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  #31  
Old November 29th 17, 10:00 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
Keith Nuttle
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On 11/29/2017 2:37 PM, harry newton wrote:
He who is Keith Nuttle said on Wed, 29 Nov 2017 07:40:51 -0500:

I always use the original web site for all my downloads when possible,
OR Sourceforge.net


I do too but I couldn't find the suggested older version of PDF Creator on
the official web site.

It was on Sourceforge in source code format only as far as I could tell.

So I was pretty much stuck without a paddle.

Did a Google and found these


http://azure.download.pdfforge.org/p..._setup.exe1.7k
http://olive.download.pdfforge.org/p...3_setup.exe211
http://blue.download.pdfforge.org/pd...3_setup.exe129
http://white.download.pdfforge.org/p...3_setup.exe273


I have saved the set up file so I was not sure where it was on Source Forge

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Old November 29th 17, 10:15 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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He who is Keith Nuttle said on Wed, 29 Nov 2017 16:00:13 -0500:

Did a Google and found these


http://azure.download.pdfforge.org/p..._setup.exe1.7k
http://olive.download.pdfforge.org/p...3_setup.exe211
http://blue.download.pdfforge.org/pd...3_setup.exe129
http://white.download.pdfforge.org/p...3_setup.exe273


Hi Keith,
I'm not sure what you're trying to tell me since I already installed from
here which I said earlier:
http://jcdiaz.net/jcd-downloads/PDFCreator%201.7.1.htm

Are those sites *better* than the one I found with Google?
  #33  
Old November 29th 17, 11:04 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
Keith Nuttle
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On 11/29/2017 4:15 PM, harry newton wrote:
He who is Keith Nuttle said on Wed, 29 Nov 2017 16:00:13 -0500:

Did a Google and found these


http://azure.download.pdfforge.org/p..._setup.exe1.7k

http://olive.download.pdfforge.org/p...3_setup.exe211

http://blue.download.pdfforge.org/pd...3_setup.exe129

http://white.download.pdfforge.org/p...3_setup.exe273


Hi Keith,
I'm not sure what you're trying to tell me since I already installed from
here which I said earlier:
http://jcdiaz.net/jcd-downloads/PDFCreator%201.7.1.htm

Are those sites *better* than the one I found with Google?

Sorry I read what you wrote as not finding PDFcreator

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  #34  
Old November 30th 17, 02:53 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default What's the easiest way to print PDFs on Windows 10 with privacy?

He who is Paul said on Wed, 29 Nov 2017 10:07:48 -0500:

Once you've edited the PostScript, you can distill
it with GhostScript.


I agree with Paul that the whole point of printing to PostScript is to be
able to remove the privacy data.

Here are my steps so far.

1. Open text file
2. Press the print button in the text-editor gui
3. The "Print" gui comes up with "PDFCreator" selected.
http://wetakepic.com/images/2017/11/29/print1.jpg
4. Press the "Print to file" checkbox.
http://wetakepic.com/images/2017/11/29/print2.jpg
5. Press the "Print" button.
6. That saves the file as "foo.prn" which is a PostScript file.
http://wetakepic.com/images/2017/11/29/print3.jpg
7. I can manually edit that PostScript file to remove my name.
http://wetakepic.com/images/2017/11/29/print4.jpg
8. I save that as foo.ps and doubleclick on the file.
9. Irfanview comes up saying GhostScript isn't installed

So my next step is to install GhostScript.

Paul - does this sound like the plan you had in mind?
  #35  
Old November 30th 17, 04:28 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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harry newton wrote:
He who is Paul said on Wed, 29 Nov 2017 10:07:48 -0500:

Once you've edited the PostScript, you can distill
it with GhostScript.


I agree with Paul that the whole point of printing to PostScript is to be
able to remove the privacy data.

Here are my steps so far.

1. Open text file
2. Press the print button in the text-editor gui
3. The "Print" gui comes up with "PDFCreator" selected.
http://wetakepic.com/images/2017/11/29/print1.jpg
4. Press the "Print to file" checkbox.
http://wetakepic.com/images/2017/11/29/print2.jpg
5. Press the "Print" button.
6. That saves the file as "foo.prn" which is a PostScript file.
http://wetakepic.com/images/2017/11/29/print3.jpg
7. I can manually edit that PostScript file to remove my name.
http://wetakepic.com/images/2017/11/29/print4.jpg
8. I save that as foo.ps and doubleclick on the file.
9. Irfanview comes up saying GhostScript isn't installed

So my next step is to install GhostScript.

Paul - does this sound like the plan you had in mind?


Well, you can test with any Distiller you have on
hand at first. Tracking down GhostScript shouldn't
be too hard.

The paid version of Acrobat apparently has a sanitize
option, for removing metadata, but I'm trying to do this
for free.

Paul
  #36  
Old November 30th 17, 12:34 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Who are you trying to hide it from? Can you just send them out
of the room while you print?
  #37  
Old November 30th 17, 01:21 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 30/11/2017 11:34, Lucifer Morningstar wrote:
Who are you trying to hide it from? Can you just send them out
of the room while you print?


He has got some images of naked small boys and you can't expect him to
distribute his pdf files with his name embossed on it.

Harry Newton aka Lionel Muller, Blake Snyper, Balco, etc etc is a known
Paedophile who is spending all his time trying to hide his footprints
on the net. His questions are about changing IP address, or using proxy
servers that doesn't require registrations or using newsgroups like AIOE
where the Italian mafia member called Paulo couldn't care less what the
user does on his servers. In fact some people affiliated to Harry
Newton's paedophile ring are also know to impersonate users of this
newsgroup.





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  #38  
Old November 30th 17, 03:29 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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He who is Mayayana said on Wed, 29 Nov 2017 08:48:57 -0500:

I'm using v. 2.5.24, which has no ads. There is a button
in the top corner to download some other program the
company makes, but it's just a small ad, out of the way,
for their own product. And there's a "search bar" that
provides links to search engines. I just delete all those
and disable online search in the settings.


Thanks Mayayana for that advice.
I put it in my installation log.

I'll stick with the version I have for now as almost nothing is ever gained
most of the time by updating freeware that was once pretty good.

So I'll stick with 1.7.1 unless someone knows that it handles PostScript
better.
  #39  
Old November 30th 17, 03:42 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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"Paul" wrote

| The paid version of Acrobat apparently has a sanitize
| option, for removing metadata, but I'm trying to do this
| for free.
|

It should be easy enough with a free program or
a script. The file format is public. A quick look
through one of my PDFs written with Libre Office
Writer shows this:

/CreatorFEFF005700720069007400650072
../ProducerFEFF004C0069006200720065004F0
066006600690063006500200035002E0031
../CreationDate(D:20170725212218-04'00')

Pretty much self-explanatory, though it seems
odd that they see fit to complicate it unnecessarily.
It's not really obfuscated. Just unnecessarily
complicated. Those are numeric hex representations
of unicode strings:

FEFF - unicode file market
004C - L
0069 - i
0062 - b
0072 - r
0065 - e

And so on. It looks like what you're interested in is
the Info metadata dictionary. The data is enclosed
by and . In between will be things like
"/Creator", "/Producer", "/CreationDate". None of
those have to be there, and there seems to be no
unique marker for the overall group.

If it were me I'd write code to search for those
strings, then look back for and forward for .
Then in that span I'd look for any values I want
to change, like /Author.

Sometimes those are stored as plain ASCII/ANSI
text, surrounded by (). Sometimes they're the
mess I detailed above, surrounded by . Either
way, they could just be zeroed out.

It's possible there are some variations on the
theme. That shouldn't be hard to figure out.

I just tried zeroing out the fields in HxD hex
editor and that ended up leaving the metada
functional while making the prodducer and
application fields blank.

For anyone interested, the format is documented
here (free PDF download):

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/pdf/pdf_reference.html

On the other hand, PDF is very complex. It's probably
not such a good idea to use that format if one doesn't
want to leave a trail. There may be unique IDs or other
identifying data stored. Like MS Office docs, it's designed
to support corporate ownership, not privacy. But if one
just wants a PDF without one's name in it, it looks like just
about anything but Adobe Acrobat will do that by default.

With Harry Newton everything somehow becomes a
massively complex project, but you...? I don't understand
why you're going to such lengths to make PDFs. Why
don't you just use PSF XChange Viewer, Libre Office, or
some other free, common option?




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Old November 30th 17, 07:17 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Mayayana wrote:
"Paul" wrote

| The paid version of Acrobat apparently has a sanitize
| option, for removing metadata, but I'm trying to do this
| for free.
|

It should be easy enough with a free program or
a script. The file format is public. A quick look
through one of my PDFs written with Libre Office
Writer shows this:

/CreatorFEFF005700720069007400650072
./ProducerFEFF004C0069006200720065004F0
066006600690063006500200035002E0031
./CreationDate(D:20170725212218-04'00')

Pretty much self-explanatory, though it seems
odd that they see fit to complicate it unnecessarily.
It's not really obfuscated. Just unnecessarily
complicated. Those are numeric hex representations
of unicode strings:

FEFF - unicode file market
004C - L
0069 - i
0062 - b
0072 - r
0065 - e

And so on. It looks like what you're interested in is
the Info metadata dictionary. The data is enclosed
by and . In between will be things like
"/Creator", "/Producer", "/CreationDate". None of
those have to be there, and there seems to be no
unique marker for the overall group.

If it were me I'd write code to search for those
strings, then look back for and forward for .
Then in that span I'd look for any values I want
to change, like /Author.

Sometimes those are stored as plain ASCII/ANSI
text, surrounded by (). Sometimes they're the
mess I detailed above, surrounded by . Either
way, they could just be zeroed out.

It's possible there are some variations on the
theme. That shouldn't be hard to figure out.

I just tried zeroing out the fields in HxD hex
editor and that ended up leaving the metada
functional while making the prodducer and
application fields blank.

For anyone interested, the format is documented
here (free PDF download):

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/pdf/pdf_reference.html

On the other hand, PDF is very complex. It's probably
not such a good idea to use that format if one doesn't
want to leave a trail. There may be unique IDs or other
identifying data stored. Like MS Office docs, it's designed
to support corporate ownership, not privacy. But if one
just wants a PDF without one's name in it, it looks like just
about anything but Adobe Acrobat will do that by default.

With Harry Newton everything somehow becomes a
massively complex project, but you...? I don't understand
why you're going to such lengths to make PDFs. Why
don't you just use PSF XChange Viewer, Libre Office, or
some other free, common option?


PostScript is mainly a text format,
and should be easier to script to find the
fields in question.

PDF is a mixed format environment, and if you use
a hex editor to deal with the variations (if there
were some), then it might mean more manual work perhaps.

Now, that being said, your point is a good one, and
I slipped up by not spending 30 seconds to review
an example in a hex editor. I spent most of my preliminary
effort, on finding an example that has "all possible
metadata" in it, to ensure a good job, rather than
grabbing the first PDF on disk I could find and looking
with the hex editor. It turns out there are two kinds
of metadata in a PDF, and the second kind isn't
likely to come out of the OPs environment. And as it
turns out, the second kind is XML format anyway, and
would be easy to spot.

A small bit of PDF is readable (some object definitions),
but just as easily you can be buried in a sea of binary
in there. And not really know immediately, what that
binary might represent (it could just be an image
and be a large bitmap).

Neither PostScript nor PDF is completely human readable.
And the tools that promise to remove things like
ASCI85 or BASE64 encoding (so the file can be more
readable), aren't recursive and won't keep digging
until everything is plaintext.

So if you wanted a general tool to search for "oops
my name is in this document", it would be just a bit
difficult to guarantee that your name isn't there.

Paul
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Old November 30th 17, 09:32 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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He who is Good Guy said on Thu, 30 Nov 2017 12:21:52 +0000:

He has got some images of naked small boys and you can't expect him to
distribute his pdf files with his name embossed on it.


This says so much about YOU, Goodguy, that it's scary how sick you are.
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Old November 30th 17, 10:38 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default What's the easiest way to print PDFs on Windows 10 with privacy?

On 11/30/2017 2:32 PM, harry newton wrote:
He who is Good Guy said on Thu, 30 Nov 2017 12:21:52 +0000:

He has got some images of naked small boys and you can't expect him to
distribute his pdf files with his name embossed on it.


This says so much about YOU, Goodguy, that it's scary how sick you are.


Also demented and retarded
 




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