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Youtube downloader does not work on Windows 10
Roger Johnson wrote:
On Sun, 2 Sep 2018 05:05:43 +0100, Roger Johnson wrote: Is avconv essentially the same thing as FFMPEG only different? Does anyone here know anything about this "avconv" stuff? The only reason I ask about avconv is that the youtube-dl.exe help page suggests that the MP3 conversion is either by FFMPEG or avconv. This seem to be the avconv home page https://libav.org/avconv.html This seems to have downloads https://libav.org/download/ This seems to be for Windows binaries http://builds.libav.org/windows/ You have a choice of one of these two but I don't know the difference http://builds.libav.org/windows/release-gpl/ http://builds.libav.org/windows/release-lgpl/ One is GPL and the other is "Lesser" GPL, but I didn't read further for which one I would want as a normal user with youtube-dl.exe purposes. Inside those two download (GPL & LGPL) pages are lots of confusing choices. Which is simply the most current for a basic 64-bit normal Windows 10 PC? Does this seem to you to be the LATEST 64-bit Windows normal release? GPL 2016-Jun-01 09:21 http://builds.libav.org/windows/rele...ingw32-11.7.7z LGPL 2016-Jun-01 09:08 http://builds.libav.org/windows/rele...ingw32-11.7.7z There should be a Wiki for the history of it. FFMPEG and libAV forked at some point. Early on, I was noticing that some internal timing issues that FFMPEG managed to fix, were still present in something libAV I was testing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libav "Libav is a free software project, forked from FFmpeg in 2011, that produces libraries and programs for handling multimedia data." "Libav then renamed their ffmpeg to avconv to distance themselves from the FFmpeg project." It's a software soap opera. ******* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP3 "In the United States, the technology became substantially patent-free on 16 April 2017 (see below)." "As a result, many free and open-source software projects, such as the Fedora operating system, have decided to start shipping MP3 support by default, and users will no longer have to resort to installing unofficial packages maintained by third party software repositories for MP3 playback or encoding." So at some point, you should start to see the re-integration of MP3 support directly in packages. Paul |
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Youtube downloader does not work on Windows 10
On Sun, 02 Sep 2018 00:47:52 -0400, Paul wrote:
It's a software soap opera. I skimmed that wikipedia, and I agree. It's a mess. I agree though with your summary that the patents expired so moving forward we should see the MP3 encoders/decoders integrated into the tool suites. "... patents required to implement MP3 expired in most countries by December 2012...The various MP3-related patents expired on dates ranging from 2007 to 2017 in the United States." They did cover Opus (and Vorbis) near the end. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opus_(audio_format) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorbis I guess that's why Opus is the default for the youtube-dl.exe program. |
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Youtube downloader does not work on Windows 10
"Roger Johnson" wrote
| But this worked fine: | youtube-dl --no-check-certificate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PCkvCPvDXk | | I never used the "no-check-certificate" where I see it does this | --no-check-certificate = Suppress HTTPS certificate validation | | Does that save time? | What's the reason for that option? | It failed with an error about the certificate. With --no-check-certificate it works. I don't know what the problem is. I don't have any problem with DH. But I do use a firewall, an extensive HOSTS file, and block most Google domains, so there could have been some kind of problem checking out the cert. I don't know enough about the details of how that works to make an educated guess. | Thanks for confirming that the "vevo" search I did for "top songs of 2018" | came up with the kind of link you wanted. I tested a few more of those | "vevo" links (whatever they are) and they all worked in youtube-dl.exe. | Good to know. I hope you have time for breakfast before the Hollywood swat team arrives. | I also have trouble with Vimeo, but I don't have | a link now to try. I'll have to try it next time I do. | | I'm just as unfamilair with "vimeo" as I was with "vevo". | | Googling for "vimeo" "top songs of 2018", I get this top link | https://vimeo.com/251950481 | | youtube-dl.exe -x --audio-format mp3 --audio-quality 0 https://vimeo.com/251950481 | [vimeo] 251950481: Downloading webpage | [vimeo] 251950481: Extracting information | [vimeo] 251950481: Downloading webpage | [vimeo] 251950481: Downloading JSON metadata | [vimeo] 251950481: Downloading akfire_interconnect_quic m3u8 information | [vimeo] 251950481: Downloading fastly_skyfire m3u8 information | [vimeo] 251950481: Downloading akfire_interconnect_quic MPD information | [vimeo] 251950481: Downloading akfire_interconnect_quic MPD information | [vimeo] 251950481: Downloading fastly_skyfire MPD information | [vimeo] 251950481: Downloading fastly_skyfire MPD information | [dashsegments] Total fragments: 129 | [download] Destination: TOP 30 SONGS 2010-2018-251950481.m4a | [download] 100% of 23.54MiB in 06:03 | [ffmpeg] Destination: TOP 30 SONGS 2010-2018-251950481.mp3 | Deleting original file TOP 30 SONGS 2010-2018-251950481.m4a (pass -k to keep) | | The result was "19,245,212 TOP 30 SONGS 2010-2018-251950481.mp3". | If you have a vimeo link you want to test, I can test it for you easily. | Thanks. I'll try it next time. I don't have any links now. I run into them with non-profits offering lectures and the like. The page leads to a player page and the player page has no link in the source code. Vimeo is one of the biggest sites that provides media hosting. I don't know anything about how they work or what their terms are. They may be ad-supported, but without script their pages are blank for me. My general attitude is that if I can't download the actual video then it's probably not worth the trouble. I just tried something on Vimeo. It failed with an error "unable to parse...". So I got the latest youtube-dl version. That worked. Very nice. Thanks. | Until you asked me to look for songs on vimeo, I get almost all if not all | my stuff from youtube. Pretty much anything I want is already on youtube. | But I can understand if you want stuff that is not on youtube. | It's mainly private stuff that's on Vimeo. Typically lectures that might be offered through a website where the website owner wants control over the viewing, rather than just putting it out in public. But I think you're right for the most part. Even videos on Vimeo might get uploaded to youtube by someone who decides to share. | One thing I'd like to get since I'm NOT an audiophile is a quick playlist | of the top 100 songs of every year, which I could then download overnight | and populate an iPod so that I could LEARN what people are listening to. | I can see that. I also find it interesting to track societal patterns. I'm surprised how much I know just by being out in public or flipping past Access Hollywood. I couldn't identify music by Kanye West or Ariana Grande, but I know the names. For the most part I figure I know the current scene sociologically: The lyrics usually don't matter. Rampant consumerism has blended with the arrogant youth swagger that is rap, and compulsive worship of "fitness" as a stand-in for spiritual edification, to produce something indistinguishable from an aerobics class held in a strip joint: Danceable swagger and simulated sex, combined with robotic aerobics of the sort popularized by Madonna and synchronized with backup singers. Cheerleaders on speed. Only the beat and the swagger matter. Self aggrandizement in the manner of a psychopathic narcissist means success and self confidence. One night I saw a young woman named Iggy Azalea on SNL. A skinny thing, apparently wearing some kind of hip pad to give her curves, she kept swaggering and marching back and forth chanting something. Finally, after perhaps the 80th repetition, I figured it out: "Who dat? Who dat? I G G Y. I G G Y." She had a hit song that consisted of bragging that she was herself! Then there are the contest shows on network TV. Again, I don't watch network TV. But I'm surprised at how much I pick up in pausing as I flip by. As someone put it, "Suzanne Vega wouldn't have a chance." Every singer coming out is expected to belt out something, anything, with the force of the star spangled banner. As soon as their voice soars the audience drowns them out with applause. Every time. It's beginning to feel like Monty Python on every station. | This week I had a bout of nostagia and wanted to | hear some old Phil Ochs songs. I was able to download | some poor quality TV from the 60s, but not official | recordings. | | He recorded 238 songs according to Wikipedia. | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...d_by_Phil_Ochs | | Phil Ochs - No More Song = https://youtu.be/p5XBOthE6CQ | youtube-dl.exe -x --audio-format mp3 --audio-quality 0 https://youtu.be/p5XBOthE6CQ | [youtube] p5XBOthE6CQ: Downloading webpage | [youtube] p5XBOthE6CQ: Downloading video info webpage | [youtube] p5XBOthE6CQ: Extracting video information | WARNING: unable to extract uploader nickname | [download] Destination: Phil Ochs - No More Song-p5XBOthE6CQ.webm | [download] 100% of 4.47MiB in 01:19 | [ffmpeg] Destination: Phil Ochs - No More Song-p5XBOthE6CQ.mp3 | Deleting original file Phil Ochs - No More Song-p5XBOthE6CQ.webm (pass -k to keep) | | This created "8,232,909 Phil Ochs - No More Song-p5XBOthE6CQ.mp3". | Thank you for your efforts. This has all given me a lot more options than I realized I had. | Youtube clearly HOSTS the videos. | Youtube has RULES which if you actually go to the YOUTUBE web site, might | apply. Just because youtube says something doesn't make it legal in any | place, or in every place, in any situation, or in every situation. | Also, Youtube has rules which apply to people who LOG IN. | Those rules can be different than people who just LISTEN to videos. | That's an interesting arena. Many big companies are losing the sense of what the Internet actually is. They want to get paid through ads or subscription for broadcasting a station. But it's not broadcasting. They've put files on a server for the public to freely take. But I increasingly see things like the notice, "By using this site you agree to allow tracking and cookies". Of course, I agreed to no such thing. They put some files on a public server and I downloaded them. But gradually both commercial sites and the general public have come to view the Internet as a commercial venue that they "consume" -- whether or not they pay for it. |
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Youtube downloader does not work on Windows 10
On Sun, 2 Sep 2018 09:14:00 -0400, Mayayana wrote:
It failed with an error about the certificate. With --no-check-certificate it works. I don't know what the problem is. Thanks for explaining. I guess I don't have that problem because none of mine failed yet. I don't have any problem with DH. But I do use a firewall, an extensive HOSTS file, and block most Google domains, so there could have been some kind of problem checking out the cert. I don't know enough about the details of how that works to make an educated guess. I see. I'm not using a modified hosts file nor a firewall so there could easily be issues in between on your side. It's good that we both test the same URLs then as I can test the most open (less secure) situation and you can test a more secure setup. Good to know. I hope you have time for breakfast before the Hollywood swat team arrives. I realize you're joking, where my point on the legality is that Google and the vevo and vimeo folks know all about the youtube-dl.exe and if they wanted to get an injunction, or if they thought it was illegal, they would get an injunction in fifteen seconds flat. The youtube-dl.exe source code is known to them I'm sure, so they could also change things up to break the youtube-dl.exe code if they wanted to. Plus, it would make the news like the napster stuff made the news. Given that English Common Law is what it is, but admitting I'm not a lawyer, my assumption is that it's perfectly legal, as I certainly didn't sign any agreement with anyone - so the only thing that I'm beholden to is the common law in the jurisdiction that matters. I have no idea of the jurisdiction is my home town or if the jurisdiction is the corporate HQ for Google, Vimeo, Vemo etc but none of that matters since it seems perfectly legal to me. If someone thinks it's not legal, they'd have to point to a court case since I can't be the only one on this planet who downloads youtube audio of physics lectures. Thanks. I'll try it next time. I don't have any links now. I run into them with non-profits offering lectures and the like. The page leads to a player page and the player page has no link in the source code. You brought up a good point in that there are at least three kinds of links to videos. 1. Easy links like a youtube link which is easy to right click get 2. Slightly harder links that are to a web page that serve the video 3. Much harder links where only a small portion of the web page is video I find that I have success with the first two types, but I never tried the third. An example of the third might be an NBC or CBS or FOX news page where the video is embedded in the middle of the page along with other videos. If we just point to the top URL, we'd get a web page I would think, and not the video (how would youtube-dl.exe even know which video to download?). In the first case, it's easy and the second case seems to be easy too, which is what I did with the vimeo links as I recall. I don't know though as I'm no expert. All I can say is if you want me to test a link for you, I will. Vimeo is one of the biggest sites that provides media hosting. I don't know anything about how they work or what their terms are. They may be ad-supported, but without script their pages are blank for me. My general attitude is that if I can't download the actual video then it's probably not worth the trouble. I never used vimeo until yesterday so I can't say anything but my position on such things is that they can write anything they want into their TOS but that doesn't make it legal. Only one thing makes it legal. And I don't know of any court cases. Of course, I haven't looked either. But I bet none of the folks reading this know of any court cases either which involve the youtube-dl.exe program. I just tried something on Vimeo. It failed with an error "unable to parse...". So I got the latest youtube-dl version. That worked. Very nice. Thanks. One nice thing about the youtube-dl.exe is that it updates easily. youtube-dl.exe -U There always seems to be a new version. By that, I assume it is updated frequently. But I don't really know. It's mainly private stuff that's on Vimeo. Typically lectures that might be offered through a website where the website owner wants control over the viewing, rather than just putting it out in public. But I think you're right for the most part. Even videos on Vimeo might get uploaded to youtube by someone who decides to share. The age-old fact remains that if it can be watched or listened to, it can be "captured". I can see that. I also find it interesting to track societal patterns. I'm surprised how much I know just by being out in public or flipping past Access Hollywood. I couldn't identify music by Kanye West or Ariana Grande, but I know the names. For the most part I figure I know the current scene sociologically: The lyrics usually don't matter. Rampant consumerism has blended with the arrogant youth swagger that is rap, and compulsive worship of "fitness" as a stand-in for spiritual edification, to produce something indistinguishable from an aerobics class held in a strip joint: Danceable swagger and simulated sex, combined with robotic aerobics of the sort popularized by Madonna and synchronized with backup singers. Cheerleaders on speed. Only the beat and the swagger matter. Self aggrandizement in the manner of a psychopathic narcissist means success and self confidence. I agree that, while the "kardashians" are completely meaningless to me, when I see their names in the papers, at least I need to know enough to know who they are. When someone talks about Miley Cyrus' tongue, for example, at least I know what they're talking about. All I want is to listen once or twice to the top 100 songs of each year and I would have a good brief survey of music patterns year by year. She had a hit song that consisted of bragging that she was herself! Interesting. Sort of like the Madonna Superbowl songs about herself. That's an interesting arena. Many big companies are losing the sense of what the Internet actually is. They want to get paid through ads or subscription for broadcasting a station. But it's not broadcasting. They've put files on a server for the public to freely take. But I increasingly see things like the notice, "By using this site you agree to allow tracking and cookies". Of course, I agreed to no such thing. Exactly. If you use the youtube-dl.exe, for example, you never had 'control' of a site web page. You only had control of a URL. If Youtube has a problem with that, they can get an injunction against the makers of youtube-dl.exe in fifteen seconds flat. Certainly Youtube knows about them. Certainly they have the source code. Certainly they have the money to make their lives miserable. My position is valid which is that I didn't trespass on your property if I never visited your property (or something like that). I never visited the web page. I never agreed to anything. I never signed anything. I never logged into anything. And even if I did all of that, there is only one entity that determines if an agreement is valid, and that's neither me nor Google. It's a judge. They put some files on a public server and I downloaded them. But gradually both commercial sites and the general public have come to view the Internet as a commercial venue that they "consume" -- whether or not they pay for it. Google knows all about youtube-dl.exe and they have the source code. I'd be naive to think otherwise. If Google wanted to shut down youtube-dl.exe, they would hve done so within fifteen seconds of deciding to do so. That they haven't done so for years, indicates a lot. That we haven't heard of a single court case is less indicative since there could be thousands of court cases that we don't know about. But you only need one injunction to shut a site down. Anyways, let me know if you want me to test a URL for you since you have a stricter setup than I do. If it works for me, then it's your setup! |
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