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tip: disable PDF viewer in Chrome
Hi All,
One of my pet peeves is when folks don't date their articles on the web. Articles on Google products are the worst. You look for something and find a bazillions hits on defunct procedures. Well, not. Chrome's build in PDF view stinks to high heaven. It even screws up one's ability to print calendars from Google Calendar. Chuckle. Good luck finding an "in date" article on how to fix it. Well, I found an article that covers the current version and previous versions of Chrome that I really like on how to disable Chrome's build in PDF viewer. https://www.drivereasy.com/knowledge...on-57-onwards/ -T |
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tip: disable PDF viewer in Chrome
T wrote:
One of my pet peeves is when folks don't date their articles on the web. Articles on Google products are the worst. You look for something and find a bazillions hits on defunct procedures. There are lots of blogs that purport to be news articles yet the authors have no awareness that information is always time sensitive. Most information gets stale or inaccurate as it gets older but some becomes more valuable with age. Articles aren't bots checking for updated information or to correct it, and way too many authors don't review their past articles to update for relevance or accuracy. The reader has to do that research but it helps a lot if the article is datestamped to know how relevant it is and what might've changed since published. Well, not. Chrome's build in PDF view stinks to high heaven. It even screws up one's ability to print calendars from Google Calendar. Chuckle. Good luck finding an "in date" article on how to fix it. When you did an online search, did you mention the version of Chrome? Since configuration is dependent on software version, you should add the version in a search. https://www.google.com/search?q=goog...l+pdf+vie wer Specify whatever is your version of Chrome in the search criteria. The first hit in the above search is for a Windows Club article. Although datestamps in articles should be at the top, like just under the title, this one has the datestamp at the bottom in the author's profile box. Even if I omit the version number from the search, I still got hits on articles that were accurate on how to configure NOT to use Chrome's PDF viewer for versions 57+. I used Google. Don't know what search engine you used. Yes, there are lots of articles on how to DISABLE that function within Google Chrome. Same for Firefox. Instead of loading the PDF document into an integral PDF viewer, have the web browser pass it to whatever is currently defined in your OS as the PDF handler. I have PDF viewing disabled in both Google Chrome and Firefox. When I find a PDF in Firefox that I want to read, click on it, it downloads into the temp folder, and the web browser passes that document as a command-line argument (%1) to the PDF handler. In my case, that would be PDFXchange Editor. Firefox is more gracious in actually starting the PDF handler for you. Google Chrome just has you download the .pdf file and then *you* have to use the download status shown at the bottom of its window or its Downloads dialog to elect to open it (which uses the OS-defined default handler). Chrome takes a couple more mouse clicks than Firefox to not just download the PDF but also automatically open it in the default handler. I'm on the fence regarding Mozilla's PDF viewer (pdf.js) mostly because, for me, my PDF handler (PDFXchange Editor) is primarily used as just a viewer. Google's PDF viewer in Chrome sucks, so I configured Chrome to pass the PDF to the currently defined default .pdf handler in the OS (which is PDFXchange Editor, for me). To keep the web browsers somewhat consistent in behavior, I also disabled using Firefox's PDF viewer to have it also use my default PDF handler. Well, I found an article that covers the current version and previous versions of Chrome that I really like on how to disable Chrome's build in PDF viewer. https://www.drivereasy.com/knowledge...on-57-onwards/ I never thought of PDF handling as hidden features in Firefox or Google Chrome. In Firefox, you configure the handler for the filetype: itself or an external handler (registered program for the filetype). In Google Chrome 57+, you configure the Content settings: you have Chrome open the temp downloaded PDF or you have it pass it to the OS-defined filetype handler. In pre-57, you enabled/disabled the PDF plug-in. If you're a long-time Firefox user, you should be aware of Mozilla dropping support for plug-ins. Yes, some users never delve into the settings for a program. They deliberately choose to remain ignorant of what the program can do or how its behavior can be altered. After installing software, and as part of actually learning about it instead of just blindly using it, I dig into its settings. After all, how can you know how to use a program if you don't check how it can be configured? I may not understand all the settings at the time but I've seen them at least once, so later I may recall a setting when I want the program to do something different. Not all settings may be exposed via a config GUI dialog but are stored in the registry. To me, looking in and editing the registry is no different or more difficult than editing the .ini files of old to configure a program. Looking into the Windows registry using regedit.exe is a hell of lot easier than using SQL commands to query a database. Google wrote their own PDF viewer and their own Flash player (PepperFlash using PPAPI: Pepper Plug-in API). As part of Mozilla's continued Chromification of Firefox, Mozilla started Project Mortar to look at using Google's PPAPI and PDF libs in Firefox. They decided not to go with Google's PDF viewer and instead stick with their pdf.js PDF viewer; see https://mozilla.github.io/pdf.js/. https://news.slashdot.org/story/16/0...-flash-plugins https://techdows.com/2016/09/firefox...r-project.html https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mortar_Project Adobe is dropping Flash in 2020, so Mozilla decided not to waste time on Flash by trying to incorporate Google's PPAPI to support Flash. By the time Mozilla got the bugs mostly worked out with integration of PPAPI, Adobe would be killing off Flash. See: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/...lugins/Roadmap https://theblog.adobe.com/adobe-flash-update/ |
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tip: disable PDF viewer in Chrome
On 08/31/2018 02:34 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Adobe is dropping Flash in 2020 Good riddance!!! Now to get all the foot draggers to update their web sites to html5. I can hear the bitching now! :'( |
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tip: disable PDF viewer in Chrome
In article , wrote:
Now to get all the foot draggers to update their web sites to html5. I can hear the bitching now! nearly everyone has long since done that. the few who haven't don't have sites that are worth visiting anyway. |
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tip: disable PDF viewer in Chrome
On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 12:22:53 -0700, T wrote:
One of my pet peeves is when folks don't date their articles on the web. When I look at the header information of your post, I see: Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2018 12:22:53 -0700 Is there some other date information that people should see? |
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tip: disable PDF viewer in Chrome
On 08/31/2018 03:04 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , wrote: Now to get all the foot draggers to update their web sites to html5. I can hear the bitching now! nearly everyone has long since done that. the few who haven't don't have sites that are worth visiting anyway. This is the worst one I have to deal with: https://login.trustwave.com/portal-core/home/plm And they are a security company! |
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tip: disable PDF viewer in Chrome
On 08/31/2018 03:38 PM, Monty wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 12:22:53 -0700, T wrote: One of my pet peeves is when folks don't date their articles on the web. When I look at the header information of your post, I see: Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2018 12:22:53 -0700 Is there some other date information that people should see? I was talking about "how to" articles. Newgroups are automatically dated, fortunately! What I would really love to see is these two groups archived. Google is being as ass about it. Probably trying to keep M$ happy with their horrible community support |
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tip: disable PDF viewer in Chrome
In article , wrote:
Now to get all the foot draggers to update their web sites to html5. I can hear the bitching now! nearly everyone has long since done that. the few who haven't don't have sites that are worth visiting anyway. This is the worst one I have to deal with: https://login.trustwave.com/portal-core/home/plm And they are a security company! a security company who uses flash, particularly for a login page, is *not* very good one and best avoided. the rest of their site works without flash, and i see they offer security scanning & detection. they ought to test their own website. |
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tip: disable PDF viewer in Chrome
On 08/31/2018 04:19 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , wrote: Now to get all the foot draggers to update their web sites to html5. I can hear the bitching now! nearly everyone has long since done that. the few who haven't don't have sites that are worth visiting anyway. This is the worst one I have to deal with: https://login.trustwave.com/portal-core/home/plm And they are a security company! a security company who uses flash, particularly for a login page, is *not* very good one and best avoided. the rest of their site works without flash, and i see they offer security scanning & detection. they ought to test their own website. Preaching to the choir! I have no choice but to use them. It is the credit card processors my customer use. Oh and they are constantly getting ****ed off at me when they do external scans of my various firewalls. They can't find me so they think I powered them off before the test. Gee Wiz guys, just exactly what do you think a 500 U$D firewall is suppose to do? |
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tip: disable PDF viewer in Chrome
In article , wrote:
This is the worst one I have to deal with: https://login.trustwave.com/portal-core/home/plm And they are a security company! a security company who uses flash, particularly for a login page, is *not* very good one and best avoided. the rest of their site works without flash, and i see they offer security scanning & detection. they ought to test their own website. Preaching to the choir! I have no choice but to use them. It is the credit card processors my customer use. that's unfortunate. Oh and they are constantly getting ****ed off at me when they do external scans of my various firewalls. They can't find me so they think I powered them off before the test. Gee Wiz guys, just exactly what do you think a 500 U$D firewall is suppose to do? they're even more clueless than i first thought. |
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tip: disable PDF viewer in Chrome
T wrote:
VanguardLH wrote: Adobe is dropping Flash in 2020 Good riddance!!! Now to get all the foot draggers to update their web sites to html5. I can hear the bitching now! Adobe warned about discontinuing Flash many years ago. No matter how long for a grace period, some will still procrastinate until the deed is absolutely needs to get performed or they refuse to change. They get left behind. If a site relies on Flash content for revenue, they'll die if they don't convert to HTML5 video. Just another site that came and went. Happens all the time. https://www.pcworld.com/article/1910...h_html5.htm l (that one's dated back in 2010) Even after Adobe drops support for Flash, many sites still have a lot of Flash content. Flash content will survive's Adobe's cutoff. Some archived content is in Flash. There have always been file formats that get discarded but there remain documents using the old formats. The Flash Player will still be available for a long time. The Flash Player on your computer won't self-destruct at the end of 2020: it will still play .swf files (that actually have content, not just a pointer). It's the streaming Flash content (where the .swf file doesn't hold the content but just points at its resource on a server) at the sties that will get disencumbered from web browsers that the sites will have to convert or abandon. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/...to_HTML5/Video https://theblog.adobe.com/what-to-ex...lash-to-html5/ |
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tip: disable PDF viewer in Chrome
Monty wrote:
T wrote: One of my pet peeves is when folks don't date their articles on the web. When I look at the header information of your post, I see: Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2018 12:22:53 -0700 Is there some other date information that people should see? He wasn't talking about his submissions aka posts aka articles in Usenet. He was talking about articles on the Web. |
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tip: disable PDF viewer in Chrome
On 08/31/2018 04:53 PM, T wrote:
On 08/31/2018 02:34 PM, VanguardLH wrote: Adobe is dropping Flash in 2020 Good riddance!!! Now to get all the foot draggers to update their web sites to html5.Â* I can hear the bitching now! :'( There are some sites that can use HTML5, but won't unless they think you don't have Flash. |
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tip: disable PDF viewer in Chrome
On 08/31/2018 05:04 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , wrote: Now to get all the foot draggers to update their web sites to html5. I can hear the bitching now! nearly everyone has long since done that. the few who haven't don't have sites that are worth visiting anyway. I use Firefox, and had to reinstall everything (hardware problem) a few months ago. Flash used to be a regular part of such a reinstallation, but I haven't yet for this installation. I haven't had a need for it yet, even on a site somebody told me required Flash. It doesn't, just uses it if it knows about it. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ sign at a travel agency "Welcome ... Please Go Away" |
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tip: disable PDF viewer in Chrome
On 08/31/2018 05:53 PM, T wrote:
[snip] This is the worst one I have to deal with: https://login.trustwave.com/portal-core/home/plm And they are a security company! It looks like an error page. Its wrong about JavaScript (I do have that). -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ sign at a travel agency "Welcome ... Please Go Away" |
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