upgrade installs using the full version (download or media) will only retain files/settings when a supported o/s is present on the machine (Win7, Win8, Win8.1 and/or setup.exe is run from within that supported system...though its possible that Win7 to Win9 will only be custom installs. Custom installs are clean installs. As with anything MSFT, we'll know when they tell us. Thanks. I hope 9 isn't a rental only but, if so, I will continue to use 7 and 8 and slowly migrate to Linux. The idea that the OS, programs and data is on their servers doesn't appeal to me very much. I can, though, see how they will be able to sell it to users who just want it to work and don't want to know how it works, how to fix it if it stops working or have to do any updating. If they have an approach to the operating system similar to what they have with Office 365, count me in. I find Office 365 INCREDIBLY convenient and love the fact that it saves everything to OneDrive by default. It is virtually impossible to delete any of your work in progress as a result of this default feature. If Microsoft wants to charge me say 5$ or 10$ per months to make sure that my Windows installation updates for as long as I keep paying while still offering stand-alone Windows versions like they do with Office, I'd be very fine with that. You're the kind of sheep MS just loves. I'm sure businesses that want to protect intellectual property would disagree with you. Even Microsoft can be hacked. And if you miss a payment, bye bye data. You say you would never miss a payment? If so, you're pretty ****ing stupid. $5 or $10 a month? LOL! You're kidding, right? -- A |
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On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 20:31:20 +0300, Live wrote:
Adobe Flash Player ActiveX and Adobe Flash Player Plugin are called Shockwave Flash in IE and FF. Hence my comment 'I think you mean Flash Player,'. -- s|b |
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On 2014-08-13 1:49 PM, A wrote:
Silver Slimer wrote: On 2014-08-13 1:29 PM, A wrote: . . .winston wrote: A wrote: . . .winston wrote: Keith Nuttle wrote: I downloaded the MS up date yesterday it comes with several critical and one optional update. The optional update is as large as the several critical updates. Once applied I did not note any obvious differences. In fact from all of the hype leading up to the update, I was slightly disappointed. After the update I had to update Adobe Shockwave. Has this upgrade gone that smooth that no one had problems, or have I been tricked into download near 400 MB of male ware. ;-) Please don't say Yes Hi, Keith Nothing earthshaking for this update (aka August update and incorrectly referred to as Update 2). Some under-the-hood and some features. MSFT lingo qp ..customers can expect that we’ll use our already existing monthly update process to deliver more frequent improvements along with the security updates normally provided as part of “Update Tuesday.” So despite rumors and speculation, we are not planning to deliver a Windows 8.1 “Update 2.” /qp In this case those features/improvements appear to be centered on only a few areas - touchpad, Miracast Receive, Login prompt delay for online Sharepointe. Afiacs, any significant changes won't be available until next year (April 2015) when Windows 9 (or whatever its called) will hit GA (General Availability) after RTM (Release to Manufacturing). Do you know if Windows 9 will be a rental? Nothing public is available on the form. The current 'rumor' is that the next Windows will be available in the same/similar forms as in the past for Consumers and Enterprise though a lease-type/subscription version of the same deployment type as Office 365 would seem to be expected/inevitable for Win9 or later. Other things of note that could have an impact. Office 2013 (not 365) is no longer available as media in the retail market (product pack includes a Product Key and download link). Currently Windows 8.1 is only available as full version no upgrade (Download from MSFT with media extra cost *or* Retail and OEM/System Builder with media) - thus Win9 could also follow one of both of those paths (no media, all full version)in addition to a subscription version. A few things seem probable based on how Win8.1 was handled. - Windows 9, like Windows 8.1 won't be designed for installation on pcs running Vista or XP. - Upgrade installs using the full version (download or media) will only retain files/settings when a supported o/s is present on the machine (Win7, Win8, Win8.1 and/or setup.exe is run from within that supported system...though its possible that Win7 to Win9 will only be custom installs. Custom installs are clean installs. As with anything MSFT, we'll know when they tell us. Thanks. I hope 9 isn't a rental only but, if so, I will continue to use 7 and 8 and slowly migrate to Linux. The idea that the OS, programs and data is on their servers doesn't appeal to me very much. I can, though, see how they will be able to sell it to users who just want it to work and don't want to know how it works, how to fix it if it stops working or have to do any updating. If they have an approach to the operating system similar to what they have with Office 365, count me in. I find Office 365 INCREDIBLY convenient and love the fact that it saves everything to OneDrive by default. It is virtually impossible to delete any of your work in progress as a result of this default feature. If Microsoft wants to charge me say 5$ or 10$ per months to make sure that my Windows installation updates for as long as I keep paying while still offering stand-alone Windows versions like they do with Office, I'd be very fine with that. You're the kind of sheep MS just loves. I'm sure businesses that want to protect intellectual property would disagree with you. Even Microsoft can be hacked. And if you miss a payment, bye bye data. You say you would never miss a payment? If so, you're pretty ****ing stupid. $5 or $10 a month? LOL! You're kidding, right? Considering Office costs about as much as Windows does for a license, I don't see why they would charge more than 10$. As for never missing a payment, I have excellent credit and constantly have funds in my bank account so I can't imagine why I would miss a payment. If wanting to have the latest versions of both Office and Windows because they are clearly better than the alternatives makes me a sheep though, you must not have as deep an appreciation for quality work as I do. No, GNU/Linux and LibreOffice are not quality work in comparison to Windows and MS Office. -- Silver Slimer OpenMedia Supporter GNU/Linux is a dangerous attack on your data |
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Silver Slimer wrote:
On 2014-08-13 1:49 PM, A wrote: Silver Slimer wrote: On 2014-08-13 1:29 PM, A wrote: . . .winston wrote: A wrote: . . .winston wrote: Keith Nuttle wrote: I downloaded the MS up date yesterday it comes with several critical and one optional update. The optional update is as large as the several critical updates. Once applied I did not note any obvious differences. In fact from all of the hype leading up to the update, I was slightly disappointed. After the update I had to update Adobe Shockwave. Has this upgrade gone that smooth that no one had problems, or have I been tricked into download near 400 MB of male ware. ;-) Please don't say Yes Hi, Keith Nothing earthshaking for this update (aka August update and incorrectly referred to as Update 2). Some under-the-hood and some features. MSFT lingo qp ..customers can expect that we’ll use our already existing monthly update process to deliver more frequent improvements along with the security updates normally provided as part of “Update Tuesday.” So despite rumors and speculation, we are not planning to deliver a Windows 8.1 “Update 2.” /qp In this case those features/improvements appear to be centered on only a few areas - touchpad, Miracast Receive, Login prompt delay for online Sharepointe. Afiacs, any significant changes won't be available until next year (April 2015) when Windows 9 (or whatever its called) will hit GA (General Availability) after RTM (Release to Manufacturing). Do you know if Windows 9 will be a rental? Nothing public is available on the form. The current 'rumor' is that the next Windows will be available in the same/similar forms as in the past for Consumers and Enterprise though a lease-type/subscription version of the same deployment type as Office 365 would seem to be expected/inevitable for Win9 or later. Other things of note that could have an impact. Office 2013 (not 365) is no longer available as media in the retail market (product pack includes a Product Key and download link). Currently Windows 8.1 is only available as full version no upgrade (Download from MSFT with media extra cost *or* Retail and OEM/System Builder with media) - thus Win9 could also follow one of both of those paths (no media, all full version)in addition to a subscription version. A few things seem probable based on how Win8.1 was handled. - Windows 9, like Windows 8.1 won't be designed for installation on pcs running Vista or XP. - Upgrade installs using the full version (download or media) will only retain files/settings when a supported o/s is present on the machine (Win7, Win8, Win8.1 and/or setup.exe is run from within that supported system...though its possible that Win7 to Win9 will only be custom installs. Custom installs are clean installs. As with anything MSFT, we'll know when they tell us. Thanks. I hope 9 isn't a rental only but, if so, I will continue to use 7 and 8 and slowly migrate to Linux. The idea that the OS, programs and data is on their servers doesn't appeal to me very much. I can, though, see how they will be able to sell it to users who just want it to work and don't want to know how it works, how to fix it if it stops working or have to do any updating. If they have an approach to the operating system similar to what they have with Office 365, count me in. I find Office 365 INCREDIBLY convenient and love the fact that it saves everything to OneDrive by default. It is virtually impossible to delete any of your work in progress as a result of this default feature. If Microsoft wants to charge me say 5$ or 10$ per months to make sure that my Windows installation updates for as long as I keep paying while still offering stand-alone Windows versions like they do with Office, I'd be very fine with that. You're the kind of sheep MS just loves. I'm sure businesses that want to protect intellectual property would disagree with you. Even Microsoft can be hacked. And if you miss a payment, bye bye data. You say you would never miss a payment? If so, you're pretty ****ing stupid. $5 or $10 a month? LOL! You're kidding, right? Considering Office costs about as much as Windows does for a license, I don't see why they would charge more than 10$. Like heroin, at first it's cheap until you get hooked and then the price goes up. Once they've moved to ALL rental, watch the price go up. Where else would someone like you go? They will have you by the short hairs and can charge whatever they want. As for never missing a payment, I have excellent credit and constantly have funds in my bank account so I can't imagine why I would miss a payment. You do now. This could change in a split second. I imagine you don't know how. If wanting to have the latest versions of both Office and Windows because they are clearly better "Better" is a subjective opinion, not a fact. than the alternatives makes me a sheep though, you must not have as deep an appreciation for quality work as I do. "Quality of work" is a subjective opinion, not a fact. No, GNU/Linux and LibreOffice are not quality work in comparison to Windows and MS Office. Depends on the work you do. Again, "quality" is a subjective opinion, not a fact and I'm not talking about now. Windows 8 and Office 2013 will be supported for a long time and Linux will continue to improve so we won't really know until then. For the work I do, the only thing I would miss would be Outlook. -- A |
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On 2014-08-13 2:40 PM, A wrote:
If they have an approach to the operating system similar to what they have with Office 365, count me in. I find Office 365 INCREDIBLY convenient and love the fact that it saves everything to OneDrive by default. It is virtually impossible to delete any of your work in progress as a result of this default feature. If Microsoft wants to charge me say 5$ or 10$ per months to make sure that my Windows installation updates for as long as I keep paying while still offering stand-alone Windows versions like they do with Office, I'd be very fine with that. You're the kind of sheep MS just loves. I'm sure businesses that want to protect intellectual property would disagree with you. Even Microsoft can be hacked. And if you miss a payment, bye bye data. You say you would never miss a payment? If so, you're pretty ****ing stupid. $5 or $10 a month? LOL! You're kidding, right? Considering Office costs about as much as Windows does for a license, I don't see why they would charge more than 10$. Like heroin, at first it's cheap until you get hooked and then the price goes up. Once they've moved to ALL rental, watch the price go up. Where else would someone like you go? They will have you by the short hairs and can charge whatever they want. That's why the stand-alone versions of Office exist as well, if ever people are worried that their data might be taken hostage. You're not FORCED to use Office 365 the same way you wouldn't be forced to install Windows 365 either. As for never missing a payment, I have excellent credit and constantly have funds in my bank account so I can't imagine why I would miss a payment. You do now. This could change in a split second. I imagine you don't know how. My wife and I have very stable incomes coming from very stable jobs. My job is essentially protected no matter how badly the economy is doing (which is why I went into the field) whereas my wife benefits greatly from the economy whether it goes down or not. Depends on the work you do. Again, "quality" is a subjective opinion, not a fact and I'm not talking about now. Windows 8 and Office 2013 will be supported for a long time and Linux will continue to improve so we won't really know until then. For the work I do, the only thing I would miss would be Outlook. GNU/Linux has been steadily improving for two decades and has yet to become anything better than pure ****. -- Silver Slimer OpenMedia Supporter GNU/Linux is a dangerous attack on your data |
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On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 08:19:19 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: Once applied I did not note any obvious differences. In fact from all of the hype leading up to the update, I was slightly disappointed. Isn't that always the case? ;-) After the update I had to update Adobe Shockwave. I think you mean Flash Player, but in case you do mean Shockwave: try uninstalling it. There's a good chance you don't need (same thing with Java). "August 2014 update rollup for ... Windows 8.1" http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2975719 "Out-of-date ActiveX control blocking" Which when you find the appropriate description, it's a keyword that means "Flash blocking". It's not all ActiveX items, not by a long shot. It's just for Flash, based on too many exploits relying on old versions of Flash. And I like how they call it an "update rollup" and not "Update 2". Large distinction there. Call in the archaeologists :-) Why didn't they invent a new name, like "gleeful patch" or something. Or maybe "pointless patch". There's a ton of names I can think of. Paul |
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Thanks. I hope 9 isn't a rental only but, if so, I will continue to use 7 and 8 and slowly migrate to Linux. The idea that the OS, programs and data is on their servers doesn't appeal to me very much. I can, though, see how they will be able to sell it to users who just want it to work and don't want to know how it works, how to fix it if it stops working or have to do any updating. There's probably room for both in the market. I'm actually quite surprised how many consumers and businesses have opted into the Office 365 approach. While 365 defaults to the cloud upon installation, its easily changed to local storage or if available local cloud...data can be saved locally at any time. Also 365 SB comes provides 25GB per mail box plus 1TB OneDrive storage per user. In fact Office 365 Small Business Premium ($150/yr five users = $2.50 per user per month - up to 25 max users) and Office 365 Enterprise include the desktop version of Office. Newsgroups opinions and positions have a lot of their foundation (like many of us here) in supporting yesterday's model. It should be fairly obvious to anyone here and elsewhere that the ecosystem is changing not just for Windows but software including 3rd party. As you've noted elsewhere, subscription pricing can go up. But that same occurs with non-subcription based software. (Not everything goes up...MSN Premium subscription (providing 10 email addresses, 15GB OneDrive, 10GB email capacity but capable of automatically increasing with use and reputation of use) has been the same price for over 2 decades g) Thus I wouldn't be too hasty to judge what other's need (or want). What seems certain, at least to me, the future will continue to be different than the past and like everyone has since that first version of Windows and Office was released we'll adapt or be left behind (or we'll expire and not have to worry about anything) -- ...winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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On 13/08/2014 13:19, Keith Nuttle wrote:
In fact from all of the hype leading up to the update, I was slightly disappointed. Has this upgrade gone that smooth that no one had problems, or have I been tricked into download near 400 MB of male ware. ;-) Please don't say Yes Not sure what this hype you are talking about unless you were reading posts from that drug addict who keeps copying and pasting various irrelevant news items from everywhere. I haven't installed any yet but I always wait for quite a while until the normal quarter days are with us. I guess the term "Quarter Days" only applies to us, the brits. |
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On 13/08/2014 18:21, . . .winston wrote:
- thus Win9 could also follow one of both of those paths (no media, all full version)in addition to a subscription version. I am not surprised because more and more OEMs (DELL for example) are not installing CD/DVD Roms so they are becoming obsolete like old 3.5 disk drives. Also, to distribute applications on a USB flash drive is not convenient because of the bulkiness!!! I recently wanted to buy another laptop and a desktop from DELL and I had to make sure I select the systems with CD/DVD drives otherwise they would have sent me without them. |
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Tester wrote on Wednesday 8/13/2014 4:54 PM:
On 13/08/2014 18:21, . . .winston wrote: - thus Win9 could also follow one of both of those paths (no media, all full version)in addition to a subscription version. I am not surprised because more and more OEMs (DELL for example) are not installing CD/DVD Roms so they are becoming obsolete like old 3.5 disk drives. Also, to distribute applications on a USB flash drive is not convenient because of the bulkiness!!! I recently wanted to buy another laptop and a desktop from DELL and I had to make sure I select the systems with CD/DVD drives otherwise they would have sent me without them. Maybe the case for a USB Floppy and USB CD/DVD drive. Course the Floppy is a joke collecting dust. |
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On 13/08/2014 18:49, A wrote:
And if you miss a payment, bye bye data. Where did you get this from? I thought you can subscribe to OneDrive without having Office365! I have onedrive free versions (old hotmail type accounts with 25 GB) but I can add extra diskspace if I want to. |
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